Re: ENGAGE / ENRAGE

[Danny Kellett]

Well said Claire.

> On 29 Jul 2014, at 06:02, "Sanford, Claire" 
>  wrote:
> 
> **
> My plan was to come on Sunday and leave on Saturday.  I planned on attending 
> the certification sessions.  They are not even worth it!  
> 
> Dan, how can we give them the benefit of the doubt?  They have had since 2009 
> to watch and learn how to do it from the Masters!! People that managed to 
> hold down a full time job and do the conference!   They even appear to have 
> hired a company to do all the heavy lifting for them!  I know you probably 
> have to be supportive, the rest of us don’t.  It is extremely disappointing.  
> I talked this up to a co-worker who was also going to ask to attend this 
> year.  There is one CMDB session (maybe 2?).   How can he justify the 
> expense!?  
> 
> I was looking forward to this because it was sort of like “going home again”. 
>  The RUG that was held there before was so full of great memories and 
> learning that I really wanted it to be good! 
>  
> Then again that conference had you,  Rick Cook, Warren Baltimore, Pat Zandi, 
> Kim Moody, Phil Bautista and a host of other really awesome people to learn 
> from! The conversations were both entertaining and very educational!
> 
> Remember the ARSLIST party in the Sushi Restaurant!  Very well attended and 
> lots of fun!  “Look for the bright pink sign that says ARSLIST”  The midnight 
> raid of the vending machines, the trip 10 miles away to purchase beverages.   
> I am starting to feel old!
> 
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:30 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> They may be busy but I look at the sessions and still struggle to see any 
> technical depth for the BMC Remedy area. It might be there but with the 
> naming of sessions I can’t tell.
>  
> That being said, and of course I am biased, let’s give them the benefit of 
> the doubt. After all, BMC hasn’t done a North American conference since 2007, 
> so they are probably working hard to get it right.
> Everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt in 2009, or at least a couple of 
> hundred of you did J
>  
> As for Evening sessions, Evening with Engineering has been on their schedule 
> since day one, unique and important and worth attending the conference just 
> for it!
> For additional interesting networking, stay tuned, something will be worked 
> out …..
>  
> How many are arriving Sunday (or before)  or leaving after Thursday?
>  
> I am giving up Canadian Thanksgiving Monday to be there, I need it to be 
> worthwhile!
>  
> Cheers … Dan
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
> Sent: July 28, 2014 7:51 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> I think they are busy planning the conference. 
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury"  wrote:
> **
> Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
> **
> Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
> Could be doable :)
> 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
> 
> **
> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can 
> set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
> **
> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
> like, or small breakouts or something...
> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...
> 
> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
> it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use 
> the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
> 
> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
> whatever?
> 
> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that 
> could be a problem with BMC rules though).
> 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
> 
> **
> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached 
> out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love 
> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker 
> pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing 
> Consultant
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
> **
> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
> 
> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So 
> or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or yo

Re: ENGAGE / ENRAGE

[Sanford, Claire]

My plan was to come on Sunday and leave on Saturday.  I planned on attending 
the certification sessions.  They are not even worth it!

Dan, how can we give them the benefit of the doubt?  They have had since 2009 
to watch and learn how to do it from the Masters!! People that managed to hold 
down a full time job and do the conference!   They even appear to have hired a 
company to do all the heavy lifting for them!  I know you probably have to be 
supportive, the rest of us don’t.  It is extremely disappointing.  I talked 
this up to a co-worker who was also going to ask to attend this year.  There is 
one CMDB session (maybe 2?).  How can he justify the expense!?

I was looking forward to this because it was sort of like “going home again”.  
The RUG that was held there before was so full of great memories and learning 
that I really wanted it to be good!

Then again that conference had you,  Rick Cook, Warren Baltimore, Pat Zandi, 
Kim Moody, Phil Bautista and a host of other really awesome people to learn 
from! The conversations were both entertaining and very educational!

Remember the ARSLIST party in the Sushi Restaurant!  Very well attended and 
lots of fun!  “Look for the bright pink sign that says ARSLIST”  The midnight 
raid of the vending machines, the trip 10 miles away to purchase beverages.   I 
am starting to feel old!

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
They may be busy but I look at the sessions and still struggle to see any 
technical depth for the BMC Remedy area. It might be there but with the naming 
of sessions I can’t tell.

That being said, and of course I am biased, let’s give them the benefit of the 
doubt. After all, BMC hasn’t done a North American conference since 2007, so 
they are probably working hard to get it right.
Everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt in 2009, or at least a couple of 
hundred of you did ☺

As for Evening sessions, Evening with Engineering has been on their schedule 
since day one, unique and important and worth attending the conference just for 
it!
For additional interesting networking, stay tuned, something will be worked out 
…..

How many are arriving Sunday (or before)  or leaving after Thursday?

I am giving up Canadian Thanksgiving Monday to be there, I need it to be 
worthwhile!

Cheers … Dan

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: July 28, 2014 7:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

I think they are busy planning the conference.

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
Could be doable :)

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can 
set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the 
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could 
be a problem with BMC rules though).

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached 
out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking 
(by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker 
pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing 
Consultant

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or 
you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend 
the breakouts (and miss the candy)?

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook 
mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**