Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-18 Thread Maxim Podbereznyy
TI should not qualify own products for medical applications, an end-user
should. For example TI makes chips for ECG, but it does not mean that you
build your own ECG machine and it should be automatically approved by any
medical organization. A manufacturer of this product should pass all tests
and certifications. It cost a lot of $ and takes time
16 Июл 2015 г. 10:16 пользователь 'Eliah Ninyo' via BeagleBoard 
beagleboard@googlegroups.com написал:

 thanks for the answers

 i guess no manifacture admit he can work in medical device, this is why we
 do a verification and validation to every product specificly

 thanks!

 On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 7:44:34 AM UTC+3, Wulf Man wrote:

  last page of the  tech ref manual

 No TI components are authorized for use in FDA Class III (or similar
 life-critical medical equipment)
 unless authorized officers of the parties have executed a special
 agreement specifically governing such use

 CT scanners are a class II device so it seems you are in the clear.

 http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofMedicalProductsandTobacco/CDRH/CDRHTransparency/ucm203018.htm
 BUT run it by a lawyer for your protection
 N
 On 7/15/2015 7:40 PM, Gerald Coley wrote:

 Robert is right.  Most semiconductor companies don't like medical
 products. To much legal risk. Some parts have claimers on them.

  Gerald

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Robert Nelson robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Eliah Ninyo eni...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the answers!
 
  What do you mean by TI devices are not approved for use in medical
  devices?

 It means exactly what it says..  Medical devices have to follow
 rules/regulations in the us and it big $'s money...

 Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-18 Thread William Hermans

 *TI should not qualify own products for medical applications, an end-user
 should. For example TI makes chips for ECG, but it does not mean that you
 build your own ECG machine and it should be automatically approved by any
 medical organization. A manufacturer of this product should pass all tests
 and certifications. It cost a lot of $ and takes time*


+1

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Maxim Podbereznyy lisar...@gmail.com
wrote:

 TI should not qualify own products for medical applications, an end-user
 should. For example TI makes chips for ECG, but it does not mean that you
 build your own ECG machine and it should be automatically approved by any
 medical organization. A manufacturer of this product should pass all tests
 and certifications. It cost a lot of $ and takes time
 16 Июл 2015 г. 10:16 пользователь 'Eliah Ninyo' via BeagleBoard 
 beagleboard@googlegroups.com написал:

 thanks for the answers

 i guess no manifacture admit he can work in medical device, this is why
 we do a verification and validation to every product specificly

 thanks!

 On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 7:44:34 AM UTC+3, Wulf Man wrote:

  last page of the  tech ref manual

 No TI components are authorized for use in FDA Class III (or similar
 life-critical medical equipment)
 unless authorized officers of the parties have executed a special
 agreement specifically governing such use

 CT scanners are a class II device so it seems you are in the clear.

 http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofMedicalProductsandTobacco/CDRH/CDRHTransparency/ucm203018.htm
 BUT run it by a lawyer for your protection
 N
 On 7/15/2015 7:40 PM, Gerald Coley wrote:

 Robert is right.  Most semiconductor companies don't like medical
 products. To much legal risk. Some parts have claimers on them.

  Gerald

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Robert Nelson robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Eliah Ninyo eni...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the answers!
 
  What do you mean by TI devices are not approved for use in medical
  devices?

 It means exactly what it says..  Medical devices have to follow
 rules/regulations in the us and it big $'s money...

 Regards,

 --
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Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-16 Thread 'Eliah Ninyo' via BeagleBoard
thanks for the answers

i guess no manifacture admit he can work in medical device, this is why we 
do a verification and validation to every product specificly

thanks!

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 7:44:34 AM UTC+3, Wulf Man wrote:

  last page of the  tech ref manual

 No TI components are authorized for use in FDA Class III (or similar 
 life-critical medical equipment)
 unless authorized officers of the parties have executed a special 
 agreement specifically governing such use

 CT scanners are a class II device so it seems you are in the clear.

 http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofMedicalProductsandTobacco/CDRH/CDRHTransparency/ucm203018.htm
 BUT run it by a lawyer for your protection
 N
 On 7/15/2015 7:40 PM, Gerald Coley wrote:
  
 Robert is right.  Most semiconductor companies don't like medical 
 products. To much legal risk. Some parts have claimers on them. 

