Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
> blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the > subject > or body of a blank message to: > blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com > Use the following address in order to contact the management team > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3802 (20090126) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
actually, there's a bible like that, go to www.lbea.org and enter on the bible courior link to learn more. hth. On Jan 26, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Mark wrote: Hi Lino, Thank you for the information. It is sad when a good product is replaced with a lesser one. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph - Original Message - From: "Lino Morales" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Hi At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find more information on this? Thank you. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 . http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3799 (20090125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@
[Blind-Computing] setting internet explorer to default settings
Hi, everyone. I wanted to set internet explorer to the default settings but don't quite know how to do it. I'm using internet explorer 6. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Rosemarie Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] Confused about XM problem, would like to help
Hi. Regarding the XM site problem, I am confused. It works better than ever for me. There are some links that say get flash, and I think that maybe these arre inadbertently being clicked on. I am having no problems whatsoever. I don' Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] Ie 8 RC
Well folks IE 8 Release candidate came out today. I've been using IE 8 Beta 2 for about 2 weeks now. So if you want it to take for a shpin, go to the IE 8 page to download it. Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail
Only version 8.5, 9.1 isn't accessible yet. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lino Morales Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:34 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Howdy all, Does anyone know if Windows Live Mail works now with JFW 10? Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-fam ily to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] Accessible Adobe Reader 9 download
Hi All, I have Adobe Reader 8 on my XP Home with SP3 machine and have decided that the time has come to upgrade to version 9. Is the link for "Accessible Adobe Reader 9 download" at http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/reader/ the accessible one without the other utilities/programs included? I saw an old post indicating that it was on the jaws-users site, but I didn't see it there or on the home page here. I checked for updates with Adobe Reader and 8.1 was listed and I figured that it would be easier to just uninstall 8 and install 9. Thank you, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
e from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3801 (20090126) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Interesting I also have the paid version of AVG 8 but System Access does not appear to be able to read the buttons on the Firewall alert message. Jaws has no problem reading these messages. However, given that system Access appears to be able to read some web pages that Jaws cannot cope with the answer appears to be have a range of screen reader tools available to cope with whatever problem gets thrown at you. Ironically Jaws has just crashed on my system as I am typing this. I would normally switch to NVDA to finish what I am doing and restart my PC. However there is a problem with NVDA using Microsoft Outlook . Rather than losing the email I remembered that my old copy of ZoomText had a screen reader so I am using this to finish off my email! I have ended up using 3 screen readers in less than an hour. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 21:10 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON David, I have the paid version of AVG, and it will read the message so you can allow it through the Fire Wall. Hope this helps someone. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON The procedure from what I remember is as follows. Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box. The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access. The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r. This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of system Access on your PC. You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory. If you register System Access will email you a free login and pin. One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07 To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I > signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the > screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can > use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your > account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. > Rosemarie > - Original Message - > From: "JOHN JUSTICE" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, > COMPARISON > > >>I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down >>at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes >>or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a >>screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can >>some of these other screen readers do that? >> I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think >>it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. >> >> John >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria
[Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail
Howdy all, Does anyone know if Windows Live Mail works now with JFW 10? Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3801 (20090126) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
Does any one of you guys have the Sola bible if not then how can you give a comment on it? I have one & it works good. What do you think is wrong with it? Shop online and support the NFB of RI at no additional cost to you. http://www.givebackamerica.com/charity.php?b=169 Skype - john.carvalho82 Email - n1...@verizon.net PEACE J C - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Hi Lino, Thank you for the information. It is sad when a good product is replaced with a lesser one. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph - Original Message - From: "Lino Morales" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Hi At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find more information on this? Thank you. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 . http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3799 (20090125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word hel
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
I have it,& you are incorrect it is very nice to use. I don't have any problems with it. Shop online and support the NFB of RI at no additional cost to you. http://www.givebackamerica.com/charity.php?b=169 Skype - john.carvalho82 Email - n1...@verizon.net PEACE J C - Original Message - From: "Lino Morales" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Hi At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find more information on this? Thank you. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 . http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3799 (20090125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
