Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-22 Thread Tina Jo
i think mosa mosa means rapid/good growth.. for laziness they say it as masa
masa-nu na.. I have heard ppl telling nellu, nalla mosa mosa-nu
varanthirukku.. (crops have grown really well).. I'm not sure.. But sure abt
masa masa.. The same example which vithur anna said.. masa masa-nu
nikkathey.. My amma used to tell this to me.. :-)


[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-20 Thread badrie
Since there is a lot going on about Vaali, would like to mention 
something more on the areas where he let ARR. 

Munbe Va : I cant forgive him for writing those fillers Rango.. 
Rangoli.. kolangal nee pottai.. it was a joke.. if you have a 
software that could edit the words and listen to the song, munbe va 
will be in the top league of his all time best. 

coming back to Marudhani, probably deepali is a character in the 
movie.. but wasnt there a better way of incorporating that name. A 
lyricist of Vaali's caliber can do much beter than that. 

Vaali is a very senior writer and its hard for composers to ask him 
to rewrite something. I happened to listen to IR's recording for a 
Fazil' movie. The song if am right is Kaatril varum geethame...  
Vaali is a genius and comes up with impromptu lyrics for the song, 
but the first version is awful.. Even IR requests vaali in a very 
subdued tone and tells him anna, can you change this to 
something Am sure ARR has the same challenges too...

Vaali is still the best but that doesnt make him right all the time. 
More than once his lines have been more of a meaningful dialogue than 
an elegant song. Lets call a spade a spade. I love the songs of 
S'katti, but it will be a long time before I come to terms with the 
lyrics. As few others mentioned, we expect high standards from 
lyricists when they write songs for ARR. Even if its Vaali...

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Dude, 
 
 Vaali has written just one song (Marudhaani) for Sakkaraikatti - 
and it is definitely brilliant and is undoubtedly the best in the 
album in terms of lyrics The other songs are by Na Muthukumar and 
Pa.Vijay and IMHO they are nothing great, and only Vaali's lyrics 
stand out!!
 
 Vaali rocks!!! Vaali-ARR combo has always been great...  
 Mayiliragae, Munbe Vaa, Ella pugazhum  and many more songs from 
vaali are not only beautiful but brilliant too!!
 
 I too love Vairamuthu's lyrics, but let's not undermine Vaali, who 
is a legend and who continues to rock even today!
 
 
 Aravind
 
 
 http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com
 
  Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com
 
 --- On Fri, 7/18/08, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let 
down
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, badrie 
badrie@ wrote:
 
 
 
  Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this 
is
 
  not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let 
him 
 
 down.
 
  
 
  Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously 
given 
 
 a
 
  lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont 
think
 
  the lyricists have done justice to their part. 
 
  
 
  The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
 
  believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. 
 
 For
 
  most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
 
  giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think 
he 
 
 has
 
  to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in 
 
 songs.
 
  Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
 
  Mani or Shankar movie. 
 
  
 
  The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
 
  ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another 
 
 lousy
 
  filler..
 
  
 
  Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to 
learn
 
  from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. 
 
  
 
  badrie
 
 
 
 
 
 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist 
 
 Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..
 
 
 
 Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..
 
 
 
 PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..





[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-20 Thread Thineshan
i thought some lines in munbe vaa and marudhaani were fantastic. 
in munbe vaa: 
munbe (a very unusual word, but made all the difference to the song)
nilavidam vadakai vaangi...
poo vaithai (excellent word play here)

in marudhaani: 
marudhaani vizhiyil yaen? (this line is fantastic)
saranams r class

lets not forget mayilirage. i believe the lyrics amazingly suited the
tune and even uplifted it. 

as a whole, vaali is an amazing lyricist and he reserves his best for
ARR. i think ARR should keep requesting vaali for better and better
lyrics during their sits together (vaali adores ARR and so no matter
how much arr requests from vaali, he will comply, arr is just too nice)

lets be happy that arr-vaali combo has given some of the best melodies
in recent times starting with thotaal poo malarum (hehe) to marudhaani. 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since there is a lot going on about Vaali, would like to mention 
 something more on the areas where he let ARR. 
 
