Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
i think mosa mosa means rapid/good growth.. for laziness they say it as masa masa-nu na.. I have heard ppl telling nellu, nalla mosa mosa-nu varanthirukku.. (crops have grown really well).. I'm not sure.. But sure abt masa masa.. The same example which vithur anna said.. masa masa-nu nikkathey.. My amma used to tell this to me.. :-)
[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
Since there is a lot going on about Vaali, would like to mention something more on the areas where he let ARR. Munbe Va : I cant forgive him for writing those fillers Rango.. Rangoli.. kolangal nee pottai.. it was a joke.. if you have a software that could edit the words and listen to the song, munbe va will be in the top league of his all time best. coming back to Marudhani, probably deepali is a character in the movie.. but wasnt there a better way of incorporating that name. A lyricist of Vaali's caliber can do much beter than that. Vaali is a very senior writer and its hard for composers to ask him to rewrite something. I happened to listen to IR's recording for a Fazil' movie. The song if am right is Kaatril varum geethame... Vaali is a genius and comes up with impromptu lyrics for the song, but the first version is awful.. Even IR requests vaali in a very subdued tone and tells him anna, can you change this to something Am sure ARR has the same challenges too... Vaali is still the best but that doesnt make him right all the time. More than once his lines have been more of a meaningful dialogue than an elegant song. Lets call a spade a spade. I love the songs of S'katti, but it will be a long time before I come to terms with the lyrics. As few others mentioned, we expect high standards from lyricists when they write songs for ARR. Even if its Vaali... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, Vaali has written just one song (Marudhaani) for Sakkaraikatti - and it is definitely brilliant and is undoubtedly the best in the album in terms of lyrics The other songs are by Na Muthukumar and Pa.Vijay and IMHO they are nothing great, and only Vaali's lyrics stand out!! Vaali rocks!!! Vaali-ARR combo has always been great... Mayiliragae, Munbe Vaa, Ella pugazhum and many more songs from vaali are not only beautiful but brilliant too!! I too love Vairamuthu's lyrics, but let's not undermine Vaali, who is a legend and who continues to rock even today! Aravind http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com --- On Fri, 7/18/08, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:48 PM --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, badrie badrie@ wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs.. Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk.. PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
i thought some lines in munbe vaa and marudhaani were fantastic. in munbe vaa: munbe (a very unusual word, but made all the difference to the song) nilavidam vadakai vaangi... poo vaithai (excellent word play here) in marudhaani: marudhaani vizhiyil yaen? (this line is fantastic) saranams r class lets not forget mayilirage. i believe the lyrics amazingly suited the tune and even uplifted it. as a whole, vaali is an amazing lyricist and he reserves his best for ARR. i think ARR should keep requesting vaali for better and better lyrics during their sits together (vaali adores ARR and so no matter how much arr requests from vaali, he will comply, arr is just too nice) lets be happy that arr-vaali combo has given some of the best melodies in recent times starting with thotaal poo malarum (hehe) to marudhaani. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there is a lot going on about Vaali, would like to mention something more on the areas where he let ARR. Munbe Va : I cant forgive him for writing those fillers Rango.. Rangoli.. kolangal nee pottai.. it was a joke.. if you have a software that could edit the words and listen to the song, munbe va will be in the top league of his all time best. coming back to Marudhani, probably deepali is a character in the movie.. but wasnt there a better way of incorporating that name. A lyricist of Vaali's caliber can do much beter than that. Vaali is a very senior writer and its hard for composers to ask him to rewrite something. I happened to listen to IR's recording for a Fazil' movie. The song if am right is Kaatril varum geethame... Vaali is a genius and comes up with impromptu lyrics for the song, but the first version is awful.. Even IR requests vaali in a very subdued tone and tells him anna, can you change this to something Am sure ARR has the same challenges too... Vaali is still the best but that doesnt make him right all the time. More than once his lines have been more of a meaningful dialogue than an elegant song. Lets call a spade a spade. I love the songs of S'katti, but it will be a long time before I come to terms with the lyrics. As few others mentioned, we expect high standards from lyricists when they write songs for ARR. Even if its Vaali... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ wrote: Dude, Vaali has written just one song (Marudhaani) for Sakkaraikatti - and it is definitely brilliant and is undoubtedly the best in the album in terms of lyrics The other songs are by Na Muthukumar and Pa.Vijay and IMHO they are nothing great, and only Vaali's lyrics stand out!! Vaali rocks!!! Vaali-ARR combo has always been great... Mayiliragae, Munbe Vaa, Ella pugazhum and many more songs from vaali are not only beautiful but brilliant too!! I too love Vairamuthu's lyrics, but let's not undermine Vaali, who is a legend and who continues to rock even today! Aravind http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com --- On Fri, 7/18/08, prasanna_arr prasanna_ar@ wrote: From: prasanna_arr prasanna_ar@ Subject: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:48 PM --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, badrie badrie@ wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs.. Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk.. PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
