[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname

[Jason Fraga]

My Pavao family was known as Piva, Paiva, and Pavao here in the US.  

 

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Paiva maybe?

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From: Vivian Christy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:18 PM


Hello All,

 

I have a relative who's name I wrote down as:  Mary Pavo.  I spelled it the
way it sounded but now I am trying to find it in the records and am not sure
if the spelling is correct.  Can someone tell me if this is the correct
spelling for that name?  Thank you and any help is appreciated.  

 

Vivian (Silva) Christy









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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname

[Guida Leicester]

Paiva maybe?

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Vivian Christy  wrote:

From: Vivian Christy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re:  How to spell a portuguese surname
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:18 PM

Hello All,
 
I have a relative who's name I wrote down as:  Mary Pavo.  I spelled it the way 
it sounded but now I am trying to find it in the records and am not sure if the 
spelling is correct.  Can someone tell me if this is the correct spelling for 
that name?  Thank you and any help is appreciated.  
 
Vivian (Silva) Christy


 







  
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[Kenneth Correa]

Greetings:

I Would Like To Be Included In Your
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Best Regards,

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname

[LIONEL J HOLMES]

It's  probably PAVAO.




--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Vivian Christy  wrote:

> From: Vivian Christy 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re:  How to spell a portuguese surname
> To: "Azores Genealogy" 
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:18 PM
> Hello All,
>  
> I have a relative who's name I wrote down as:  Mary
> Pavo.  I spelled it the way it sounded but now I am trying
> to find it in the records and am not sure if the spelling is
> correct.  Can someone tell me if this is the correct
> spelling for that name?  Thank you and any help is
> appreciated.  
>  
> Vivian (Silva) Christy
> 
> 
>   
> 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to spell a portuguese surname

[Vivian Christy]

Hello All,
 
I have a relative who's name I wrote down as:  Mary Pavo.  I spelled it the way 
it sounded but now I am trying to find it in the records and am not sure if the 
spelling is correct.  Can someone tell me if this is the correct spelling for 
that name?  Thank you and any help is appreciated.  
 
Vivian (Silva) Christy


  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Thanks for your help on Azores trip

["E" Sharp]

I want to thank everyone for their input on our trip to Europe,
specifically, the Azores.  Have made all our hotel reservations.
Don't know if I will do any research or not while there but it will be
fun to see where my grandmother's family lived--I can't say came from
as they came from Naples and mainland Portugal although their children
were born in the Azores.  Sometimes I am envious of those whose lines
go back many years in the Azores and mine go back to about 1850.

Find it interesting that to fly from Lisbon/Terceira/Ponta
Delgada/Lisbon the total fare is $915 and to fly from
London/Edinburgh/Dublin/London the total fare is $369!  Have not made
the Azores flight reservations yet but I am guessing they are not
going to come down anytime soon.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "filha d' outra"

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

If you have not solved the problem, FILHA DE OUTRA means that her mother has
exactly the same name, in the case stated: Quitéria was the mother of a
child called Quitéria.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1800's Azores immigration and my Gregario/Gregorio relatives

[eric edgar]

> Kathy,
>

I've sent you some links through Ancestry.coms share links to the draft
cards for Joseph and Manuel  Fisher and for census from 1910 and 1920. A
search of the Mass Archive Vital records
shows a match on a marriage record for 1881.

  Last Name First Name Town Years Volume Page Type Gregorio John P. Boston
1881 327 215 Marriage
  Salvador Mary Boston 1881 327 215 Marriage

Here is the link to find ordering information
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/VitalRecordsSearch.aspx


Eric Edgar

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "filha d' outra"

[Mary Bordi]

On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:16 PM, yolanda wrote:

> i have not heard this expression before, but if coul send me the  
> link to the full document i can take a look .

Here are the links to the two records: (When I originally posted I  
think truncated one.)

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVNGB1825-1839/SJVNGB1825-1839_item1/P166.html

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVNGB1825-1839/SJVNGB1825-1839_item1/P168.html


I am now wondering if these are even the same person! Very  
interesting...

Mary Bordi





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "filha d' outra"

[mnk]

Whenever I have seen this phrase used, it always indicates another of
the same name.
That's what it looks like to me in this case also.
Maria Natalia