 Munbe Va : I cant forgive him for writing those fillers Rango.. 
 Rangoli.. kolangal nee pottai.. it was a joke.. if you have a 
 software that could edit the words and listen to the song, munbe va 
 will be in the top league of his all time best. 
 
 coming back to Marudhani, probably deepali is a character in the 
 movie.. but wasnt there a better way of incorporating that name. A 
 lyricist of Vaali's caliber can do much beter than that. 
 
 Vaali is a very senior writer and its hard for composers to ask him 
 to rewrite something. I happened to listen to IR's recording for a 
 Fazil' movie. The song if am right is Kaatril varum geethame...  
 Vaali is a genius and comes up with impromptu lyrics for the song, 
 but the first version is awful.. Even IR requests vaali in a very 
 subdued tone and tells him anna, can you change this to 
 something Am sure ARR has the same challenges too...
 
 Vaali is still the best but that doesnt make him right all the time. 
 More than once his lines have been more of a meaningful dialogue than 
 an elegant song. Lets call a spade a spade. I love the songs of 
 S'katti, but it will be a long time before I come to terms with the 
 lyrics. As few others mentioned, we expect high standards from 
 lyricists when they write songs for ARR. Even if its Vaali...
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ 
 wrote:
 
  Dude, 
  
  Vaali has written just one song (Marudhaani) for Sakkaraikatti - 
 and it is definitely brilliant and is undoubtedly the best in the 
 album in terms of lyrics The other songs are by Na Muthukumar and 
 Pa.Vijay and IMHO they are nothing great, and only Vaali's lyrics 
 stand out!!
  
  Vaali rocks!!! Vaali-ARR combo has always been great...  
  Mayiliragae, Munbe Vaa, Ella pugazhum  and many more songs from 
 vaali are not only beautiful but brilliant too!!
  
  I too love Vairamuthu's lyrics, but let's not undermine Vaali, who 
 is a legend and who continues to rock even today!
  
  
  Aravind
  
  
  http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com
  
   Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com
  
  --- On Fri, 7/18/08, prasanna_arr prasanna_ar@ wrote:
  From: prasanna_arr prasanna_ar@
  Subject: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let 
 down
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:48 PM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, badrie 
 badrie@ wrote:
  
  
  
   Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this 
 is
  
   not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let 
 him 
  
  down.
  
   
  
   Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously 
 given 
  
  a
  
   lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont 
 think
  
   the lyricists have done justice to their part. 
  
   
  
   The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
  
   believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. 
  
  For
  
   most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
  
   giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think 
 he 
  
  has
  
   to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in 
  
  songs.
  
   Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
  
   Mani or Shankar movie. 
  
   
  
   The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
  
   ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another 
  
  lousy
  
   filler..
  
   
  
   Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to 
 learn
  
   from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. 
  
   
  
   badrie
  
  
  
  
  
  1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist 
  
  Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..
  
  
  
  Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..
  
  
  
  PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
 





[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-19 Thread Mathan
Hi All,

I guess Elay songs has excellent lyrics because of the Out of box 
imagination along with the facts. For an example 

Katrin mugathil kariyai poosa vendaam... 'CAR'rai vittu cycle vaangi 
parapoom
(Let's stop spoiling the Air... and let's start using cycle)

Karuppu kalaril vishakkola vendam... Karumbu juice, Elanyee vaagni 
kudippoom
(Stop drinking poisonCola (Pepsi  Coke... and let's drink 
Sugarcane juice, tender coconut)

Do you think this lines are not good? What a revelutionary thought...
which is neccessary at this point of time to save the environment.

I am very much satisfied with the music and lyrics in this song. 

 - Mathan Raj A 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 hey i like to the lyrics of all the songs.. most of the times, the 
lyrics
 are casual, simple and fit the mood of the song..
 