From what I was told they don't make the Road Runner any more. I had the Road Runner too. Now I have the Sola bible. The Sola bible can be bought from blind mice. I think it is a bit better there is a speaker in it. Shop online and support the NFB of RI at no additional cost to you. http://www.givebackamerica.com/charity.php?b=169 Skype - john.carvalho82 Email - n1...@verizon.net PEACE J C - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Hi At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find more information on this? Thank you. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
Hi Lino, Thank you for the information. It is sad when a good product is replaced with a lesser one. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph - Original Message - From: "Lino Morales" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Hi At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find more information on this? Thank you. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 . http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3799 (20090125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible Hi At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find more information on this? Thank you. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3799 (20090125) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
David, I have the paid version of AVG, and it will read the message so you can allow it through the Fire Wall. Hope this helps someone. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON The procedure from what I remember is as follows. Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box. The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access. The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r. This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of system Access on your PC. You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory. If you register System Access will email you a free login and pin. One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07 To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I > signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the > screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can > use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your > account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. > Rosemarie > - Original Message - > From: "JOHN JUSTICE" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, > COMPARISON > > >>I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down >>at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes >>or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a >>screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can >>some of these other screen readers do that? >> I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think >>it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. >> >> John >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >> COMPARISON >> >> >>> Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons >>> website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error >>> message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. >>> I like that you can use it on any computer. >>> Rosemarie >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "JOHN JUSTICE" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >>> COMPARISON >>> >>> No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If
[Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible
Hi At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find more information on this? Thank you. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA, amazing!,
Hi, John. I used to have NVDA before my computer crashed in October. It did pretty good on some web sites. I heard the snapshot version of NVDA is really good. Is that the one you're using? Just wondering. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: "BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST" Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA, amazing!, Hi group. Some of our International members have recommended NVDA as a possible alternative to Jaws when viewing certain web sites. It's built with Open Source code and is much more flexible in some cases. It can't touch Jaws for normal use but I'm already impressed by what it can do. I'm going to go to one of the most impossible sites I know which is www.xmradio.com and see what it does. If anyone has any suggestions about using this free screen reader, I'd appreciate some help either on or off of the list. Thanks to those who recommended it as a possible alternative when Jaws gets picky. LOL! John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary "Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me." PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?
you mean it did it without you assisting it? Were you doing some sort of pc maintenance at the time? That's scarey... Don't you use Norton? Maybe it did it during a scan? - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? Hi Actually, that was pretty funny about leaving the window open. I am not sure how it happened but at about 2:30 this morning my computer decided to delete the windows mail folders and send them to the recycle bin. So, I had to restore them from there. Isn't that a fun way to start the day? Smile. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 10.0°F Wind:SSE-150° at 5mph - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dunbar" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? did you leave a window open by any chance? I'll probably get kicked off for this reply but I couldn't resist. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? Hi This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where did they go? Also, how do I get them back? Thank you for your help. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Clear, 8.1°F Wind:Calm Recursion: see Recursion. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?
Ah yes--what a fun way to start the day. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? Hi Actually, that was pretty funny about leaving the window open. I am not sure how it happened but at about 2:30 this morning my computer decided to delete the windows mail folders and send them to the recycle bin. So, I had to restore them from there. Isn't that a fun way to start the day? Smile. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 10.0°F Wind:SSE-150° at 5mph - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dunbar" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? did you leave a window open by any chance? I'll probably get kicked off for this reply but I couldn't resist. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? Hi This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where did they go? Also, how do I get them back? Thank you for your help. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Clear, 8.1°F Wind:Calm Recursion: see Recursion. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1916 - Release Date: 1/26/2009 7:08 AM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?
