RE: How are CFID and CFTOKEN generated

2000-08-27 Thread Steve Pierce

CF checks to see if it exists before creating them. - Steve


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I've asked this before, but have never gotten a decent answer. Does
anyone know? What stops two people from ending up with the same cfid
and cftoken? Anything? Or is it random luck?
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RE: How are CFID and CFTOKEN generated

2000-08-27 Thread Cameron Childress

The CFID is a number incremented by one each time a new one is needed.  How
does CF know a new one is needed?  Because Client or Session management is
turned on in the CFAPPLICATION tag, and CF didn't get one as a cookie, URL
or Form var when the page was called.

Really, a CFID should be all that is required to identify a session.
Unfortunately, that would make for a very insecure app because user's could
easily "guess" another session's CFID and hijack the session.  Therefore, a
CFTOKEN is used to make the CFID harder to guess.  The CFTOKEN is a randomly
generated number which provides security against someone guessing a CFID
number.  The CFID/CFTOKEN pair is very unique and hard to guess.

-Cameron


Cameron Childress
McRae Communications
p. 770-460-7277 x.232
f. 770-460-0963

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: How are CFID and CFTOKEN generated
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>
> I've asked this before, but have never gotten a decent answer. Does
> anyone know? What stops two people from ending up with the same cfid
> and cftoken? Anything? Or is it random luck?
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RE: How are CFID and CFTOKEN generated

2000-08-27 Thread Bud

On 8/27/00, Cameron Childress penned:
>The CFID is a number incremented by one each time a new one is needed.  How
>does CF know a new one is needed?  Because Client or Session management is
>turned on in the CFAPPLICATION tag, and CF didn't get one as a cookie, URL
>or Form var when the page was called.
>
>Really, a CFID should be all that is required to identify a session.
>Unfortunately, that would make for a very insecure app because user's could
>easily "guess" another session's CFID and hijack the session.  Therefore, a
>CFTOKEN is used to make the CFID harder to guess.  The CFTOKEN is a randomly
>generated number which provides security against someone guessing a CFID
>number.  The CFID/CFTOKEN pair is very unique and hard to guess.

Wonderful.

Thank you. :)
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RE: How are CFID and CFTOKEN generated

2000-08-27 Thread lsellers

> Really, a CFID should be all that is required to identify a session.
> Unfortunately, that would make for a very insecure app because
> user's could
> easily "guess" another session's CFID and hijack the session.
> Therefore, a
> CFTOKEN is used to make the CFID harder to guess.  The CFTOKEN is
> a randomly
> generated number which provides security against someone guessing a CFID
> number.  The CFID/CFTOKEN pair is very unique and hard to guess.
> -Cameron

Or, using an analogue, CFID is the "username" and CFTOKEN is the "password".
Same effect.

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