[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[ben via cctalk]

On 2023-09-07 3:44 p.m., ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk wrote:



On 09/07/2023 2:36 AM AEST Mike Katz via cctalk  wrote:
Does VAX have nothing to do with vacuum cleaners?


Here in Oz, VAX has been a popular brand of vacuum cleaner for many decades. We 
had one until recently.
https://www.vax.com.au/

Steve


I say a good item to have, when the bit bucket overflows.
Ben.

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Gavin Scott via cctalk]

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:49 PM ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via
cctalk  wrote:
> Here in Oz, VAX has been a popular brand of vacuum cleaner for many decades. 
> We had one until recently.
> https://www.vax.com.au/

http://catb.org/jargon/html/V/VAX.html

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Tarek Hoteit via cctalk]

TRUE! Only the vintage folks (us) would appreciate what or how we think

Earlier today Paul Koning sent a post under a seperate thread  “….,  (movb 
#1,r0) fetches the instruction and increments PC by 2, thfetches the word where 
the PC points and increments by 2, not 1 again.” And then sent a correction 
"R7)+, actually; @(R7)+ is absolute.  …”. I swear when I read it, I thought how 
my  20yr old  kids or even my lifelong wife would react if  I echoed back the 
same words to them……… 


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Tarek Hoteit
ta...@infocom.ai
+1 360-838-3675

https://infocom.ai



> On Sep 7, 2023, at 5:25 PM, Mike Katz  wrote:
> 
> Whom ever said youth is wasted on the young was telling a very serious truth.
> 
> On 9/7/2023 7:12 PM, Tarek Hoteit wrote:
>> Safe recovery! Yes, the physical human OLD sucks (not the geeky-part <- 
>> guess that keeps us more functioning)  
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> Tarek Hoteit
>> ta...@infocom.ai 
>> +1 360-838-3675
>> 
>> https://infocom.ai 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 5:07 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My sympathies to both of you and wishes for a good and complete recovery.
>>> 
>>> 2 years ago I had a heart attack in my dojo.   8 stents and a pacemaker 
>>> later I was back on the mat in 3 weeks.  It was 6 months before I was able 
>>> to go full speed.
>>> 
>>> Getting old sucks!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/7/2023 6:58 PM, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
 Jon,
 
 Yea. It affected my left side. Loss of muscle strength. I am left handed
 and lost my strength but luckily can still type albeit slower.
 
 Good thing the keyboard has a backspace key.
 
 Fortunately I still get ideas but it sometimes takes awhile to write them
 down.
 
 -Ken
 
 On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 7:32 PM Jon Elson via cctalk 
  
 wrote:
 
> On 9/7/23 17:18, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
>> Hi guys.
>> 
>> Since I can't get out due to my stroke, be sure to post plenty of snaps
> of
>> the event...
>> 
> Sorry to hear about that.  I had a very mild stroke 2 years
> ago, but it has affected dexterity in my right hand.  My
> writing is now horrible (my penmanship was never really
> great) and typing is more error prone than before.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Mike Katz via cctalk]

Whom ever said youth is wasted on the young was telling a very serious 
truth.


On 9/7/2023 7:12 PM, Tarek Hoteit wrote:
Safe recovery! Yes, the physical human OLD sucks (not the geeky-part 
<- guess that keeps us more functioning)


- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Tarek Hoteit
ta...@infocom.ai
+1 360-838-3675

https://infocom.ai



On Sep 7, 2023, at 5:07 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk 
 wrote:


My sympathies to both of you and wishes for a good and complete recovery.

2 years ago I had a heart attack in my dojo.   8 stents and a 
pacemaker later I was back on the mat in 3 weeks. It was 6 months 
before I was able to go full speed.


Getting old sucks!!!



On 9/7/2023 6:58 PM, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:

Jon,

Yea. It affected my left side. Loss of muscle strength. I am left handed
and lost my strength but luckily can still type albeit slower.

Good thing the keyboard has a backspace key.

Fortunately I still get ideas but it sometimes takes awhile to write 
them

down.

