Re: [Assam] Fwd: Stand with Anna Hazare
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:49:16 +0530 wrote WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY STAND BY RESPECTED ANNA HAZARE FOR HIS FIGHT FOR A NOBLE CAUSE. TIME HAS COME TO PROTEST AGAINST ALL THE CORRUPTION IN ALL SPHERE OF LIFE,AT AT EACH STAGES.BE IT A RICKSHAW PULLER OR A ROLLS-ROYCE DRIVER. GAUTAM. -Original Message- From: bishwajeet sinha To: aigeto...@yahoogroups.com; aigetoa_b...@yahoogroups.com; bishwajeetsi...@aol.in Sent: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 3:12 pm Subject: Stand with Anna Hazare Hello, I just signed a petition to stand with Anna Hazare who has committed to fast-unto-death, unless the Indian government endorses the powerful new Jan Lokpal Bill to tackle the plague of corruption. Across the country people are joining this massive public outcry and the pressure is building. Click below to sign: http://www.avaaz.org/en/stand_with_anna_hazare_fb/96.php ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Gautam Bhattacharjee BA Multiwall Packaging Ltd M.G Road, InduBhawan Jorhat-785001 Assam. 94354-37427, 0376-2300580 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] FW: Thanks for taking action
Dear Sondon, Thanks for your input. I don't have the baggage to answer to the questions raised by you. Generally on the net we participate in the intellectual discussions for our own ego-satisfaction. It does not lead to a solution to the problem. When I received the request to sign the petition to support the call for setting up a committee where representatives from the society will get an opportunity to work together with the government to draft an effective Lokpal Bill, I thought that instead of being a finger pointer let me inform others. More than 500.000 signed in one day. It also shows the power of Internet. Over the past 12 months India has been rocked by several major corruption scandals (or continuous chain of corruption cases). The country has slipped to the 87th spot in Transparency International's latest ranking of nations based on the level of corruption. Assam is the most corrupt province of India [http://brd.instablogs.com/entry/assam-ranks-as-most-corrupt-state]. We know that complex official procedures and several approvals needed to get projects going are linked to efforts by private firms to bribe their way through the system to get clearances. A recent study by research firm Marketing and Development Research Associates (MDRA) showed that 9 out of 10 employees working in private firms feel that corruption or fraud is a common phenomenon in corporate India [http://www.mdraonline.com/21%20January%20MDRA%20Corporate%20Corruption.pdf] . The study by KPMG said large investments, complex processes and huge projects give immense opportunity for corruption in sectors such as telecoms and real estate. [http://www.track2realty.com/realty-most-corruption-prone-sector-in-india-kp mg]. We have no answer to tackle these issues. I hope that the (Jan)Lokpal bill will be able to address some of the issues related to corruption in India. It might be the start of people power in India. Greetings, WK -Original Message- From: Chan Mahanta [mailto:cmaha...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 April 2011 15:28 To: w.sa...@indiawijzer.nl; A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Cc: Chan Mahanta Subject: Re: [Assam] FW: Thanks for taking action Thanks for sharing it WK. Where have we heard these before :-)? Anyway, Raghu gets it, but not fully. That is the unfortunate part, that some like Raghu, who has been in the thick of it and has seen it all, does not quite understand the deficiencies or the dysfunction of the SYSTEM, which he has rightly fingered. Why do I say that? Simple: A mere ratification of the UN Charter on CORRUPTION will go nowhere and nothing will come out of it, until the enforcement and adjudication system is drastically CHANGED, made functional! Why? It should be clear to anyone who has watched this and have a basic understanding of a democratic society with a respect for what is referred to as DUE PROCESS, ought to know, that just because someone gets CAUGHT with violation of the RULES , will ever be held accountable by the dysfunctional-desi-system. The investigators could be unqualified, without resources, underfunded, under-quipped, un-trained, politically influenced and even be corrupted. A crafty lawyer could easily portray the evidence to be discredited or show that they do not measure up to the standards of justice. The prosecutor could be incompetent, could be compromised. The judges could be compromised, exactly by the same forces. Add to that the current state of a 30 yr. backlog, in which the corrupt accused can laugh all the way to his grave. So, how does anyone held to account? I am appalled by the this amazing absence of understanding of how the process is supposed to work, even by India's