Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
On Wed 15 Dec 2010, 10:20 Phil Holmes wrote: > Thanks. I highlight/flag threads that report bugs I think should be > added to the tracker, and for some reason Ralph's post to .bugs > wasn't flagged with the rest of the thread. :-) Well, i wondered why this thread was not flagged, so i re-read it (to ensure myself that flag had been removed for some solid reason,) Thanks! -- Dmytro O. Redchuk Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" wrote in message news:20101215070206.gb2...@volz.ua... On Wed 17 Nov 2010, 16:18 Ralph Palmer wrote: Greetings, Anders Vinjar - [...] Thank you for your email. This has been added as issue # 1410 : http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1410 Pondly, Ralph On Tue 14 Dec 2010, 16:02 Phil Holmes wrote: Bump. Could a bug-squadder look at this, please? Sorry? It was reported as 1410, as far as i can see... -- Dmytro O. Redchuk Bug Squad Thanks. I highlight/flag threads that report bugs I think should be added to the tracker, and for some reason Ralph's post to .bugs wasn't flagged with the rest of the thread. -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
On Wed 17 Nov 2010, 16:18 Ralph Palmer wrote: > Greetings, Anders Vinjar - > [...] > Thank you for your email. This has been added as issue # 1410 : > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1410 > > Pondly, > > Ralph On Tue 14 Dec 2010, 16:02 Phil Holmes wrote: > Bump. Could a bug-squadder look at this, please? Sorry? It was reported as 1410, as far as i can see... -- Dmytro O. Redchuk Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
wrote in message news:87eiam1vkq@notam02.no... "D" == Dmytro O Redchuk writes: D> Actually, i can understand why this output is _wanted_, but can D> not imagine good Summary for issue report. D> "Rest in lower voice should be placed above notes in in upper if D> voices are crossed"? Or if lower voice's noteheads are above the D> middle line, while upper voice's stems are staring from the D> middle line? D> I am not sure that either is correct. No, the point is that the rests belong to the upper voice, and get pushed below a lower voice if the stem-direction of the upper voice is flipped. See the attached examples. Dont know what is wanted in a "Summary for issue report", but perhaps something along these lines: "Place rests where the noteheads of the voice goes in the column - by default: odds up, evens down - regardless of stem-direction of voice." There may be reasons to not have them like this by default, but i cant figure any places where the opposite (the current behaviour) would be wanted (ie. in one voice: noteheads above, rests below). -anders Bump. Could a bug-squadder look at this, please? -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
Greetings, Anders Vinjar - > I'm not top posting. \version "2.13.39" %% rests in one voice crossing other voice << {c4 c}\\ { r8 c'' r c''} >> %% Rests in mixed (rests+notes) columns don't obey Rest 'direction = #UP: << {c4 c}\\ {\override Rest #'direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''} >> %% wanted output << {c4 c}\\ {\stemNeutral \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''} >> Thank you for your email. This has been added as issue # 1410 : http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1410 Pondly, Ralph ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
> "D" == Dmytro O Redchuk writes: D> Actually, i can understand why this output is _wanted_, but can D> not imagine good Summary for issue report. D> "Rest in lower voice should be placed above notes in in upper if D> voices are crossed"? Or if lower voice's noteheads are above the D> middle line, while upper voice's stems are staring from the D> middle line? D> I am not sure that either is correct. No, the point is that the rests belong to the upper voice, and get pushed below a lower voice if the stem-direction of the upper voice is flipped. See the attached examples. Dont know what is wanted in a "Summary for issue report", but perhaps something along these lines: "Place rests where the noteheads of the voice goes in the column - by default: odds up, evens down - regardless of stem-direction of voice." There may be reasons to not have them like this by default, but i cant figure any places where the opposite (the current behaviour) would be wanted (ie. in one voice: noteheads above, rests below). -anders ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
On Thu 04 Nov 2010, 08:59 Anders Vinjar wrote: > > I'm not top posting. Sorry for delay. > \version "2.13.39" > %% rests in one voice crossing other voice > > << > {c4 c}\\ > { r8 c'' r c''} > >> > > %% Rests in mixed (rests+notes) columns don't obey Rest 'direction = #UP: > << > {c4 c}\\ > {\override Rest #'direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''} > >> > > %% wanted output > << > {c4 c}\\ > {\stemNeutral \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''} > >> Actually, i can understand why this output is _wanted_, but can not imagine good Summary for issue report. "Rest in lower voice should be placed above notes in in upper if voices are crossed"? Or if lower voice's noteheads are above the middle line, while upper voice's stems are staring from the middle line? I am not sure that either is correct. Can anyone help me? Or i've missed something badly? Thanks. -- Dmytro O. Redchuk Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
On 4 November 2010 18:55, wrote: > > Thanks. Ive read the exchange from june 2007, which is clearly > related. > > Related threads: > > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=384 > > I cant see what happened to that. Any news? > > And the recent discussion on user: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-11/msg00014.html > Actually I wanted to link _your_ recent discussion on -user. But I was a bit in a hurry and I did not check twice the link I put in my e-mail. Glad to see it was actually related! Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
> "X" == Xavier Scheuer writes: X> Greetings, X> Just to mention the related discussion on lilypond-user is here: X> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00350.html X> While adding this issue to the tracker, it could be useful to add a link X> to this discussion. Thanks. Ive read the exchange from june 2007, which is clearly related. Related threads: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=384 I cant see what happened to that. Any news? And the recent discussion on user: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-11/msg00014.html -anders ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music
On 4 November 2010 09:59, Anders Vinjar wrote: > >> I'm not top posting. > > \version "2.13.39" > %% rests in one voice crossing other voice > > << > {c4 c}\\ > { r8 c'' r c''} > >> > > %% Rests in mixed (rests+notes) columns don't obey Rest 'direction = #UP: > << > {c4 c}\\ > {\override Rest #'direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''} > >> > > %% wanted output > << > {c4 c}\\ > {\stemNeutral \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''} > >> > > Greetings, Just to mention the related discussion on lilypond-user is here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00350.html While adding this issue to the tracker, it could be useful to add a link to this discussion. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond