Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework?
Hi Gjergjy [...] > you'll notice that it isn't very much. not because there aren't good > programmer here, > but because the actual codebase is very difficult to handle : no coding > standards, old > architecture, to much useless code and a lot of other small things. That's true, but I will not say that code is collapsing. Just I would go one step back to free out the smarty stuff out of care2x and coming back to the smart basic idea. That smarty was might the first step to open the project to CMS... :-) So that's maybe also the reason why I am not so enthusiastic about CMS integration. > > as, for me there are only to possible ways of updating care2x. > first, rewrite it all from scratch > second, transform the code towards a more modern architecture. > wich is what I'm doing actually. Yes, 100% ACK on that. Robert - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework?
I agree with Robert. I see alot of problems with using a CMS for the framework of care 3x. I think we should think of using one of the open source Custermors Relationship systems ie Vtiger crm or Sugar crm. I think if were to go with a cms model we be in alpha stages for a couple years. Just my two cents Jeff On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Robert Meggle wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Thanks for that nice words. But there is one what I can guarantee; the > project will not "die". T integration of the current care2x in East Africa > are really proceeding. Those ideas and discussions are for the next > generation. > > In the previous years there had been so many ideas about building a HIS on > the pillars of CMS, but I really having my doubts about that idea. IMHO... > but am always ready to learn from others if there are good arguments. > > Always thinking forward > Robert > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:care2002- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tim Schofield > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Februar 2008 14:52 > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > Cc: noel villamor; Elpidio Latorilla; Robert Meggle; Kaloyan Raev > > Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework? > > > > Hi, Just though I would put my two penneth into this discussion. I > > have been following this mailing list for a while now, and feel a > > little bit frustrated with this project. It seems to me that care2k > > has become a reasonable product by v2.5, and is on the way to becoming > > a good product. > > > > Then it seems it was decided to scrap all this good work and rewrite > > it from scratch. Why? It seems to me that the way forward is one of > > continuous improvement to the base product we have. > > > > It also seems to me that the project has become so wrapped up in the > > tools that it wants to use, that it has forgotten what its purpose > > was. That is to produce good open source software for use in > > hospitals. > > > > My advice is to take what we have that is working (ie v2.5), look for > > a way to improve it, and do that. When that is done, look for another > > way to improve it, and do that. > > > > Anyway, enough from me, just let me finish by saying _please_ dont let > > this project die, by spending years deliberating over this framework, > > or that set of tools etc > > > > Thanks > > Tim > > > > > > On 11/02/2008, Dott Claudio G. Torbinio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi carers > > > As i can see, as part of the project, is that we are talking over the > > > same stuffs, still feb 2007 > > > The same talking, te same FW talking, the same CMS talking... > > > There is somethink does not work. In one year i can rewrite code, port > > > the project, make 1000 more activityes > > > But only talk about... is a poor result. > > > Now someone can agree with me how hard is decide... > > > By my side i can agree or not with decision, but i am always, still, > > > ever hard working. > > > Please decide somethink > > > BR > > > Claudio G. Torbinio > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > ___ > > Care2002-developers mailing list > > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework?
Hi Tim, Thanks for that nice words. But there is one what I can guarantee; the project will not "die". T integration of the current care2x in East Africa are really proceeding. Those ideas and discussions are for the next generation. In the previous years there had been so many ideas about building a HIS on the pillars of CMS, but I really having my doubts about that idea. IMHO... but am always ready to learn from others if there are good arguments. Always thinking forward Robert > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:care2002- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tim Schofield > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Februar 2008 14:52 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: noel villamor; Elpidio Latorilla; Robert Meggle; Kaloyan Raev > Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework? > > Hi, Just though I would put my two penneth into this discussion. I > have been following this mailing list for a while now, and feel a > little bit frustrated with this project. It seems to me that care2k > has become a reasonable product by v2.5, and is on the way to becoming > a good product. > > Then it seems it was decided to scrap all this good work and rewrite > it from scratch. Why? It seems to me that the way forward is one of > continuous improvement to the base product we have. > > It also seems to me that the project has become so wrapped up in the > tools that it wants to use, that it has forgotten what its purpose > was. That is to produce good open source software for use in > hospitals. > > My advice is to take what we have that is working (ie v2.5), look for > a way to improve it, and do that. When that is done, look for another > way to improve it, and do that. > > Anyway, enough from me, just let me finish by saying _please_ dont let > this project die, by spending years deliberating over this framework, > or that set of tools etc > > Thanks > Tim > > > On 11/02/2008, Dott Claudio G. Torbinio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi carers > > As i can see, as part of the project, is that we are talking over the > > same stuffs, still feb 2007 > > The same talking, te same FW talking, the same CMS talking... > > There is somethink does not work. In one year i can rewrite code, port > > the project, make 1000 more activityes > > But only talk about... is a poor result. > > Now someone can agree with me how hard is decide... > > By my side i can agree or not with decision, but i am always, still, > > ever hard working. > > Please decide somethink > > BR > > Claudio G. Torbinio > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Fix to make care2x work with php 5.x
Hi Gjergj,
Hey, thanks again for that nice work. I will check that out this week
carefully.
