[sc-issues] [Issue 115360] New function for Calc / I ndenting and summing up lines

2010-11-22 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Mon Nov 22 21:56:33 
+ 2010 ---
Should be combined with special styles.

Line indenting should be actually a style:
- Style Total
- Style Subtotal level 1
- ...
- Style Data


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[graphics-issues] [Issue 115387] Support copy paste for the position and size values in the status b ar

2010-11-22 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Mon Nov 22 22:34:21 
+ 2010 ---
More broadly speaking: when copying an element from the status-bar (when
implemented), it should actually copy an object of class corresponding to the
displayed element.

If pasting in an application that understands that object, then the object
should be pasted. Otherwise, the textual representation of that object should be
pasted.

Beyond Draw, I can imagine this very usefull in Calc: e.g. selecting a column,
the count is displayed. Now copying the count would copy an object of type
COUNT on the selected range. When pasting in a cell, the corresponding formula
would be pasted. Pasting somewhere else, will paste only the textual value of
that count.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 113877] Program runs into brief ' not responding' freeze-ups during file input a nd editing input

2010-08-14 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sat Aug 14 11:42:58 
+ 2010 ---
This is probably the same as:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103424

I can confirm that on slower systems, Calc becomes unresponsive during the
background sava operation.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 113877] Program runs into brief ' not responding' freeze-ups during file input a nd editing input

2010-08-14 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sat Aug 14 11:44:36 
+ 2010 ---
Note: actually the 2 issues are not the same, but probably related as file input
and background save probably perform similar operations.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 61613] HTML Slidy/S5 compatbility

2010-06-16 Thread discoleo
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[sc-issues] [Issue 20495] Q-PCD EaseOfUse-NN-02 Al low (A:A) as range in functions

2010-06-10 Thread discoleo
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[framework-issues] [Issue 110102] The user interface langua ge cannot be determined.

2010-06-06 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Jun  6 10:55:24 
+ 2010 ---
I was able to solve the issue, but only after:
1.) uninstalling OOo
2.) deleting ALL OOo-related directories
3.) reinstalling

OOo will start now.

It was necessary to delete every old directory. Plain uninstall did not help!

I have searched the web for similar cases. One is described on
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=586455page=2, although it is
Linux-related. My case is a Win2k. However, the common points are that I too
uninstalled at some point the OOo to have a clean install. This seems to have
resulted in a number of adverse consequences.

A newer install on an unintalled version seems to cause a lot of troubles. It is
necessary to delete ALL previous directories in order to work again. This is a
pain, because I had a number of dictionaries installed, which are now gone.



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[framework-issues] [Issue 110720] Aborting when UI-languag e cannot be determined since DEV300_m76

2010-06-04 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Fri Jun  4 11:35:51 
+ 2010 ---
I am installing OOo as always:
1. start OOo installer (dev80 in this case)
2. select Custom install
3. left all settings as is (selected only custom to check that everything is
fine, as I do have some unorthodox directories)
 Everything progresses as expected. [Java v20 was also installed the first time
I installed dev80 - it wasn't installed afterward anymore - I hope it is not
related to this install.]

As mentioned in another issue:
App data is on the C drive, while the program is installed on the L drive. If
needed, I can send you (in the evening today) various ini files per mail -
please specify which ones.

Reinstalling did not solve the issue. I did not check if deleting all the
previous directories will solve the issue - I only noticed afterward that  older
directories are still lurking on my computer.

I do not have a stable release installed either. Some errors may be related to
the fact that I do not have a stable release installed (and therefore NOT
reproducible if the stable release is still installed on the computer). I
believe this was one issue for the java-errors (I received on previous installs
often an error related to java - and I now believe that that error was related
to uninstalling the stable release).

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[framework-issues] [Issue 110102] The user interface langua ge cannot be determined.

2010-06-03 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Jun  3 19:17:49 
+ 2010 ---
I had this problem with m76 on Win2k SP4. I have it again with m80 (I did not
install any other version in between).

The previous solution does not work anymore (changing bootstrap.ini does not
solve the issue). Should be changed to P1 as I am not able to start OOo.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 110102] The user interface langua ge cannot be determined.

2010-06-03 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Jun  3 19:20:35 
+ 2010 ---
Just some further information:

Win2k SP4 English locale
OOo installed in:
L:\Programs\Text\OOo-dev

Application Data:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\OOo-dev\3

Contents of bootstrap.ini file:
[Bootstrap]
BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
InstallMode=installmode
ProductKey=OOo-dev 3.3
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/OOo-dev/3
[ErrorReport]
ErrorReportPort=80
ErrorReportServer=report.services.openoffice.org


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[framework-issues] [Issue 110102] The user interface langua ge cannot be determined.

2010-06-03 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Jun  3 19:25:34 
+ 2010 ---
Apologies, OOo install directory is:
OOo installed in:
L:\Programs\Text\OOo-dev 3

There is a second directory:
L:\Programs\Text\OOo-dev (of only a few 100 kb). I believe this is from an older
install.


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[framework-issues] [Issue 110720] Aborting when UI-languag e cannot be determined since DEV300_m76

2010-06-03 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Jun  3 19:42:51 
+ 2010 ---
I have this problem again with m80. The previous solution (with bootstrap.ini)
does not work amnymore - see issue 110102 for further comments. That one is a P1
for me.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 110789] Error: The application ca nnot be started. User interface language Error

2010-04-11 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|110789
 Summary|Error: The application cannot be started. User interfa
|ce language Error
   Component|framework
 Version|DEV300m76
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P1
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|tm
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Apr 11 21:24:23 
+ 2010 ---
I just installed OOo-dev m76, but I am unable to start OOo, instead receiving
the following error:
  The application cannot be started.
  The user interface language cannot be determined.

Unfortunately, this means I cannot open any documents, nor do anything with OOo.
I will try to install an older version of OOo in the meantime.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 109410] Fatal Error - cannot star t application

2010-04-11 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Apr 11 21:30:29 
+ 2010 ---
Please also look at: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=110789

It may be the same issue. I always install to a different drive, and up to m72
it worked correctly. I just installed m76 now, and I get this Language error.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 110102] The user interface langua ge cannot be determined.

2010-04-11 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Apr 11 21:43:05 
+ 2010 ---
Correcting the entry in bootstrap.ini solved my problem as well. However, this
error should not happen in the first place. Was introduced somewhere between m72
(is OK) and m76 (broken).

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[framework-issues] [Issue 110789] Error: The application ca nnot be started. User interface language Error

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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Apr 11 21:45:27 
+ 2010 ---
This is a duplicate of issue 110102, however I am unable to close it as a
duplicate. For some reason bugzilla will leave the issue as unconfirmed and not
resolved.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 109302] OOO320m12 reports defecti ve jre

2010-03-25 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Mar 25 19:32:59 
+ 2010 ---
This issue may be related to issue 109788.
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109788

The solution I found for that issue was to delet the file:
\Application Data\OOo-dev3\user\config\javasettings_Windows_x86.xml

OOo did not display afterwards the error anymore.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 109302] OOO320m12 reports defecti ve jre

2010-03-25 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Mar 25 19:36:06 
+ 2010 ---
It may be related to uninstalling a previous version and/or installing a
dev-version.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 109788] Defefctive JRE during OOo startup

2010-03-03 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|109788
 Summary|Defefctive JRE during OOo startup
   Component|framework
 Version|DEV300m72
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|tm
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Wed Mar  3 20:14:01 
+ 2010 ---
OOo still returns an error on startup that JRE is defcetive, even after
installing OOo-dev300-m72 which is bundled with Java 1.6_v18.

This error is older, and I received it with many previous versions of OOo,
although it still persists in this latest version of OOo-dev.

OOo would start despite this error.

After searching the internet, and deleting the file:
Application Data\OOo-dev3\user\config\javasettings_Windows_x86.xml
OOo does not disply this error anymore.

OOo should replace the content of this file with the latest version of the
Java-path (or plainly delete this file), when installing a newer Java version.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 109691] possible bug in MEDIAN() function of OOo Calc

2010-03-03 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Wed Mar  3 20:39:45 
+ 2010 ---
Invalid, as when ranking: 179; 199; 202; 229; 249; 263; 263; 263; 227
we get:
(1)179; (2)199; (3)202; !! (5)229; (6)249; (7)263; (8)263; (9)263; (4)227 !!

And the middle corresponds to rank (5) which corresponds to the number: 229!


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[sc-issues] [Issue 109365] copy column copies 65536 rows

2010-02-17 Thread discoleo
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[installation-issues] [Issue 108414] Kernel API GetNativeSyste mInfo only available afer WinXP

2010-01-29 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 29 21:33:34 
+ 2010 ---
Is it possible to get an updated install.exe for the m70 build?

