Re: [Blackbelly] Ram Blinders/Shields?
After spending $$THOUSANDS$$ to divide up and make some paddocks, we did not want to take the chance on having fencing torn up so when we rearranged the sheep into their new homes we put sheilds on the mature rams. We thought it was gonna work--every one seemed to be content and happy with their own "ladies". But evidently EVERYONE went into "heat" at the same time Our dividing fences were destroyed!! I mean they would fight and ram until their horns "cut" the wire, until the rams were caught in the fences and could not free themselves, or until they mangled and stretched the wire so badly, they could go thru. ALL of this with the ram sheilds on!! Now, I will say thisother than a slight cut in the leather of one, the shields held up great!! I only wish our new woven wire fencing had fared as well!! SO, now-we use only one herd sire until he is used up---then we get another. It's cheaper that way!! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:48 PM Subject: [Blackbelly] Ram Blinders/Shields? > Hi All, > > I am needing to put two rams together, & was wondering if anyone has used > these before & what you thought of them, good & bad. I've found them > through > Sydel, but I'm not sure what size to get (if I do). They are a yearling > & a > two year old, blackbelly rams. I'm thinking small would be ok? > > Any input will be greatly appreciated! > Thanks! > > Karen > Winsper's Funny Farm > Spokane, WA > > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] breed-back dates
What size is considered "good" freezer size? - Original Message - From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:39 PM Subject: [blackbelly] breed-back dates Not a bad thing if you have a market for > lambs or room to grow them into freezer lamb. I have neither. > > Morale: All experiments have consequences. > > Carol > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Any luck with electric fencing?
We have 5 strands of hot wire. Had 2 escapeers, but we put a stop to that. Someone on this lists said that before they turn the sheep into an electric field they hose 'em down with water. Let me tell youwhen the 'ole gals, which were soaking wet, started their ole trick of heading out the fence---it only took one hit and the escaping was OVER. They never even attempted it again!! Soak 'em with water, when they hit the fence--they'll know it!! Yeah, yeah---it seems kinda cruel. But being chased down and killed by pack dogs or coyates is cruelier! - Original Message - From: "helen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Any luck with electric fencing? > We have electric fencing 5 strands of it. And all very hot. But we > also > have 3 escape artists who wait until between pulses and jump right through > the fence. They get a shock now and then but they don't seem to mind it. > All > 3 going through at the same time seemed to sort of distribute the shock or > something. But, they all stay in the pasture since we had the coyote > problems. I guess something good comes out of bad after all. By the way to > everyone out there ...We have had 6 new babies since our fiasco. > Helen > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses
We had 1 horse in with the sheep and now the horse is gone!! I saw him actually pick a full grown ewe up by the back of the neck and THROW her across the field. He didn't like to share the hay or feed, and was pestered by the lambs. I was terrified that he would stomp the babies on purpose. And, a friend of mine is nursing a 3 month lamb with a broke front leg and gapping neck wound because her horse done the same thing!!! Stephanie - Original Message - From: "Chris & Eileen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses > Does anyone keep other animals, particularly horses, in with their sheep > herds? My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for > companionship for my horse. Any problems with the rams and the other > animals? > Thanks, > Eileen > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] orphaned lambs
When do the stomachs of a lamb begin to process grain? - Original Message - From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] orphaned lambs You might also want to make some small > lamb or kid pellets available to them since they eat early. Don't use > grain > as their rumen can't process it yet! > Rhonda ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Sheep everywhere, but here!
North East--30 miles north of Knoxville - Original Message - From: "William Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep everywhere, but here! > Where in Tennesee is your farm located? > > Thanks, > > Chris B > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Stephanie Jones > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:55 AM > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep everywhere, but here! > > Carr, > How are the prices in TX? You stated that you generally take them to the > auction. Here in Tennessee, we just about have to give them away until > thay > > are about 7 months old. I would have TO PAY the auction barn if I ran > them > thru up here. > > Stephanie > - Original Message - > From: "Carr DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep everywhere, but here! > > >> > . My herd produced 18 >> lambs last month. I will be ready to sell some of them in the next two >> months. > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Sheep everywhere, but here!
