Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

2005-08-25 Thread Peter
Hi all,
Thank you for the helps.
I would like to explain more about my scenario maybe it help. I am
doing a Web Services projects . First i expose some methods like
getAllMovieNames using Axis. Now I want to implemement the download
method and upload method to download and upload movies (very big)
between client and server.
I realize that using SOAP is not enough. Is it possible to bind SOAP
with other data transfer protocol like FTP or data space transfer
protocol?Does Axis has someway to solve this problem ?how to solve this
problem? I really have no idea.
Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated.
Best regards
peter

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PMTo: axis-user@ws.apache.orgSubject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
- http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)-- dimsOn 8/24/05, Peter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts. I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
 scenario is I want to upload and download bigmovies between server and client using Web Service. I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
 Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated Thank you in advance.--Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform



Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

2005-08-25 Thread Guy Rixon
Hi,

we have a similar situation in our project (AstroGrid:
http://www.astrogrid.org/). We have a service that gives access to an on-line
data store in which the data-items range from tiny to very large. Rather than
export the large items as attachments, we prefer a two-stage process.

 1. Client calls the W/S to request a transfer with a particular protocol.
W/S returns a URL for this transfer.
 2. Client transfers data to/from the URL.

We're treating the bulk-transfer URL as ephemeral and the W/S as an indirector
for the data-transfer. That lets us manage the data on file-servers
without exposing permanent URLs.

If your data are private, then you need to secure the link to the file server
as well as the link to the W/S. You could do this by including a
password, generated by the W/S, in the bulk-transfer URL; in this case the W/S
has to manage the authorization on the file-server. Alternatively, you could
secure access to both W/S and file-server using a client certificate and
GridFTP for the file-transfer protocol.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Peter wrote:

 Hi all,
 Thank you for the helps.
 I would like to explain more about my scenario maybe it help. I am doing a
 Web Services projects . First i expose some methods like getAllMovieNames
 using Axis. Now I want to implemement the download method and upload method
 to download and upload movies (very big) between client and server.
 I realize that using SOAP is not enough. Is it possible to bind SOAP with
 other data transfer protocol like FTP or data space transfer protocol?Does
 Axis has someway to solve this problem ?how to solve this problem? I really
 have no idea.

 Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated.
 Best regards
 peter


 On 8/25/05, Michael Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I would recommend Bit Torrent http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
 
  Michael Oliver
  CTO
  Alarius Systems LLC
  6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
  Las Vegas, NV 89156
  Phone:(702)643-7425
  Fax:(702)974-0341
  *Note new email changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PM
  To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.
 
  kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
  - http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)
 
  -- dims
 
  On 8/24/05, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello,
   I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
  
   I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
   for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
   scenario is I want to upload and download big movies between server
   and client using Web Service.
  
   I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
   not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
  
   Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
   Thank you in advance.
  
 
 
  --
  Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform
 
 


Guy Rixon   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Institute of Astronomy  Tel: +44-1223-337542
Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HA  Fax: +44-1223-337523


[OT] Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

2005-08-25 Thread Woodchuck
darn, i was hoping someone found a way to lob 4GB globs around  :D

woodchuck


--- Guy Rixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 we have a similar situation in our project (AstroGrid:
 http://www.astrogrid.org/). We have a service that gives access to an
 on-line
 data store in which the data-items range from tiny to very large.
 Rather than
 export the large items as attachments, we prefer a two-stage process.
 
  1. Client calls the W/S to request a transfer with a particular
 protocol.
 W/S returns a URL for this transfer.
  2. Client transfers data to/from the URL.
 
 We're treating the bulk-transfer URL as ephemeral and the W/S as an
 indirector
 for the data-transfer. That lets us manage the data on file-servers
 without exposing permanent URLs.
 
 If your data are private, then you need to secure the link to the
 file server
 as well as the link to the W/S. You could do this by including a
 password, generated by the W/S, in the bulk-transfer URL; in this
 case the W/S
 has to manage the authorization on the file-server. Alternatively,
 you could
 secure access to both W/S and file-server using a client certificate
 and
 GridFTP for the file-transfer protocol.
 
 On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Peter wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  Thank you for the helps.
  I would like to explain more about my scenario maybe it help. I am
 doing a
  Web Services projects . First i expose some methods like
 getAllMovieNames
  using Axis. Now I want to implemement the download method and
 upload method
  to download and upload movies (very big) between client and server.
  I realize that using SOAP is not enough. Is it possible to bind
 SOAP with
  other data transfer protocol like FTP or data space transfer
 protocol?Does
  Axis has someway to solve this problem ?how to solve this problem?
 I really
  have no idea.
 
  Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated.
  Best regards
  peter
 
 
  On 8/25/05, Michael Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I would recommend Bit Torrent http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
  
   Michael Oliver
   CTO
   Alarius Systems LLC
   6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
   Las Vegas, NV 89156
   Phone:(702)643-7425
   Fax:(702)974-0341
   *Note new email changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PM
   To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
   Subject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.
  
   kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other
 protocols
   -
 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)
  
   -- dims
  
   On 8/24/05, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
   
I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find
 information
for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big
 movie. My
scenario is I want to upload and download big movies between
 server
and client using Web Service.
   
I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments
 .I do
not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
   
Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
Thank you in advance.
   
  
  
   --
   Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service
 Platform
  
  
 
 
 Guy Rixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Institute of AstronomyTel: +44-1223-337542
 Madingley Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 0HAFax: +44-1223-337523
 


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Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

2005-08-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
- http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)

-- dims

On 8/24/05, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
 
 I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
 for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
 scenario is I want to upload and download big  movies between server
 and client using Web Service.
 
 I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
 not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
 
 Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
 Thank you in advance.
 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform


RE: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

2005-08-24 Thread Michael Oliver
I would recommend Bit Torrent http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Michael Oliver
CTO
Alarius Systems LLC
6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
Las Vegas, NV 89156
Phone:(702)643-7425
Fax:(702)974-0341
*Note new email changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:05 PM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Axis with more than 4GB data transfer.

kidding me? :) no, soap is not designed for this. (see other protocols
- http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Data+Space+Transfer+Protocol%22)

-- dims

On 8/24/05, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 I am new to Axis.I have a questing for the experts.
 
 I am doing a Web Services projects. I am trying to find information
 for using Axis to transfer more than 4GB data such like big movie. My
 scenario is I want to upload and download big  movies between server
 and client using Web Service.
 
 I am not sure if I can solve this using SOAP with attachments .I do
 not know if SOAP can solve this kind of problem.
 
 Any ideas and any feedback would be much appreciated
 Thank you in advance.
 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service Platform