Re: Cold Fusion Magazine? Any Good?
Me too subscribed to CFDJ from Israel. Very good! Thanks, Michael Lugassy, Senior Server Engineer Interactive Music Ltd. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SQL 7 and 2000 on same machine?
On 4/20/01, Bob Silverberg penned: When you install the SQL 2000 client tools on your machine it will overwrite the SS7 tools (e.g., Enterprise Manager). You can only have one version of EM on a machine. You can install 2000 as a separate Instance and it won't touch 7. I've got both desktop versions on my development box. -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Is CF still relevant?
On 4/20/01, Joseph Grossberg penned: Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at, and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is it because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the best solution for web application development in 2001? All of the above. :) -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF Performance monitoring
Hi, I am trying to set-up performance monitoring for ColdFusion on a win2k platform, my problem is that the counters are not available to the performance monitor. I am sure that these have been removed for some reason and need to know if they can be re-installed or whether I need to do a complete re-install of CF. Does anyone know which file makes these counters available to perfmon.exe, a DLL I pressume? I have searched through all the Allaire documentation, but cannot find anything on how to install thecounters once they have been removed. TIA Phil. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Express
I don't think it does. According to the CF Express product information on the website: ODBC Connections Access standard ODBC-compliant desktop relational databases including Microsoft Access and FoxPro, Borland Paradox and dBase, Lotus Approach, text files, and Excel files with a single tag. Use any SQL to select, insert, update, or delete data. The product feature matrix at http://www.allaire.com/documentcenter/partners/CF45ServerFeatureMatrix.doc also has a footnote for Express: "ColdFusion Express only supports a limited set of desktop databases." Debbie -Original Message- From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Express Does CF Express work with SQL server ? The following is from the documentation on CF Express: ColdFusion Express, as with other editions of ColdFusion, supports any ODBC database. However, the Express installation process installs the following drivers, which we know to work well with ColdFusion: Windows: Microsoft drivers are supplied for Access, FoxPro, Visual FoxPro, Excel, Filemaker Pro ODBC, and text data sources. Does this mean that it'll work with SQL server as long as an odbc driver is available .. Any input would be appreciated! Allan ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Repost: Tables on the fly
what was the code you put in a table to get it to display on the fly before the /table I have a search pages thats geeting so big that it needs to be able to be displayed on the fly Bill Wheatley Director of Development Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF tags add-in for Tag Insight in HomeSite
Does anyone know if there is someplace I can go to download an add-in to HomeSite that will put all the CF tags in Tag Insight like they are in Studio? Thanks! George [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SQL 7 and 2000 on same machine?
I'm not sure what the point of your note is. You are just repeating exactly what I said. As I said in my complete note, you can have both SS7 and SS2K installed on a single machine, but you will only have one version of _Enterprise Manager_ installed (the 2K version). Do you have something to add to that? Bob -Original Message- From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 6:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL 7 and 2000 on same machine? On 4/20/01, Bob Silverberg penned: When you install the SQL 2000 client tools on your machine it will overwrite the SS7 tools (e.g., Enterprise Manager). You can only have one version of EM on a machine. You can install 2000 as a separate Instance and it won't touch 7. I've got both desktop versions on my development box. -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
cfcache with database changes
Am I missing something or is this the way that the cfcache tag is supposed to work? I have a page which has a menu that derives its data from the database. So I use the cfcache tag on that page set to action="CACHE" I use the following only after a change that affects the menu is made to the database. cfcache action="FLUSH" directory="http://127.0.0.1/cfscripts/arica/tranlation/" expireurl="Q_D_LanguageMenu.cfm" However, the menu is not refreshed. I have also used the local file path with no success: c:\inetput\root\cfscripts\arica\translation\. The only time the menu page gets refreshed is that if I manually change something on that page thereby changing its timestamp. Is there a work around or am I using this tag incorrectly? Thanks, Sebastian ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SQL 7 and 2000 on same machine?
On 4/21/01, Bob Silverberg penned: I'm not sure what the point of your note is. You are just repeating exactly what I said. As I said in my complete note, you can have both SS7 and SS2K installed on a single machine, but you will only have one version of _Enterprise Manager_ installed (the 2K version). Do you have something to add to that? Nope. I mistakenly thought that the old version of EM remained with SQL 7. Thanks for setting me straight. :) -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Win2K TCP/IP on road
When I am on the road I need to configure TCP/IP to use DHCP but when I am home I need to use static ip. Is there any way to keep these two configurations so I don't have reenter ip everytime I change. I have tried using different hardware profiles but since I am using same adapter the change of ip propagates through all profiles when I change it. TIA ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Win2K TCP/IP on road
-Original Message- From: Don Vawter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 3:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Win2K TCP/IP on road When I am on the road I need to configure TCP/IP to use DHCP but when I am home I need to use static ip. Is there any way to keep these two configurations so I don't have reenter ip everytime I change. I have tried using different hardware profiles but since I am using same adapter the change of ip propagates through all profiles when I change it. Try netswitcher: www.netswitcher.com -Andy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Is CF still relevant?