 On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:53 PM, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but 
this is
  not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let 
him down.
 
  Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously 
given a
  lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont 
think
  the lyricists have done justice to their part.
 
  The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
  believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. 
For
  most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
  giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think 
he has
  to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in 
songs.
  Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
  Mani or Shankar movie.
 
  The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
  ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another 
lousy
  filler..
 
  Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to 
learn
  from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu.
 
  badrie
 
   
 





Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-19 Thread Srini
I too feel the Elay lyrics are quite nice.. Well one thing that didnt  
fit in was 'Lets teach to Charlie Chaplin'. If there is one comedian  
who didnt need a language to make people smile it was Chaplin..


Other than that, the lyrics are quite nice for this song.. 'Finally a  
indian song talking about Saving Gaia'


Cheers,
Srini



On Jul 19, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Mathan wrote:


Hi All,

I guess Elay songs has excellent lyrics because of the Out of box
imagination along with the facts. For an example

Katrin mugathil kariyai poosa vendaam... 'CAR'rai vittu cycle vaangi
parapoom
(Let's stop spoiling the Air... and let's start using cycle)

Karuppu kalaril vishakkola vendam... Karumbu juice, Elanyee vaagni
kudippoom
(Stop drinking poisonCola (Pepsi  Coke... and let's drink
Sugarcane juice, tender coconut)

Do you think this lines are not good? What a revelutionary thought...
which is neccessary at this point of time to save the environment.

I am very much satisfied with the music and lyrics in this song.

- Mathan Raj A

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 hey i like to the lyrics of all the songs.. most of the times, the
lyrics
 are casual, simple and fit the mood of the song..

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:53 PM, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but
this is
  not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let
him down.
 
  Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously
given a
  lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont
think
  the lyricists have done justice to their part.
 
  The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
  believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking.
For
  most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
  giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think
he has
  to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in
songs.
  Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
  Mani or Shankar movie.
 
  The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
  ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another
lousy
  filler..
 
  Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to
learn
  from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu.
 
  badrie
 
 
 








Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-19 Thread V S Rawat
There are several songs of ARR in which video added to the beauty of 
songs. Video rather explained the real scenario and give a perspective 
to the song.

I remember the disappointment members had felt in this list listening to 
the Rukhi Sukhi Roti of Nayakan. It sounded so rough, so unpolished, so 
raw - almost bare, naked, ugly - in the first hearings.

but then the video came and Shankar's magic rode the head of all music 
lovers and the the song instantly became likeable.

RDB's Luka Chhupi also sounded so overly emotive with bad voices of both 
Lata and ARR.

but then the video came and it touched everybody's heart in an instant. 
Eyes went wet listening to it, seeing it. Lata's voice sounded 100% 
perfectly appropriate for an old, grieving mother.

So, may be Elay is also in that genre that a video might explain the 
exact scene sequence in which the song would appear appropriate and 
perfect. Lyrics wise, this song already appears a visionary song, a 
manifesto for the new-age youth, a message song.

previously, I liked this social awareness part in Mehboob's lyrics. He 
always put something referring to the current day-to-day real life and 
gave some message. I liked that effect very much, say, as in Urvashi's 
last paragraph. bhalai aurato ki kranti ke bina nahin hogi, etc.

Seems this lyricist is furthering what Mehboob had started. All praises 
to the two, and to ARR for bringing such lyrics.

--
V

On 7/19/2008 2:32 PM India Time, _Srini_ wrote:

 I too feel the Elay lyrics are quite nice.. Well one thing that didnt 
 fit in was 'Lets teach to Charlie Chaplin'. If there is one comedian who 
 didnt need a language to make people smile it was Chaplin..
 