  Gerald
  
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 javascript: wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Eliah Ninyo eni...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:
  Thanks for the answers!
 
  What do you mean by TI devices are not approved for use in medical
  devices?

 It means exactly what it says..  Medical devices have to follow
 rules/regulations in the us and it big $'s money...

 Regards,

 --
 Robert Nelson
 https://rcn-ee.com/
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-15 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Eliah Ninyo eni...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the answers!

 What do you mean by TI devices are not approved for use in medical
 devices?

It means exactly what it says..  Medical devices have to follow
rules/regulations in the us and it big $'s money...

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-15 Thread Gerald Coley
Robert is right.  Most semiconductor companies don't like medical products.
To much legal risk. Some parts have claimers on them.

Gerald

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wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Eliah Ninyo eni...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the answers!
 
  What do you mean by TI devices are not approved for use in medical
  devices?

 It means exactly what it says..  Medical devices have to follow
 rules/regulations in the us and it big $'s money...

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Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-15 Thread Eliah Ninyo
Thanks for the answers!

What do you mean by TI devices are not approved for use in medical
devices?
I'm not talking about PCB X-ray, I'm talking about X-ray for medical
purposes (CT scanner).
On Jul 15, 2015 18:17, Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org wrote:

 TI devices are not approved for use in medical devices. There are XRAY
 machines that are used to XRAY PCBs. I doubt those qualify as medical
 devices..

 Gerald


 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM, William Pretty Security 
 bill.pre...@xplornet.com wrote:

 I think what he means Gerald, is the BBB approved for “medical
 applications” the way some power supplies and other equipment is.





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 *Subject:* Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?



 I have to admit. I have never taken an Xray of a BBB. It should not be an
 issue. However, to be sure, I suggest you take the BOM and contact each
 manufacturer to be sure.



 Gerald





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 hello,

 we think about using BeagleBone card for Xray medical device.

 does anyone have any information about it? is beaglebone board is Xray
 safe?



 thanks in advance,

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Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-15 Thread Gerald Coley
I have to admit. I have never taken an Xray of a BBB. It should not be an
issue. However, to be sure, I suggest you take the BOM and contact each
manufacturer to be sure.

Gerald


On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:54 AM, 'Eliah Ninyo' via BeagleBoard 
beagleboard@googlegroups.com wrote:

 hello,
 we think about using BeagleBone card for Xray medical device.
 does anyone have any information about it? is beaglebone board is Xray
 safe?

 thanks in advance,

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[beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-15 Thread 'Eliah Ninyo' via BeagleBoard
hello,
we think about using BeagleBone card for Xray medical device.
does anyone have any information about it? is beaglebone board is Xray safe?

thanks in advance,

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RE: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-15 Thread William Pretty Security
I think what he means Gerald, is the BBB approved for “medical applications” 
the way some power supplies and other equipment is.

 

 

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Behalf Of Gerald Coley
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:27 AM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

 

I have to admit. I have never taken an Xray of a BBB. It should not be an 
issue. However, to be sure, I suggest you take the BOM and contact each 
manufacturer to be sure.

 

Gerald

 

 

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hello,

we think about using BeagleBone card for Xray medical device.

does anyone have any information about it? is beaglebone board is Xray safe?

 

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Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?

2015-07-15 Thread Gerald Coley
TI devices are not approved for use in medical devices. There are XRAY
machines that are used to XRAY PCBs. I doubt those qualify as medical
devices..

Gerald


On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM, William Pretty Security 
bill.pre...@xplornet.com wrote:

 I think what he means Gerald, is the BBB approved for “medical
 applications” the way some power supplies and other equipment is.





 *From:* beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *Gerald Coley
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:27 AM
 *To:* beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [beagleboard] Xray Safe, is it?



 I have to admit. I have never taken an Xray of a BBB. It should not be an
 issue. However, to be sure, I suggest you take the BOM and contact each
 manufacturer to be sure.



 Gerald





 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:54 AM, 'Eliah Ninyo' via BeagleBoard 
 beagleboard@googlegroups.com wrote:

 hello,

 we think about using BeagleBone card for Xray medical device.

 does anyone have any information about it? is beaglebone board is Xray
 safe?



 thanks in advance,

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