On Jan 17, 2:16 pm, yolanda  wrote:
> hello there,
>
> i have not heard this expression before, but if coul send me the link to the
> full document i can take a look .
>
> my best
>
> 2009/1/16 
>
>
>
>
>
> >  We had a friend whose name was Quiteria and she went by Katie here in the
> > USA.  There may not be a translation, but I am going to check with Katie's
> > granddaughter and see if she knows.
>
> > Mary Ann
>
> >  In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:58:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > kmacard...@mac.com writes:
>
> > Hi Mary
>
> > I don't know if this is the definitive answer on Quiteria and what
> > name it is in the U.S. but an ancestor of my husband's from Faial, was
> > named Quiteria Felicia and went by the name of Gertrude here in the
> > U.S. Hope that helps. Maybe there are others too?
>
> > Kathy
>
> > *
> >   Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
> >        http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html
> >   *
>
> > On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Mary Bordi wrote:
>
> > > I've come across a woman who is referred to a "filha d' outra" which
> > > sounds to me like "daughter of other". Anyone know what this might
> > > mean--like maybe her parents are unknown?
>
> > > In an 1839 birth record the baby was baptized at home by "Maria
> > > Quiteria, solteira, filha d' outra". Then a week or so later this same
> > > woman had a baby of her own and she is identified the same way, with
> > > no parents indicated.
>
> > > From my research I am assuming that "Quiteria" is her middle name,
> > > not her last name, because so far I have only seen it used as a first
> > > or middle name.
>
> > > By the way, is there an English equivalent for "Quiteria"? The person
> > > I am asking about is not in my line but I do have at least one
> > > Quiteria who is.
>
> > > Thanks for any info. I feel so lucky to have the Norte Grande records
> > > available online at thehttp://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/registos/
> > > site, but I am spending entirely too much time looking through them!
>
> > > Mary
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "filha d' outra"

[yolanda]

hello there,

i have not heard this expression before, but if coul send me the link to the
full document i can take a look .

my best

2009/1/16 

>  We had a friend whose name was Quiteria and she went by Katie here in the
> USA.  There may not be a translation, but I am going to check with Katie's
> granddaughter and see if she knows.
>
> Mary Ann
>
>  In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:58:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> kmacard...@mac.com writes:
>
>
> Hi Mary
>
> I don't know if this is the definitive answer on Quiteria and what
> name it is in the U.S. but an ancestor of my husband's from Faial, was
> named Quiteria Felicia and went by the name of Gertrude here in the
> U.S. Hope that helps. Maybe there are others too?
>
> Kathy
>
> *
>   Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html
>   *
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Mary Bordi wrote:
>
> >
> > I've come across a woman who is referred to a "filha d' outra" which
> > sounds to me like "daughter of other". Anyone know what this might
> > mean--like maybe her parents are unknown?
> >
> > In an 1839 birth record the baby was baptized at home by "Maria
> > Quiteria, solteira, filha d' outra". Then a week or so later this same
> > woman had a baby of her own and she is identified the same way, with
> > no parents indicated.
> >
> > From my research I am assuming that "Quiteria" is her middle name,
> > not her last name, because so far I have only seen it used as a first
> > or middle name.
> >
> > By the way, is there an English equivalent for "Quiteria"? The person
> > I am asking about is not in my line but I do have at least one
> > Quiteria who is.
> >
> > Thanks for any info. I feel so lucky to have the Norte Grande records
> > available online at the http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/registos/
> > site, but I am spending entirely too much time looking through them!
> >
> > Mary
> >
> > >
>
> >
>


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: da Rosa in San Juan Bautista CA

[Patricia Butcher]

Hi Al,
Thanks for posting Mary Anne's email. I found another cousin!!
Take care...

Cousin Patricia

At 07:20 AM 1/17/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Maryanne
>On this note you have written that I have a Joseph da Rosa born oct 
>23 1877. I have over 6000 names on my data base with none born oct 
>23 1877. I have used the data base from the Azores which you 
>mentioned extensively. I also belong to a online group which deals 
>mainly with the Azores. The group address 
>is  azo...@googlegroups.com. You can 
>ask them to be included and that's all it takes. Send me your phone 
>number so I can talk to you
>
>Al Sequeira
>
>In a message dated 1/13/2009 5:47:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>maryanne_r...@msn.com writes:
>Hello,
>
>Old immigrant communities. San Juan Bautista?
>
>My name is Mary Anne Rose and I have been doing genealogical 
>research on my da Rosa family since perhaps 2003, my cousin David 
>Wilson (b. 1940) got involved when he was in sixth grade and 
>interviewed my grandfather about his family, cousins, etc which is 
>hugely helpful. David's  mother visited the Azores long before we 
>did in 2005, finding our great grandparents marriage certificate in 
>the Archives in Horal, Faial.
>
>But I am more creative at internet research than he. . . so I was 
>able to build upon their research in different ways. And thus I am 
>contacting you. You have a
>
>Joseph da Roza born
>
>23 Oct 1877
>San Juan Bautista, San Benito, CA
>
>Bottom line, our grandfather Anthony Lawrence Rose (christened 
>Hollister CA in April 15, 1883) was of Azorean descent. His 
>godmother was Hyacintha Serpa, according to the priest, which my 
>research leads to connections to your family. i.e. Jacinta "jessy" de Serpa.
>
>My grandfather's sister Minnie married Joseph Elmer Serpa (November 
>1874 - 1938), they had a son Elmer - who was my dad's first cousin 
>and I remember visiting cousin Elmer and his sons in Willow Glen 
>area of san jose, CA. Minnie and Joe Serpa are buried in St. Mary's 
>Cemetery in Gilroy. My great grandmother Rosa Gomes da Conceicao 
>born in Cedros, Faial,  lived with them after her husband died in 
>1913 and she died about 1934. Her brother was Joseph Gomes who 
>married Rosa da Conceicao (Garcia da Rosa) and they lived with their 
>large family near Hollister. You have them listed in the tree notes 
>somewhere as well.
>
>In any case, it was a very small Azorean community in San Juan 
>bautista and Hollister in San Juan Bautista. I have not been able to 
>make a connection with the other da Rosa family from the area, but 
>if they came at the same time as my great grandfather Manuel 
>Francisco da Rosa, I am sure they must be cousins, etc. My aunt told 
>me he left Faial about 1864 on a whaling ship and returned to Faial 
>in 1975 to marry his sweetheart in the village. I believe they came 
>from Cascalho, Cedros in Faial. My research at the Archives in Horta 
>bore out much of the family history.
>
>On line there is much more available, though I believe there to be 
>transcription errors in this: If the link does not work you can 
>connect to the site through azores genweb, which is where I found 
>this. Took my family back 24 generations.
>
>http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=en
>
>So I will not write more until I find that you are still interested 
>in this research, or that this email still is valid. I  live in 
>Manhattan in New York, so I am on the East Coast. My California 
>research has involved my visits "home." And then to Faial.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Mary Anne Rose
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: da Rosa in San Juan Bautista CA

