[BlindHandyMan] new blind handyman chat room

2010-01-13 Thread David Ferrin
We've just created a chat room on the VIP Conduit site called Blind Handyman 
chat thanks to the lobbying efforts of our own Ray Boyce who approached a 
couple of us on the board asking for it. It is in the open section available to 
guest and supporting members alike. He has been after such a room for a while 
now and since he is retired he now has the time to chat about what he has been 
doing. We hope that many of you take advantage of Ray's hard work and come on 
over to discuss all of the projects you have done over the years. Personally I 
look forward to chatting with many of you on here who I only know by your 
writing style and or email address. 
David Ferrin
VIP Conduit board member
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] new blind handyman chat room

2010-01-13 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins
David,

Thanks for doing this, should be nice. Is this a come  go type room or are
there times Ray and others have said they'll meet?

Al
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[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:57 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] new blind handyman chat room



  We've just created a chat room on the VIP Conduit site called Blind
Handyman chat thanks to the lobbying efforts of our own Ray Boyce who
approached a couple of us on the board asking for it. It is in the open
section available to guest and supporting members alike. He has been after
such a room for a while now and since he is retired he now has the time to
chat about what he has been doing. We hope that many of you take advantage
of Ray's hard work and come on over to discuss all of the projects you have
done over the years. Personally I look forward to chatting with many of you
on here who I only know by your writing style and or email address.
  David Ferrin
  VIP Conduit board member
  www.jaws-users.com
  Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] new blind handyman chat room

2010-01-13 Thread David Ferrin
Well a lot of the details will still need to be worked out as we only just
created the room in the last hour and Ray doesn't even know yet. The room is
stable so folks will be able to come and go as they wish. So far as any kind
of scheduling is concerned and I'm sure there will be some of that you will
know when I know.  We have an events coordinator who is very persistent in
such matters so if there is to be an event to come out of it I know she'll
put something together. 

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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alan  Terrie Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:13 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] new blind handyman chat room

David,

Thanks for doing this, should be nice. Is this a come  go type room or are
there times Ray and others have said they'll meet?

Al
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  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:57 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] new blind handyman chat room



  We've just created a chat room on the VIP Conduit site called Blind
Handyman chat thanks to the lobbying efforts of our own Ray Boyce who
approached a couple of us on the board asking for it. It is in the open
section available to guest and supporting members alike. He has been after
such a room for a while now and since he is retired he now has the time to
chat about what he has been doing. We hope that many of you take advantage
of Ray's hard work and come on over to discuss all of the projects you have
done over the years. Personally I look forward to chatting with many of you
on here who I only know by your writing style and or email address.
  David Ferrin
  VIP Conduit board member
  www.jaws-users.com
  Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.

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[BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit

2010-01-13 Thread Ray Boyce
Hi Everyone

There is now a Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit now open all you have to do is
join, and have a microphone

so we can speak to each other.

I have put the link at the bottom of this message so please join and use
this room as a communication via speech to now hear what we sound like.

Many thanks to the Board for approving this room so it is up to you now to
utilise it, to spread our friendship and talk about those projects which we
are having problems with or just help others with problems finishing those
outstanding.

So here is the link.

http://www.vipconduit.com/index.html 



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[BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Doucet
Hi list,

I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your 
own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and 
how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit

2010-01-13 Thread Blaine Deutscher
this is a free site to join? I was just listening to the audio totorial of 
the website and it never mentioned if it costs. It mentioned that if you 
want to purchase a site membership you can plus get credet for other people 
joining the site. Is this site strictly for the blind handy man or are other 
topics of discussion mentioned here?

Blaine
- Original Message - 
From: Ray Boyce
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit



Hi Everyone

There is now a Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit now open all you have to do is
join, and have a microphone

so we can speak to each other.

I have put the link at the bottom of this message so please join and use
this room as a communication via speech to now hear what we sound like.

Many thanks to the Board for approving this room so it is up to you now to
utilise it, to spread our friendship and talk about those projects which we
are having problems with or just help others with problems finishing those
outstanding.

So here is the link.

http://www.vipconduit.com/index.html

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit

2010-01-13 Thread Ray Boyce
Hi Blaine

Anyone is welcome

Ray

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2010 8:32 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit

 

  

this is a free site to join? I was just listening to the audio totorial of 
the website and it never mentioned if it costs. It mentioned that if you 
want to purchase a site membership you can plus get credet for other people 
joining the site. Is this site strictly for the blind handy man or are other

topics of discussion mentioned here?