Hi All, I guess Elay songs has excellent lyrics because of the Out of box imagination along with the facts. For an example Katrin mugathil kariyai poosa vendaam... 'CAR'rai vittu cycle vaangi parapoom (Let's stop spoiling the Air... and let's start using cycle) Karuppu kalaril vishakkola vendam... Karumbu juice, Elanyee vaagni kudippoom (Stop drinking poisonCola (Pepsi Coke... and let's drink Sugarcane juice, tender coconut) Do you think this lines are not good? What a revelutionary thought... which is neccessary at this point of time to save the environment. I am very much satisfied with the music and lyrics in this song. - Mathan Raj A --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey i like to the lyrics of all the songs.. most of the times, the lyrics are casual, simple and fit the mood of the song.. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:53 PM, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie
Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
I too feel the Elay lyrics are quite nice.. Well one thing that didnt fit in was 'Lets teach to Charlie Chaplin'. If there is one comedian who didnt need a language to make people smile it was Chaplin.. Other than that, the lyrics are quite nice for this song.. 'Finally a indian song talking about Saving Gaia' Cheers, Srini On Jul 19, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Mathan wrote: Hi All, I guess Elay songs has excellent lyrics because of the Out of box imagination along with the facts. For an example Katrin mugathil kariyai poosa vendaam... 'CAR'rai vittu cycle vaangi parapoom (Let's stop spoiling the Air... and let's start using cycle) Karuppu kalaril vishakkola vendam... Karumbu juice, Elanyee vaagni kudippoom (Stop drinking poisonCola (Pepsi Coke... and let's drink Sugarcane juice, tender coconut) Do you think this lines are not good? What a revelutionary thought... which is neccessary at this point of time to save the environment. I am very much satisfied with the music and lyrics in this song. - Mathan Raj A --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey i like to the lyrics of all the songs.. most of the times, the lyrics are casual, simple and fit the mood of the song.. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:53 PM, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie
Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
There are several songs of ARR in which video added to the beauty of songs. Video rather explained the real scenario and give a perspective to the song. I remember the disappointment members had felt in this list listening to the Rukhi Sukhi Roti of Nayakan. It sounded so rough, so unpolished, so raw - almost bare, naked, ugly - in the first hearings. but then the video came and Shankar's magic rode the head of all music lovers and the the song instantly became likeable. RDB's Luka Chhupi also sounded so overly emotive with bad voices of both Lata and ARR. but then the video came and it touched everybody's heart in an instant. Eyes went wet listening to it, seeing it. Lata's voice sounded 100% perfectly appropriate for an old, grieving mother. So, may be Elay is also in that genre that a video might explain the exact scene sequence in which the song would appear appropriate and perfect. Lyrics wise, this song already appears a visionary song, a manifesto for the new-age youth, a message song. previously, I liked this social awareness part in Mehboob's lyrics. He always put something referring to the current day-to-day real life and gave some message. I liked that effect very much, say, as in Urvashi's last paragraph. bhalai aurato ki kranti ke bina nahin hogi, etc. Seems this lyricist is furthering what Mehboob had started. All praises to the two, and to ARR for bringing such lyrics. -- V On 7/19/2008 2:32 PM India Time, _Srini_ wrote: I too feel the Elay lyrics are quite nice.. Well one thing that didnt fit in was 'Lets teach to Charlie Chaplin'. If there is one comedian who didnt need a language to make people smile it was Chaplin.. Other than that, the lyrics are quite nice for this song.. 'Finally a indian song talking about Saving Gaia' Cheers, Srini On Jul 19, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Mathan wrote: Hi All, I guess Elay songs has excellent lyrics because of the Out of box imagination along with the facts. For an example Katrin mugathil kariyai poosa vendaam... 'CAR'rai vittu cycle vaangi parapoom (Let's stop spoiling the Air... and let's start using cycle) Karuppu kalaril vishakkola vendam... Karumbu juice, Elanyee vaagni kudippoom (Stop drinking poisonCola (Pepsi Coke... and let's drink Sugarcane juice, tender coconut) Do you think this lines are not good? What a revelutionary thought... which is neccessary at this point of time to save the environment. I am very much satisfied with the music and lyrics in this song. - Mathan Raj A --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com mailto:arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey i like to the lyrics of all the songs.. most of the times, the lyrics are casual, simple and fit the mood of the song.. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:53 PM, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie
[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bro Prasanna It wasnt Vaali who wrote Elay VAALI combo with ARR has always been a hit. Pls check before writing. Vaali has written lyrics for Marudhaani, Munbe Vaa and they have been terrrific hits... On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, badrie badrie@ wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs.. Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk.. PS : S'katti songs aren't that good.. -- regards, Vithur ARR -- The Sweet Cube always I am talkin about Marudhaani. the lyrics are ok.. they arin't that good. Vaali writes in avg. tamil but rahman is special, look at Sandhosha kanneere, Poongatrile, Engae En Punnagai etc. We want.. well I want somethin like that.
Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:07 AM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are several songs of ARR in which video added to the beauty of songs. Video rather explained the real scenario and give a perspective to the song. I have had many experiences to the contrary also. I remember the disappointment members had felt in this list listening to the Rukhi Sukhi Roti of Nayakan. It sounded so rough, so unpolished, so raw - almost bare, naked, ugly - in the first hearings. but then the video came and Shankar's magic rode the head of all music lovers and the the song instantly became likeable. RDB's Luka Chhupi also sounded so overly emotive with bad voices of both Lata and ARR. There you go again. :):) In my opinion, Luka Chupi is a masterpiece. I didn't need the video to explain the situation to me. The song clearly talks about a son singing to his mother so everybody knew that it is about a son and mother. but then the video came and it touched everybody's heart in an instant. Eyes went wet listening to it, seeing it. Lata's voice sounded 100% perfectly appropriate for an old, grieving mother. So, may be Elay is also in that genre that a video might explain the exact scene sequence in which the song would appear appropriate and perfect. Lyrics wise, this song already appears a visionary song, a manifesto for the new-age youth, a message song. previously, I liked this social awareness part in Mehboob's lyrics. He always put something referring to the current day-to-day real life and gave some message. I liked that effect very much, say, as in Urvashi's last paragraph. bhalai aurato ki kranti ke bina nahin hogi, etc. That was a direct word to word translation of Vairamuthu's lyrics. Hum Se hai Muqabla was P.K. Mishra Seems this lyricist is furthering what Mehboob had started. All praises to the two, and to ARR for bringing such lyrics. I am not sure ARR plays a great role in the lyrics except whether it fits in the meter. The director would probably play a major role. -- V Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan -
[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs.. Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk.. PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
The Taxi Taxi lyrics was ok in the paragraphs. but the Initial one - Nanban kidaithal ellam OC , Nanba - nee oru ilavasa taxi You get everything for free, if you have a friend, Oh friend, you are like a free taxi, sounds cheap and jarring. The paragraph lyrics are kind of cute. :) Elay is decent. In my opinion, The others are strictly ok. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan - On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs.. Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk.. PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
Dude, Vaali has written just one song (Marudhaani) for Sakkaraikatti - and it is definitely brilliant and is undoubtedly the best in the album in terms of lyrics The other songs are by Na Muthukumar and Pa.Vijay and IMHO they are nothing great, and only Vaali's lyrics stand out!! Vaali rocks!!! Vaali-ARR combo has always been great... Mayiliragae, Munbe Vaa, Ella pugazhum and many more songs from vaali are not only beautiful but brilliant too!! I too love Vairamuthu's lyrics, but let's not undermine Vaali, who is a legend and who continues to rock even today! Aravind http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com --- On Fri, 7/18/08, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:48 PM --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs.. Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk.. PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
Bro Prasanna It wasnt Vaali who wrote Elay VAALI combo with ARR has always been a hit. Pls check before writing. Vaali has written lyrics for Marudhaani, Munbe Vaa and they have been terrrific hits... On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him down. Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given a lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think the lyricists have done justice to their part. The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. For most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he has to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in songs. Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a Mani or Shankar movie. The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another lousy filler.. Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. badrie 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs.. Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk.. PS : S'katti songs aren't that good.. -- regards, Vithur ARR -- The Sweet Cube always