-Ken

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 7:32 PM Jon Elson via cctalk 


wrote:


On 9/7/23 17:18, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:

Hi guys.

Since I can't get out due to my stroke, be sure to post plenty of 
snaps

of

the event...


Sorry to hear about that.  I had a very mild stroke 2 years
ago, but it has affected dexterity in my right hand.  My
writing is now horrible (my penmanship was never really
great) and typing is more error prone than before.

Jon

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Tarek Hoteit via cctalk]

Safe recovery! Yes, the physical human OLD sucks (not the geeky-part <- guess 
that keeps us more functioning)  

- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Tarek Hoteit
ta...@infocom.ai
+1 360-838-3675

https://infocom.ai



> On Sep 7, 2023, at 5:07 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> My sympathies to both of you and wishes for a good and complete recovery.
> 
> 2 years ago I had a heart attack in my dojo.   8 stents and a pacemaker later 
> I was back on the mat in 3 weeks.  It was 6 months before I was able to go 
> full speed.
> 
> Getting old sucks!!!
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/7/2023 6:58 PM, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
>> Jon,
>> 
>> Yea. It affected my left side. Loss of muscle strength. I am left handed
>> and lost my strength but luckily can still type albeit slower.
>> 
>> Good thing the keyboard has a backspace key.
>> 
>> Fortunately I still get ideas but it sometimes takes awhile to write them
>> down.
>> 
>> -Ken
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 7:32 PM Jon Elson via cctalk 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/7/23 17:18, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
 Hi guys.
 
 Since I can't get out due to my stroke, be sure to post plenty of snaps
>>> of
 the event...
 
>>> Sorry to hear about that.  I had a very mild stroke 2 years
>>> ago, but it has affected dexterity in my right hand.  My
>>> writing is now horrible (my penmanship was never really
>>> great) and typing is more error prone than before.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> 
> 

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Mike Katz via cctalk]

My sympathies to both of you and wishes for a good and complete recovery.

2 years ago I had a heart attack in my dojo.   8 stents and a pacemaker 
later I was back on the mat in 3 weeks.  It was 6 months before I was 
able to go full speed.


Getting old sucks!!!



On 9/7/2023 6:58 PM, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:

Jon,

Yea. It affected my left side. Loss of muscle strength. I am left handed
and lost my strength but luckily can still type albeit slower.

Good thing the keyboard has a backspace key.

Fortunately I still get ideas but it sometimes takes awhile to write them
down.

-Ken

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 7:32 PM Jon Elson via cctalk 
wrote:


On 9/7/23 17:18, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:

Hi guys.

Since I can't get out due to my stroke, be sure to post plenty of snaps

of

the event...


Sorry to hear about that.  I had a very mild stroke 2 years
ago, but it has affected dexterity in my right hand.  My
writing is now horrible (my penmanship was never really
great) and typing is more error prone than before.

Jon

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[KenUnix via cctalk]

Jon,

Yea. It affected my left side. Loss of muscle strength. I am left handed
and lost my strength but luckily can still type albeit slower.

Good thing the keyboard has a backspace key.

Fortunately I still get ideas but it sometimes takes awhile to write them
down.

-Ken

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 7:32 PM Jon Elson via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 9/7/23 17:18, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
> > Hi guys.
> >
> > Since I can't get out due to my stroke, be sure to post plenty of snaps
> of
> > the event...
> >
> Sorry to hear about that.  I had a very mild stroke 2 years
> ago, but it has affected dexterity in my right hand.  My
> writing is now horrible (my penmanship was never really
> great) and typing is more error prone than before.
>
> Jon
>
>

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JOB TERMINATED

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Jon Elson via cctalk]

On 9/7/23 17:18, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:

Hi guys.

Since I can't get out due to my stroke, be sure to post plenty of snaps of
the event...

Sorry to hear about that.  I had a very mild stroke 2 years 
ago, but it has affected dexterity in my right hand.  My 
writing is now horrible (my penmanship was never really 
great) and typing is more error prone than before.


