Team,
Every Rahman album has atleast one mesmerizing BGM. we cannot absolutely skip
any of them. My suggestions is we go chrnologically starting from his first
release and work our way up.
We must try to extract every bgm from every of ARR.
Regards
Kiran
- Original Message
From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:51:00 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] Voiceless BGMs - Explained!
Hi Krishna
With God's Grace, I have been able to provide BGMs of these movies. ( Almost
voiceless )
1. 1947 Earth
2. Rangeela
3. gentleman
4. NEW
5. Tehzeeb
6. Pudiya Mugam
7. Taal
8. Godfather
9. Meenaxi
There are many more BGMs which are following. Pls update them
On 2/29/08, KrishnA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
Hi all
As kaissiom said, first we have to make a list of movies which need to be
ripped (for the purpose of BGMs), so in this regard, I have made a list, but I
am very skeptical about the legitimacy of that, so all guys are requested to
update it for further purpose.
Thanks
Krishna.
On 2/19/08, kaissiom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
Voiceless BGMs - Explained!
I'm not much of any expert on this topic, as I happened to accidentally or
unintentionally discover the process of ripping voiceless BGMs. There may be
members on this group who have expertise in this area who may be able to shed
some more light on this topic. Following article is my limited understanding
of this subject, please correct me if I am wrong.
First, some definitions:
* For the sake of discussion L refers to Left and R refers to Right (speakers)
Mono: Single channel (no difference in L or R speaker, both reproduce one sound)
L speaker = R speaker = One sound from both.
[Note]: Rahman has been very disappointed that 'Kabhi Na Kabhi' was recorded in
stereo, but released in Mono.
Stereo: Two or more channels (generally two channel, separate
recording/reproduct ion of sound, L and R)
L speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+ R speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
= 3 different sounds possible: L sound + Shared L/R sound + R sound
[Note]: Think of it as a Venn diagram: Both L and R speakers reproduce same
sound most of the time, but will also have variations of their own. Quite
evident in 'Daud' - Title track, the entire track has variations in Left and
Right channel.
Stereo Surround: 5.1 or higher (5 channels plus 1 LFE; Dolby-Digital, dts)
L Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+R Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+C Center speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+L Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+R Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+LFE Low-Frequency Effects(sub- woofer)
= Surround Sound experience.
[Note]: Most, but not all, DVD-Videos have 5.1 surround sound. And also the
rare, but dying, DVD-Audio format falls in this category.
There's no limitation on the number of channels, I find some English movies
with 7.1 surround sound , you can also buy a 10.1 sound systems, if you can
find source to utilize those channels.
Almost all Media formats can reproduce mono and stereo, but not surround:
Cassette tapes: Stereo and Mono
CD: Stereo and Mono
VCD: Stereo and Mono
DVD: Surround, Stereo and Mono
How does this relate to voiceless BGMs?
Voiceless BGMs are only possible from surround sound, given that they were
recorded and reproduce as surround. So, that leaves us with DVD-Audio, which I
won't get into, and DVD-Video, by which we mean regular DVD movies.
How are BGMs recorded on DVDs?
I don't know exactly, but that's up to the composer and the sound engineer.
But in order to qualify as surround sound, they have to record different sounds
for different channels. For example they may record actors' voices for the
CENTER channel and the background score for the two-REAR speakers and a
combination of both voices and score on the two-FRONT speakers (this is
hypothetical, simple and straightforward example):
L/R Front speakers: Combination/ layers of both voices and background score
CENTER speaker: Only voices
L/R Rear speakers: Only background score
You can imagine watching a movie and an extra sound effect from back, or
someone yelling from behind you or a car whooshing by. And remember, they can
try many different combinations with 5 different channels.
How to extract voiceless BGMs?
Simply put, you have to tap into the channels that only contain the
'Background Score'. In the simple example given above, it would be the 'L/R
Rear Speaker/Channel'.
How do kaissiom and AJ extract voiceless BGMs?
Well, I can't speak for AJ, but I know he uses some software. And as far as
I'm concerned, I can write a longer post than this one trying to explain how I
accidentally did it. My method is not all software- it's combination of
hardware and software. I was fixing my computer and my home-theater system
set-up, such that I can play the music from my computer on my sur