Re: Automatic File List in Database
Option 2 or 3 could still work. They don't use verity at all. The question I usually ask when choosing db vs file based storage: Do you need to search through the items? Do you need to manipulate them quickly? If so, db is good. If not, where it is more a CFDIRECTORY married to some extra info, I prefer the file based solutions. I also find the file based solutions easier and quicker to change structurally. For example, my music collection of mp3s is sorted into directories by Genre, Artist, Album, Song. I have different xml info files in each directory which handle the extra info associated with each of these entity types. FWIW Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:39PM >>> NO VERITY. BlueDragon - Original Message - From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > Before you settle into a solution, what type of files are you talking about? > > I have solved this a couple of different ways. > > 1. Directories of htm and cfm and pdf files. I embedded extra tags in a comments section at the top of the file. > > Description Goes Here > This is the short line of text to display on listing pages > Jan 13, 2003 > dashdash> > > Then used Verity to search and retrieve these fields from the files, inlcuding path, URL, and these extra FIELDS. > > 2. Married each file with an info file stored in the same directory with the same name but extra extension. > > Jerry.jpg > Jerry.jpg.nfo > or > Jerry.jpg.txt > or > Jerry.jpg.xml > And then place all the "extra" info into that file. Easy to find. Easy to see when missing. > > 3. For those files with short simple desc, just add the desc to the filename or directory name. > > MA20030317_News Story_Boy Bitten By Dog.htm > > Just some ideas, > Jerry Johnson > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:23PM >>> > That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code? > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM > Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database > > > > > The file list holds images and drawings, which need > > > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There > > > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming > > > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and > > > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display > > > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing > > > the files is the main thing. > > > > If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the > > location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way > > you can reference it for those that it "needs" > > > > Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the > > information in the database > > > > Would that work? > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Automatic File List in Database
NO VERITY. BlueDragon - Original Message - From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > Before you settle into a solution, what type of files are you talking about? > > I have solved this a couple of different ways. > > 1. Directories of htm and cfm and pdf files. I embedded extra tags in a comments section at the top of the file. > > Description Goes Here > This is the short line of text to display on listing pages > Jan 13, 2003 > dashdash> > > Then used Verity to search and retrieve these fields from the files, inlcuding path, URL, and these extra FIELDS. > > 2. Married each file with an info file stored in the same directory with the same name but extra extension. > > Jerry.jpg > Jerry.jpg.nfo > or > Jerry.jpg.txt > or > Jerry.jpg.xml > And then place all the "extra" info into that file. Easy to find. Easy to see when missing. > > 3. For those files with short simple desc, just add the desc to the filename or directory name. > > MA20030317_News Story_Boy Bitten By Dog.htm > > Just some ideas, > Jerry Johnson > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:23PM >>> > That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code? > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM > Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database > > > > > The file list holds images and drawings, which need > > > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There > > > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming > > > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and > > > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display > > > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing > > > the files is the main thing. > > > > If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the > > location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way > > you can reference it for those that it "needs" > > > > Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the > > information in the database > > > > Would that work? > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Automatic File List in Database
Before you settle into a solution, what type of files are you talking about? I have solved this a couple of different ways. 1. Directories of htm and cfm and pdf files. I embedded extra tags in a comments section at the top of the file. Description Goes Here This is the short line of text to display on listing pages Jan 13, 2003 dashdash> Then used Verity to search and retrieve these fields from the files, inlcuding path, URL, and these extra FIELDS. 2. Married each file with an info file stored in the same directory with the same name but extra extension. Jerry.jpg Jerry.jpg.nfo or Jerry.jpg.txt or Jerry.jpg.xml And then place all the "extra" info into that file. Easy to find. Easy to see when missing. 3. For those files with short simple desc, just add the desc to the filename or directory name. MA20030317_News Story_Boy Bitten By Dog.htm Just some ideas, Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:23PM >>> That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code? - Original Message - From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database > > The file list holds images and drawings, which need > > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There > > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming > > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and > > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display > > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing > > the files is the main thing. > > If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the > location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way > you can reference it for those that it "needs" > > Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the > information in the database > > Would that work? > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Automatic File List in Database
> That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code? At this point, no, but I can put some code together later... If you've still got the problem by tomorrow morning, I'll see what I can do then ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Automatic File List in Database
That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code? - Original Message - From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database > > The file list holds images and drawings, which need > > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There > > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming > > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and > > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display > > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing > > the files is the main thing. > > If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the > location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way > you can reference it for those that it "needs" > > Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the > information in the database > > Would that work? > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Automatic File List in Database
For situations like this (uploaded files in a CMS, web-based FTP on steroids, etc), I make a table that stores a filename, title, description, and watever else, and then put put all the files in a single directory. Then when you want the file, you use the 'filename' field to go get it form the directory. The one caveat to make is that files added directly to the file system are never visible in the CF interface. Files must be added through the CF interface. This also lets you automatically rename files without the user needing to care if two people both want to upload 'my_picture.jpg'. There's no reason you couldn't make a scraper that'd scrape the file system looking for files not in the DB, and then add them with a null description if keeping things synched from that direction is important. HTH, barneyb --- Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice : 360.671.8708 x12 fax : 360.647.5351 www.audiencecentral.com > -Original Message- > From: Michael Pool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:07 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > > > The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions > in another > field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the files > have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with > paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and > display them > in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files > is the main > thing. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > > > > Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB? > Why not just > > use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always > current and > > there is no maintenance required. > > > > Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-) > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > t. 250.920.8830 > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > www.macromedia.com > > - > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > Founder & Director > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM > > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > > > > > > > Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store > it in the > > > database. To keep that list current is another matter. It depends on > how > > > current the list needs to be (or how often the files change). If it's > not > > > too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes > the > > > file list from the database and sticks in the current list > (same way you > > > would get it in the database initially). > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > > t. 250.920.8830 > > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > > www.macromedia.com > > > - > > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > > Founder & Director > > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM > > > Subject: Automatic File List in Database > > > > > > > > > > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file > names imported > > into > > > a > > > > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is > > > created? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Automatic File List in Database
> The file list holds images and drawings, which need > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing > the files is the main thing. If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way you can reference it for those that it "needs" Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the information in the database Would that work? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Automatic File List in Database
The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the files have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files is the main thing. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB? Why not just > use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always current and > there is no maintenance required. > > Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > > > > Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the > > database. To keep that list current is another matter. It depends on how > > current the list needs to be (or how often the files change). If it's not > > too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes the > > file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you > > would get it in the database initially). > > > > HTH > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > t. 250.920.8830 > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > www.macromedia.com > > - > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > Founder & Director > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM > > Subject: Automatic File List in Database > > > > > > > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported > into > > a > > > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is > > created? > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Automatic File List in Database
Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB? Why not just use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always current and there is no maintenance required. Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database > Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the > database. To keep that list current is another matter. It depends on how > current the list needs to be (or how often the files change). If it's not > too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes the > file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you > would get it in the database initially). > > HTH > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM > Subject: Automatic File List in Database > > > > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported into > a > > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is > created? > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Automatic File List in Database
Is performance a huge issue? If it's not, just use the database named 'the filesystem' and 'query' it with CFDIRECTORY rather than CFQUERY. If that won't work for whatever reason, you'd have to use a scheduled task to use CFDIRECTORY and refresh the database periodically. The former will result in instant updates with no administrative overhead, the latter will be faster for recalling, but cost to maintain the database. barneyb --- Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice : 360.671.8708 x12 fax : 360.647.5351 www.audiencecentral.com > -Original Message- > From: Michael Pool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Automatic File List in Database > > > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names > imported into a > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file > is created? > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Automatic File List in Database
Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the database. To keep that list current is another matter. It depends on how current the list needs to be (or how often the files change). If it's not too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes the file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you would get it in the database initially). HTH Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Automatic File List in Database > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported into a > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is created? > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
