[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
Charlene, I have online access to old newspapers through Temple University's library. If you give me some specifics, I may be able to find the obit for you. Let me know, Dolores Coyle On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Charlene wrote: > > Thanks to all- those are some good ideas. The relative is buried in a > Catholic Cemetery. I checked extensively in the local papers for the > obit, so I think the idea of finding the paper that is local there > might be a help. I appreciate the insight as to how funerals may be > handled when the person dies, but is buried somewhere else. That is > some good information. And the directory of newspapers-Gale > Publication Directory , I did not know about that. Another resource, > thanks. I got a call back from the local Catholic Church and they > confirmed that one of the family had Mass said there, but they do not > have funeral home info. I would like the death certificate from the > county and I may do that, it gives great info. I have just paid for > quite a bit of info for another line recently, so I may wait and do > that if no other lead comes up. This is another situation of a > relative who won't share info, even though I gave them quite a bit. > Well, the suggestions you have given are all very good and I thank > you. I have some things to try and some new angles to consider. > > Much appreciate your help! You guys are a great blessing :) > > Charlene > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
Thanks to all- those are some good ideas. The relative is buried in a Catholic Cemetery. I checked extensively in the local papers for the obit, so I think the idea of finding the paper that is local there might be a help. I appreciate the insight as to how funerals may be handled when the person dies, but is buried somewhere else. That is some good information. And the directory of newspapers-Gale Publication Directory , I did not know about that. Another resource, thanks. I got a call back from the local Catholic Church and they confirmed that one of the family had Mass said there, but they do not have funeral home info. I would like the death certificate from the county and I may do that, it gives great info. I have just paid for quite a bit of info for another line recently, so I may wait and do that if no other lead comes up. This is another situation of a relative who won't share info, even though I gave them quite a bit. Well, the suggestions you have given are all very good and I thank you. I have some things to try and some new angles to consider. Much appreciate your help! You guys are a great blessing :) Charlene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
Our newspaper offers a free obituary that is very complete. It lists all survivors and those who have predeceased and the time of the services. This is handled by the funeral home. I think it depends on the size of the town. In the large city near us, I believe that all obits are paid for. Hopefully, your relative resided in a small town for most of their life, since we still have obits published of people who lived here years ago. Of course, someone has to let the paper know in order for it to be published. Mary Ann In a message dated 1/15/2009 11:20:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, morinmi1...@gmail.com writes: It can be placed in both places (as Cheri mentioned) or not at all. The cost to place an obit can be prohibitive if the person didn't have insurance. Some newspapers (present day) do have a free placement but it's like one sentence. I'm finding many of my relatives families didn't have obits for the deceased. In my most recent experience, my aunt (Homen/Homem) passed away two months ago. She lived in Los Angeles for 45 years but as she got older her association with people got less and less. Since most of her siblings still live in New Bedford and she was born there, I put the obit in that local paper and not in LA. Her wish was to be cremated but she does want her & her twin sisters ashes to be buried with their parents. In this scenario the funeral home would have mailed her ashes to the cemetery of choice by Priority Mail or I can do it myself and make arrangements directly with the cemetery. As Eric mentioned I would request an informational copy of the death record from the county. Best of luck... 1/14/09, Charlene <_researchp...@gmail.com_ (mailto:researchp...@gmail.com) > wrote: I have a relative that died in one county in the 1960's, then was buried in another. Both are in California but about 400 miles apart. I can find no obit in the county in which he died. I called the cemetery where he is buried, and they are not going to give any information. I am trying to find where his children went, if he had any brothers or sisters. Does someone have an obit in the city where they are buried, or is it usually just skipped because he wasn't living there when he died? The cemetery won't look up the records and tell me the funeral home or any other information. It is in the Los Angeles area. Does a family contract with two funeral homes to transfer a body, then bury it, or how does that work? Any ideas how to get more info? I thought if I could get the funeral home on one of his relatives, I could probably get info that would open up the rest. No luck. Charlene **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