Hi Actually, that was pretty funny about leaving the window open. I am not sure how it happened but at about 2:30 this morning my computer decided to delete the windows mail folders and send them to the recycle bin. So, I had to restore them from there. Isn't that a fun way to start the day? Smile. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 10.0°F Wind:SSE-150° at 5mph - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dunbar" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? did you leave a window open by any chance? I'll probably get kicked off for this reply but I couldn't resist. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? Hi This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where did they go? Also, how do I get them back? Thank you for your help. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Clear, 8.1°F Wind:Calm Recursion: see Recursion. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Seems to be ok here, but is very slow at downloading. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, Deb. System access to go wouldn't start for me either. I wanted to go on it so I could re-register but I couldn't even get in. I contacted Serotek by email and they said to set internet explorer to the default settings. I tried doing that and I still got the same message that system access wouldn't be able to start. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: "'Dan Mccurley'" ; Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Martina. I tried that site and it didn't work. I got a message that said "system access is unable to start". Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Martina Letochová" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi Rosemarie, the correct site to access System Access To Go is: http://www.satogo.com Try it and see if it will work. Martina Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1916 - Release Date: 1/26/2009 7:08 AM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
The difference is that each has a different focus. The Olympus, from all that I've heard, is meant to be a middle-of-the-road recorder that can do stereo and so on. It has some playback capabilities, but nothing special, and was not specifically designed for the blind. The stream is a bottom-end recorder, sicne its role as a recording device is tertiary in importance. Its primary purpose is that of a book reader, its secondary purpose that of a music player. It is also fully accessible, being designed from the bottom up to be for the blind. Bruce On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:25:40 -0500, "Lisa" said: > Hello all, > What is the difference between the Olympus digital recorder, and the > Victer > reader stream? Just curious. > Take care, > Lisa > - Original Message - > From: "Mike & Barbara" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question > > > Hi All, > > Amazon has about the best prices for new Olympus Digital Recorders. Take > care. > > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question > > > Hi > I checked them out on E-Bay and they ran from $55 to $250. > > God bless, > Mark > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Amaro" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question > > > What is the cost? Where Can I get these models? Thanks > Michael > - Original Message - > From: "Annette Carr" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question > > > > I've been really happy with the Olympus DS-30, DS-40, and DS-50 digital > > recorders, as these have voice output for some of the features. You can > > connect them to the computer and transfer files back and forth between the > > computer and digital recorder via MyComputer or Window Explorer, so JAWS > > works well with this. I've not tried to use the software that comes with > > these devices, so I do not know if JAWS works with it. > > > > Some of the lower end Olympus digital recorders are great for just > > recording > > multiple notes, but they do not interface with the computer, thus not JAWS > > compatible. > > > > . These are in no way in the same category as the Victor Stream, so I'm > > not sure if I have provided you with the info you are wanting. > > > > Annette > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com > > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro > > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:20 PM > > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > Subject: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question > > > > Hello listers, > > I would like to know witch is the most accessible digital recorder? For > > example one that I can connect to my computer via USB. Also easy to use. > > Jaws compatible and cost affordible. I know about the victor stream. > > Thanks > > Michael Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > > http://www.jaws-users.com > > Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > > http://www.blind-computing.com > > Address for the list archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ > > To post to this group, send email to > > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > > blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com > > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > > or body of a blank message to: > > blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com > > Use the following address in order to contact the management team > > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > > following > > address: > > jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com > > > > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > > http://www.jaws-users.com > > Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > > http://www.blind-computing.com > > Address for the list archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ > > To post to this group, send email to > > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > > blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com > > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > > or body of a blank message to: > > blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com > > Use the following address in order to contact the management team > > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > > following address: > > jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ > To post to this group, se
Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
Hello all, What is the difference between the Olympus digital recorder, and the Victer reader stream? Just curious. Take care, Lisa - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question Hi All, Amazon has about the best prices for new Olympus Digital Recorders. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question Hi I checked them out on E-Bay and they ran from $55 to $250. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: "Michael Amaro" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question What is the cost? Where Can I get these models? Thanks Michael - Original Message - From: "Annette Carr" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question I've been really happy with the Olympus DS-30, DS-40, and DS-50 digital recorders, as these have voice output for some of the features. You can connect them to the computer and transfer files back and forth between the computer and digital recorder via MyComputer or Window Explorer, so JAWS works well with this. I've not tried to use the software that comes with these devices, so I do not know if JAWS works with it. Some of the lower end Olympus digital recorders are great for just recording multiple notes, but they do not interface with the computer, thus not JAWS compatible. . These are in no way in the same category as the Victor Stream, so I'm not sure if I have provided you with the info you are wanting. Annette -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:20 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question Hello listers, I would like to know witch is the most accessible digital recorder? For example one that I can connect to my computer via USB. Also easy to use. Jaws compatible and cost affordible. I know about the victor stream. Thanks Michael Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, Light Snow; Mist 21°F Wind:W-270° Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-u
Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
Ds-75, the latest Olympus DS model is also accessible. It's like 199 pounds (300 dollars). --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: "Lino Morales" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question Well when someone gives me a bail out plan, I'll purchase one LOL. I'd really like to have one someday to record stuff. Your bro in Christ, Lino Morales and Louie Lab Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question Hi All, Amazon has about the best prices for new Olympus Digital Recorders. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question Hi I checked them out on E-Bay and they ran from $55 to $250. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: "Michael Amaro" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question What is the cost? Where Can I get these models? Thanks Michael - Original Message - From: "Annette Carr" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question I've been really happy with the Olympus DS-30, DS-40, and DS-50 digital recorders, as these have voice output for some of the features. You can connect them to the computer and transfer files back and forth between the computer and digital recorder via MyComputer or Window Explorer, so JAWS works well with this. I've not tried to use the software that comes with these devices, so I do not know if JAWS works with it. Some of the lower end Olympus digital recorders are great for just recording multiple notes, but they do not interface with the computer, thus not JAWS compatible. . These are in no way in the same category as the Victor Stream, so I'm not sure if I have provided you with the info you are wanting. Annette -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:20 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question Hello listers, I would like to know witch is the most accessible digital recorder? For example one that I can connect to my computer via USB. Also easy to use. Jaws compatible and cost affordible. I know about the victor stream. Thanks Michael Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in o
Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?
did you leave a window open by any chance? I'll probably get kicked off for this reply but I couldn't resist. - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go? Hi This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where did they go? Also, how do I get them back? Thank you for your help. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Clear, 8.1°F Wind:Calm Recursion: see Recursion. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi Rosemarie, the correct site to access System Access To Go is: http://www.satogo.com Try it and see if it will work. Martina Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Scanners & Stand alone Reading Machines
Hi, Pete. I just forwarded your message to another computer list I'm on. Maybe someone on that list might have some answers for you too. Hope this helps. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: " Pedro Romero" To: "Blind Computing list" Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Scanners & Stand alone Reading Machines Hello all. Does anyone know if there is a site which discusses various advantages and costs of scanning software and stand alone reading machines for the blind. In other words, is there a site which models itself like Consumer Reports where one can get an unbiased opinion on these items? Any help would be appreciated. Pete Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: 1/24/2009 8:40 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Dan. I'm having the same problem with system access to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Dan Mccurley" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON When we try that site, it says welcome to system access, press enter to begin. When we press enter it just repeats the welcome phrase. How do you gain access to the site in order to set up an account and what is the price of this program? beareau...@bellsouth.net Thanks from Dan and Julie - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks John, just did that. Put the website on my favorites. Deb -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose "Full Channel Line Up" to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary "Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me." PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Chrissie. I'm also having a problem with system access to go. I can't even get in to it let alone try to sign up for a new free account. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Chrissy" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON When I go to that site, after klick to begin, it automatically gave something to download. some other user here said that there is no need to download and to just sign up. I don't hear anything on that site where to do so.What am I doing wrong? regards chrissy Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1916 - Release Date: 1/26/2009 7:08 AM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Deb. System access to go wouldn't start for me either. I wanted to go on it so I could re-register but I couldn't even get in. I contacted Serotek by email and they said to set internet explorer to the default settings. I tried doing that and I still got the same message that system access wouldn't be able to start. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: "'Dan Mccurley'" ; Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose "Full Channel Line Up" to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links a
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, David. I tried the procedure and got a message that said "system access was unable to start". I even contacted Serotek by email but how do you set internet explorer to the default settings? I'm running windows XP home eddition with service pack 2 and internet explorer 6. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Will await your reply. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON The procedure from what I remember is as follows. Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box. The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access. The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r. This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of system Access on your PC. You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory. If you register System Access will email you a free login and pin. One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07 To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring u
[Blind-Computing] Email Problem
My ISP is our local telephone company. I am finding that from time to time there are 3 or 4 of the national ISP's that will block PRTC (my local provider). For some reason they recognize it as SPAM. This causes a problem for the people who are with the ISP's who are doing this. I send out a couple of daily emails, and when this occurs, they are not able to receive them. Someone told me that there might be some type of program that I could run in order to prevent this from happening. If anyone knows what I am talking about, please let me know. Any advice on this subject will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Donnie Please join us on Skype each morning at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?