best. I lay the blame to the absence of EDUCATION about WHAT democracy consists of and how its institutions are supposed to work. In the absence of this knowledge base in the citizenry, nothing really could be expected to change. But in the meantime, things could be done. I delineated some of those things, three or four years back, much to the chagrin of some of our friends right here, who were prompt to discredit them :-). c On Apr 8, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Wahid Saleh - Indiawijzer wrote: . Please watch this YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlyyE7wDzNk to hear T R Raghunandan, the Ex-IAS Officer's speech and see his presentation on corruption in India. You will be surprised to see and read why the corrupt ones go scot free and how they get the courage for all their corrupt activities, so easily in India. .Then go to IPaidABribe.com (copy and paste) and register to push for anti-corruption laws in India. From: Avaaz.org [mailto:av...@avaaz.org] Sent: 07 April 2011 23:38 To: indiawijzer...@gmail.com Subject: Thanks for taking action Avaaz usually sends about one email per week, offering a chance to take quick action on an urgent global issue. If you received this message in
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Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa
Sondon Now that I am thinking, changing the name Orissa (r = ro) to Odissa (d=dore ro) is real dumb if they mean to keep the pronunciation same as Orissa. Now nobody would pronounce it Orissa, and everybody would pronounce it Odisa. ( This also shows how Sanskrit is still controlling the ignorant intellectuals). In Assamese it is what we call, 'Gorom bhator dhwai khwa.' or 'Burir kam nai, xakot bon di base'. Anyhow this is a good answer to the opponents of the spelling Oxom who claim that nobody would pronounce X as Assamese XO. If Oriyans can write D and expect people to pronounce it as R, Assamese also can write X and expect people to pronounce it as XO. Thanks Rajen From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:33:26 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). Not s fast , A ! Did you really think I did not attempt to even think this thru :-)? Different issues here. This is how: ASOM is neither Assam, an ancient name of our region, nor is it Oxom, as the predominantly known sound of the geographical area thus named. ASOM is a misguided ( to put it mildly) and ignorant ( to say it like it is) way to transliterate the Oxom name in Roman script. ASOM does NOT sound anything like Oxom. And the ONLY reason for attemting to re-name Assam to ASOM, is based on the IGNORANT argument that Assam was a colonial term, coined by the British. See the difference? I don't know HOW the Oriyas pronounce the name of their state: as Orissa, or Orisha or Odisha or some other form. But if I am unaware of the peculiarity of this 'd' letter representing an 'rd' sound, then I would pronounce Odisha's 'd' as in Godiva, completely turning the intent behind the change on its head. c-da On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote: Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). It may not make sense to others but it does to us. There are some other Indian words that are spelt with a 'd' but pronounced as 'r'. These words only come to my mind right now...Kadai-chicken and Kodai-kanal. Now I am not sure if I am doing a 'khugi gaali-khuwa' work from you this morning :), C'da, but had to say this as you seem to understand the need for Oxom(?), but did not Odisha. It would be difficult to keep up with all these name changes, Odisha, Chennai, Mumbai, Pune, and hopefully 'Oxom', someday, no? From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:07:17 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa It is a matter for the Odiyas. But somehow I fail to understand how the 'r' replaced with 'd' will feel them any more Odiya than Oriya, considering the fact that few English speakers would know the difference or care. It is, at best, a demonstration of ethnic insecurity. cm On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Bidyananda Barkakoty wrote: Parliament approves new name for Orissa PTI – Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:36 PM IST New Delhi, March 24 (PTI) Orissa will hereafter be called ''Odisha'' and the Oriya language will be known as ''Odia'' with Parliament giving approval to amendment of the Constitution and also passing the related bill. The Rajya Sabha passed the Orissa (the Alteration of Name) Bill and adopted the Constitution (113th) Amendment Bill after a brief debate with members from all parties hailing the move as historic for people of the state. Supported by all parties, including the Biju Janta Dal, the Constitution Amendment Bill was adopted by all 169 members present and voting. Such a bill requires support of at least two-third of members present and voting. Besides, the