 Other than that, the lyrics are quite nice for this song.. 'Finally a 
 indian song talking about Saving Gaia'
 
 Cheers,
 Srini
 
 
 
 On Jul 19, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Mathan wrote:
 
 Hi All,

 I guess Elay songs has excellent lyrics because of the Out of box 
 imagination along with the facts. For an example 

 Katrin mugathil kariyai poosa vendaam... 'CAR'rai vittu cycle vaangi 
 parapoom
 (Let's stop spoiling the Air... and let's start using cycle)

 Karuppu kalaril vishakkola vendam... Karumbu juice, Elanyee vaagni 
 kudippoom
 (Stop drinking poisonCola (Pepsi  Coke... and let's drink 
 Sugarcane juice, tender coconut)

 Do you think this lines are not good? What a revelutionary thought...
 which is neccessary at this point of time to save the environment.

 I am very much satisfied with the music and lyrics in this song. 

 - Mathan Raj A 

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  hey i like to the lyrics of all the songs.. most of the times, the 
 lyrics
  are casual, simple and fit the mood of the song..
  
  On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:53 PM, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but 
 this is
   not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let 
 him down.
  
   Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously 
 given a
   lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont 
 think
   the lyricists have done justice to their part.
  
   The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
   believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. 
 For
   most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
   giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think 
 he has
   to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in 
 songs.
   Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
   Mani or Shankar movie.
  
   The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
   ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another 
 lousy
   filler..
  
   Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to 
 learn
   from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu.
  
   badrie




[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-19 Thread prasanna_arr
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bro Prasanna It wasnt Vaali who wrote Elay  VAALI combo 
with ARR has
 always been a hit. Pls check before writing.
 
 Vaali has written lyrics for Marudhaani, Munbe Vaa and they have 
been
 terrrific hits...
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%
40yahoogroups.com,
  badrie badrie@ wrote:
  
   Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but 
this is
   not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let 
him
  down.
  
   Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously 
given
  a
   lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont 
think
   the lyricists have done justice to their part.
  
   The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I 
cant
   believe they got into the song, what the hell were they 
thinking.
  For
   most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR 
for
   giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think 
he
  has
   to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in
  songs.
   Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng 
in a
   Mani or Shankar movie.
  
   The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress 
on
   ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another
  lousy
   filler..
  
   Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to 
learn
   from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu.
  
   badrie
  
 
  1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist
  Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..
 
  Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..
 
  PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
 
  
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 regards,
 Vithur
 
 ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

I am talkin about  Marudhaani. the lyrics are ok.. they arin't 
that good. 
Vaali writes in avg. tamil but rahman is special, look at Sandhosha 
kanneere, Poongatrile, Engae En Punnagai  etc. We want.. well I 
want somethin like that.





Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-19 Thread Vinayakam Murugan
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:07 AM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are several songs of ARR in which video added to the beauty of
 songs. Video rather explained the real scenario and give a perspective
 to the song.

I have had many experiences to the contrary also.


 I remember the disappointment members had felt in this list listening to
 the Rukhi Sukhi Roti of Nayakan. It sounded so rough, so unpolished, so
 raw - almost bare, naked, ugly - in the first hearings.

 but then the video came and Shankar's magic rode the head of all music
 lovers and the the song instantly became likeable.

 RDB's Luka Chhupi also sounded so overly emotive with bad voices of both
 Lata and ARR.

There you go again. :):)

In my opinion, Luka Chupi is a masterpiece. I didn't need the video to
explain the situation to me. The song clearly talks about a son
singing to his mother so everybody knew that it is about a son and
mother.

 but then the video came and it touched everybody's heart in an instant.
 Eyes went wet listening to it, seeing it. Lata's voice sounded 100%
 perfectly appropriate for an old, grieving mother.

 So, may be Elay is also in that genre that a video might explain the
 exact scene sequence in which the song would appear appropriate and
 perfect. Lyrics wise, this song already appears a visionary song, a
 manifesto for the new-age youth, a message song.

 previously, I liked this social awareness part in Mehboob's lyrics. He
 always put something referring to the current day-to-day real life and
 gave some message. I liked that effect very much, say, as in Urvashi's
 last paragraph. bhalai aurato ki kranti ke bina nahin hogi, etc.