Hi This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where did they go? Also, how do I get them back? Thank you for your help. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Clear, 8.1°F Wind:Calm Recursion: see Recursion. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! http://www.homebusinessxpert.net/ www.donorschoose.org Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] I know why I can accessXm site
Hi: When my husband reinstalled XP a couple weeks ago we failed to make sure I had Adobe flash player. That's why those stupid flash messages weren't opening for me and I could actually navigate the site. I can't play most videos on Youtube or just about anywhere for that matter. I do wish I had 2 computers. At any rate, if anybody wants content off of the site such as the channel lineup emailed to them privately I would be more than happy to do that for you. Just let me know. You would think it wouldn't be that hard to have a link to a flash free site as Sirius did years ago. You could have it either way. take care. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
The procedure from what I remember is as follows. Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box. The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access. The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r. This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of system Access on your PC. You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory. If you register System Access will email you a free login and pin. One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07 To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I > signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen > reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on > any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number > (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. > Rosemarie > - Original Message - > From: "JOHN JUSTICE" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > > >>I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a >> computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a >> thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader >> and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other >> screen readers do that? >> I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's >> amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. >> >> John >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >> COMPARISON >> >> >>> Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons >>> website >>> and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when >>> I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you >>> can use it on any computer. >>> Rosemarie >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "JOHN JUSTICE" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >>> COMPARISON >>> >>> No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - Fr
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I > signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen > reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on > any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number > (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. > Rosemarie > - Original Message - > From: "JOHN JUSTICE" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > > >>I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a >> computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a >> thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader >> and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other >> screen readers do that? >> I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's >> amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. >> >> John >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >> COMPARISON >> >> >>> Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons >>> website >>> and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when >>> I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you >>> can use it on any computer. >>> Rosemarie >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "JOHN JUSTICE" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >>> COMPARISON >>> >>> No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. > > Debbie > > -Original Message- > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN > JUSTICE > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM > To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST > Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > > I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both > screen > readers. > I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose > "Full > Channel Line Up" to experience the same situation. > > With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I > mentioned > in > an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that > there > are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed > up > by > these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them > back > and I tried everything. >
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
When I go to that site, after klick to begin, it automatically gave something to download. some other user here said that there is no need to download and to just sign up. I don't hear anything on that site where to do so.What am I doing wrong? regards chrissy Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
If you want to run System Access To Go (http://satogo.com) try turning off any screen readers that you have running and then access that site. Frank Ventura, MCP -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I > signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen > reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on > any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number > (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. > Rosemarie > - Original Message - > From: "JOHN JUSTICE" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > > >>I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a >> computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a >> thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader >> and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other >> screen readers do that? >> I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's >> amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. >> >> John >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >> COMPARISON >> >> >>> Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons >>> website >>> and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when >>> I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you >>> can use it on any computer. >>> Rosemarie >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "JOHN JUSTICE" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, >>> COMPARISON >>> >>> No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. > > Debbie > > -Original Message- > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN > JUSTICE > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM > To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST > Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON > > I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both > screen > readers. > I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose > "Full > Channel Line Up" to experience the same situation. > > With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I > mentioned > in > an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that > there > are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed > up > by > these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them > back > and I tried everything. > > Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it > worked! > For
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "JOHN JUSTICE" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose "Full Channel Line Up" to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary "Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me." PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
When we try that site, it says welcome to system access, press enter to begin. When we press enter it just repeats the welcome phrase. How do you gain access to the site in order to set up an account and what is the price of this program? beareau...@bellsouth.net Thanks from Dan and Julie - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks John, just did that. Put the website on my favorites. Deb -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: "Deb Caldbeck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose "Full Channel Line Up" to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary "Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me." PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws
[Blind-Computing] Question about JLC's Internet TV
Hi all. I have a question about the JLC's Internet TV program. can I decrease the volume of the audio? I want to listen a channel, but I wan to do it with a slow volume. how can I do it? Thanks, Andres -- Andysoft Progect. Web: http://www.andysoft.es.tl Messenger: popoch...@hotmail.com Skype: popocho5 Blog: http://www.andy-soft.blogspot.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