I would rather not want to wait till m7x comes out and I would be very grateful
if I could get simply the install executable. Thank you.

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[installation-issues] [Issue 108745] Error when trying to insa ll on Win2k SP4

2010-01-28 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|108745
 Summary|Error when trying to insall on Win2k SP4
   Component|Installation
 Version|DEV300m70
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P1
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|of
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 28 17:52:28 
+ 2010 ---
When trying to install on Win2k SP4, the setup program exits with the following
code:

The procedure entry point GetNativeSystemInfo could not be located in the
dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll

I am not able to install OOo dev300-m70 (the latest development build). My
existing installation is m60, I have not checked other versions between m60 and 
m70.

I hope that support for Win2k is reestablished, otherwise I would be very
disappointed by OOo. Thank you.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 108441] New formula options for C alc

2010-01-19 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Tue Jan 19 17:50:13 
+ 2010 ---
The generic issue is finding the last entry in a list/spreadsheet. Although Calc
does not support selecting a whole row or column (it always generates a
cellrange with start  stop-cells), lets suppose it is possible to select a
generic row or column. I will symbolize this as [Row_n] and [Column_n] (this is
different from Rows[1:MaxRow]).

The issue is then finding the last element in [Row_n] or in [Column_n].

The more generic range:
 [Row_ri:Row_rj][Column_ci:Column_cj] can be decomposed into:

 MAX(Column_ci:Column_cj] between the Rows [ri, rj]
 or
 MAX(Row_ri:Row_rj] berween the Columns [ci, cj]
depending on request to have the last horizontal, or last vertical element.

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Actually, the more accurate function is:
 MAX(1:Column_cj] - MAX(1:(Column_ci-1)) between the Rows [ri, rj]

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[sc-issues] [Issue 107509] Wrong rank computation of sum values

2009-12-09 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Wed Dec  9 16:31:08 
+ 2009 ---
Weird issue, probably because of rounding in one case, and no rounding in the
other case.

The 2 sums are probably different using floating point arithmetic, though Clac
is likely to round them to the nearest shortest number when displaying the
result. This result may however behave oddly in subsequent operations: the
rounded value might be used by the IF() function, while the extended result is
used by the RANK() function.

The handling of floating point results in Calc needs to be confirmed by a
someone familiar with the code, though (either Eike or Niklas).

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[sc-issues] [Issue 84411] Copy while whole column se lected should trim trailing cells

2009-11-01 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Nov  1 18:13:46 
+ 2009 ---
This is a critical issue. Added myself to the cc-list.

There was also a discussion on the OASIS TC list regarding an application
dependent Table Grid Size element and my alternative suggestion for the actual
spreadsheet size. I believe that the alternative is much more elegant and
useful, especially for this particular issue, see:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/200811/msg6.html



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[sc-issues] [Issue 106464] Can't enter DB: in a cell

2009-10-30 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Fri Oct 30 19:35:02 
+ 2009 ---
@regina: The URL recognition seems to be badly broken. Only :DB: seems to be
affected.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 103424] Calc: Background AutoReco very freezes Calc, making it unusable

2009-10-25 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Oct 25 14:56:11 
+ 2009 ---
Dear Rainer,

the problem persists with the version I have currently installed (m60).

I had a closer look some time ago, and, while true that OOo becomes again
responsive during *brief* moments in time, it is mostly unresponsive. It becomes
responsive for short periods of time, but then again becomes unresponsive, then
again briefly responsive, then again unresponsive. I have tested this with a
smaller spreadsheet on my 1 GHz PC.

If I get some time next week, I will try to test it on a faster processor, too
(though then I will open simultaneously a couple of realistic spreadsheets).

The problem is that, despite Calc becoming responsive again for brief periods of
time, it is mostly unresponsive, and so it makes any concurrent work impossible.
With unresponsive I mean that the UI interface is unresponsive while Calc saves
the document in the background, and this is also true of any other instance of
Calc concurrently running.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 105611] If 'search_text' is not f ound, let FIND() and SEARCH() return 0 instead of a #VALUE error

2009-10-06 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Tue Oct  6 16:28:15 
+ 2009 ---
This is actually a duplicate of issue 66590
(http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=66590)

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[sc-issues] [Issue 105612] Provide a RICHTEXT() func tion for dynamic text formatting of formula ou tput in cells

2009-10-06 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Tue Oct  6 16:34:42 
+ 2009 ---
I would probably suggest something like:

1.) HTMLSTYLE(string)
Format using html-tags

2.) HTMLENCODE(string)
eencode the string as valid html text

3.) HTMLDECODE(string)
decode html-encoded string to plain text

4.) ODFSTYLE(string)
Format string, interpreting it as an ODF-stream


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[sc-issues] [Issue 105659] Calc: ODF: Split Conditio nal Formatting Details from Content Stream

2009-10-06 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|105659
 Summary|Calc: ODF: Split Conditional Formatting Details from C
|ontent Stream
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|DEV300m60
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Tue Oct  6 18:58:38 
+ 2009 ---
A.) THE PROBLEM

Lets suppose we want to do some useful, but more complex Conditional Formatting:

1.) suppose we want to identify every *start* of a new series of records (rows)
 - suppose row 1 is the header row
 - we select everything (except row 1), and enter the following
   conditional formatting, based on the formula:
   =IF($A1 = $A2; FALSE; TRUE)
  [as said, A1 was not selected]
 - IF a number of rows delimit unique items, than we need slightly
   more complex formulas:
   =IF(CONCATENATE($A1; $B1; ...) = CONCATENATE($A2; $B2; ...); FALSE; TRUE)

2.) suppose we create a really complex conditional formatting schema
[Actually, I think this is not possible yet in OOo, but I often do such work in
Excel 2007.]

3.) suppose now that we want to apply this conditional formatting to multiple
sheets and spreadsheets.

I want to have this conditional formatting schema applied easily to different
spreadsheets.

B.) SOLUTION
From my point of view, I would like something like CSS within HTML: separate 
the
2 layers: *Content* and *Conditional Formatting*.

1.) This needs ODF-changes, too: add a separate stream for conditional 
formatting.

2.) Allow exporting/importing the conditional formatting stream. This way, it
becomes easy to clone the conditional formatting to different sheets, and to
apply minor tweaks to this formatting.

This would greatly enhance the conditional formatting experience.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 105659] Calc: ODF: Split Conditio nal Formatting Details from Content Stream

2009-10-06 Thread discoleo
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[sw-issues] [Issue 105217] Long outstanding, importa nt Writer issues

2009-09-20 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sun Sep 20 16:17:04 
+ 2009 ---
Wrong problem very much resembles the *State of denial* that many people adopt
when facing a true problem.

Add myself to cc-list.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 64604] Allow Calc DataProvider to handle named ranges (new chart)

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[sw-issues] [Issue 96713] Sort order not correct in alphabetical index in Romanian language

2009-08-04 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Tue Aug  4 10:21:05 
+ 2009 ---
 Or is there a way to say that Ș Ş have the same value? Ș=Ş ?

I like this suggestion.

It would also allow to have one of my suggestions implemented (a=ă=â, b-h, ...)
but it is also critical in order to have various Romanian texts sorted
appropriately.

Indeed, it is common to find both cedillas and comma-below in Romanian texts.
Affected characters are: S and T. Comma-below character is official, but I
believe that most existing texts use cedillas (due to previous font issues).

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[sc-issues] [Issue 103436] Calc: Improve Collaborati ve Editing of Spreadsheets

2009-07-09 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|103436
 Summary|Calc: Improve Collaborative Editing of Spreadsheets
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|DEV300m49
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu Jul  9 10:24:37 
+ 2009 ---
Calc: Improve Collaborative Editing of Spreadsheets when collaborations span
multiple regions

INTRO
This feature request is derived from issues witnessed when working with MS
Office 2007. It was not tested using OOo (m49 selected to be able to post
issue), but, considering that MS Office allows for collaborative editing for
quite some time, and is pretty advanced in this field, I do not expect that OOo
fares better than the competition.

SETTING
Multiple users from different regions editing collaboratively a spreadsheet over
the web.

PROBLEM
While editing collaboratively a spreadsheet over a local network works
acceptable, when the users are dispersed over a wider region and use connections
over the web/internet to access the spreadsheet, any work becomes a nightmare.

It takes long even with MS Office 2007 to open a decent sized spreadsheet, it
takes long to save the changes, but most notably, it becomes really frustrating,
when you are unable to save the changes, because the spreadsheet is locked by
someone else. You can't just run across the office and ask the person to close
the spreadsheet for a couple of minutes until you saved the changes.