Many thanks for that kind of prominent work.
Robert
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:care2002-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gjergj Sheldija
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Februar 2008 16:23
> An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: [Care2002-developers] Fix to make care2x work with php 5.x
>
> hi all,
>
> i managed to get care2x work with php 5.2.2.
> here is what to do :
>
> file : include/inc_environment_global.php
> line 82 :
> change from : ini_set('session.save_handler','user'); to
> ini_set('session.save_handler','files');
>
> line 102 :
> change from :
> include_once($root_path.'classes/adodb/session/adodb-session.php');
> to : //
> include_once($root_path.'classes/adodb/session/adodb-session.php');
>
> all this supposing that you have enabled session in your php.ini.
>
> regards
> gjergji
>
>
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[Care2002-developers] Fix to make care2x work with php 5.x
hi all,
i managed to get care2x work with php 5.2.2.
here is what to do :
file : include/inc_environment_global.php
line 82 :
change from : ini_set('session.save_handler','user'); to
ini_set('session.save_handler','files');
line 102 :
change from :
include_once($root_path.'classes/adodb/session/adodb-session.php');
to : //
include_once($root_path.'classes/adodb/session/adodb-session.php');
all this supposing that you have enabled session in your php.ini.
regards
gjergji
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework?
Hi, what you say about the improvements in care2x are right from a certain point of view. but, for me, as I see it, is very difficult to add all the features I'll wish. at least with this codebase. if you calculate a bit what has been added to the actual project in this year, you'll notice that it isn't very much. not because there aren't good programmer here, but because the actual codebase is very difficult to handle : no coding standards, old architecture, to much useless code and a lot of other small things. as, for me there are only to possible ways of updating care2x. first, rewrite it all from scratch second, transform the code towards a more modern architecture. wich is what I'm doing actually. regards gjergji Tim Schofield wrote: > Hi, Just though I would put my two penneth into this discussion. I > have been following this mailing list for a while now, and feel a > little bit frustrated with this project. It seems to me that care2k > has become a reasonable product by v2.5, and is on the way to becoming > a good product. > > Then it seems it was decided to scrap all this good work and rewrite > it from scratch. Why? It seems to me that the way forward is one of > continuous improvement to the base product we have. > > It also seems to me that the project has become so wrapped up in the > tools that it wants to use, that it has forgotten what its purpose > was. That is to produce good open source software for use in > hospitals. > > My advice is to take what we have that is working (ie v2.5), look for > a way to improve it, and do that. When that is done, look for another > way to improve it, and do that. > > Anyway, enough from me, just let me finish by saying _please_ dont let > this project die, by spending years deliberating over this framework, > or that set of tools etc > > Thanks > Tim > > > On 11/02/2008, Dott Claudio G. Torbinio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi carers >> As i can see, as part of the project, is that we are talking over the >> same stuffs, still feb 2007 >> The same talking, te same FW talking, the same CMS talking... >> There is somethink does not work. In one year i can rewrite code, port >> the project, make 1000 more activityes >> But only talk about... is a poor result. >> Now someone can agree with me how hard is decide... >> By my side i can agree or not with decision, but i am always, still, >> ever hard working. >> Please decide somethink >> BR >> Claudio G. Torbinio >> > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework?
Hi, Just though I would put my two penneth into this discussion. I have been following this mailing list for a while now, and feel a little bit frustrated with this project. It seems to me that care2k has become a reasonable product by v2.5, and is on the way to becoming a good product. Then it seems it was decided to scrap all this good work and rewrite it from scratch. Why? It seems to me that the way forward is one of continuous improvement to the base product we have. It also seems to me that the project has become so wrapped up in the tools that it wants to use, that it has forgotten what its purpose was. That is to produce good open source software for use in hospitals. My advice is to take what we have that is working (ie v2.5), look for a way to improve it, and do that. When that is done, look for another way to improve it, and do that. Anyway, enough from me, just let me finish by saying _please_ dont let this project die, by spending years deliberating over this framework, or that set of tools etc Thanks Tim On 11/02/2008, Dott Claudio G. Torbinio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi carers > As i can see, as part of the project, is that we are talking over the > same stuffs, still feb 2007 > The same talking, te same FW talking, the same CMS talking... > There is somethink does not work. In one year i can rewrite code, port > the project, make 1000 more activityes > But only talk about... is a poor result. > Now someone can agree with me how hard is decide... > By my side i can agree or not with decision, but i am always, still, > ever hard working. > Please decide somethink > BR > Claudio G. Torbinio - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