Jon

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[KenUnix via cctalk]

Hi guys.

Since I can't get out due to my stroke, be sure to post plenty of snaps of
the event...

Pizza hold the pepperoni.

-Ken


On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 6:06 PM Mike Katz via cctalk 
wrote:

> With Dorothy and the Tin Woodsman as their salespeople 藍
>
> I think those would be micro-vaxen because they are only single user.
>
> On 9/7/2023 4:44 PM, ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk wrote:
> >> On 09/07/2023 2:36 AM AEST Mike Katz via cctalk 
> wrote:
> >> Does VAX have nothing to do with vacuum cleaners?
> > Here in Oz, VAX has been a popular brand of vacuum cleaner for many
> decades. We had one until recently.
> > https://www.vax.com.au/
> >
> > Steve
>
>

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JOB TERMINATED

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Mike Katz via cctalk]

With Dorothy and the Tin Woodsman as their salespeople 藍

I think those would be micro-vaxen because they are only single user.

On 9/7/2023 4:44 PM, ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk wrote:

On 09/07/2023 2:36 AM AEST Mike Katz via cctalk  wrote:
Does VAX have nothing to do with vacuum cleaners?

Here in Oz, VAX has been a popular brand of vacuum cleaner for many decades. We 
had one until recently.
https://www.vax.com.au/

Steve

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk]

> On 09/07/2023 2:36 AM AEST Mike Katz via cctalk  wrote:
> Does VAX have nothing to do with vacuum cleaners?

Here in Oz, VAX has been a popular brand of vacuum cleaner for many decades. We 
had one until recently.
https://www.vax.com.au/

Steve

[cctalk] Re: Setup for VCFMW

[Jon Elson via cctalk]

On 9/7/23 09:35, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:

What time is setup Tomorrow (Friday, 8-Sep-23) for VCFMW?


They sent out a message to vendors that it would be open 10 
AM to 10 PM, a few people would stay during the pizza dinner 
to allow latecomers to load their stuff.


Jon

[cctalk] Setup for VCFMW

[Mike Katz via cctalk]

What time is setup Tomorrow (Friday, 8-Sep-23) for VCFMW?

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:17 AM, Lars Brinkhoff  wrote:
>> 
>> Paul Koning wrote:
>>> Even then it increments by 2, by special exception.  So 112700, 1
>>> (movb #1,r0) fetches the instruction and increments PC by 2, then
>>> fetches the word where the PC points and increments by 2, not 1,
>>> again.
>> 
>> It's not really a special exception because immediate mode is @(R7)+.
> 
> (R7)+, actually; @(R7)+ is absolute.  I meant "special exception" because 
> auto inc/dec of R6 and R7 always increments by 1, while for R0-R5 it 
> increments by the datum size.

Oops, typo.  Of course, auto inc/dec of R6 and R7 (SP and PC) always increment 
by TWO, while auto inc/dec of other registers increments by the size of 
whatever is accessed.

paul

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:17 AM, Lars Brinkhoff  wrote:
> 
> Paul Koning wrote:
>> Even then it increments by 2, by special exception.  So 112700, 1
>> (movb #1,r0) fetches the instruction and increments PC by 2, then
>> fetches the word where the PC points and increments by 2, not 1,
>> again.
> 
> It's not really a special exception because immediate mode is @(R7)+.

(R7)+, actually; @(R7)+ is absolute.  I meant "special exception" because auto 
inc/dec of R6 and R7 always increments by 1, while for R0-R5 it increments by 
the datum size.

paul

[cctalk] Apollo motherboard 013034, 246402-01 available

[Paul Anderson via cctalk]

Dated 1988, refurb?

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

[Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk]

Paul Koning wrote:
> Even then it increments by 2, by special exception.  So 112700, 1
> (movb #1,r0) fetches the instruction and increments PC by 2, then
> fetches the word where the PC points and increments by 2, not 1,
> again.

It's not really a special exception because immediate mode is @(R7)+.