COMMENT
Considering the global nature of commercial businesses, this is an area that
would give the edge over the competition.

SOLUTIONS
The whole collaborative spreadsheet editing should be rethought. A couple of
issues need to be solved:

1.  Aggressive locking and de-locking
Once a user opens, or performs a change to the spreadsheet, it should post a
lock-request. Once it receives the lock, it should rapidly save the changes.
Once the changes are saved, it should immediately release the lock. This way,
every user is able to save the changes without substantial waiting times.

2.  Implement rsid's
Recent posts describe the usefulness of rsid's.
[see http://gsoc-tzvetelina.blogspot.com/]
This feature would allow much better merging capabilities for collaboratively
edited spreadsheets. This spreadsheets are likely not as computing-intensive as
standalone spreadsheets, so rsid's could be used in these settings without any
performance penalty.

3.  Implement merging capabilities
One of the most disturbing things is managing a comflict: you either have to
discard the other users work, or do it all over again. This should not happen.
Implementing advanced merging capabilities and conflict resolutions should be
implemented. Rsid's would offer additional benefits in these settings.

4. Temporary data-exchange
Instead of saving the whole spreadsheet, implement a temporary data exchange
container, something similar to the '.lock' file, e.g. a '.lock.data', where
only sequential changes are stored. All users working in the spreadsheet will
have their spreadsheet updated based on this data, so they always work on the
latest version of the spreadsheet.

CONCLUSION
Collaboratively editing a spreadsheet poses new challenges in this globalised
world. It is not uncommon to have offices spread over different countries and
continents. Even two distinct regions will introduce various latencies in the
network communication, so that classic collaborative editing becomes highly
unresponsive.

People from 4 countries over 3 continents are involved in a project I am
assigned to. But even smaller projects, involving only 2 European countries
showed the limitations of the existing collaborative editing model. However,
there are plenty of new technologies and software should evolve and solve these
issues.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 103424] Calc: Background AutoReco very freezes Calc, making it unusable

2009-07-08 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|103424
 Summary|Calc: Background AutoRecovery freezes Calc, making it 
|unusable
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|DEV300m49
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P1
Subcomponent|save-export
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Wed Jul  8 19:43:05 
+ 2009 ---
Summary: The AutoRecovery processes running in the background freezes all
instances of Calc, making it unusable

SETTING
Open 3 real-life spreadsheets simultaneously

PROBLEM
Calc seuqentially saves the spreadsheets in the background. Every instance of
Calc becomes unresponsive during this time, blocking every work.

EXPLANATION
Each SAVE operation takes 1-2 minutes on a real-life, decent spreadsheet, but
even 10 seconds would be highly disruptive. Unfortunately, all instances of Calc
are affected, so when the first instance begins the SAVE operation, all
instances are unresponsive for 1-2 minutes. The same issue happens 5 minutes
later, and again 5 minutes later.

In summary, Calc will save every few minutes one of the open spreadsheets.
During this time, all Calc instances are unresponsive.

Anyone working in a commercial setting with real-life spreadsheets will be
completely hindered to work with Calc.

SOLUTION
[in NO particular order]

1. Make each Calc instance run in a separate process,
   without inter-process lock
2. Make Calc responsive during background AutoRecovery save operations
3. Make the SAVE operation much faster, virtually save data instantly
  [from a user perspective]

PERSONAL
Unfortunately, this error is a critical one. I wasn't as much aware of this
problem when working at home on insignificant tasks. MS Office 2007 is used in
the commercial setting and has completely replaced any other Office suite.
Trying to do the same work using OOo revealed this critical error. basically,
OOo is unsuitable in a commercial setting, unless this error is fixed.

PRIORITY
I struggled to set the correct priority. While some may argue that this should
be less than priority one (but at least P2), I considered that P2 is too weak to
 accurately describe the relevance of this issue.

Actually, this issue completely removes OOo from the list of applications
suitable for a large segment of commercial uses. I would suggest, this is a very
severe issue. Maybe no one complained, because MS Office is the norm in these
settings, and this is likely to stay like this as long as OOo doesn't become
competitive in this setting.

All potential advantages (mathematical accuracy, standardization, advanced
features) are completely useless, if you cannot work. And you cannot work,
believe me, I have tried, because I am still a staunch supporter of OOo.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 102121] New Feature: Introduction of duplicate cell/record finder

2009-05-21 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu May 21 16:01:58 
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Even more, Excel 2007 has extended the Formatting with a Highlight duplicates
feature.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 16877] New Page Style always appl ies to page 1

2009-05-14 Thread discoleo
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[graphics-issues] [Issue 101936] Line Plot broken - Select ing first Row as Label breaks plot

2009-05-14 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|101936
 Summary|Line Plot broken - Selecting first Row as Label breaks
| plot
   Component|Chart
 Version|DEV300m47
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|kla
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu May 14 19:30:17 
+ 2009 ---
This error is reproducible, though not always. I do not know a definite method
to reproduce it, though I will attach a spreadsheet that shows the error.

Generate a Line Plot (Points and Lines):
 - first row is a numerical label (e.g. years)
 - NO Label for the rows
   [i.e. first column is not a label, but data, too]

Select the data, draw a Line plot (Points and Lines) with data series in rows.
By default, first row is NOT ticked as column label, BUT de facto is used as a
column label (this would be correct). However, manually ticking the option First
Row as Label, breaks completely the plot.

I could reproduce this error, but unfortunately it is hard to track and might
fail to show up even with the same data set.

I am using OOo-dev m47 on Win2k.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 101936] Line Plot broken - Select ing first Row as Label breaks plot

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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu May 14 19:31:44 
+ 2009 ---
Created an attachment (id=62274)
Spreadsheet showing broken PLOT


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[graphics-issues] [Issue 101936] Scatter Plot broken - Sel ecting first Row as Label breaks plot

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What|Old value |New value

 Summary|Line Plot broken - Selecti|Scatter Plot broken - Sele
|ng first Row as Label brea|cting first Row as Label b
|ks plot   |reaks plot





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu May 14 19:38:38 
+ 2009 ---
I noticed now, that I mis-clicked on Scatter Plot (XY), instead of Line Plot. It
is still broken though, with the first row being dropped instead of set as
label, and the second row being used instead as label, yielding a very strange 
plot.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 101936] Scatter Plot broken - Sel ecting first Row as Label breaks plot

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  Status|RESOLVED  |UNCONFIRMED

  Resolution|WORKSFORME|





--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Thu May 14 22:15:39 
+ 2009 ---
It doesn't work for me at all.

Actually, the first row contains various years. However, this row has
disappeared from the plot. Instead of using this row as a label, Calc uses the
second row as label when the Label option is ticked. This is the actual error.
It should have ticked by default the Label option, and use the Years-row as a
label, NOT the second row.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 3959] Outline View (aka MS Word)

2009-04-18 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Sat Apr 18 16:10:17 
+ 2009 ---
 ... perhaps we should be considering integration
 with a good mind mapping tool.

I fully agree. Various techniques have been developed and have evolved over the
past years, warranting novel approaches to the writing model.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 100444] A function to remove hyph ens would be nice

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[sc-issues] [Issue 17995] up standard autofilter fie lds from 3 to 4

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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Wed Dec 17 18:04:52 
+ 2008 ---
Slightly reworking my previous comment:

IF it is still desired to extend it, then a more comprehensive solution that
permits an unlimited amount of rows is warranted:

 [FIELD]  [CONDITION]  [VALUE] [-]
 [OPERATOR]  [FIELD]  [CONDITION]  [VALUE] [-]
 [OPERATOR]  [FIELD]  [CONDITION]  [VALUE] [-]
 [MORE OPTIONS] [DELETE CONDITION] [UNDO] [HELP]

Where:
 A new row of conditions is automatically added
   once ALL rows are filled with conditions.
   [CHANGED from my previous post.]

 [-] Deletes the corresponding filter condition.
 If there are less than 3 conditions, the
 remaining rows up to 3 are displayed empty.

 [DELETE CONDITION] Similar to [-], deletes the
   condition that has the focus

 [UNDO] Undo last action (e.g. restores a deleted
   condition)

 [MORE OPTIONS] Display the advanced options

 [HELP] Display the Help



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[sc-issues] [Issue 17995] up standard autofilter fie lds from 3 to 4

2008-12-17 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from disco...@openoffice.org Wed Dec 17 18:07:11 
+ 2008 ---
And forgot the OK/Cancel buttons :-)

[MORE OPTIONS] [DELETE] [UNDO] [OK] [CANCEL] [HELP]

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[sc-issues] [Issue 96967] Calc makes incomplete part of URL a link

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 13:07:29 + 
2008 ---
Can confirm this with OOo dev300-m35, Win2k SP4.