Carr, How are the prices in TX? You stated that you generally take them to the auction. Here in Tennessee, we just about have to give them away until thay are about 7 months old. I would have TO PAY the auction barn if I ran them thru up here. Stephanie - Original Message - From: "Carr DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep everywhere, but here! > . My herd produced 18 > lambs last month. I will be ready to sell some of them in the next two > months. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] butchering our Ram
One of our herd sires exhibits the VERY same behavior right before (within 3 or 4 days) his ewes give birth. He even trys to mount them at times. We discussed this with the vet and he said that Jr. (the ram) has the keen ability to be able to detect hormone changes in the ewes. He's got it right when we said "there's no way she's due!!" I'm telling you if he is running around sniffing with that lip curled and we know good-and-well that she's bred..it's baby time!! Stephanie - Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Willhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] butchering our Ram The reason we were watching her so closely last > night was because our meanie ram had singled her out and wouldn't > leave her alone. Kept following her and sniffing her butt then > growling. So we > were trying to figure out what was going on. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] colostrum feeding
What is CD/T - Original Message - From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] colostrum feeding > Are you sure you need to vaccinate with CD/T? > > Carol > > At 02:18 PM 5/15/2006 -0400, you wrote: > >My question (since I have my first bottle baby) is when do you give the > >first CD/T shot to these lambs? > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Showy Crotalaria
> Here in Tennessee we call that stuff "Milkweed". If you break the branches a sappy, white fluid will emerge. It looks like milk and stinks like the dickens!! unfortunatly it is everywhere at our place! The books do claim that it is poisonous. The sheep will pick around on the VERY young leaves at the first of the season--probably because they long for anything green. But mine will NOT eat it once it gets about 5 inches tall. It gets very tall and 1 plant will bush out alot. It provides shade in the hot summer months. BUT, you have got to cut that stuff before the seeds get mature--if you don't it spreads like WILDFIRE. We actually get in there and cut it with a reap-hook, and throw it out of the field. Just my two cents worth. > www.ppws.vt.edu/scott/weed_id/cvtsp.htm > > also: > > www.lsuagcenter.com/en/crops_livestock/livestock/animal_health/horses/Ho rses+Poisoned+by+Showy+Crotalaria.html > > > > if this plant is out there in your pastures, it could > explain some sudden deaths. Please, look for it. No > one wants to lose a baby of ANY age to something that > can be eliminated from the pastures. > > Terry W > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] lambs
Thought I'd "brag" on my girls, too! At YesterYear we have had 26 babies ( including 6 set of twins) in 23 days!! Baby "number 20" was the broke leg ewes little girl! Stephanie - Original Message - From: "Cecil Bearden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] lambs > Great! I had twins born last Friday. Both brown > > Cecil in Okla > - Original Message - > From: "Johnson, Oneta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "BB Sheep" > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:20 AM > Subject: [blackbelly] lambs > > > > > > I do not usually brag but was excited when I got home from work yesterday. > > Had 3 Valentine babies. Twins out of my bb ewe. Both rams. One is bb > > and one is painted desert. Not sure where that came from. One out of my > > cream bb. This is her first and he is tiny. We have decided his name is > > Cupid. The others are probably going to be Casanova and Valentino. > > Oneta > > McLoud, OK > > > > > > ___ > > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] broke leg ewe
Yes, we did split the leg.twice..! We did the split that went from the hip and extended below the hoof approx. 1 inch. She drug that one off in less than 2 days because she scooted around on that side in the shed. So we "dooped her" up again, cut the old one off, and re-splint only the upper part of the hip. She seems to be doing ok for now. I'll keep everyone informed. - Original Message - From: "Stephanie Parrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] broke leg ewe > Thanks for the update, Stephanie. Glad you were able to keep her going > - sounds as if she's doing pretty well. Were you able to splint the > leg? > > SP > > On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Stephanie Jones wrote: > > > A quick update on our "broke leg ewe". Well, she's a mama again. She > > had a healthy ewe lamb on Sat. Feb. 11. She is letting the ewe suck > > and they seem to be doing good. She still doesn't put much weight on > > that back leg, but she doesn't act like it bothers her much. She gets > > up and down to eat, and lets the lamb suck. If you ask me, we made to > > right choice in not putting her down. BUT, who knows what the ewe > > thinks!! > > > > Stephanie > > > > > > ___ > > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly- > > blackbellysheep.info > > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] broke leg ewe
A quick update on our "broke leg ewe". Well, she's a mama again. She had a healthy ewe lamb on Sat. Feb. 11. She is letting the ewe suck and they seem to be doing good. She still doesn't put much weight on that back leg, but she doesn't act like it bothers her much. She gets up and down to eat, and lets the lamb suck. If you ask me, we made to right choice in not putting her down. BUT, who knows what the ewe thinks!! Stephanie ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] HELP --Broke leg!!!