Blaine
- Original Message - 
From: Ray Boyce
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit

Hi Everyone

There is now a Handy Man Room on VIP Conduit now open all you have to do is
join, and have a microphone

so we can speak to each other.

I have put the link at the bottom of this message so please join and use
this room as a communication via speech to now hear what we sound like.

Many thanks to the Board for approving this room so it is up to you now to
utilise it, to spread our friendship and talk about those projects which we
are having problems with or just help others with problems finishing those
outstanding.

So here is the link.

http://www.vipconduit.com/index.html

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread chiliblindman
I'm not a total.  I clean my coils about every 5 years if needed.  I think 
right now I am going on 7 years on the inside coil and 2 on the outside unit.  
...bob

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Tom Hodges
Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.  The
repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just cleaned
the outside unit myself.  He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it.  He said if
that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem.  I
gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on.  It has
been fine ever since.  I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
from accumulating again.  

 

The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is supposed
to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it.  He
said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in a
large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units. 

 

Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky

 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

 

  

Hi list,

I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your 
own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and 
how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Max Robinson
Formula 409 will also work very well.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils


 Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.  The
 repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just 
 cleaned
 the outside unit myself.  He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
 the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it.  He said 
 if
 that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem. 
 I
 gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on.  It 
 has
 been fine ever since.  I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
 from accumulating again.



 The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is 
 supposed
 to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it.  He
 said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in 
 a
 large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
 because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.



 Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.



 Hope this helps.



 Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky





 From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils





 Hi list,

 I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
 own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
 how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?





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RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Doucet
Hmmm,

Definitely worth trying.


At 04:57 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:


Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago. The
repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just cleaned
the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He said if
that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem. I
gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It has
been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
from accumulating again.

The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is supposed
to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in a
large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.

Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.

Hope this helps.

Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky

From: 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

Hi list,

I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Doucet
I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer 
coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?

At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:


Formula 409 will also work very well.

Regards.

Max. K 4 O D S.

Email: mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.comm...@maxsmusicplace.com

Transistor site 
http://www.funwithtransistors.nethttp://www.funwithtransistors.net
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- Original Message -
From: Tom Hodges mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.nettomhod...@fuse.net
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

  Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago. The
  repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
  cleaned
  the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying from
  the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He said
  if
  that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another problem.
  I
  gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It
  has
  been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the dirt
  from accumulating again.
 
 
 
  The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is
  supposed
  to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
  said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it in
  a
  large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
  because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
 
 
 
  Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
 
 
 
  Hope this helps.
 
 
 
  Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
 
 
 
 
 
  From: 
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi list,
 
  I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
  own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
  how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Max Robinson
In my house I have to take some of the sheet metal ducting apart.  It's put 
together with pop rivets.  That's why it has only been done once in 38 years 
of living here.

Regards.

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From: Kevin Doucet contac...@kevindoucet.com
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils


I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer
 coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?

 At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:


Formula 409 will also work very well.

Regards.

Max. K 4 O D S.

Email: mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.comm...@maxsmusicplace.com

Transistor site
http://www.funwithtransistors.nethttp://www.funwithtransistors.net
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- Original Message -
From: Tom Hodges mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.nettomhod...@fuse.net
To: 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

  Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago. 
  The
  repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
  cleaned
  the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying 
  from
  the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He 
  said
  if
  that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another 
  problem.
  I
  gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It
  has
  been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the 
  dirt
  from accumulating again.
 
 
 
  The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is
  supposed
  to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
  said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it 
  in
  a
  large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
  because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
 
 
 
  Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
 
 
 
  Hope this helps.
 
 
 
  Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
 
 
 
 
 
  From:
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
  To: 
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi list,
 
  I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
  own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
  how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?
 
 
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
  
 
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  List Members At The Following address:
 
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[BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

2010-01-13 Thread Dan Rossi
So, I just got some battery operated, wirelessly inter connected, 
voice announcing, smoke or smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors.

I got one combination smoke and C O detector, and two smoke detectors. 
The combo unit will go in the basement, and then one smoke detector on the 
main floor, and one in the hallway on the second floor.

You program each one for the location it is in, and then if any one of 
them go off, all of them go off and tell you what the danger is, and where 
it is.  IE, if the unit in the basement activates because of a carbon 
monoxide issue,, and it is late at night and we are snug in our beds on 
the second floor, all of the units, will alarm, then say, EVACUATE! 
CARBON MONOXIDE IN THE BASEMENT!