If you write in one cell:
openoffice.org HIT ENTER
go back and edit the cell:
http://www.openoffice.org HIT ENTER

Only: http://www.openoffice/ becomes a link, missing the last part!

Do NOT try with www.opneoffice.org during the first step, because this becomes
directly a link. BUT if you do not start with 'www.' within the first step, then
OOo will format only the first part of the URL as a link in the subsequent step.

Another example:
who.is ENTER
Go back and edit:
http://who.is ENTER
only http://who becomes a link, missing the '.is' part.


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[sc-issues] [Issue 83767] Spreadhseet Header Contain ing Company Logo

2008-12-07 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 13:38:22 + 
2008 ---
discoleo - pgan
 How is this different than creating the spreadsheet table
 inside a Writer document?

Writer is NOT a spreadsheet, so IF the user needs to work inside a spreadsheet,
then he CAN NOT work within Writer. Anyone who has worked professionally with a
spreadsheet will understand these requirements.

REASONS
===

 - Important functionality is MISSING
 - REDUCED screen-size
   [a lot of unhelpful margins]
 - 2-dimensional flow outside the page
   [both right-side and bottom of the page]

There are many more, including that I can NOT embed a spreadsheet currently in
OOo-dev300 m35. Will have to check this more thoroughly if it is a different 
error.

For a real life example, see also the xls-based Exception Report available from
the following NHS-site (Britain's National Health Service):
[shortened url: http://tinyurl.com/68tnvm]
http://www.ic.nhs.uk/cmsincludes/_process_document.asp?sPublicationID=1225147131677sDocID=4318
http://www.ic.nhs.uk/statistics-and-data-collections/audits-and-performance/the-quality-and-outcomes-framework/the-quality-and-outcomes-2007-08-exception-report

I will add also a screenshot.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 83767] Spreadhseet Header Contain ing Company Logo

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 13:42:53 + 
2008 ---
Created an attachment (id=58597)
Real Life Example (NHS Spreasdsheet) showing a Spreadsheet Header covering most 
of the upper half of the screen.


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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 96410] Deleting Australian Englis h Dictionary disables other english spelling c heckers.

2008-12-07 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 15:43:03 + 
2008 ---
I do not know if this is a related problem:

My English spellchecking does NOT work at all since the latest versions of OOo.
I am currently using OOo-dev 3.1 (m37). However, I think that the English
spellchecking was broken since at least m35, and probably since m29 as far as I
can remember.

I have installed the English version of OOo. Running Win2k SP4 English version.

I have uninstalled a long way back the stable release of OOo and I am installing
since then only the dev builds, which caused some problems back then. The
English spellchecking problem could be related to this fact as well.

However, installing even the dev-build should install all the necessary files. I
do not think that I have removed the Australian dictionary [though I am unsure
IF my previous uninstall could have triggered that behaviour].

If this issue is unrelated, I will open a new bug report. However, please
understand that I switched back to MSO at home after more than 2 years of using
exclusively OOo. Not only that the spellchecking is broken, but this is
compounded by the irritable red-lining which refuses to disappear.

I can confirm: selecting some text and selecting Thesaurus will crash OOo (as
stated in a previous post). So probably my issue is indeed related to this 
issue.

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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 94420] Crash on two similar spell ing extensions

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  CC|'sba,tl'  |'discoleo,sba,tl'





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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 94420] Crash on two similar spell ing extensions

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 15:44:31 + 
2008 ---
[Wrong issue.]

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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 96410] Deleting Australian Englis h Dictionary disables other english spelling c heckers.

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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 96410] Deleting Australian Englis h Dictionary disables other english spelling c heckers.

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 15:56:43 + 
2008 ---
Yes, the action mentioned on the forum corrected the problem.
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=12340p=57999#p57999

It is possible that the error was triggered when I updated some/all extensions,
though I do not remember exactly when I made a full update (it could be after
installing m35). Though, correcting this bug in the main branch of OOo seems
highly desirable.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 96738] UNDO Autoformat should rem ember this action

2008-12-07 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 19:57:00 + 
2008 ---
To give another example:
- type in Writer:
1. We do NOT want this to be a bullet HIT ENTER

This becomes a bullet:
  1. We do NOT ...

Now select UNDO. The bullet is undone:
1. We do NOT ...
- CURSOR IS HERE. HIT AGAIN ENTER ON THE BLANK LINE.

The first line gets again a bullet.
  1. We do NOT ...

The second time the line is bulleted should NOT happen, because OOo knows now
that this is NOT a bullet.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 96738] UNDO Autoformat should rem ember this action and avoid Autoformatting tha t portion again

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 Summary|UNDO Autoformat should rem|UNDO Autoformat should rem
|ember this action |ember this action and avoi
|  |d Autoformatting that port
|  |ion again





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[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 96996] Missing words: lyophilizat ion, lyophilize, ...

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 Issue #|96996
 Summary|Missing words: lyophilization, lyophilize, ...
   Component|lingucomponent
 Version|DEV300m37
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|ENHANCEMENT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|thesaurus
 Assigned to|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec  7 20:07:44 + 
2008 ---
The following technical words are missing from the English-US dictionary and
probably from all other English-dictionaries:
 lyophilization
 lyophilize = To freeze-dry
 lyophilized
 lyophilizer

see e.g. http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=39250

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[sw-issues] [Issue 96713] Sort order not correct in Romanian language

2008-11-30 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 30 18:07:38 + 
2008 ---
Just to avoid confusion, the correct alphabetical order is:
a, ă, â, ..., i, î, ..., s, ş, t, ţ, ...
(And this is what miksar refered to. Please note, this order is different in the
attached document, with plain letters first, followed then by the diacritis,
i.e.: a, b, c, ..., y, z, ă, â, î, ş, ţ - and this is wrong.)

I would like to add that I sometimes prefer to treat diacritics as the simple
plain letters, e.g. I would like to have this sort order, as if /a/ and /â/ are
the same:

 rac  NOT   rac
 rând   raport
 raport rând

This is particularly important, because documents are written often with a
mixture of diacritics and NO diacritics, so it doesn't make sense to sort in
such detail. (The order: a, i, s, t, then diacritics is nevertheless wrong.)

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[framework-issues] [Issue 96738] UNDO Autoformat should rem ember this action

2008-11-30 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|96738
 Summary|UNDO Autoformat should remember this action
   Component|framework
 Version|DEV300m35
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows 2000
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|FEATURE
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|tm
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 30 18:40:48 + 
2008 ---
Often OOo programs wrongly apply some autofrmatting, e.g. they create a bullet
when hitting enter after a line that starts with a number or with '*'.

When the user UNDO's this auto-formatting, OOo shall remember this action and
should NOT attempt to auto-format the next time the user hits enter. A classic
example is:
* ...some...text ENTER
= will be auto-formatted to BULLET
= UNDO
= again ENTER, to leave an empty-line
= OOo auto-formats AGAIN to bullet

The second auto-format is superfluous, because OOo knows now that the user does
NOT want to auto-format this entry. [This is unknown during the first instance.]

Desired action: OOo shall invisibly mark the specific text as
NON-Autoformattable. When the user repeats the action, the auto-formatting shall
be disabled.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 96738] UNDO Autoformat should rem ember this action

2008-11-30 Thread discoleo
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[sw-issues] [Issue 96612] Easier page style assignat ion

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 26 17:49:27 + 
2008 ---
A far better solution would look like this:

PREREQUISITES:
1. various parent-elements inherit styles from child-elements
   In this example, the page style inherits attributes from
   a paragraph on the specific page.

When the user drops a page-style on a specific page, the first paragraph that
starts on that page will receive the new page-style attributes. [This is because
in OOo and ODF more broadly there is NO physical concept of page, but the user
does NOT need to know this detail.]

Then, the page on which this paragraph is displayed automatically inherits the
page style. There is NO need for page break. [It is still wise to have a page
break, because the previous paragraph may flow on this page, or there is even NO
paragraph starting on this page - if the previous paragraph is very long and
starts on the previous page and goes up to the next page. BUT, per se this
method does NOT need any page-break, and would work even IF the paragraph from
the previous page flows on the current page! This latter thing is currently not
doable, even with low-level page styles - only IF knowing exactly how many pages
are in the document and this number is fixed - a very messy procedure.]

Similarly, the style may include a page-break property, so the paragraph will
automatically insert a page-break when necessary, so no need for the user to do
it automatically.