That was a direct word to word translation of Vairamuthu's lyrics. Hum
Se hai Muqabla was P.K. Mishra

 Seems this lyricist is furthering what Mehboob had started. All praises
 to the two, and to ARR for bringing such lyrics.

I am not sure ARR plays a great role in the lyrics except whether it
fits in the meter. The director would probably play a major role.

 --
 V


Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai
chal rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-


[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-18 Thread prasanna_arr
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is
 not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him 
down.
 
 Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given 
a
 lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think
 the lyricists have done justice to their part. 
 
 The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
 believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. 
For
 most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
 giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he 
has
 to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in 
songs.
 Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
 Mani or Shankar movie. 
 
 The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
 ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another 
lousy
 filler..
 
 Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn
 from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. 
 
 badrie


1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist 
Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..

Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..

PS : S'katti songs aren't that good.. 




Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-18 Thread Vinayakam Murugan
The Taxi Taxi lyrics was ok in the paragraphs. but the Initial one - Nanban
kidaithal ellam OC , Nanba - nee oru ilavasa taxi You get everything for
free, if you have  a friend, Oh friend, you are like a free taxi, sounds
cheap and jarring.

The paragraph lyrics are kind of cute. :)

Elay is decent.

In my opinion, The others are strictly ok.

Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal
rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-


On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is
  not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him
 down.
 
  Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given
 a
  lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think
  the lyricists have done justice to their part.
 
  The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
  believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking.
 For
  most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
  giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he
 has
  to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in
 songs.
  Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
  Mani or Shankar movie.
 
  The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
  ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another
 lousy
  filler..
 
  Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn
  from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu.
 
  badrie
 

 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist
 Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..

 Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..

 PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..

  



Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-18 Thread Aravind AM
Dude, 

Vaali has written just one song (Marudhaani) for Sakkaraikatti - and it is 
definitely brilliant and is undoubtedly the best in the album in terms of 
lyrics The other songs are by Na Muthukumar and Pa.Vijay and IMHO they are 
nothing great, and only Vaali's lyrics stand out!!

Vaali rocks!!! Vaali-ARR combo has always been great...  
Mayiliragae, Munbe Vaa, Ella pugazhum  and many more songs from vaali are not 
only beautiful but brilliant too!!

I too love Vairamuthu's lyrics, but let's not undermine Vaali, who is a legend 
and who continues to rock even today!


Aravind


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--- On Fri, 7/18/08, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:48 PM











--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



 Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is

 not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him 

down.

 

 Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given 

a

 lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think

 the lyricists have done justice to their part. 

 

 The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant

 believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking. 

For

 most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for

 giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he 

has

 to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in 

songs.

 Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a

 Mani or Shankar movie. 

 

 The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on

 ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another 

lousy

 filler..

 

 Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn

 from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu. 

 

 badrie





1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist 

Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..



Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..



PS : S'katti songs aren't that good.. 




  




 

















  

Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

2008-07-18 Thread Vithur
Bro Prasanna It wasnt Vaali who wrote Elay  VAALI combo with ARR has
always been a hit. Pls check before writing.

Vaali has written lyrics for Marudhaani, Munbe Vaa and they have been
terrrific hits...




On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, prasanna_arr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 badrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but this is
  not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let him
 down.
 
  Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously given
 a
  lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont think
  the lyricists have done justice to their part.
 
  The fillers in songs like Elay...mosa mosanu valanthom.. I cant
  believe they got into the song, what the hell were they thinking.
 For
  most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR for
  giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think he
 has
  to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in
 songs.
  Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng in a
  Mani or Shankar movie.
 
  The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress on
  ummma umma in one of the lines in between. Once again another
 lousy
  filler..
 
  Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to learn
  from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu.
 
  badrie
 

 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist
 Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..

 Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..

 PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..

 




-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always