Since these are battery operated, and wireless, there are no wires to 
run.  Makes it quite easy to install.  Just hang them on the ceiling and 
you are good to go.

Before anyone starts raising your hand and saying that Carbon Monoxide is 
heavier than air and thus the detectors should be near the floor, you are 
mistaken.  I've done a lot of research on this.  There are many web sites 
that make this invalid claim.  But the real science is more convincing.

Air is made of Nitrogen, N2, with an molecular mass of 28.  And Oxygen, 
O2, with an molecular mass of 32.  Carbon Monoxide is made of a Carbon 
atom, atomic mass 12, and one Oxygen, atomic mass 16, giving it an 
molecular mass of 28, equal to N2, and lighter than Oxygen.  Add to that, 
the fact that C O is going to be a product of combustion, IE, it will be 
warm and thus convect upward, and you get quite a good mix of the air and C O.

Some manufacturers say to put the Co detector on the wall at eye level, 
but that is more for the fact that many CO detectors have visual displays 
showing the Parts Per Million of CO in the air, and thus it makes more 
sense to put it somewhere where it is more easily seen on a regular basis.

I thought these were worth mentioning.  They're not that cheap, the combo 
unit was 70 bucks, and the two pack of smoke detectors was 90 I think.  I 
got the combo direct from amazon, but the smoke detector twin pack came 
from EAccess via amazon.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

2010-01-13 Thread Bob Kennedy
If you'd stop smoking you wouldn't need a detector...  hahaha

The only time your theory with height has a problem is if you heat with 
propane.  Propane is very heavy and thus they recommend 18 inches from the 
floor.  But, that is only if anyone heats with propane.  I've seen the 
recommendations of higher levels for the carbon monoxide detectors too.  In 
fact if you are a landlord in North Carolina, you are now required to provide a 
detector.  
The model I bought has a cord that pulls out to plug it in.  If there is a 
cord, have to figure they don't mean for it to sit on the floor.

I would have to find the law again but as I remember it says no less then 36 
inches from the floor.  Most I've talked to that know what they are talking 
about say to mount detectors close to the height of the thermostat.  Smoke 
detectors are recommended over doors because smoke will roller coaster as it 
goes from room to room.  

Sorry I'm lacking on examples and details but that's why your emails are so 
good...

 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:37 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.



  So, I just got some battery operated, wirelessly inter connected, 
  voice announcing, smoke or smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors.

  I got one combination smoke and C O detector, and two smoke detectors. 
  The combo unit will go in the basement, and then one smoke detector on the 
  main floor, and one in the hallway on the second floor.

  You program each one for the location it is in, and then if any one of 
  them go off, all of them go off and tell you what the danger is, and where 
  it is. IE, if the unit in the basement activates because of a carbon 
  monoxide issue,, and it is late at night and we are snug in our beds on 
  the second floor, all of the units, will alarm, then say, EVACUATE! 
  CARBON MONOXIDE IN THE BASEMENT!

  Since these are battery operated, and wireless, there are no wires to 
  run. Makes it quite easy to install. Just hang them on the ceiling and 
  you are good to go.

  Before anyone starts raising your hand and saying that Carbon Monoxide is 
  heavier than air and thus the detectors should be near the floor, you are 
  mistaken. I've done a lot of research on this. There are many web sites 
  that make this invalid claim. But the real science is more convincing.

  Air is made of Nitrogen, N2, with an molecular mass of 28. And Oxygen, 
  O2, with an molecular mass of 32. Carbon Monoxide is made of a Carbon 
  atom, atomic mass 12, and one Oxygen, atomic mass 16, giving it an 
  molecular mass of 28, equal to N2, and lighter than Oxygen. Add to that, 
  the fact that C O is going to be a product of combustion, IE, it will be 
  warm and thus convect upward, and you get quite a good mix of the air and C O.

  Some manufacturers say to put the Co detector on the wall at eye level, 
  but that is more for the fact that many CO detectors have visual displays 
  showing the Parts Per Million of CO in the air, and thus it makes more 
  sense to put it somewhere where it is more easily seen on a regular basis.