The user just drops a page style on a page, and the first paragraph
automatically grabs the page-style properties. This is it.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 5658] Spreadsheet thinks a number is a string (text)

2008-11-24 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 24 21:58:16 + 
2008 ---
discoleo-cornouws
 For all needing 100% Excel compatability: make sure you have all
 the same version of Excel as well as the same CPU. Both are known
 sources for differences in more complex spreadsheets ...

This is the kind of comment that doesn't bring anything useful to this issue. By
the way, if you really want absolutely identical spreadsheet results, be also
warned that different versions of OOo Calc, and gnumeric and probably any other
major spreadsheet beyond MS Excel will yield different results, so you NEED to
stick to exactly the same version of the same spreadsheet on the same processor.
[Yes, a SPARC will handle floating point very different than most MIPS 
processors.]

The problem however is very different than EXCEL compatibility: it is really the
broken philosophy in Calc, that allows to compute WRONG results, without
notifying the user. So, in the end, the user might well be unsuspecting that his
calculations are utterly wrong, and might be so catastrophically wrong.

To paraphrase a different user:
 The question, also, is not “does OOo behaviour really cause more
 real problems than incompatibility to Excel.”  The incompatibility
 already exists as Issue 5658 shows.  Both spreadsheets do illegal
 operations, *they just do them differently*.

 The real question is, “Do we want to have a spreadsheet that we know
 is faulty, where the faults  may be  very serious and potentially
 life threatening.

So, the real issue is that Calc allows me to do:
= 1 + '1,000,000
and get a 1 and have NO feedback that the result is probably utterly nonsense.
The unsuspecting user will likely miss this wrong calculations. How often did
you look into a 10,000 rows spreadsheet if some numbers are actual text?

Be warned that Calc often imports csv as text. You end sometimes even with a
number transformed to text. Format e.g. a column as text and enter now numbers.
They end up as *strings*, and any mathematical operation is broken. You may well
miss this on a foreign spreadsheet, and even inspecting the cells will devoid
you of any useful information, because the apostrophe in front of the text is
missing (for cells formatted as text - how often did you check that the cell was
previously formatted as text?). And have you thought of a 50,000 rows
spreadsheet. I already work with 100,000 rows (well, obviously not in Calc).
What chance do I have to find the faulty string in this spreadsheet?
[see e.g. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85328 - I was well
unaware that various cells were text - and this was a happy example that I
noticed is wrong. !4! different users beyond me did NOT recognize that the cell
was actually text.]

I would bet, NONE.

And on a different note: THERE IS NO SUCH STRING AS 1

If you mean the string 'one' than this is different from the number '1'. There
is only one number '1' and NO string '1'. This is purely a programmers
distinction with NO real backup in linguistics. '1' is a number. Basta.

Not to confuse the issue with '1 is not a number'. This is indeed a composite
string, but simple numerical symbols are always numbers. I already described
more advanced ways to handle string-input in a previous post:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5658#desc123

Hope this clarifies some issues.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 5658] Spreadsheet thinks a number is a string (text)

2008-11-20 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 18:27:20 + 
2008 ---
 It seems to me that there is a consensus developing here
 that it is more important to behave correctly than to be
 compatible with Excel.

YES, BUT:
Treating 'text' as zero is definitely a BUG.
Consider a company doing $1 + '1,000,000' = $1 and going bankrupt afterwards.
You don't want that, do you?

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[sc-issues] [Issue 85328] Formula in spreadsheet int erpreted as text

2008-11-07 Thread discoleo
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User discoleo changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  Status|CLOSED|UNCONFIRMED

  Resolution|WONTFIX   |





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov  7 21:25:39 + 
2008 ---
Reopening Issue.

Please do not close if you do not understand the issue. Also do not send WONTFIX
if you do NOT understand the issue and you are not a developer.

The putative explanations are wrong and could be readily defeated.

Write: =sum(A49:A62) into cell A63, and it ends up as *TEXT*, not as a formula.
It also does NOT contain the apostrophe before the = sign, so it really should
NOT be text. BUT it is. Write the same formula in column C63, and the SUM is
computed.

So, for some reason, Calc set the range A1:A78 into a strange state, which does
NOT allow any formula, even though it is NOT transformed to/marked as text 
either.

This might be an xls-import problem, but please note that the current file is in
ods-format, so the problem persists. This might indicate a DEEPER Calc problem,
so avoid closing this issue till a DEVELOPER takes a look at it. It might be a
flaw somwhere in Calc's inner workings. This flaw might appear later as a
serious problem.

Therefore, IF after debugging the error is deemed WONTFIX, then I will accept
that (because it is not very likel to get often into this trouble). BUT because
this might hint to a hidden flaw which might appear under various circumstances,
the error should be first debugged.

Please note - and I repeat - only the range A1:A78 is affected, NOT the other
columns!!! [Actually the whole column A]

I will attach a new document describing the above behaviour.

Tested with OOo Calc dev300-m29 on Win2k SP4. 

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[sc-issues] [Issue 85328] Formula in spreadsheet int erpreted as text

2008-11-07 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov  7 21:27:42 + 
2008 ---
Created an attachment (id=57776)
BUG persists with SUM() function written in Column A


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[sc-issues] [Issue 85328] Formula in spreadsheet int erpreted as text

2008-11-07 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov  7 23:30:28 + 
2008 ---
Indeed. The cells were probably formatted as text (and therefore would warrant
INVALID), but... if it weren't for some inconsistencies I noted below:

1.) I was sure that Auto-number recognition and Auto-formula recognition has
always precedence. Strange. Also, the formula autocompletion is activated,
although the resulting entry is a text string. Even entering a function using
the fx button keeps the resulting entry as a text string, and doesn't evaluate
to a function. I would say that this last feature is definitely a bug.

2.) Also, the missing apostrophe at the beginning of the text did mislead me.
Changing the cell to a different type, does NOT evaluate the formula. It will
still display the content as =..., without the apostrophe in the beginning (see
cell A78). This clearly misleads one.

3.) And this makes Calc very inconsistent: SUM() will evaluate these
text-numbers!!! But it doesn't evaluate numbers entered as '1. Therefore, is the
1 entered as text now or as number?

I would say, it is a number, but then why does Calc NOT also evaluate the 
formula?

A lot of inconsistencies.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 95754] Calc for tree calculus too

2008-11-05 Thread discoleo
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User discoleo changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|''|'discoleo'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov  5 17:39:04 + 
2008 ---
What you are referring to are probably multidimensional spreadsheets. These are
for some 20 years around, and more and more companies use such custom solutions,
but it seems open source projects are not yet open to these ideas.

Another concept are hierarchical databases. These are indeed extensively used
e.g. in clinical trials, and it would fit well in your description of the
organization of a department:
HEAD
 |- DEPT 1
 |   |_ SUBDEPT 1: actual sheet
 |
 |- DEPT 2
 |   |- SUBDEPT 1: actual sheet
 |   |- SUBDEPT 2: actual sheet
 |   |- SUBDEPT 3: actual sheet
 |   |_ SUBDEPT 4: actual sheet
 |
 |_ DEPT 1
 |- SUBDEPT 1: actual sheet
 |- SUBDEPT 2: actual sheet
 |_ SUBDEPT 3: actual sheet

I think that this tree structure can be solved with a multidimensional 
spreadsheet.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 95823] can't enter negative expon ents in formula

2008-11-04 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov  4 17:19:51 + 
2008 ---
Could not confirm issue in OOo-dev300-m29. Therefore, this issue should be
probably closed as worksforme.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 11393] Add File | Export... funct ionality for _all_ supported formats

2008-10-30 Thread discoleo
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  CC|'ace_dent,fs,murb,pulsifer|'ace_dent,discoleo,fs,murb
|,smsm1,thing' |,pulsifer,smsm1,thing'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 30 19:50:28 + 
2008 ---
Issue 32684 depends on this one.

I strongly favour adding some other formats to the EXPORT-dialog, at least csv.

The reasoning behind a separate export for formats that cannot be imported back
is wrong, as OOo already can import some pdf, and hopefully will be able to
import any format sometime in the future.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 32684] Export to CSV

2008-10-29 Thread discoleo
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User discoleo changed the following:

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  CC|''|'discoleo'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 29 23:12:05 + 
2008 ---
As the csv is really an intermediary transport file used to transfer one sheet
of data from the spreadsheet to another program, I strongly support adding the
CSV-format to the EXPORT-possibilities.

The csv can't support formatting nor formulas, BUT most importantly, only the
*active sheet* is exported, so it is really ONLY an export, NOT a SAVE
AS-functionality.

