Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Did you remember to delete the special characters from /etc/issue ? > Ah, you're right, I forgot about that. Now it works, thank you!
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:00 PM, SanskritFritz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> > >> > Not sure if someone already posted this: >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 >> > >> >> That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. "--noclear" is the >> option to use. >> > > Strange, it doesnt work for me :( > here is what I have in /etc/inittab: > > c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear -8 -s 38400 tty1 linux > Did you remember to delete the special characters from /etc/issue ? -t
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:00 PM, SanskritFritz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> > >> > Not sure if someone already posted this: >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 >> > >> >> That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. "--noclear" is the >> option to use. >> > > Strange, it doesnt work for me :( > here is what I have in /etc/inittab: > > c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear -8 -s 38400 tty1 linux > Can you try without the "-s"? (I will not pretend that I understand the issues with gettys, but I think the default, whatever this means, does not have the flag, only the 38400 argument.) J.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > > Not sure if someone already posted this: > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 > > > > That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. "--noclear" is the > option to use. > Strange, it doesnt work for me :( here is what I have in /etc/inittab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear -8 -s 38400 tty1 linux
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
> > Not sure if someone already posted this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980 > That's it. I already rebooted and it comes out OK. "--noclear" is the option to use. J.A.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > I can't reboot either, but I'm pretty sure you're right. I suppose the > --noclear is new and was not "advertised" > > Thanks > > Jorge > Not sure if someone already posted this: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25980
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:30 AM, cantabile wrote: > On 09/27/2011 10:33 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> > > agetty(8) says: > --noclear > Do not clear the screen before prompting for the login name > (the screen is normally cleared). > > So try that and let me know if it works (don't remove -i). I'm also > interested in this but I can't reboot atm. > I can't reboot either, but I'm pretty sure you're right. I suppose the --noclear is new and was not "advertised" Thanks Jorge
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
> > FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next > filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). > Yes, that's really the point. Clearing or not the terminal, depending on the flag, seems the proper way to do it, rather than editing /etc/issue. > Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot > Thanks. Jorge
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_Clearing_of_Boot_Messages >> > > Thank you. It seems the behaviour of agetty changed. The --noclear > option appears to be the relevant one. I think it wasn't there before, > but I may be wrong. > > Jorge Yes, it's one of the new things. http://userweb.kernel.org/~kzak/util-linux-ng/ is still down, so you have to use 'man agetty' if you want to check other options.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_Clearing_of_Boot_Messages > Thank you. It seems the behaviour of agetty changed. The --noclear option appears to be the relevant one. I think it wasn't there before, but I may be wrong. Jorge
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patrick Burroughs wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process >> that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed >> and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: >> >> c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux >> >> I added the "-i" to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not >> any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? > There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears > the screen. Try removing that. The -i makes the contents of /etc/issue irrelevant. That's why I put in /etc/inittab, although it's not the best solution. Thanks J.A.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
hey
this quick and minimalistic patch [1] to rc.{sysinit,single,multi}
here works to capture almost the complete boot output in per-script
manner in /bootlog. don't forget to mkdir /bootlog when you apply it.
use less -r to read them, and don't be irritated, it will change the
results for right-aligned output (like [DONE]). dmesg errors aren't
recorded, but those go to /var/log/dmesg.log anyway.
[1] http://ix.io/1Tx/diff
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
Excerpts from Fons Adriaensen's message of 2011-09-27 12:55:51 +0200: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:12:29PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > > FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next > > filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). > > > > Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot > > Something remotely related for which I'd appreciate a solution: > > On one of the laptops I use, at some point during the boot > sequence the display brightness is reduced to almost invisible. > > Any ideas of where to look to fix this ? > > TIA, It could be a kernel bug with this specific laptop. When the display brightness control on my laptop didn't work I filed a bug at kernel.org, provided additional information and one or two kernel releases later it worked.
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:12:29PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next > filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). > > Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot Something remotely related for which I'd appreciate a solution: On one of the laptops I use, at some point during the boot sequence the display brightness is reduced to almost invisible. Any ideas of where to look to fix this ? TIA, -- FA
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On 09/27/2011 10:33 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the "-i" to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? TIA Jorge Almeida agetty(8) says: --noclear Do not clear the screen before prompting for the login name (the screen is normally cleared). So try that and let me know if it works (don't remove -i). I'm also interested in this but I can't reboot atm. -- cantabile "Jayne is a girl's name." -- River
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Patrick Burroughs wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process >> that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed >> and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: >> >> c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux >> >> I added the "-i" to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not >> any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? >> >> TIA >> >> Jorge Almeida > > There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears > the screen. Try removing that. FYI: All the special characters in /etc/issue will go away in the next filesystems release (as agetty deals with it now). Also, if you want to see what happened during boot, there is /var/log/boot Cheers, Tom
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Patrick Burroughs wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process >> that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed >> and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: >> >> c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux >> >> I added the "-i" to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not >> any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? >> >> TIA >> >> Jorge Almeida > > There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears > the screen. Try removing that. > > ~Celti > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_Clearing_of_Boot_Messages
Re: [arch-general] startup messages gone
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 00:33, Jorge Almeida wrote: > There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process > that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed > and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: > > c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux > > I added the "-i" to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not > any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? > > TIA > > Jorge Almeida There's a special character at the beginning of /etc/issue that clears the screen. Try removing that. ~Celti
[arch-general] startup messages gone
There has been some recent change somewhere in the startup process that makes startup messages disappear once the process is completed and the login prompt appears. I had (and have) in /etc/initttab: c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -8 38400 tty1 linux I added the "-i" to prevent clearing the terminal, and it worked. Not any more. Not even with Shift+PageUp. Anyone knows what changed? TIA Jorge Almeida
