Re: [ccp4bb] Announcement: two crystallographic wikis

2008-02-08 Thread Kevin Cowtan

To add to Kay's announcement...

There is also going to be another, "official", ccp4 wiki, distinct from
Kay's wiki, and fulfilling a different purpose. We're in the early
stages of developing it at the moment. The precise roles will probably
evolve over time, but currently we see them as follows:


"Official" CCP4 wiki: This is primarily aimed at providing more
up-to-date and more easily updated documentation for the software, as
well as a broader crystallographic knowledge base. It will be
GUI-oriented, unlike the existing documentation. It will be written
mainly by developers and experienced users, and will be curated - so
editing will not be completely open. I hope to be able to release it by
the end of the month (but I've been saying that for several months already).

"Community" wiki: (i.e. Kay's announcement). This will be far more
community oriented, open to all contributors, and hopefully will collect
good stuff from the bulletin board, as well as any other material people
want to add. I hope, also, that because it is not hosted by CCP4, that
it will be able to provide an independent voice! It is certainly useful
to have a forum in which unofficial, and if necessary, critical
viewpoints can be expressed.


We also hope to link between the two wikis, and when appropriate, copy
material between them. This is all developing rapidly though, so things
may change!


Re: [ccp4bb] Announcement: two crystallographic wikis

2008-02-07 Thread George M. Sheldrick

Dear Kay,

That looks to be an excellent start. I should like to add SHELXL as well 
as SHELXC/D/E, there are regularly questions about it in CCP4bb. I'm not 
quite clear about how to generate enough material to make it useful, 
obviously you don't want to simply copy the SHELX manual, and similar 
comments would apply to other programs. To make it more complicated, 
crystallographic programs are moving targets (though some move faster 
than others). Perhaps the best way would be to go through the CCP4bb 
archive and try to extract a useful consensus, though even that would 
be a lot of work.

Best wishes, George

Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS
Dept. Structural Chemistry,
University of Goettingen,
Tammannstr. 4,
D37077 Goettingen, Germany
Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068
Fax. +49-551-39-2582


On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Kay Diederichs wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I want to bring two crystallographic wikis to your attention, asking for your
> contribution:
> 
> 1) CCP4 user community wiki:
> http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> 
> This wiki was planned by Tassos and me, and Artem and Clemens joined us
> lately. Unfortunately this has almost no contents so far, but we hope that
> people who post answers on the CCP4 mailing list will take the time and
> compose/edit the corresponding articles of the wiki. The intention is that the
> wiki will capture the breadth of topics on CCP4BB, which will make it a useful
> resource e.g. for "frequently asked questions", offloading some of the
> question/answer traffic on CCP4BB to a more permanent mode of storage.
> 
> 2) XDSwiki: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/XDS
> for XDS users. This has quite a bit of information already. The purpose of
> this wiki is to provide an accurate resource for XDS users, and to provide
> explanations and hints for the successful use of XDS. It has Tips and Tricks
> for XDS usage, explanations of its output, and recommendations for the
> parameters in XDS.INP (if it appears useful to deviate from their defaults).
> 
> Hoping that these wikis will be useful, and that many people contribute!
> 
> Kay Diederichs
> -- 
> Kay Diederichshttp://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel +49 7531 88 4049 Fax 3183
> Fachbereich Biologie, Universität Konstanz, Box M647, D-78457 Konstanz
> 
> 

[ccp4bb] Announcement: two crystallographic wikis

2008-02-07 Thread Kay Diederichs

Dear all,

I want to bring two crystallographic wikis to your attention, asking for 
your contribution:


1) CCP4 user community wiki: 
http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Main_Page


This wiki was planned by Tassos and me, and Artem and Clemens joined us 
lately. Unfortunately this has almost no contents so far, but we hope 
that people who post answers on the CCP4 mailing list will take the time 
and compose/edit the corresponding articles of the wiki. The intention 
is that the wiki will capture the breadth of topics on CCP4BB, which 
will make it a useful resource e.g. for "frequently asked questions", 
offloading some of the question/answer traffic on CCP4BB to a more 
permanent mode of storage.


2) XDSwiki: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/XDS
for XDS users. This has quite a bit of information already. The purpose 
of this wiki is to provide an accurate resource for XDS users, and to 
provide explanations and hints for the successful use of XDS. It has 
Tips and Tricks for XDS usage, explanations of its output, and 
recommendations for the parameters in XDS.INP (if it appears useful to 
deviate from their defaults).


Hoping that these wikis will be useful, and that many people contribute!

Kay Diederichs
--
Kay Diederichshttp://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel +49 7531 88 4049 Fax 3183
Fachbereich Biologie, Universität Konstanz, Box M647, D-78457 Konstanz


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