I therefore strongly suggest to add this option to the EXPORT-dialog.

This has some practical consequences. Basically, it is impossible to perform any
sound statistics in Calc. At the same time, the ODF-format has become too
complex to implement accurate readers (that mimic all its bugs and limitations)
in professional statistic packages. It is therefore imperative to use a simple
format for data-transfer, and csv is simply the best suited one (tab-delimited
data is another one).

I therefore strongly hope that this enhancement gets implemented in Calc.

Basically, the export-dialog should have both PDF and CSV as options. Selecting
CSV should export the active sheet, using the sheet-name as default name. The
status of the ods-file should not change (i.e. do not set changed status).
That's it.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 49978] Choosing decimal point c haracter when importing .csv files

2008-10-29 Thread discoleo
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User discoleo changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'cs_support,ft,thing' |'cs_support,discoleo,ft,th
|  |ing'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 29 23:17:22 + 
2008 ---
Added myself to cc. As I started over the last month to do again more advanced
statistics, after basically an absence of more than 2 years, I got into the
trouble of localisations. The problem is more weird, because setting , as the
decimal separator, basically invalidates the csv-file, while MS chooses to
delimit the csv with ; generating a lot of additional trouble because of this.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 68636] Checkbox Save cell conten ts as shown should be unchecked as standard

2008-10-29 Thread discoleo
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User discoleo changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'muthusuba,rainerbielefeld|'discoleo,muthusuba,rainer
|' |bielefeld'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 29 23:37:29 + 
2008 ---
It seems that issue 4925 was more about formatting as money and as date, which
are separate data types by the way. It was a tragic decision that ordinary
numbers got chopped as well. Calc basically lost with one move all the
scientific community.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 94419] lost formating when using IF stmt in formula

2008-09-29 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 29 19:53:32 + 
2008 ---
Can confirm that:
 = some cell with currency + IF(1; some cell with currency ;0)
   = currency, BUT

 = some cell with currency + IF(1; 0 ;0)
   = NO CURRENCY

The currency is not inherited IF adding a non-currency using IF()!

Please note, IF adding non-currency directly, currency IS still inherited!

Though, avoiding the inheritance is in my opinion desirable, allowing to
implement *type checking* later on. However, the situation should be consistent,
and:
 = some cell with currency + non-currency
should NOT inherit the currency, as opposed to the current implementation!

Having a type _0_currency_ is warranted in these situations, to ease the use of
IF() clauses.

discoleo - chuv
In order to make the formula work, you should rewrite the 0 inside the IF()
clause as: 0 * any cell with currency. The result will be still 0, BUT will
inherit the currency.

Tested on OOo-dev3 m29

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[sc-issues] [Issue 85328] Formula in spreadsheet int erpreted as text

2008-09-18 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 18 10:00:29 + 
2008 ---
 I don't  know how you enter the AVERAGE() formula in lower case

Type:
 = average()
everything in lower case ;-)

Now, joking aside, I do not have the original Excel file anymore. However, I may
think that the following went wrong: for some reason, Excel did mark the column
as text and did not evaluate the string entered. Can somebody check, IF the
ODS-file does contain indeed a text entry?

Even then, a text entry should start with a ('), which it doesn't.


I wonder also, why Calc does not test IF the new entry is something different.

Now, let's go to row 79 and type:
 = su
auto-completion suggests SUM, but when we enter SUM(...), nothing gets computed.
The entry is still interpreted as plain text.

Even entering a number, will make it text: try with 123

Enter in A80:
 123
It gets formatted to the left, like text. Then write in cell D80:
 = A80 + 1
You get 1, strange! This is because text '123' is interpreted as 0 in Calc. The
funny thing is, 123 is really 123 and NOT '123 !!!

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[sc-issues] [Issue 94024] inserting row or column in between merged cells

2008-09-18 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 18 18:43:17 + 
2008 ---
This is a duplicate of issue 8302:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8302

Please vote for that issue. Please also note that I started a discussion on
writing the specification for that issue, but almost nobody replied to my post.
At the same time, it seems that people do not even fully test the competitive
programs to detect what the competition actually does.

Inserting an empty row (a new row) should be pretty trivial, but
inserting/moving another row is slightly more complex. I would like to do it
better than Excel in these situations.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 5550] auto-fill can't increment l ast octet of ip addresses.

2008-09-17 Thread discoleo
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User discoleo changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'kamataki,kami_,kohei,masa|'discoleo,kamataki,kami_,k
|yan'  |ohei,masayan'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 17 21:16:58 + 
2008 ---
discoleo-kohei

I would appreciate a short description of the feature the patch brings in. ;)

How are the following situation handled:
'12.34   '12.34   '12.34   '12.34.45   '12abc34
'12.35   '13.34   '13.44   '12.34.46   '12abc44

Maybe others.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 8302] want to be able to insert i nto the middle of merged cells

2008-09-09 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep  9 15:39:50 + 
2008 ---
TO everyone: This is the 2nd call.

Please have a look at my previous post.

In order to get a feature implemented into OOo, we need to write a 
specification.

That is why I brought into discussion the way this feature should work.

I started also a discussion on the UX-list, see:
http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=2336
[But NO responses either.]

To explain some of my rationale:
When we have merged cells, we may want to insert some cells or delete some
cells. Because inserting/deleting a limited selection creates a lot of ambiguity
(by allowing different options to shift cells up/right/...), I decided to start
with inserting/deleting whole rows or columns. This is more easily handled and
behaves predictably.

A number of scenarios are possible even when inserting or deleting a whole
row/column, see my previous message.

When inserting: new cell would be added to the merged complex.
Should the new content replace or be appended to the existing content?

When deleting:
Delete content from merged cells, or leave content untouched?

Some further options are discussed in the other posts. Feel free to add any
other opinion/option.

I actually favour both options in both instances, so a dialog is warranted. For
inserting/deleting only a limited selection of cells, the shift-options could
be disabled, allowing only insert/delete whole row/column (and of course a
CANCEL button).

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[sc-issues] [Issue 8302] want to be able to insert i nto the middle of merged cells

2008-09-09 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep  9 19:06:17 + 
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The evil alternative, IF you are referring to MS Office, doesn't do it at all
under some circumstances. I do have access only to Office XP at home, and cannot
test it today on Office Vista, but these are my findings:

1.) merge some cells, e.g. A1:D2
2.) enter some text
3.) enter some text into F1:F2

A.) MOVING
4.) select column F
5.) move over merged area
= ERROR: Cannot change part of a merged cell.

B.) COPY/PASTE
4.) select column F
5.) COPY
6.) PASTE over column B
7.) content is pasted outside of merged cells
BUT NOT inside the merged cells
= NOT necessarily what the user wants
[Also, NO notification to the user that something went wrong.]

C.) CUT/PASTE
4.) select column F
5.) CUT
6.) PASTE over column B
7.) This operation will cause some of the merged cells to unmerge

I would like to do it better in Calc than in Excel. That is why I started the
discussion.

I do not want i.) to unmerge cells, or ii.) to loose content. I hope everyone
agrees.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 8302] want to be able to insert i nto the middle of merged cells

2008-09-06 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep  6 15:07:21 + 
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Lets start devising a specification. I will offer a starting point for the
features I feel need to be implemented within this request (but feel free to
express a different opinion):

A.) Insert into Merged Cells
 - A1-D1 is merged
 - we want to insert a column between column B  C

This should be possible.
Columns A  B remain unmodified. Columns C  D get shifted to the right.
Though, what should happen with the merged A1-D1 cell and the newly inserted
newC1 cell?

There are 2 options:
 i.)  merge C1-D1 with the newC1 cell
  the 2 contents should be appended OR
  the old content should be overwritten
 ii.) the new cell (newC1) acts as a splitter, i.e.
  A1-D1 gets split into:
A1-B1 and
C1-D1 which gets shifted to D1-E1
the new, unmerged cell gets inserted between A1-B1 and D1-E1

I strongly support both options presented at i.). Because cell A1 would inherit
all the content anyway, I do not see any strong indication for ii.).
[A possible utility arises when more cells are merged, like IF A1:D2,
 then after inserting we have:
  A1:B2 and D1:E2 and the unmerged cells C1 and C2.
  All the initial content would be in A1:B2,
  while C1  c2 would preserve their own content.]

A dialog should pop up for choosing the appropriate option from point i.), BUT
if the merged cells are empty, then NO dialog is needed.

