Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-08 Thread Luis Ressel
On Fri, 8 May 2015 15:11:27 -0700 (PDT)
Kerim Aydin  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 8 May 2015, Sean Hunt wrote:
> > I believe that aranea has won, but there will be no official 
> > record because the rules don't provide for an award of Champion 
> > at the moment.
> 
> By the way, this win had a clever bit... it wasn't just semi-apathetic
> voting.  Aranea noticed (after voting periods ended) that the vote 
> leader in the PM election had voted AGAINST the win.  The PM has
> a voting strength of 2 on proposals.  If the PM election had been 
> resolved before proposal, the proposal wouldn't have passed.  Aranea 
> quietly took control of the IADoP to make sure this didn't happen.

To be honest, I only figured this out after I had deputized for IADoP
(while preparing the PM election resolution).

--
aranea


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-08 Thread Kerim Aydin



On Fri, 8 May 2015, Sean Hunt wrote:
> I believe that aranea has won, but there will be no official 
> record because the rules don't provide for an award of Champion 
> at the moment.

By the way, this win had a clever bit... it wasn't just semi-apathetic
voting.  Aranea noticed (after voting periods ended) that the vote 
leader in the PM election had voted AGAINST the win.  The PM has
a voting strength of 2 on proposals.  If the PM election had been 
resolved before proposal, the proposal wouldn't have passed.  Aranea 
quietly took control of the IADoP to make sure this didn't happen.

-G.





Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-08 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
> I was waiting a couple days to see if anyone thought it didn't work... I've
> got some ideas about this point.  -G.
>

The only possible rationale I could think of is that the rules specifying
how to win the game thereby make it impossible to win the game through any
other mechanism, as a standard principle of legal interpretation. But I
didn't want to go to the effort of writing up the CFJ and figured someone
else would.

Sean


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-08 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Fri, 8 May 2015, Sean Hunt wrote:
> On May 8, 2015 6:00 PM, "Kerim Aydin"  wrote:
> > On Fri, 8 May 2015, Henri Bouchard wrote:
> > > > Text of adopted proposals:
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > Proposal 7740 (Foo Bar Baz by aranea, AI=1)
> > > >
> > > > aranea wins the game.
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > >
> > > aranea won the game?
> >
> > Well, no one's claimed otherwise, yet...  -G.
> 
> I believe that aranea has won, but there will be no official record because 
> the rules don't provide for an award of Champion at the moment.

I was waiting a couple days to see if anyone thought it didn't work... I've
got some ideas about this point.  -G.




Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-08 Thread Sean Hunt
On May 8, 2015 6:00 PM, "Kerim Aydin"  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, 8 May 2015, Henri Bouchard wrote:
> > > Text of adopted proposals:
> > >
> > >
===
> > >
> > > Proposal 7740 (Foo Bar Baz by aranea, AI=1)
> > >
> > > aranea wins the game.
> > >
> > >
===
> > >
> >
> > aranea won the game?
>
> Well, no one's claimed otherwise, yet...  -G.

I believe that aranea has won, but there will be no official record because
the rules don't provide for an award of Champion at the moment.

-scshunt


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-08 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Fri, 8 May 2015, Henri Bouchard wrote:
> > Text of adopted proposals:
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Proposal 7740 (Foo Bar Baz by aranea, AI=1)
> >
> > aranea wins the game.
> >
> > ===
> >
> 
> aranea won the game?

Well, no one's claimed otherwise, yet...  -G.





DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-08 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>
> [Being reported separately because reasons].
>
> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
> following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
> Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]
>
> ID Author(s)  AI   Title
> --
> 7740*  aranea 1.0  Foo Bar Baz
>
> VOTES7740
> aranea F
> omdA
> scshuntF
> ais523 A
> G. F
> joepiercey P
>
> FOR/AGAINST   3/2
> VI1.5
> AI 1
> VOTERS 7
> QUORUM 2
>
> ENDING QUORUM
> 3
>
>
> Text of adopted proposals:
>
> ===
>
> Proposal 7740 (Foo Bar Baz by aranea, AI=1)
>
> aranea wins the game.
>
> ===
>
>
>

aranea won the game?

-Henri


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Thu, 7 May 2015, Luis Ressel wrote:
> On Wed, 6 May 2015 16:34:33 -0700 (PDT)
> Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> > FOR/AGAINST   3/2
> > VI1.5
> > AI 1
> > VOTERS 7
> > QUORUM 2
> > 
> > ENDING QUORUM
> > 3
> 
> Umm, not that it makes the resolution invalid, but VOTERS = 6.

(...)

right.  addition.  did i mention i'm just a statistician?
this is bias-corrected.







DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin



On Wed, 6 May 2015, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> 
> aranea wins the game.
>

(by the way, did anybody bring the party hats?)





DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Result for Proposal 7740

2015-05-06 Thread Luis Ressel
On Wed, 6 May 2015 16:34:33 -0700 (PDT)
Kerim Aydin  wrote:

> 
> 
> [Being reported separately because reasons].
> 
> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
> following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
> Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]
> 
> ID Author(s)  AI   Title
> --
> 7740*  aranea 1.0  Foo Bar Baz
> 
> VOTES7740
> aranea F
> omdA
> scshuntF
> ais523 A
> G. F
> joepiercey P
> 
> FOR/AGAINST   3/2
> VI1.5
> AI 1
> VOTERS 7
> QUORUM 2
> 
> ENDING QUORUM
> 3

Umm, not that it makes the resolution invalid, but VOTERS = 6.

--
aranea