It can be placed in both places (as Cheri mentioned) or not at all. The cost to place an obit can be prohibitive if the person didn't have insurance. Some newspapers (present day) do have a free placement but it's like one sentence. I'm finding many of my relatives families didn't have obits for the deceased. In my most recent experience, my aunt (Homen/Homem) passed away two months ago. She lived in Los Angeles for 45 years but as she got older her association with people got less and less. Since most of her siblings still live in New Bedford and she was born there, I put the obit in that local paper and not in LA. Her wish was to be cremated but she does want her & her twin sisters ashes to be buried with their parents. In this scenario the funeral home would have mailed her ashes to the cemetery of choice by Priority Mail or I can do it myself and make arrangements directly with the cemetery. As Eric mentioned I would request an informational copy of the death record from the county. Best of luck... 1/14/09, Charlene wrote: > > I have a relative that died in one county in the 1960's, then was > buried in another. Both are in California but about 400 miles apart. I > can find no obit in the county in which he died. I called the cemetery > where he is buried, and they are not going to give any information. I > am trying to find where his children went, if he had any brothers or > sisters. Does someone have an obit in the city where they are buried, > or is it usually just skipped because he wasn't living there when he > died? > > The cemetery won't look up the records and tell me the funeral home or > any other information. It is in the Los Angeles area. Does a family > contract with two funeral homes to transfer a body, then bury it, or > how does that work? Any ideas how to get more info? I thought if I > could get the funeral home on one of his relatives, I could probably > get info that would open up the rest. No luck. > > Charlene > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
Obituary published where died vs. where buriedit depends. I've seen it both ways. It's up to the family and they may have a rationale for publishing in one place vs. the other, as Steve mentioned. Many times, if a body is to be transported, two funeral homes are involved. This happened to my mom's parents who died in CA but are buried in MO, although they used a funeral home in AR in addition to the one in CA. I believe she put the obit in both the CA and MO papers. See if your local public library has access to the Los Angeles Times (Historical). I think it runs from the 1880s to around the 1970s or so. You can search it for the obit. If it doesn't turn up in the Times, ask the librarian for the Gale Publication Directory and find out the name of the local paper for where he died and see if it is there. Then you'd have to repeat the process for the other location. Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
On Jan 14, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Charlene wrote: > The cemetery won't look up the records and tell me the funeral home or > any other information. Just a thought--about the burial place and funeral home. A few years ago a relative died who had moved to Nevada after living in Calif. for many years. He had a plot in Calif and was transported there by the Nevada funeral home. There was only a graveside service in Calif and so no funeral home was involved. As someone else mentioned, you would probably have the best shot by looking for an obituary in the paper where he resided the longest. Good luck in your search! Mary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
Charlene, I'd get an informational copy of the death certificate from the county. The informant is usually a relative. I'd try to contact that person, or search their death information and look for that Obit. This has worked for me a few times before. Eric Edgar On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Charlene wrote: > > I have a relative that died in one county in the 1960's, then was > buried in another. Both are in California but about 400 miles apart. I > can find no obit in the county in which he died. I called the cemetery > where he is buried, and they are not going to give any information. I > am trying to find where his children went, if he had any brothers or > sisters. Does someone have an obit in the city where they are buried, > or is it usually just skipped because he wasn't living there when he > died? > > The cemetery won't look up the records and tell me the funeral home or > any other information. It is in the Los Angeles area. Does a family > contract with two funeral homes to transfer a body, then bury it, or > how does that work? Any ideas how to get more info? I thought if I > could get the funeral home on one of his relatives, I could probably > get info that would open up the rest. No luck. > > Charlene > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
I would look in the location where he lived the longest. Since the family has to pay for the obit, they may not have put it in the paper where he died, since he may have known less people there. My grandfather lived in the same town for 60 years. We moved him to a nursing home in the state my mother was in two months prior to his death. We only had the obit in the papers in the Boston suburb he was from. My parents lived in NH but they have a plot in MA. When my father died last summer we contacted the funeral home in MA. They then contacted a local NH funeral home to get my father and then transport him to MA. We always use the same funeral home, maybe his family does too! Do you know the one his family would use? Good Luck! Steven --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking Relative
Charlene, I have had relatives who died in one county and are buried in another and the obits appeared in both local papers. LA is a tough place to try and find an obit as I went through this a while back and could not find the one I was looking for. My brother in law's brother just passed away in CT and he is being buried in MA and his obit appeared in the local MA paper. "E" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