OK Mark, Need some info-- Yes, she seems to want to make it. :) Did you split your ewes hind leg? If so , how? Do you think I can give her anything for pain? I hate to see her hurting. It is a complete fracture of the hind leg above the hop, as you can see the bone gouging the skin from inside. It did not break the skin though. I'm thankful for any thing that you can do to help us out. I do not feel we have a feeding problem as Helmut suggested. I confident that she broke her leg tryiing to outrun a dog. She probably cut-back to quickly and slipped on the wet ground (rain) because of her weight. Stephanie - Original Message - From: "The Wintermutes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] HELP --Broke leg!!! > Hi Stephanie, > > I have had a ewe break a hind leg and lamb successfully. Not only did she > lamb large twins but her leg eventually healed. Now her broken leg sounds > similar but may have been very different from your ewe. I suspect my ewe > broke her leg from jumping off a four foot drop off while heavily pregnant. > > What I did was just made sure she was getting all the food and water she > needed since she could not compete with any of the other ewes. I also kept > an eye out for infection. I never used anti-biotic or Banamine but I > certaintly was expecting to need it! My ewe could hardly move and it was > painful to watch. I kept expecting the worse, but she lambed, raised her > babies and eventually healed. I would have a hard time picking her out of > the flock today. I'm sure she has lambed again since she broke her leg. > > My opinion is if she is trying to live (she does get up now and then & is > eating and drinking - give her a chance). If she lies down (especially on > her side) and just stares she is giving up. At this point consider putting > her down. I have had a C-section done on a ewe successfully. The cost was > more than the cost of buying a new ewe. It also meant treating the incision > for over a month to fight off infection. If the lambs are not totally to > term their survival rate is not going to be good. > > If the ewe is giving up but you are not... Make sure she is laying up > right. Make sure she is eating and drinking. You may have to drench her > with propylene glycol and water to keep her going. Occasionally help her to > her feet and make her walk around (she needs movement). > > I'm praying for you! > > Mark > > > > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] HELP --Broke leg!!!
OK ---I know there are some knowledgeable folk who can help & I need it!! I have a 130 lb ewe heavy with lamb. I'm expecting twins just any day. BUT, yesterday when I got home she was down with a broke leg. It is broke above the hop (knee) . Called 2 vets and they both said to shot her. She is soo close to lambing that I decided to wait and talk to you folks this morning. I did give her some percocet pain pills--good or bad, because I hated to see her suffer. She seems to be able to get up and lay down. And she is eating some.My questions are this: 1--can she lamb with that leg broke? (we are ready to bottle feed) 2--can the leg heal on it's own? (I know animals in the wild do heal, usually ending up with a bum leg---but they are alive!) 3-- Do you folks think it can be set? 4-- Do you all think I should just shot her and relieve her from her suffering :( ? You all are a good bunch of people and I know that somebody out there must have had this problem ALL HELP APPRECIATED!!! Stephanie ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs
I can find no literature that differentiates between hair/wool sheep when it comes to copper ppm. Helmut, I feel you are very educated on sheep and have valued your opinion on many matters. If you have access to info on copper I'd love to read it. It would sure make it easier to feed everyone the same thing and quit trying to make sure that the sheep are seperated out!! I'd love to hear of other folks opinion. I DO know this.a friend of mine bought 6 HEALTHY american bb because they were "cute" and turned them in with her cattle where they had access to a cattle tub. 3 days later they were dead. And no, they were not overly stresses and yes they were eating and drinking. 180 ppm in the cattle tub. Just my observation Carol, surely you know something on this matter ;) Stephanie - Original Message - From: "hlang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs > > Because Hair sheep take same copper concentration as beef. > > They are different than wool sheep, need a different management.We run them > as beef in same management. > > With best regards Helmut > - Original Message - > From: "Julian Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:36 AM > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs > > > > At 09:55 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote: > >>It was my understanding that copper in excess of 18ppm was toxic, and > >>often fatal to sheep. Am I mistaken in this? If so, what is the safe > >>dosage? > > > > No, you're not mistaken... Helmut, why do you supplement copper? Did > > you maybe mean selenium? I know selenium definitely has an effect on > > fertility. > > > > Julian > > > > ___ > > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.24/244 - Release Date: > > 30/01/2006 > > > > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs
It was my understanding that copper in excess of 18ppm was toxic, and often fatal to sheep. Am I mistaken in this? If so, what is the safe dosage? - Original Message - From: "hlang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs > In our management, > > > Ewes have to be feed before breeding with high copper /zinc/salt mix > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
