Re: CakePHP files in utf-8 without bom?
Yeah sorry. One "i" to much. Yeah worked out just fine. Thanks for helping and google notepad++. just a great editor :P On Mar 30, 2:03 pm, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Mar 30, 2011, at 06:13, func0der wrote: > > > Yeah i was just wondering because notepad++ showed me ANSII > > There is no such thing as "ANSII". There is ASCII: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII > > And there is ANSI: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252 > > > and the > > lanuage file i baked with the console. i put an "ü" in it and it gave > > me a "?" in the browser view. > > "ü" is a "special character", a codepoint above 127; the fact that it showed > up as "?" in your browser (where CakePHP is outputting UTF-8) suggests it was > not a known UTF-8 entity, and hence that you did not save the file as UTF-8, > which you should do. I do not know the notepad++ software so I cannot help > you how to do that in that software. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: CakePHP files in utf-8 without bom?
On Mar 30, 2011, at 06:13, func0der wrote: > Yeah i was just wondering because notepad++ showed me ANSII There is no such thing as "ANSII". There is ASCII: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII And there is ANSI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252 > and the > lanuage file i baked with the console. i put an "ü" in it and it gave > me a "?" in the browser view. "ü" is a "special character", a codepoint above 127; the fact that it showed up as "?" in your browser (where CakePHP is outputting UTF-8) suggests it was not a known UTF-8 entity, and hence that you did not save the file as UTF-8, which you should do. I do not know the notepad++ software so I cannot help you how to do that in that software. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: CakePHP files in utf-8 without bom?
Yeah i was just wondering because notepad++ showed me ANSII and the lanuage file i baked with the console. i put an "ü" in it and it gave me a "?" in the browser view. On Mar 30, 1:13 am, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Mar 29, 2011, at 18:09, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > Files that don't contain special characters (i.e. no characters above > > codepoint 127) don't have an encoding, and can be said to be in any > > encoding -- UTF-8, ASCII, ISO-8859-1 -- doesn't matter, they're all the > > same for the lower 127 codepoints. > > Ok, maybe not *any* encoding. Certainly not UTF-16 (UCS-2) or UTF-32 (UCS-4) > which use 2 or 4 bytes respectively for each character. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: CakePHP files in utf-8 without bom?
As I said before, the whole cake project is completely UTF8 keep my first post in mind and you will be fine. there is no need for any more discussion on this topic. RE: Yeah. But i need to translate the app in different languages not only english ^^ So it's enough to convert these .po files to utf8? But what's about sending mails etc. over controllers or models containing utf8 characters? won't they fail in the mail? Wouldn't it be easier to just use utf8 in all files by the cake foundation directly? Even though every one should use utf8 because it rules ^^ ASCII or better ISO for some languages. UTF8 works always... -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: CakePHP files in utf-8 without bom?
On Mar 29, 2011, at 18:09, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > Files that don't contain special characters (i.e. no characters above > codepoint 127) don't have an encoding, and can be said to be in any encoding > -- UTF-8, ASCII, ISO-8859-1 -- doesn't matter, they're all the same for the > lower 127 codepoints. Ok, maybe not *any* encoding. Certainly not UTF-16 (UCS-2) or UTF-32 (UCS-4) which use 2 or 4 bytes respectively for each character. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: CakePHP files in utf-8 without bom?
On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:44, func0der wrote: > i was just wondering that all files of cakephp are encoded in ANSII > and not in utf-8 without bom. > Even though your default settings for the encoding in the database and > the files are utf-8. > > I thought everything has to be utf-8 to make a project with utf-8 work > probably? > > Are there any special repos for the utf-8 version or something? I don't know whether you meant ASCII or ANSI, but either way you're probably missing the point. I've looked at several files in the CakePHP source that contain special characters. Each of them was UTF-8 encoded, as I expected. Files that don't contain special characters (i.e. no characters above codepoint 127) don't have an encoding, and can be said to be in any encoding -- UTF-8, ASCII, ISO-8859-1 -- doesn't matter, they're all the same for the lower 127 codepoints. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: CakePHP files in utf-8 without bom?
utf8 and ansii is exactle the same as long as you dont use special chars! meaning: if you use english in your views and translate them via locale (po files) you dont need to save them as utf8 but IF you use utf8 chars in your one of your views you gotto save this one correctly On 29 Mrz., 19:44, func0der wrote: > Hey guys, > > i was just wondering that all files of cakephp are encoded in ANSII > and not in utf-8 without bom. > Even though your default settings for the encoding in the database and > the files are utf-8. > > I thought everything has to be utf-8 to make a project with utf-8 work > probably? > > Are there any special repos for the utf-8 version or something? > > Looking forward to you answer ;P > > Greetings > func0der -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