B.) Delete Merged Cells
Similarly, suppose cells A1-D1 are merged, and we want to delete column B. What
should happen with the cell A1-D1?
 i.)  Cell A1-D1 becomes A1-C1
   - content is deleted from this cell
   - content is preserved
 ii.) Whole cell A1-D1 is deleted
   - cells E1-... are shifted left
 iii.)A1-D1 is split into:
A1 and
C1:D1 which gets shifted to B1:C1
A1 inherits the content

Again, I do not see a strong case for ii.)-iii.), while option i.) seems
sensible and needs a dialog to ask for the proper action (delete/preserve
content). IF the whole merged cell is selected and deleted, then NO dialog is
needed (and is already working in Calc).

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 79882] Impress: Highlight Row Poi nted by Mouse Pointer

2008-08-30 Thread discoleo
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[sc-issues] [Issue 17995] up standard autofilter fie lds from 3 to 4

2008-08-30 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 30 16:50:57 + 
2008 ---
Extending the filter offers only a limited functionality. A far more flexible
way to extend the functionality is described in issue 66588.
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=66588

Having the ability to perform SQL-statements natively in Calc (without external
data sources) is a way more flexible feature without any artificial limitations.

The existing filter has 3 major limitations:
1.) limited categories (currently 3)
2.) limited string functionality
3.) no possibility to save and load filter settings

Also, comparisons between 2 fields cannot be done and need to be pre-computed.

Extending the filter to cover 4 fields is at most a minor enhancement.

IF it is still desired to extend it, then a more comprehensive solution that
permits an unlimited amount of rows is warranted:

 [FIELD]  [CONDITION]  [VALUE] [-]
 [OPERATOR]  [FIELD]  [CONDITION]  [VALUE] [-]
[ADD CONDITION] [DELETE CONDITION] [UNDO]

Where:
 [-] Deletes the corresponding filter condition
 [ADD CONDITION] Adds another row to the filter
 [DELETE CONDITION] Similar to [-], deletes the
   condition that has the focus
 [UNDO] Undo last action (e.g. restores a deleted
   condition)

IF less than 2 conditions remain, then 2 rows will be displayed, with one or
both rows empty (as appropriate).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 67500] WILDCARDS in Writer Replac ement List

2008-08-30 Thread discoleo
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[sc-issues] [Issue 93277] wrong automatically calcul ated sum of marked cells for times 24h in st atus bar

2008-08-30 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 30 22:03:07 + 
2008 ---
Can confirm this on OOo-dev300m29:

12:30:42
06:12:22
20:15:20

The sum as displayed in the status bar is: 14:58:24, instead of '1 Day 
14:58:24'.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 93277] wrong automatically calcul ated sum of marked cells for times 24h in st atus bar

2008-08-30 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 30 22:07:23 + 
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Even more peculiar, IF I select the cell just below the data-cells, the sum
becomes 1.62 which makes absolutely NO sense.

OOo-dev300m29 en-locale
Win2k SP4 en-locale

See attached screen capture.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 93277] wrong automatically calcul ated sum of marked cells for times 24h in st atus bar

2008-08-30 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 30 22:08:25 + 
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Created an attachment (id=56108)
Erroneous Sum Calculation when including an empty cell below the data-cells


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[sw-issues] [Issue 17203] Ease the way to format eac h page individually (apply style to current pa ge)

2008-08-29 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 29 08:08:44 + 
2008 ---
Inserting a page-break to change the page-style is one option but it is very
limiting. I proposed a better solution to solve the page-numbering issue, and
the same solution can be applied for any other page-style:

A.) the page-style shall inherit style properties from the text/objects
displayed on the specific page

B.) Resolving conflicting styles:
 - declared page styles have precedence
   [this is just to avoid any confusion ;) ]
 - one options is: first come, first served
   (apply first-encountered style, aka style of first object)
 - another option: highlight conflicting styles and ask user to specify which
   one has precedence

The usefulness of this approach is its great flexibility:
Lets say the user want to draw a very wide table on a landscape page. BUT some
text flows over from the previous page.

We therefore do NOT want to insert a page-break, but let the text freely flow.
We would assign a landscape-style to the table-object, which will be inherited
by the page proper on which this table is displayed.

Similarly, assigning a page-break to a specific text/object/and/or style should
be possible and would make advanced layouts more structured: e.g. every 'Heading
1' will force a new page start with a particular page style (going beyond the
already discussed page-numbering styles).

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[sc-issues] [Issue 92677] ODFF: Calc needs to implem ent IFERROR

2008-08-12 Thread discoleo
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[sc-issues] [Issue 92677] ODFF: Calc needs to implem ent IFERROR

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 12 18:01:27 + 
2008 ---
I have seen some discussions on the MS forums to improve the IFERROR() function
to catch only a specified type of error. I can imagine that this is useful, as
some errors (like #REF!) are undesirable to catch.

I can imagine to expand the function with a 3rd argument specifying which
error/errors should be caught:

=IFERROR( _expression_ , _alt_expression_ , *ERROR_TYPE* )


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[framework-issues] [Issue 90214] GUI: Move Measurement Uni t to General preferences

2008-08-12 Thread discoleo
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[sc-issues] [Issue 85825] Multidimensional Spreadshe ets and OLAP Functionality

2008-08-12 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 12 20:55:43 + 
2008 ---
This is a quote from the MS-forums and it highlights another use case for the
proposed functionality. The post might better explain what I tried to accomplish
with multidimensional spreadsheets (although the concept of multidimensionality
goes far beyond this simple case):
[I have corrected some misspellings]

 Why not a HEADER FORMULA.
 When I bring data through queries, I typically end up adding calculated
 columns on the excel side. Each column has the same formula, I just copy
 the formula up to the last record. At every refresh, the number of records
 may change and I could need to copy further down. When I am tired to repeat
 the process, I copy the formula for more rows than enough and typically,
 I end up having unnecessary calculated rows. Usually, I keep a copy of
 the formula over the header line. In this case, since we can treat the data
 as a table, we could prevent this copy process by defining the calculated
 columns from the top line, the HEADER FORMULA. The calculated rows would
 adjust automatically the same way the filters does.

 Jean

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[sc-issues] [Issue 66590] Calc: String Functions: Ex tended FIND() Function

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 Summary|Calc: String Functions: FI|Calc: String Functions: Ex
|ND()  |tended FIND() Function





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 12 21:17:16 + 
2008 ---
Searching on the MS forums I saw some other requests that could well be handled
by this extended function.

FINDEX()

 Function Syntax: FINDEX(string, string, START, END)

Initially, when I wrote the code for the FindEx() function, I did NOT interpret
specifically a negative END position, BUT returned 0 IF START  END.

I did played with the idea to interpret negative values as pointing to the _end_
of the original string, though the code would have become to complex and I
abandoned the idea. The requests to search the end of the string (and even a
reverse search) did pop up on the MS forums, so I think it is time to get into
such an extended FINDEX() function, too.

The idea:
  - IF (START  0) = begin to search at string position:
strlen() + START /* REMEMBER: START is negative */
  - IF (END  0) = end search at string position:
strlen() + END   /* REMEMBER: END is negative */

So, it would be possible to specify relative positions from the beginnineg or
from the end of the original string.

This function would not cover a reverse-search, however, one could similarly
define an RSearchEx() function.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 91562] Specify what happens to th e meta data of text document entities when the document is edited

2008-08-08 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 08:58:24 + 
2008 ---
Having read briefly the specification, there are some things that worry me. I
might have misunderstood the specification.

How does CUT/COPY/PASTE behave?

More precisely, is the META-data lost?
This would be bad.

Although the meta-data content will be often accessed/extracted by external
applications (scripts, other programs), user actions like CUT/COPY/PASTE need to
preserve this meta-data, too. I hope this is kept in mind when implementing this
issue.

The point is, the major use of meta-data is in *reusing content*, so there is
really no difference between manual reuse (cut/copy/paste) and automatised reuse
(meta-data extraction by external applications). If the text-object looses its
meta-data during cut/copy/paste than the most useful feature gets lost. The
meta-data was a single use issue.

Sometimes it might be necessary to strip away all/some meta-data, BUT this is a
completely different issue (and needs to be addressed within the security
framework). This is not an issue of meta-data per se.

So, I would keep these 2 issues separate and always preserve the meta-data.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 91562] Specify what happens to th e meta data of text document entities when the document is edited

2008-08-08 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 10:40:26 + 
2008 ---
*Reusing Content*

One of the main use-cases of meta-data is for re-using content. Lets explain
this a little bit and I will take a dictionary-style example where we define the
meaning of a new word using meta-data. [Actual use cases are likely to be well
beyond this very simple/trivial example.]