I have only dabbled in other programming languages, but from what I can see, CF does most everything the others do, but does it easier. The high cost keeps it from being as popular as ASP and others. I know lots of developers who are spending lots of time learning PHP since the Enterprise version of CF is just too expensive to put on the server. There is just not enough demand for a higher priced account. Too bad Allaire/Macr... There are a lot of potential clients out there if it were just more affordable. Chris Giminez Cyber Scriber I probably should not join this particular thread because I will probably be seen as very biased BUT. But I am a relative newbie as an employee of Allaire now Macromedia. My experience with using ColdFusion and briefly trying ASP is more relevant since I have used ColdFusion since late 1995-96. In reality ColdFusion should have died long ago as it has an appreciable up front cost. But it did not die in the face of alternatives that have no up front costs. In fact rather than ceasing to exist it grew exponentially in use. Also, the ColdFusion community has never seemed small to me as I struggled with and was presented with solutions to challenging issues, time and time again. Now, we have the honeymoon and final marriage of Allaire and Macromedia. I do not know what will eventually come out of this but I do know it will be fed and nurtured with ideas from all the worldwide developers and users of both former Macromedia and Allaire products and I do know that we are only limited by our own imaginations. My personal opinion is that now would definitely be the wrong time to move away from ColdFusion for anyone with a desire to be involved in the future of the Internet and the Web. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Macromedia Consulting Tel 562.243.6255 Fax 401.696.4335 http://www.macromedia.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Is CF still relevant? Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This isn't so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step back and reevalutate things periodically. Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP, JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of CF's strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively small community; etc. Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house" (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or another non-CF solution? Why or why not? And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages (Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating Systems (Amiga) have resignedly done? Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at, and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is it because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the best solution for web application development in 2001? Joe ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Win2K TCP/IP on road
Thanks Andy. Works like a charm. $9.00 well spent. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Tyrone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:35 PM Subject: RE: Win2K TCP/IP on road -Original Message- From: Don Vawter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 3:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Win2K TCP/IP on road When I am on the road I need to configure TCP/IP to use DHCP but when I am home I need to use static ip. Is there any way to keep these two configurations so I don't have reenter ip everytime I change. I have tried using different hardware profiles but since I am using same adapter the change of ip propagates through all profiles when I change it. Try netswitcher: www.netswitcher.com -Andy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Is CF still relevant?
The cost of PHP versus CF not counting server license is not that far off. If you want top of the line performance with ZendCache you will need to pay a hefty price (www.zend.com). If you want to use Zend's php editor you have to pay a price too. The caching system is part of CF already. WIth JSP, Level 4 JDBC drivers will cost from several hundred to thousands depending on your database and number of connections. That alone will overshadow the cost a professional license. None of the open source solutions are free or even close to free to get the performance and connectivity of a CF enterprise or even professional edition. I think what it comes down to is stability and how you use the products. PHP doesn't have a nice error catching system like JSP or CF. JSP has shown to be the slowest of all platforms. PHP for windows is as buggy as your backyard so switching to linux/bsd means extra training/cost to your company. But I do agree allaire should setup to the plate and at least give an estimate on the CF 6.0/JSP edition timeline. Even an estimate will satisfy a lot of us. xing - Original Message - From: "Chris Giminez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Is CF still relevant? I have only dabbled in other programming languages, but from what I can see, CF does most everything the others do, but does it easier. The high cost keeps it from being as popular as ASP and others. I know lots of developers who are spending lots of time learning PHP since the Enterprise version of CF is just too expensive to put on the server. There is just not enough demand for a higher priced account. Too bad Allaire/Macr... There are a lot of potential clients out there if it were just more affordable. Chris Giminez Cyber Scriber I probably should not join this particular thread because I will probably be seen as very biased BUT. But I am a relative newbie as an employee of Allaire now Macromedia. My experience with using ColdFusion and briefly trying ASP is more relevant since I have used ColdFusion since late 1995-96. In reality ColdFusion should have died long ago as it has an appreciable up front cost. But it did not die in the face of alternatives that have no up front costs. In fact rather than ceasing to exist it grew exponentially in use. Also, the ColdFusion community has never seemed small to me as I struggled with and was presented with solutions to challenging issues, time and time again. Now, we have the honeymoon and final marriage of Allaire and Macromedia. I do not know what will eventually come out of this but I do know it will be fed and nurtured with ideas from all the worldwide developers and users of both former Macromedia and Allaire products and I do know that we are only limited by our own imaginations. My personal opinion is that now would definitely be the wrong time to move away from ColdFusion for anyone with a desire to be involved in the future of the Internet and the Web. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Macromedia Consulting Tel 562.243.6255 Fax 401.696.4335 http://www.macromedia.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Is CF still relevant? Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This isn't so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step back and reevalutate things periodically. Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP, JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of CF's strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively small community; etc. Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house" (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or another non-CF solution? Why or why not? And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages (Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating Systems (Amiga) have resignedly done? Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at, and you don't want to try something
Re: Is CF still relevant?