Onalee, I have gave her probios, but ( on the pretense of sounding completely stupid) how do you tell if she lost her cud, other than just watching to see if she chews? Also, does antibiotics "kill" the ruman, as I've always thought, and read? Is one antibiotic worse than others? stephanie > > Also, have you given her any probios - has she lost her cud? > > Onalee > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Stephanie Jones > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:29 AM > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > > Good afternoon all: > I have a 2 year old ewe that is ill. She has no diarrhea. She is > picking at the field and hay alittle. She is eating some grain. She > walks with the herd, but, she is weak and wobbly. I think(?) it is > something to do with her belly. Maybe a bacterial infection. But i > have given her 4cc LA 200 for 5 days in a row. She does not seem to be > doing much (if any) better. I'm also giving her 2 iron boluses, and 2 > Vit. E pills a day. If she doesn't get better, I know the outcome---we > buried one 8 days ago that had the same symptoms. Any and all help > appreciate! > > Stephanie > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in > fo > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
Susan, I am giving her soda water. No, she is not pregnant, so that is not the problem. Thanks to all who have gave me some great ideas. - Original Message - From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > I sure am sorry about your ewes problems. Not that I suggest this is her > problem, but might it be possible she has gas/colic? I give my sheep free > choice soda. They seem to know when they have stomach problems. Just a > thought. Susan > > > > > > > > > >From: "Stephanie Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >To: > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > >Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:41:46 -0500 > > > >Rhonda, > >It is NOT too late. As, she is still alive and seems to be somewhat > >better. (tongue in cheek). After 5 days of LA200, I waited 2 days and > >have changed to Penicillian (3cc). I generally do not like to give Pen G > >to my sheep as it kills the ruman, But I gotta do something. She is > >eating and picking. But you can 'just tell' that she don't feel good. > >Another thing for thought She stands and stretches her hind feet out > >behind her, both feet on the ground with a long lunge forward. She'll > >stand that way for up to 1 minute. It is almost like she needs a good > >long stretch. Again leading me to think her belly hurts her. I'll > >certainly try the vinegar tonight!! Any other thoughts is appreciated! > > > >Stephanie > >- Original Message - > >From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:37 PM > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > > > > > > > This may be late but not too late! > > > Try the cider vinegar cure! Dilute cider vinegar in half with water > >and > > > give 20cc / 100lbs. > > > It should set the stomach back to normal. And has been known to > >create > > > miracles! > > > Rhonda > > > > > >___ > >This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > >Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshe ep.info > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
Rhonda, It is NOT too late. As, she is still alive and seems to be somewhat better. (tongue in cheek). After 5 days of LA200, I waited 2 days and have changed to Penicillian (3cc). I generally do not like to give Pen G to my sheep as it kills the ruman, But I gotta do something. She is eating and picking. But you can 'just tell' that she don't feel good. Another thing for thought She stands and stretches her hind feet out behind her, both feet on the ground with a long lunge forward. She'll stand that way for up to 1 minute. It is almost like she needs a good long stretch. Again leading me to think her belly hurts her. I'll certainly try the vinegar tonight!! Any other thoughts is appreciated! Stephanie - Original Message - From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > This may be late but not too late! > Try the cider vinegar cure! Dilute cider vinegar in half with water and > give 20cc / 100lbs. > It should set the stomach back to normal. And has been known to create > miracles! > Rhonda ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
I've called the only vet in this area that will "fool with" sheep. He's the one who told me to do the LA200, iron and vit E. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but last night she seemed to be "feeling" some better (knock on wood). She was walking around picking and when I went to drench her, she was a little harder to catch. She seemed to have more energy and was carrying her ears up instead of them drooping down, (which in my limited experience is a 'for sure' sign that one of them is sick). My odds for her at this point is 50/50. As some one said on this list before " If they have food going in and poop coming out you still have hope." Thanks to all who gave input. Ohh--Cecil, what is soft feet a symptom of, what is Boitin, and how does it help? I've always regarded your information as valuable! Stephanie - Original Message - From: "Stephanie Parrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > Call the vet. > > At the very least, they can do a necropsy on her if she dies so you > will know what's going on. Especially since it appears to be a > possible flock problem. You could lose more than these two. > > Stephanie > > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] tummy ache?
