Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-10 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
 Xavier schrieb:

 Unfortunately we can no longer check the cvs repo afaik.
 We cannot see earlier than April 2008 :
 http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/udev/trunk/PKGBUILD?view=log

 I am also curious to know how did that file stay. Why wasn't it
 tracked and removed by pacman ?

 The old cvs-arch and cvs-core are still around somewhere, but not public.



So since we still have no information about that
/etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules file, it seems it could potentially be on
all old arch systems (2007 or older).
Should the kernel post_upgrade either display a warning or just remove
that file automatically ?
A warning could be safer if a user used this file for custom rules.


Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-10 Thread Armando M. Baratti

Xavier wrote:

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:

Xavier schrieb:

Unfortunately we can no longer check the cvs repo afaik.
We cannot see earlier than April 2008 :
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/udev/trunk/PKGBUILD?view=log

I am also curious to know how did that file stay. Why wasn't it
tracked and removed by pacman ?

The old cvs-arch and cvs-core are still around somewhere, but not public.




So since we still have no information about that
/etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules file, it seems it could potentially be on
all old arch systems (2007 or older).
Should the kernel post_upgrade either display a warning or just remove
that file automatically ?
A warning could be safer if a user used this file for custom rules.



My current Arch Linux was (re)installed last time in 2005 and only 
updated after that.  I don't have /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules .

I must have removed it manually.

I think some time ago there was an announcement or discussion about this 
on this list, but I'm not sure.




Armando


Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-09 Thread Damjan Georgievski
 My system is uptodate with the current testing repo. During bootup today
 I noticed the error message:
     /etc/rc.sysinit: line 364: /dev/tty[0-9]*: no such file or directory
 To my surprise, only /dev/tty was present, but none of tty0..9. Instead
 there was a device literally named '/dev/tty[0-9]*' !! I deleted the
 latter, and attempted to create the missing ones with mknod. But I think
 I took the wrong major number, and now my system has started to behave a
 bit crazy... Any idea what I should do to restore it to sanity?

 rm -f /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules

 ... and back! That was it indeed. Ah, well, how long did I live with
 that antediluvian udev.rules file? It was dated March 2008 and did not
 even belong to the udev package... Wonder what ill it caused otherwise.
 Well. Gone now. Thanks again.

That file is a real mistery, I didn't have it (I have probably removed
it long time ago) but a friend had it timestamped at 2007


-- 
damjan


Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-09 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Damjan Georgievski gdam...@gmail.com wrote:

 ... and back! That was it indeed. Ah, well, how long did I live with
 that antediluvian udev.rules file? It was dated March 2008 and did not
 even belong to the udev package... Wonder what ill it caused otherwise.
 Well. Gone now. Thanks again.

 That file is a real mistery, I didn't have it (I have probably removed
 it long time ago) but a friend had it timestamped at 2007



Unfortunately we can no longer check the cvs repo afaik.
We cannot see earlier than April 2008 :
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/udev/trunk/PKGBUILD?view=log

I am also curious to know how did that file stay. Why wasn't it
tracked and removed by pacman ?


Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-09 Thread Thomas Bächler

Xavier schrieb:

Unfortunately we can no longer check the cvs repo afaik.
We cannot see earlier than April 2008 :
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/udev/trunk/PKGBUILD?view=log

I am also curious to know how did that file stay. Why wasn't it
tracked and removed by pacman ?


The old cvs-arch and cvs-core are still around somewhere, but not public.



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Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
 Xavier schrieb:

 Unfortunately we can no longer check the cvs repo afaik.
 We cannot see earlier than April 2008 :
 http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/udev/trunk/PKGBUILD?view=log

 I am also curious to know how did that file stay. Why wasn't it
 tracked and removed by pacman ?

 The old cvs-arch and cvs-core are still around somewhere, but not public.

They used to be listed in viewvc. Did we kill that off with the server move?


Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-09 Thread Thomas Bächler

Aaron Griffin schrieb:

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:

Xavier schrieb:

Unfortunately we can no longer check the cvs repo afaik.
We cannot see earlier than April 2008 :
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/udev/trunk/PKGBUILD?view=log

I am also curious to know how did that file stay. Why wasn't it
tracked and removed by pacman ?

The old cvs-arch and cvs-core are still around somewhere, but not public.


They used to be listed in viewvc. Did we kill that off with the server move?


Yes, I found it confusing to have so many repositories with different 
names, there was nothing to uniquely point out that all the CVS stuff 
was historical. We don't even have CVS installed anymore.




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Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-09 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:

 Yes, I found it confusing to have so many repositories with different names,
 there was nothing to uniquely point out that all the CVS stuff was
 historical. We don't even have CVS installed anymore.



I did use the cvs stuff several times when it was still in viewvc.
It was for the same reasons than now, just checking the history of a package.
But well no big deal, it's usually not that important.


Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-08 Thread Firmicus
Thomas Bächler a écrit :
 Firmicus schrieb:
 Hi folks,

 My system is uptodate with the current testing repo. During bootup today
 I noticed the error message:
 /etc/rc.sysinit: line 364: /dev/tty[0-9]*: no such file or directory
 To my surprise, only /dev/tty was present, but none of tty0..9. Instead
 there was a device literally named '/dev/tty[0-9]*' !! I deleted the
 latter, and attempted to create the missing ones with mknod. But I think
 I took the wrong major number, and now my system has started to behave a
 bit crazy... Any idea what I should do to restore it to sanity?

 Thanks,
 F


 rm -f /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules

All right. Danke Thomas!
Rebooting now...

0 o .


Re: [arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...

2009-10-08 Thread Firmicus
Firmicus a écrit :
 Thomas Bächler a écrit :
   
 Firmicus schrieb:
 
 Hi folks,

 My system is uptodate with the current testing repo. During bootup today
 I noticed the error message:
 /etc/rc.sysinit: line 364: /dev/tty[0-9]*: no such file or directory
 To my surprise, only /dev/tty was present, but none of tty0..9. Instead
 there was a device literally named '/dev/tty[0-9]*' !! I deleted the
 latter, and attempted to create the missing ones with mknod. But I think
 I took the wrong major number, and now my system has started to behave a
 bit crazy... Any idea what I should do to restore it to sanity?

 Thanks,
 F

   
 rm -f /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules

 
 All right. Danke Thomas!
 Rebooting now...

 0 o .

   
... and back! That was it indeed. Ah, well, how long did I live with
that antediluvian udev.rules file? It was dated March 2008 and did not
even belong to the udev package... Wonder what ill it caused otherwise.
Well. Gone now. Thanks again.
F