Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread Gwoo

Nate,

You should stick to coding and leave the licensing questions to the
people who actually know what they are talking about.
Please see my previous message to learn a little about intellectual
property issues.

Sincerely,
Garrett J. Woodworth
JD/MBA 2005 Fordham University
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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread pepejose

hello again.

I opened this post because I am making an application that I have to
release as open source (I'm not forced to use a specific license)

My situation is as follows:

** Cakephp 1.2 RC3 - MIT
** My code (views, controllers, models etc) - GPL?
** Some code with LGPL (tcpdf, for example TinyMCE)

then, which is the best way to publish the application in one package?

diferent licenses?

On the one hand I read that MIT, GPL and LGPL are compatible but on
the other that if I use GPL code in part forces me to use GPL code in
all code ... on the other side as section 3 of the LGPL can convert to
LPG but i dont know not changes that I have to do exactly

greetings and thank you very much

PD: forgiveness for my English

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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread benjam



On Oct 22, 4:07 pm, Gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you
 think your changes are that great, you should really think again.

really?   damn, I didn't know that the Cake devs were the only ones
who could write decent code.

Maybe the Cake devs should hop down off the Cake pedestal and grab a
glass of humble.

sorry to hijack this one, pepejose, back to topic.
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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread Penfold

AFAIK the licence is on a per file basis, and not per project.

The only licence you need to worry about is what licence you give to
your code as
cake will stay MIT, TinyMCE with stay the licence it is released
under.




On 23 Oct, 14:34, pepejose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello again.

 I opened this post because I am making an application that I have to
 release as open source (I'm not forced to use a specific license)

 My situation is as follows:

 ** Cakephp 1.2 RC3 - MIT
 ** My code (views, controllers, models etc) - GPL?
 ** Some code with LGPL (tcpdf, for example TinyMCE)

 then, which is the best way to publish the application in one package?

 diferent licenses?

 On the one hand I read that MIT, GPL and LGPL are compatible but on
 the other that if I use GPL code in part forces me to use GPL code in
 all code ... on the other side as section 3 of the LGPL can convert to
 LPG but i dont know not changes that I have to do exactly

 greetings and thank you very much

 PD: forgiveness for my English
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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread Nate

Gwoo,

You need to chill, and realize what you're talking about before making
stupid accusations.  You're confusing the issue.  The topic at hand is
in fact something that's done with OS software all the time.  All the
knowledge in the world won't help you if you're not paying attention.

On Oct 23, 2:27 am, Gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nate,

 You should stick to coding and leave the licensing questions to the
 people who actually know what they are talking about.
 Please see my previous message to learn a little about intellectual
 property issues.

 Sincerely,
 Garrett J. Woodworth
 JD/MBA 2005 Fordham University
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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread Anupom
Anyway.. thank you Nate for sharing the video. Liked it :)

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Gwoo,

 You need to chill, and realize what you're talking about before making
 stupid accusations.  You're confusing the issue.  The topic at hand is
 in fact something that's done with OS software all the time.  All the
 knowledge in the world won't help you if you're not paying attention.

 On Oct 23, 2:27 am, Gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nate,
 
  You should stick to coding and leave the licensing questions to the
  people who actually know what they are talking about.
  Please see my previous message to learn a little about intellectual
  property issues.
 
  Sincerely,
  Garrett J. Woodworth
  JD/MBA 2005 Fordham University
 



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TrippertLabs, Dhaka
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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread Gwoo



On Oct 23, 11:50 pm, benjam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Oct 22, 4:07 pm, Gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   If you
  think your changes are that great, you should really think again.

 really?   damn, I didn't know that the Cake devs were the only ones
 who could write decent code.

The point is I do not write good code, that is why I release it under
MIT license.


 Maybe the Cake devs should hop down off the Cake pedestal and grab a
 glass of humble.

see above.

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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread Gwoo



On Oct 24, 1:30 am, Nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You need to chill,
Just wanted to give you a taste of your own medicine ;)
Sorry if it sounded harsh. I was just trying to make it clear that
someone cannot change the license.

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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-23 Thread pepejose


hello again ...

in cakephpforum.net have given me a solution.

** QUOTE **

According to the website of GNU you are allowed to have the following
construction:

Your Application (GPLv3 license)
- CakePHP 1.2 RC3 (MIT license)
- TinyMCE (LGPLv2.1 license)

This means that your application uses the GPLv3 as an overall license,
while CakePHP and TinyMCE both still have their own license types. THe
only thing you MUST do in this case is include the original licenses
with your application (by adding the license text as a text file) and
you MUST leave the the license notices at the source code intact
(although you may add your own in case of modifications).

In case your not 100% sure how to use the licenses you can always
contact the developers of the other applications to ask if it's
allowed to use their code and license it as a package under your own
(eg GPL) license.

Terminal13

** /QUOTE **

http://www.cakephpforum.net/index.php?showtopic=1017st=0#entry4539

greetings
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change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-22 Thread pepejose

hello, I've been looking for information about the GPL and MIT and
wanted to know, because I am not sure, if I can change the license of
a framework cakephp to GPL and as I have to make changes

greetings and thank you very much

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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-22 Thread Gwoo

No, only the owner of the copyright can change the license. Depending
on the size of the changes you make, you may or may not be able to
claim ownership in the copyright. By my estimation, you would have to
substantially change more than 50% of every class. That means
modifying the logic not just changing names around.  Anyway, you can
make changes to the framework without changing the license. If you
think your changes are that great, you should really think again.
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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-22 Thread Olexandr Melnyk
As far as my small licensing knowledge goes, derivatives of a MIT-licensed
work can be licensed under GPL, but the original copyright notice has to be
left.

Not to mean that it would be a good idea to fork CakePHP under a not
backwards-compatible open source license, which would prevent from a
potential merge with the main code base in the future.

2008/10/23 Gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 No, only the owner of the copyright can change the license. Depending
 on the size of the changes you make, you may or may not be able to
 claim ownership in the copyright. By my estimation, you would have to
 substantially change more than 50% of every class. That means
 modifying the logic not just changing names around.  Anyway, you can
 make changes to the framework without changing the license. If you
 think your changes are that great, you should really think again.
 



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http://omelnyk.net/

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Re: change MIT license to GPL?

2008-10-22 Thread Nate

On Oct 22, 4:15 pm, pepejose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello, I've been looking for information about the GPL and MIT and
 wanted to know, because I am not sure, if I can change the license of
 a framework cakephp to GPL and as I have to make changes

 greetings and thank you very much

You can certainly re-release the framework under a different license,
though why anyone would ever want to use the GPL is quite beyond me.
Please see here: 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8073195220998636516ei=Eu7_SL7BIYruqALaz7m7BA
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