No one accused CF of being cheap to host but the fact is that it was never targeted to the individual developer. CF Enterprise is expensive, but I am sure others can attest to this -it is still possible to develop killer applications using CF Professional. CF may not be the best tool for the solo consultant, working hand to mouth on projects - but it is still relevant at the enterprise level. Large companies are using it all over the place - some exclusively, some not. I have been using CF since version 1.0 in 1995. I like it. I feel that I can do wonders with it. But I am not closing my eyes or sticking my head in the sand. It is still relevant, but at the same time I am looking at JSP as an augmentation of my skill set, particularly with Neo ahead of us. Dave Watts -and even Ben Forta have made cases for when and where to use CF. Sometimes it isn't the best tool for the job at hand. In many others, in the hands of skilled developers who understand how architect applications, using components and extensions, it can be a very powerful glue tying things together. I see a distinct parrallel in the heyday of the X-Base languages such as Clipper, and the development of the user community as well as the third party component market that came with it during the late '80s and early '90s. I just hope that Macromedia is a better company to have CF at this stage of develoment than Computer Associates was when Clipper was purchased. DC - Original Message - From: "Chris Giminez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 15:54 Subject: Re: Is CF still relevant? I have only dabbled in other programming languages, but from what I can see, CF does most everything the others do, but does it easier. The high cost keeps it from being as popular as ASP and others. I know lots of developers who are spending lots of time learning PHP since the Enterprise version of CF is just too expensive to put on the server. There is just not enough demand for a higher priced account. Too bad Allaire/Macr... There are a lot of potential clients out there if it were just more affordable. Chris Giminez Cyber Scriber I probably should not join this particular thread because I will probably be seen as very biased BUT. But I am a relative newbie as an employee of Allaire now Macromedia. My experience with using ColdFusion and briefly trying ASP is more relevant since I have used ColdFusion since late 1995-96. In reality ColdFusion should have died long ago as it has an appreciable up front cost. But it did not die in the face of alternatives that have no up front costs. In fact rather than ceasing to exist it grew exponentially in use. Also, the ColdFusion community has never seemed small to me as I struggled with and was presented with solutions to challenging issues, time and time again. Now, we have the honeymoon and final marriage of Allaire and Macromedia. I do not know what will eventually come out of this but I do know it will be fed and nurtured with ideas from all the worldwide developers and users of both former Macromedia and Allaire products and I do know that we are only limited by our own imaginations. My personal opinion is that now would definitely be the wrong time to move away from ColdFusion for anyone with a desire to be involved in the future of the Internet and the Web. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Macromedia Consulting Tel 562.243.6255 Fax 401.696.4335 http://www.macromedia.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Is CF still relevant? Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This isn't so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step back and reevalutate things periodically. Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP, JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of CF's strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively small community; etc. Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house" (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or another non-CF solution? Why or why not? And how would we
Re: Is CF still relevant?
- Original Message - From: "David E. Crawford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 11:08 PM No one accused CF of being cheap to host but the fact is that it was never targeted to the individual developer. CF Enterprise is expensive, but I am sure others can attest to this -it is still possible to develop killer applications using CF Professional. CF may not be the best tool for the solo consultant, working hand to mouth on projects - but it is still What are the thoughts about the future competition from "ASP.NET" - especially since Macromedia will clearly have to support both CF and ASP.NET in one way or the other. I would always go with CF all things being equal, e.g. using my own servers, but a great irritation over here in Britain, is that most hosting providers for Windows NT/2000 will not support CF - only ASP. That means that is someone wants CF at a co-lo centre - it isn't good. To be controversial for a moment - maybe Macromedia should do a deal with Microsoft to integrate a version Cold Fusion services directly in the Windows 2000 O/S? After all - Macromedia are fundamentally a web development tool company, and M$ want to sell Windows 2000 to as many people as possible - and the market for CF developers expands many times. As an aside - anyone know of any good CF hosting companies over here? Otherwise, which are the best of the well connected ones in the US? Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