Now, we have the first document where we have this new word and the meta-data.
However, I might i.) copy this new word to a new document or ii.) within the
same document, and I wish that it's meta-data is preserved:
  i.) the meta-data should be copied to the new document
 ii.) the 2nd copy should point to the existing meta-data

Lets take a more realistic example: we may have a diagnostic study performed,
and the lab reports the results. These results may contain a lot of meta-data
(like Lab-specific parameters, machine type, test conditions, ...). Now, I
receive these results and wish to write a new document which contains these
results. I will copy/paste the desired data and I would welcome that the
meta-data is copied as well. Basically, copying the meta-data, too, has 2 roles:
  i.) it will flank, and therefore identify the specific data
  in the 2nd document (so it can be automatically detected in this
  document, too)
 ii.) it conveys additional information, not present in the visible text

Now, lets go back to the Actions in the previous e-mail. I still might
misunderstand this feature (or meta-data more globally), but this is *my
meaning* of meta-data (or the way I find it most useful).

Action 1: CUT
  Nothing points to the meta-data, but after paste, the text-object should point
again at this meta-data (either left in place, or copied to the new document IF
it was pasted to a new document)

Action 2: COPY and PASTE as new paragraph
  As we can't predict which paragraph is important (will be re-used for its
content/meta-data), both paragraphs should continue to point to the same
meta-data. Especially, because manually copying data won't ensure that the right
paragraph is copied. [IF the data was handled automatically, the parser could
detect the paragraph that still has the meta-data attached to it, but this is
not true for manual copy/paste.]

Action 3: CUT and PASTE (meta-data is preserved)

Action 4: COPY and PASTE in new document
  The meta-data stream should be copied to the new document and the paragraph
shall point to this new copy.

As I said, the content might traverse different documents:
 PROVIDER 1 = generates meta-data [document 1] = COPIED to document 2
 [rather then CUT/PASTE, the COPY/PASTE is more likely] =
 COPIED to document 3 = ...

All users will benefit from the meta-data, so all objects originating from the
original object should reference the meta-data (or a copy of the meta-data). As
I said, my expertise in meta-data is very limited, but this is what I understand
from meta-data and how I imagine it being most useful.

When nothing points to the meta-data anymore, then the best way to handle this
is to delete the meta-data (should be undoable as long as the Undo is allowed;
should be deleted completely after the undo is not possible anymore).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 91562] Specify what happens to th e meta data of text document entities when the document is edited

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 12:49:05 + 
2008 ---
Hello all,

my view of the real-life scenario is like this: a simple content gets rarely
passed by to another document as it is. More often, a new document is assmebled
from various existing documents.

Consider this:
  _
LAB 1 = generate document + meta-data |
   |
LAB 2 = generate document + meta-data |
   | =
LAB 1 = new data + meta-data  |
   |
RECEIVER = generate other content + meta-data |
  -

RECEIVER will combine his own generated content with contents from the various
LABS and will generate a new document containing this data and hopefully all the
relevant meta-data along. This is a more realistic use-case. Then he passes this
document along to a new RECEIVER who again will corroborate various sources to
generate a new document with combined meta-data and passes it along to a new
receiver (maybe back to the first one or another one, e.g. a hospital).

With regard to pasting within the same document: I do not have a strong opinion
about this, as in the field I work it won't occur that often. But copying the
meta-data to a new document is something that in my opinion is very important
and the main utility of meta-data.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 92153] spurious div/0 error

2008-08-08 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 17:31:18 + 
2008 ---
The problem with the proposed approach is:

1. variable names have to be typed
2. cells can be selected with the mouse

I mention this, because it is easy to mistype something like AB_6 or AB6v and
still end with cell [AB6] instead of the variable name.

IF the user names something PI2, or to give an example that I often use APACHE2,
then I still believe that the chance of an error will be dim and the chance of a
calculation with a cell PI2 (and APACHE2 - when spreadsheets will support as
many columns) is rather small.

But as you said, it is not zero. Instead of forbidding valid names (and highly
desirable names), I would adopt an overall better solution:
 - Calc could detect such conflicts and mark the respective cell
   -- mark only IF the cell is non-empty
   -- it is unlikely that the user would reference an empty cell
 - the user is then warned that a similar name and cell do exist

I still believe that the liberal use of names greatly outweighs the negative
consequences. If people were using more often names, then they would start both
to organise better their spreadsheet and also reduce a great number of other
errors. This would by far offset the rare occurrence of the mentioned naming
conflict.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 5658] Spreadsheet thinks a number is a string (text)

2008-08-08 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 21:39:01 + 
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 What I don't understand is, why refering to a cell containing 
 (empty string) in formulas evaluates to Err:529

This is definitely an error. Empty cells should not be evaluated as either text
or number. They are just empty. Silly, but this is how it should have been 
handled.

Actually, empty has a special value, it is called Not Available, or NaN, or NA.

Calc should implement such a special type, as described in one of my previous
posts. R does it (the S+ language) and all professional statistical
applications. Also, R has a very powerful way to handle NA values. Default is to
ignore these values, but the user can specify a different action, e.g. remove or
fail.

This is also the sensible way how to handle string-numbers: default would be
*fail*, while other options are: *ignore* (Current Calc implementation) and
*convert* to number (Excel's way).

These option parameters should be passed to every function/formula/cell.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 92153] spurious div/0 error

2008-08-07 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug  7 08:46:08 + 
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 A user might forget (3 months later) that she has defined VARIABLE AB6,
 refer to CELL AB6, and get (without warning) a wrong result using
 variable AB6 --not what she meant!

I do not quite understand this statement. In general named ranges should be
preferred whenever feasible (and I strongly prefer them), because they make the
sheet much more structured, and indeed the user can easily remember 3 months
later what he was doing.

I especially point here to some of my feature requests to extend the concept of
named ranges/variables:
 - issue 66886 (to restrict names to a particular sheet) and
 - issue 67499 (which, besides other things, would allow organising
   these definitions and adding sensible comments to every definition)

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=66886
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=67499

As I said, at some time point every 'string'-name will be a valid column (even
this 'VeryVeryLongVariableName') and so would preclude the use of any sensible
name. Also, I expect variable names to be as short as possible, therefore I
strongly oppose artificial 'X_6v or' the like. They only increase error rates
and mistakes.

At the same time, it is unlikely that a particular user, which has defined PI2
will actually use column PI2. Still, most people use less than 100 columns. Why
wasting so many resources for just the rare use of more columns.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 92292] automatic filling of cells doesnt work as expected

2008-08-07 Thread discoleo
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User discoleo changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'sweigel' |'discoleo,sweigel'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug  7 17:17:29 + 
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I did some testing in OOo-dev m28

I entered in the first 2 cells a string and examined what happens when
autofilling (using the drag method):

Text entered in first 2 rows:

   A B   C
--
1 text1.1 text1.1 text
2 text2.1 text2.2 text
== after autofilling =
1 text1.1 text1.1 text
2 text2.1 text   !2.1 text! == HAS CHANGED !!!
3 text3.1 text3.1 text
4 text4.1 text4.1 text

Cell C2 should have never changed: at a minimum, it should not change, even IF
the other cells are undefined.

The optimal solution would be to detect the common string parts in the first 2
cells, remove them, and use the remaining numbers to increment.

Alternatively, one could extract the whole number sequence.

IF(cell_content == string) {
  ITERATOR = first_pos(cell_content)
  while(ITERATOR  end) {
 IF( *ITERATOR++ == number ) next
 IF( *ITERATOR++ == locale_dependent(.) ) {
 decimal_separator++
 # we can also have dates or date-like strings
 IF( decimal_separator  3) next
 ITERATOR--
 # this is a decimal separator too much
 # will break after this
 }
 break
  }
  # we found our number-sequence
}

The alternative is to compare the 2 strings and extract ALL identical strings.
Try to interpret as a number everything else that remains (that is different
between the 2 strings).


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[sc-issues] [Issue 92292] automatic filling of cells doesnt work as expected

2008-08-07 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug  7 17:41:52 + 
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Just to slightly update the described algorithm:
  - IF NO number sequence is found at the beginning of the string
then the iterator should start backwards
[left should have precedence over right]
  - this algorithm will fail with discontinues numbers, e.g.

 1 text 1
 2 text 2

The identical string algorithm would be slightly more stable, but would fail IF
the true string part is different, e.g.
 1 abc 1
 2 axx 2
The behaviour would be undefined in this latter instance. Also, this latter
algorithm would then have to increment every number sequence encountered (with
possibly different steps). Though, this needs not be implemented immediately.
Fixing the overwrite behaviour should however be fixed in a timely manner.
Detecting a whole number sequence should probably follow closely.

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