  I thought these were worth mentioning. They're not that cheap, the combo 
  unit was 70 bucks, and the two pack of smoke detectors was 90 I think. I 
  got the combo direct from amazon, but the smoke detector twin pack came 
  from EAccess via amazon.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

2010-01-13 Thread Dan Rossi
Bob,

Very good point about the propane.  I've read that as well, but forget 
about it, since I've never known anyone to heat with propane.  I think 
that is because I've typically lived in cold climates.  I think propane 
heat is more common in places where heat is not a necessity.  I could be 
wrong there though.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

2010-01-13 Thread Dale Leavens
A couple of years ago I installed a similar set-up only it isn't wireless. I 
don't know if they weren't available or I just didn't find them. Mine then are 
wired together with battery back-up. They are nice but I find the batteries 
fail fairly quickly. Well, the two fire detectors do, the CO2 detector seems to 
run a long time between batteries, now that I think of it I don't remember yet 
changing that one.

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:37 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.



  So, I just got some battery operated, wirelessly inter connected, 
  voice announcing, smoke or smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors.

  I got one combination smoke and C O detector, and two smoke detectors. 
  The combo unit will go in the basement, and then one smoke detector on the 
  main floor, and one in the hallway on the second floor.

  You program each one for the location it is in, and then if any one of 
  them go off, all of them go off and tell you what the danger is, and where 
  it is. IE, if the unit in the basement activates because of a carbon 
  monoxide issue,, and it is late at night and we are snug in our beds on 
  the second floor, all of the units, will alarm, then say, EVACUATE! 
  CARBON MONOXIDE IN THE BASEMENT!

  Since these are battery operated, and wireless, there are no wires to 
  run. Makes it quite easy to install. Just hang them on the ceiling and 
  you are good to go.

  Before anyone starts raising your hand and saying that Carbon Monoxide is 
  heavier than air and thus the detectors should be near the floor, you are 
  mistaken. I've done a lot of research on this. There are many web sites 
  that make this invalid claim. But the real science is more convincing.

  Air is made of Nitrogen, N2, with an molecular mass of 28. And Oxygen, 
  O2, with an molecular mass of 32. Carbon Monoxide is made of a Carbon 
  atom, atomic mass 12, and one Oxygen, atomic mass 16, giving it an 
  molecular mass of 28, equal to N2, and lighter than Oxygen. Add to that, 
  the fact that C O is going to be a product of combustion, IE, it will be 
  warm and thus convect upward, and you get quite a good mix of the air and C O.

  Some manufacturers say to put the Co detector on the wall at eye level, 
  but that is more for the fact that many CO detectors have visual displays 
  showing the Parts Per Million of CO in the air, and thus it makes more 
  sense to put it somewhere where it is more easily seen on a regular basis.

  I thought these were worth mentioning. They're not that cheap, the combo 
  unit was 70 bucks, and the two pack of smoke detectors was 90 I think. I 
  got the combo direct from amazon, but the smoke detector twin pack came 
  from EAccess via amazon.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Doucet
Wholly crap! Really?

Is that what happens when you get your unit serviced?

At 07:12 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:


In my house I have to take some of the sheet metal ducting apart. It's put
together with pop rivets. That's why it has only been done once in 38 years
of living here.

Regards.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

 I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer
  coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?
 
  At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
 
 
 Formula 409 will also work very well.
 
 Regards.
 
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 To:
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
 Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
 
   Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.
   The
   repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
   cleaned
   the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying
   from
   the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He
   said
   if
   that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another
   problem.
   I
   gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. It
   has
   been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the
   dirt
   from accumulating again.
  
  
  
   The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is
   supposed
   to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. He
   said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had it
   in
   a
   large container and you dilute it with water and it is very expensive
   because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred units.
  
  
  
   Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
  
  
  
   Hope this helps.
  
  
  
   Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
  
  
  
  
  
   From:
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   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
  
  
  
  
  
   Hi list,
  
   I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean your
   own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total and
   how and what do you use to accomplish this feet?
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

2010-01-13 Thread Dale Leavens
Do they make a propane detector?

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.



  If you'd stop smoking you wouldn't need a detector... hahaha

  The only time your theory with height has a problem is if you heat with 
propane. Propane is very heavy and thus they recommend 18 inches from the 
floor. But, that is only if anyone heats with propane. I've seen the 
recommendations of higher levels for the carbon monoxide detectors too. In fact 
if you are a landlord in North Carolina, you are now required to provide a 
detector. 
  The model I bought has a cord that pulls out to plug it in. If there is a 
cord, have to figure they don't mean for it to sit on the floor.