[Bigal429]

Hi Maryanne
On this note you have written that I have a Joseph da Rosa born oct 23  1877. 
I have over 6000 names on my data base with none born oct 23 1877. I have  
used the data base from the Azores which you mentioned extensively. I also  
belong to a online group which deals mainly with the Azores. The group address  
is 
 _azo...@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com) .  You can ask 
them to be included and that's all it takes. Send me your phone  number so I 
can 
talk to you
 
Al Sequeira
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2009 5:47:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
maryanne_r...@msn.com writes:

Hello,
 
Old immigrant communities. San Juan Bautista?  

My name is Mary Anne Rose and I have been doing  genealogical research on my 
da Rosa family since perhaps 2003, my cousin David  Wilson (b. 1940) got 
involved when he was in sixth grade and interviewed  my grandfather about his 
family, cousins, etc which is hugely  helpful. David's  mother visited the 
Azores 
long before we did in  2005, finding our great grandparents marriage 
certificate in the Archives in  Horal, Faial. 
 
But I am more creative at internet research than  he. . . so I was able to 
build upon their research in different ways. And thus  I am contacting you. You 
have a 
 
Joseph da Roza born 
23 Oct  1877 
San Juan  Bautista, San  Benito,  CA   

Bottom line, our grandfather Anthony Lawrence  Rose (christened Hollister CA 
in April 15, 1883) was of Azorean descent. His  godmother was Hyacintha Serpa, 
according to the priest, which my research  leads to connections to your 
family. i.e. Jacinta "jessy" de  Serpa.
 
My grandfather's sister Minnie married Joseph  Elmer Serpa (November 1874 - 
1938), they had a son Elmer - who was my dad's  first cousin and I remember 
visiting cousin Elmer and his sons in  Willow Glen area of san jose, CA. Minnie 
and Joe Serpa are buried in St.  Mary's Cemetery in Gilroy. My great 
grandmother Rosa Gomes da Conceicao born  in Cedros, Faial,  lived with them 
after her 
husband died in 1913  and she died about 1934. Her brother was Joseph Gomes who 
married Rosa da  Conceicao (Garcia da Rosa) and they lived with their large 
family near  Hollister. You have them listed in the tree notes somewhere as 
well.  

In any case, it was a very small Azorean  community in San Juan bautista and 
Hollister in San Juan Bautista. I have not  been able to make a connection 
with the other da Rosa family from the  area, but if they came at the same time 
as my great grandfather Manuel  Francisco da Rosa, I am sure they must be 
cousins, etc. My aunt told me he  left Faial about 1864 on a whaling ship and 
returned to Faial in 1975 to marry  his sweetheart in the village. I believe 
they 
came from Cascalho, Cedros in  Faial. My research at the Archives in Horta bore 
out much of the family  history. 
 
On line there is much more available, though I  believe there to be 
transcription errors in this: If the link does  not work you can connect to the 
site 
through azores genweb, which is  where I found this. Took my family back 24 
generations.
 
_http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=en_ 
(http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=en) 
 
So I will not write more until I find that you  are still interested in this 
research, or that this email still is valid.  I  live in Manhattan in New 
York, so I am on the East Coast. My  California research has involved my visits 
"home." And then to  Faial.
 
Sincerely,
 
Mary Anne  Rose


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