majority of the strength of the House should be present for voting. The Upper House has a strength of 245 members. Lok Sabha has already adopted these measures after the Centre received the resolution passed by the state Assembly. While there was all round support for the measure, BJP and Congress members sought to target Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik charging him with non-performance and heading a government facing scams. The bills were piloted by Home Minister P Chidambaram. However, the electronic voting system witnessed glitches during the division so much so that even Prime Minister Manmohan Singh''s vote was also cast wrongly. Participating in the debate, members said the name change was the process of decolonisation as Britishers had changed the Indian names of cities and states. Pyarimohan Mohapatra (BJD) said it was a great moment for
Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa
Or, Vice versa! :-) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Rajen Barua baru...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 22:59:30 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa Sondon Now that I am thinking, changing the name Orissa (r = ro) to Odissa (d=dore ro) is real dumb if they mean to keep the pronunciation same as Orissa. Now nobody would pronounce it Orissa, and everybody would pronounce it Odisa. ( This also shows how Sanskrit is still controlling the ignorant intellectuals). In Assamese it is what we call, 'Gorom bhator dhwai khwa.' or 'Burir kam nai, xakot bon di base'. Anyhow this is a good answer to the opponents of the spelling Oxom who claim that nobody would pronounce X as Assamese XO. If Oriyans can write D and expect people to pronounce it as R, Assamese also can write X and expect people to pronounce it as XO. Thanks Rajen From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:33:26 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). Not s fast , A ! Did you really think I did not attempt to even think this thru :-)? Different issues here. This is how: ASOM is neither Assam, an ancient name of our region, nor is it Oxom, as the predominantly known sound of the geographical area thus named. ASOM is a misguided ( to put it mildly) and ignorant ( to say it like it is) way to transliterate the Oxom name in Roman script. ASOM does NOT sound anything like Oxom. And the ONLY reason for attemting to re-name Assam to ASOM, is based on the IGNORANT argument that Assam was a colonial term, coined by the British. See the difference? I don't know HOW the Oriyas pronounce the name of their state: as Orissa, or Orisha or Odisha or some other form. But if I am unaware of the peculiarity of this 'd' letter representing an 'rd' sound, then I would pronounce Odisha's 'd' as in Godiva, completely turning the intent behind the change on its head. c-da On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote: Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). It may not make sense to others but it does to us. There are some other Indian words that are spelt with a 'd' but pronounced as 'r'. These words only come to my mind right now...Kadai-chicken and Kodai-kanal. Now I am not sure if I am doing a 'khugi gaali-khuwa' work from you this morning :), C'da, but had to say this as you seem to understand the need for Oxom(?), but did not Odisha. It would be difficult to keep up with all these name changes, Odisha, Chennai, Mumbai, Pune, and hopefully 'Oxom', someday, no? From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:07:17 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa It is a matter for the Odiyas. But somehow I fail to understand how the 'r' replaced with 'd' will feel them any more Odiya than Oriya, considering the fact that few English speakers would know the difference or care. It is, at best, a demonstration of ethnic insecurity. cm On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Bidyananda Barkakoty wrote: Parliament approves new name for Orissa PTI - Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:36 PM IST New Delhi, March 24 (PTI) Orissa will hereafter be called ''Odisha'' and the Oriya language will be known as ''Odia'' with Parliament giving approval to amendment of the Constitution and also passing the related bill. The Rajya Sabha passed the Orissa (the Alteration of Name) Bill and adopted the Constitution (113th) Amendment Bill after a brief debate with members from all parties hailing the move as historic for people of the state. Supported by all parties, including the Biju Janta Dal, the Constitution Amendment Bill was adopted by all 169 members present and voting. Such a bill requires support of at least two-third of members present and voting. Besides, the majority of the strength of the House should be present for voting. The Upper House has a strength of 245 members. Lok Sabha has already adopted these measures after the Centre received the resolution passed by the state Assembly. While there was all round support for the measure, BJP and Congress members sought to target Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik charging him with non-performance and heading a government facing scams. The bills were piloted by Home Minister P Chidambaram. However, the