  I would have to find the law again but as I remember it says no less then 36 
inches from the floor. Most I've talked to that know what they are talking 
about say to mount detectors close to the height of the thermostat. Smoke 
detectors are recommended over doors because smoke will roller coaster as it 
goes from room to room. 

  Sorry I'm lacking on examples and details but that's why your emails are so 
good...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:37 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

  So, I just got some battery operated, wirelessly inter connected, 
  voice announcing, smoke or smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors.

  I got one combination smoke and C O detector, and two smoke detectors. 
  The combo unit will go in the basement, and then one smoke detector on the 
  main floor, and one in the hallway on the second floor.

  You program each one for the location it is in, and then if any one of 
  them go off, all of them go off and tell you what the danger is, and where 
  it is. IE, if the unit in the basement activates because of a carbon 
  monoxide issue,, and it is late at night and we are snug in our beds on 
  the second floor, all of the units, will alarm, then say, EVACUATE! 
  CARBON MONOXIDE IN THE BASEMENT!

  Since these are battery operated, and wireless, there are no wires to 
  run. Makes it quite easy to install. Just hang them on the ceiling and 
  you are good to go.

  Before anyone starts raising your hand and saying that Carbon Monoxide is 
  heavier than air and thus the detectors should be near the floor, you are 
  mistaken. I've done a lot of research on this. There are many web sites 
  that make this invalid claim. But the real science is more convincing.

  Air is made of Nitrogen, N2, with an molecular mass of 28. And Oxygen, 
  O2, with an molecular mass of 32. Carbon Monoxide is made of a Carbon 
  atom, atomic mass 12, and one Oxygen, atomic mass 16, giving it an 
  molecular mass of 28, equal to N2, and lighter than Oxygen. Add to that, 
  the fact that C O is going to be a product of combustion, IE, it will be 
  warm and thus convect upward, and you get quite a good mix of the air and C O.

  Some manufacturers say to put the Co detector on the wall at eye level, 
  but that is more for the fact that many CO detectors have visual displays 
  showing the Parts Per Million of CO in the air, and thus it makes more 
  sense to put it somewhere where it is more easily seen on a regular basis.

  I thought these were worth mentioning. They're not that cheap, the combo 
  unit was 70 bucks, and the two pack of smoke detectors was 90 I think. I 
  got the combo direct from amazon, but the smoke detector twin pack came 
  from EAccess via amazon.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

2010-01-13 Thread Dale Leavens
Oh sir! you are wrong. It is an alternative to fuel oil up here in rural areas 
where natural gas is unavailable and sometimes it does get cold. A propane 
installation allows for cooking as well.

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.



  Bob,

  Very good point about the propane. I've read that as well, but forget 
  about it, since I've never known anyone to heat with propane. I think 
  that is because I've typically lived in cold climates. I think propane 
  heat is more common in places where heat is not a necessity. I could be 
  wrong there though.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

2010-01-13 Thread Max Robinson
I did it myself.  I've been trying to talk myself into doing it again.  I 
think it needs it.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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From: Kevin Doucet contac...@kevindoucet.com
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils


 Wholly crap! Really?

 Is that what happens when you get your unit serviced?

 At 07:12 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:


In my house I have to take some of the sheet metal ducting apart. It's put
together with pop rivets. That's why it has only been done once in 38 
years
of living here.

Regards.

Max. K 4 O D S.

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To: 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils

 I know it would be easy to spray 409 on the outer
  coyal but How does a person get to the inner coyle?
 
  At 05:07 PM 1/13/2010, you wrote:
 
 
 Formula 409 will also work very well.
 
 Regards.
 
 Max. K 4 O D S.
 
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 To:
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:57 PM
 Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
 
   Kevin, I had a problem with my AC unit keeping up a few summers ago.
   The
   repairman came and told me he wouldn't charge me anything if I just
   cleaned
   the outside unit myself. He told me to just hose it down by spraying
   from
   the outside toward the inside of the unit all the Way around it. He
   said
   if
   that didn't work, he would come back and see if there is another
   problem.
   I
   gave it a good spraying for about 15 minutes and turned it back on. 
   It
   has
   been fine ever since. I sprayed it again last year just to keep the
   dirt
   from accumulating again.
  
