Re: LILIPOH Mag.

[Christy Korrow]

Allan Balliett wrote:

> Christy - Come on!! Such unabashed endorsements (don't worry, I'd
> write much the same!) usually contain a statement of your relation to
> the publication.  Yours is noticeably missing. how about it? Thanks
> -Allan
>
> >BDNOW! readers might like to visit
> >www.lilipoh.com and learn about LILIPOH, a
> >great US based magazine that provides readers with an abundance  of
> >highly practical articles that reflect the anthroposophical approach
> >to health.
>
>

Also let me know of any BD events to be listed in the magazine,
inspiring initiatives or exciting biodynamic news that warrents
attention. Any one with a business that might like to advertise, may
email me.

Christy...
Biodynamic Editor/ LILIPOH

Re: The Wide World and Testing Preps

[SBruno75]

In a message dated 3/23/02 1:00:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Allan and Steve - why not avoid altogether the controversy between 
'tedious'

hand stirring and contentious mechanical stirring by using a flowform

cascade? Tony N-S.

 >>

Flowforms work to some degree but without the intensity and organizational 
forces that the stirring process creates.  With flowforms you never achieve 
the vortexial energy that you get by creating a vortex.  Steiner knew what he 
was talking about when he said to stir in this fashion.  A vortex created by 
stirring from the periphery is a model of the eternally creative intelligence 
of the universe that is God.  With a vortex you can imprint your personal 
intent and substance to the spray and effect the farm in that manner...SStorch

Re: Plant exudates

[Frank Teuton]

Google hits on plant root exudates:

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~tgraham/exud_tbl.htm

http://www.biotech-info.net/fate_effects.html

http://www.ls.huji.ac.il/~nurit/photosyn/Nitrogen/Rhizobium-legumeassociatio
n.htm

- Original Message -
From: "Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:30 PM
Subject: Plant exudates


> Dear List members.
>
> I wonder if anyone of you would have some handy
> reference showing that plants do exudate protein
> as stated in Dr Ingham CD material and many lectures
> that I have seen.
> I have been questioned by a researcher down here and
> standing at Dr Ingham´s side have put my reputation at
> stake since this questioning was done in the middle of
> a lecture I was doing for a group of organic growers.
>
> I thank in advance any help I can get
>
> Regards
>
>
> Jose Luiz
>

Plant exudates

[Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia]

Dear List members.

I wonder if anyone of you would have some handy
reference showing that plants do exudate protein
as stated in Dr Ingham CD material and many lectures
that I have seen.
I have been questioned by a researcher down here and
standing at Dr Ingham´s side have put my reputation at
stake since this questioning was done in the middle of
a lecture I was doing for a group of organic growers.

I thank in advance any help I can get

Regards


Jose Luiz

Re: The Wide World and Testing Preps

[Allan Balliett]

>If I get
>the invitation I will bring the latest prototype to your conference this fall
>and you can see the future of agriculture...SStorch

Steve - dunno if it didn't post, or what, but I invited you, your 
stirring machine(s) and your tea brewer to the conference this year, 
October 4-6.

Do you read me?

-Allan

Re: The Wide World and Testing Preps

[Anthony Nelson-Smith]

Allan and Steve - why not avoid altogether the controversy between 'tedious'
hand stirring and contentious mechanical stirring by using a flowform
cascade? Tony N-S.

Re: Merla and the Weed Board

[Anthony Nelson-Smith]

Merla - Of course, to us the preps are significantly processed/treated;
but, to your legalistic regulators, surely you're just using unprocessed
manure and vegetable wastes on one bit of ground and, later, digging them up
and using them on another bit of ground?  If it would be acceptable first
time round,  it has to be so on the second time round also - otherwise you'd
be breaching the regulations every time you transplanted a shrub!  At least,
that's what you could tell your tormentor. Tony N-S.

Re: The Wide World and Testing Preps

[SBruno75]

In a message dated 3/22/02 11:26:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< hmmm. In the commentaries, Steve, RS is pretty emphatic about not 
using machines to stir. At best, isn't using a stirring like having a 
robot eat your buttery cookie for you?

Just asking, of course. >>

Steiner was not emphatic about anything in the Agriculture lectures.  He was 
simply laying some basic ground rules for a new agriculture.  Individual 
freedom and will forces will bring the individuals experience to success or 
to failure, you choose.  We all use Ahrimanic devices in our daily work.  
What I have done is used the Ahrimanic elementals to help with my work.  I am 
there in the process body mind and spirit.  My energy and intention is there 
in the stirring process.  The machine has given me the freedom to observe the 
true nature of vortexial motion and observe the fluid dynamics and visually 
see how the water developes its memory and when the water is ready to spray.  
I can have 500/501 ready to spray in less than fifteen minutes by the power 
of my intention and will forces.  I have the soil to prove it.  In addition I 
can restore plant and soil health by just applying stirred water.  If I get 
the invitation I will bring the latest prototype to your conference this fall 
and you can see the future of agriculture...SStorch
ps...I stirred and sprayed for 100 acres the other night, can't do that with 
a bucket, but you could with one hundred starving souls...
pps:  I can, I am, I will, I choose, I have, I love, I create, I enjoy... say 
that one hundred times a day and manifest your own reality

Re: Merla and the Weed Board

[Merla]

Thanks, Bonnie.  The state inspector, Christine,  who lives here in
Sandpoint, is a friend of mine.  She called me tonight and I am going to
meet her in town next week with my Pfeiffer Field Spray and
Directions/Label and the Soil and Plant Amendment Statutes and she is going
to give me her take on it.  The wording in the definitions in 22-2203 was
done by a lawyer who covered every contingency!  I hope something positive
comes out of this for someone.  The wording says that "unmanipulated animal
manure" and "vegetable organic waste-derived material" are excluded from
the definition of a plant amendment.  The definition of maniulation is
"actively processed or treated in any manner."  Is putting manure or
flowers or bark in a horn, bladder, mesentery or small intestine and
burying it in the ground processing it or treating it, or is the earth
doing the processing?  I'll see what Christine says next week.

Merla


Bonnie York wrote:

> On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 01:19 PM, Merla wrote:
>
> > I am thinking about just that.  I went over the directions again.  I
> > still have
> > to
> > have a set of compost preps and they can't have been bought or traded
> > for.  It's
> > in the ordinance 22-2203 "To distribute means to import, consign,
> > manufacture,
> > produce, compound, mix or blend soil amendments or plant amendments or
> > to
> > offer for sale, barter or otherwise supply in this state."
>
> Is there any way of getting around the wording? I'm sure you've thought
> of it before, but is there any way around using the word amendments?
> Would just not using the word work?
>
> It just seems strange that someone couldn't just privately apply the
> preps. If it's not under the auspices of the Weed Control Board can they
> still regulate it? It's just manure and flowers and such? What about
> using those words? Could you call it what it is in its raw state?
> Yarrow, chamomile, manure, sand?   Just organic stuff.
>
> Bonnie