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Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa
Rajenda Very well analysed. Name is nothing but a sign. In management parley, its also called brand, and we may have positive or negative brand equity, depending on the usage, exposure and value attached and perception in public mind. Sometimes we change names to shed some negative equity/image. In Assam many communities adopted new names, new spellings to redeem pride or reposition themselves. British had problem in spelling Indian names. Many British legacies were shed later, e.g. Gauhati became Guwahati, Baroda became Vadodara. Orissa was a British assigned spelling and adoption of new spelling will ultimately help people to pronounce correctly through continuous reminder. In any case English is a funny language, in one Bollywood movie Dharmendra was teasing an over jealous 'jijaji' Om Prakash- 'to', 'tu' hota hain 'go', 'gu' kyon nahin hota. Cheers! Manoj On 4/10/11, Rajen Barua baru...@hotmail.com wrote: Sondon Now that I am thinking, changing the name Orissa (r = ro) to Odissa (d=dore ro) is real dumb if they mean to keep the pronunciation same as Orissa. Now nobody would pronounce it Orissa, and everybody would pronounce it Odisa. ( This also shows how Sanskrit is still controlling the ignorant intellectuals). In Assamese it is what we call, 'Gorom bhator dhwai khwa.' or 'Burir kam nai, xakot bon di base'. Anyhow this is a good answer to the opponents of the spelling Oxom who claim that nobody would pronounce X as Assamese XO. If Oriyans can write D and expect people to pronounce it as R, Assamese also can write X and expect people to pronounce it as XO. Thanks Rajen From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:33:26 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). Not s fast , A ! Did you really think I did not attempt to even think this thru :-)? Different issues here. This is how: ASOM is neither Assam, an ancient name of our region, nor is it Oxom, as the predominantly known sound of the geographical area thus named. ASOM is a misguided ( to put it mildly) and ignorant ( to say it like it is) way to transliterate the Oxom name in Roman script. ASOM does NOT sound anything like Oxom. And the ONLY reason for attemting to re-name Assam to ASOM, is based on the IGNORANT argument that Assam was a colonial term, coined by the British. See the difference? I don't know HOW the Oriyas pronounce the name of their state: as Orissa, or Orisha or Odisha or some other form. But if I am unaware of the peculiarity of this 'd' letter representing an 'rd' sound, then I would pronounce Odisha's 'd' as in Godiva, completely turning the intent behind the change on its head. c-da On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote: Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). It may not make sense to others but it does to us. There are some other Indian words that are spelt with a 'd' but pronounced as 'r'. These words only come to my mind right now...Kadai-chicken and Kodai-kanal. Now I am not sure if I am doing a 'khugi gaali-khuwa' work from you this morning :), C'da, but had to say this as you seem to understand the need for Oxom(?), but did not Odisha. It would be difficult to keep up with all these name changes, Odisha, Chennai, Mumbai, Pune, and hopefully 'Oxom', someday, no? From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:07:17 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa It is a matter for the Odiyas. But somehow I fail to understand how the 'r' replaced with 'd' will feel them any more Odiya than Oriya, considering the fact that few English speakers would know the difference or care. It is, at best, a demonstration of ethnic insecurity. cm On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Bidyananda Barkakoty wrote: Parliament approves new name for Orissa PTI – Thu, Mar 24, 2011 2:36 PM IST New Delhi, March 24 (PTI) Orissa will hereafter be called ''Odisha'' and the Oriya language will be known as ''Odia'' with Parliament giving approval to amendment of the Constitution and also passing the related bill. The Rajya Sabha passed the Orissa (the Alteration of Name) Bill and adopted the Constitution (113th) Amendment Bill after a brief debate with members from all parties hailing the move as historic for people of the state. Supported by all parties, including the Biju Janta Dal, the Constitution Amendment Bill was adopted by all 169 members present and voting. Such a bill requires support of at least two-third of members present and voting. Besides, the majority of the strength of the House should