  
  
   The repair guy told me there is a cleaning agent available that is
   supposed
   to help dissolve the dirt, but, that I really didn't need to use it. 
   He
   said it is available at heat and AC supply stores but they only had 
   it
   in
   a
   large container and you dilute it with water and it is very 
   expensive
   because there is enough stuff in the bottle to clean a hundred 
   units.
  
  
  
   Anyway, as I said the hose water alone cleaned it just fine.
  
  
  
   Hope this helps.
  
  
  
   Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky
  
  
  
  
  
   From:
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
   On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
   Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:24 PM
   To:
  
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] thinking ahead; cleaning AC coils
  
  
  
  
  
   Hi list,
  
   I know this is early for the AC season, but, do any of you clean 
   your
   own coils on the AC unit? If so is this a doable deal for a total 
   and
   how and 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

2010-01-13 Thread Michael baldwin
yes they do, they have a combination natural gas and propane detector.  A
HomeDepot sales rep was trying to sell me one when I was putting in new
smoke and CO2 detectors in our last house where we had propane.  He told me
to hang it on the ceiling in the furnace room, by the furnace and water
heater, and it will let me know when there was a propane leak.  I couldn't
get him to understand that propane is heavy, so if I wanted to detect a
propane leak early I needed to put it on the floor.  Oh, I miss our propane,
I hate this natural gas stuff, costs to damn much.
 
What brand were these wireless ones?  I wonder if they can work with wired
ones as well?  I will be installing Kidde wired with battery backup in the
addition that i am still redoing, and these would be great for the older
part where i am not going to run new wiring yet.  
 
Michael
 

  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:32 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.


  

Do they make a propane detector?

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Kennedy 
To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

If you'd stop smoking you wouldn't need a detector... hahaha

The only time your theory with height has a problem is if you heat with
propane. Propane is very heavy and thus they recommend 18 inches from the
floor. But, that is only if anyone heats with propane. I've seen the
recommendations of higher levels for the carbon monoxide detectors too. In
fact if you are a landlord in North Carolina, you are now required to
provide a detector. 
The model I bought has a cord that pulls out to plug it in. If there is a
cord, have to figure they don't mean for it to sit on the floor.

I would have to find the law again but as I remember it says no less then 36
inches from the floor. Most I've talked to that know what they are talking
about say to mount detectors close to the height of the thermostat. Smoke
detectors are recommended over doors because smoke will roller coaster as it
goes from room to room. 

Sorry I'm lacking on examples and details but that's why your emails are so
good...

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Rossi 
To: Blind Handyman List 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] wireless bad thing detectors.

So, I just got some battery operated, wirelessly inter connected, 
voice announcing, smoke or smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors.

I got one combination smoke and C O detector, and two smoke detectors. 
The combo unit will go in the basement, and then one smoke detector on the 
main floor, and one in the hallway on the second floor.

You program each one for the location it is in, and then if any one of 
them go off, all of them go off and tell you what the danger is, and where 
it is. IE, if the unit in the basement activates because of a carbon 
monoxide issue,, and it is late at night and we are snug in our beds on 
the second floor, all of the units, will alarm, then say, EVACUATE! 
CARBON MONOXIDE IN THE BASEMENT!

Since these are battery operated, and wireless, there are no wires to 
run. Makes it quite easy to install. Just hang them on the ceiling and 
you are good to go.

Before anyone starts raising your hand and saying that Carbon Monoxide is 
heavier than air and thus the detectors should be near the floor, you are 
mistaken. I've done a lot of research on this. There are many web sites 
that make this invalid claim. But the real science is more convincing.

Air is made of Nitrogen, N2, with an molecular mass of 28. And Oxygen, 
O2, with an molecular mass of 32. Carbon Monoxide is made of a Carbon 
atom, atomic mass 12, and one Oxygen, atomic mass 16, giving it an 
molecular mass of 28, equal to N2, and lighter than Oxygen. Add to that, 
the fact that C O is going to be a product of combustion, IE, it will be 
warm and thus convect upward, and you get quite a good mix of the air and C
O.

Some manufacturers say to put the Co detector on the wall at eye level, 
but that is more for the fact that many CO detectors have visual displays 
showing the Parts Per Million of CO in the air, and thus it makes more 
sense to put it somewhere where it is more easily seen on a regular basis.

I thought these were worth mentioning. They're not that cheap, the combo 
unit was 70 bucks, and the two pack of smoke detectors was 90 I think. I 
got the combo direct from amazon, but the smoke detector twin pack came 
from EAccess via amazon.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew. mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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