Good afternoon all: I have a 2 year old ewe that is ill. She has no diarrhea. She is picking at the field and hay alittle. She is eating some grain. She walks with the herd, but, she is weak and wobbly. I think(?) it is something to do with her belly. Maybe a bacterial infection. But i have given her 4cc LA 200 for 5 days in a row. She does not seem to be doing much (if any) better. I'm also giving her 2 iron boluses, and 2 Vit. E pills a day. If she doesn't get better, I know the outcome---we buried one 8 days ago that had the same symptoms. Any and all help appreciate! Stephanie ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] Basic H question
I've recently wormed with Basic H as instructed on this wonderful site!! My questions are this 1..How long after the water is completely comsumed do you folks check a fecal for eggs? 2...If eggs are not present when checked, do you wait until the sheep "look" wormy (or a postive fecal shows up) before you Basic H 'em again or do you give maintainence doses on a regular basis? 3.. If eggs ARE present, when would you suggest another water treatment? Just a few questions I have...? I value all of your opinions. I feel that each of you are a wealth of knowledge!!! Thanks, Stephanie ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Help...weak lamb
Britt, I wish I could be of some help to you, I feel for you! But, I am waiting to see what this group of smart folks say, as I seem to lose many lambs between the ages of 3-6 months. We've researched all of the possible problems that we are aware of, to no luck. For lack of any other answer, we think we have some kind of a deficiency in our ground, or that we need to be immunizing against some unknown. Therefore, only the strongest of the lambs survive. We have out mineral tubs, hay, pasture, and grain them daily. Yet, we still loose some for no apparent reason. They appear healthy one day, found dead in the lot the next day. I hope I'm not discouraging you, I don't mean too. I'm just hoping that we both may learn something! :) Good luck!! ;) Stephanie - Original Message - From: "Britt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: [blackbelly] Help...weak lamb > Not sure what happened but my 6 month old ram lamb has just all of the > sudden become very weak. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Basic H----SOLD!
Susan, Thanks for the infoI'm sold! I'm gonna order Basic H within the hour. If it helps with the worm problems, and kills box elder bugs, maybe it will kill the flys that are all over my house now, as well. Hoping that Basic H will help in our worming rotation!! Thanks for everything! You folks out there are a wealth of knowledge and I've learned more from you guys (and gals) about my sheep than I have in all the books that I own!! Have a good weekend! - Original Message - From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] (no subject) > Stephanie, I also have 60 ewes. I put the 1/2 cup per 50 gallons in two > seperate 50 gallon tubs for them. Unless the water gets really nasty I do > not change the water, just keep adding water to the tub so all the Basic H > is consumed. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] (no subject)
Susan, How many sheep will this 50 gallon treat? If 10 sheep are drinking the 50 gallon they will naturally comsume more (of the basic H) than if they were sharing the 50 gallon with 25 of their friends! What I'm asking is this We have 60 ewes, so how much Basic H would you recommend for me to use if I wanted to treat them once a month as you do? Thanks Stephanie Original Message - > From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] (no subject) > > > > Yes, Basic H the all purpose cleaner. I use 1/2 cup per 50 gallons of > > water > > for my sheep. I use it once a month. Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "Stephanie Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >>To: > >>Subject: [blackbelly] (no subject) > >>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:05:52 -0400 > >> > >>Barb, > >>I noted, off and on, for several months that folks are talking about > >>Basic Has a wormer and now as an insect control. My question is > >>this-? > >>Are you talking about the Basic H All Purpose Cleaner? If so, how do > >>you use it as a wormer? > >> > >> > >>___ > >>This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > >>Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >>http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysh eep.info > > > > _ > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > > ___ > > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] (no subject)
Barb, I noted, off and on, for several months that folks are talking about Basic Has a wormer and now as an insect control. My question is this-? Are you talking about the Basic H All Purpose Cleaner? If so, how do you use it as a wormer? ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] anemia
I have 3 ewes who constantly battle anemia. Does any one have any ideas on how to kick this? They have minerals free-chioce, pasture and hay, along with corn ground with soybeans daily. We worm regularly and don't feel this is the problem. These girls are thin and slow. Any help is appreciated. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
