Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Mar 4, 2004, at 10:16 PM, Rob wrote:

>  Actually I would say its better then a lot of OSs out there wouldn't
>  you? :-D
>
>

That fact that some very smart non-Mac developers opt for PowerBooks 
seems to suggest this, too.

I honestly don't know -- I have never run win or Linux other than for a 
specific program or capability N/A on a Mac.

With OS X this much less an issue that with other Mac OSes -- Yes, I 
have purchased WinXP, and WinOffice. but I am using them less and less.

As to the performance, I didn't want to overstate, but during the day,  
  I also run some audio (radio streaming or iTunes) and one old Mac OS 9 
(classic) solitaire game.

The activity monitor currently shows 91 processes with 707 threads -- 
so there is quite a bit going on.

I have found that Safari (still my main browser) sometimes gets 
bogged-down if I have more than 20 Safari windows open -- depends on 
what they are doing.

Also, OS X comes with X11, so you can run X window applications.

It certainly meets all my needs.

Dick
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Rob
On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 09:20, Dick Applebaum wrote:
> I currently use a 17" PB (very early 1GHz model), Apple's 23" Studio 
> Flat panel Display, 360 Gig External Firewire HD's, wireless KB & 
> mouse.
Rob turns green with envy :-/ - you are a lucky man.

> --- CFMX 6.1 Developer
> --- JRun4 Developer
> --- Apache Webserver
> --- MySQL Server
> --- VirtualPC Win XP with real-time streaming client (Stock Market)
> --- Several Browsers & Versions (Safari, IE, Mozilla, FireFox) each 
> with multiple windows
> --- CFMX app that simulates (and outperforms) the Win XP real-time app.
> --- one or more SQL clients
> --- normal mix of desktop apps.
> --- Several IDE's -- currently experimenting with Eclipse.
> 
> No sweat!
Actually I would say its better then a lot of OSs out there wouldn't
you? :-D

There are also these:
http://www.aquafold.com/ - for MSSQL and Postgres administration
http://www.eclipse.org/ - for java

-- 
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Dick Applebaum
Stuart

I have been developing with CF since 1998 -- never used anything but a 
Mac.

I currently use a 17" PB (very early 1GHz model), Apple's 23" Studio 
Flat panel Display, 360 Gig External Firewire HD's, wireless KB & 
mouse.

The PB normally runs:

--- CFMX 6.1 Developer
--- JRun4 Developer
--- Apache Webserver
--- MySQL Server
--- VirtualPC Win XP with real-time streaming client (Stock Market)
--- Several Browsers & Versions (Safari, IE, Mozilla, FireFox) each 
with multiple windows
--- CFMX app that simulates (and outperforms) the Win XP real-time app.
--- one or more SQL clients
--- normal mix of desktop apps.
--- Several IDE's -- currently experimenting with Eclipse.

No sweat!

On Mar 15, 2004, at 3:19 AM, Stuart Kidd wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
>  I'm heading to Oz to see my family for a month and am stopping off in 
> LA (USA - home of cheap electronics for European citizens).
>
>  I am seriously thinking about snapping up a Powerbook while there as 
> the UK Stirling -> US Dollar exchange rate is pretty good.
>
>  Has anyone got a Powerbook who can tell me whether it's a tough 
> transition from a PC to a Powerbook for coding CF.
>
>  Currently i use Dreamweaver and have a remotely hosted CF website.

I never have really gotten into DreamWeaver or some of the other IDE's 
-- I use BBEdit (about $80, as I recall) and it is more flexible than 
the others (for example n windows open on both displays)

>
>  When I return to London i'll still have my PC desktop which i have 
> the free CF limited server.  I also have a wireless adsl modem/router 
> (Netgear) - will it be easy for my Powerbook to fit into that?
>

I would consider Apple's Airport Extreme for faster wireless (the PB 
will take advantage of it even if the other PC's don't)

Also, one of those Apple external firewire hard  disks -- the one that 
has speakers attached :)

>  Is there anything else I should know about, some even better tools 
> for the Apple with CF??
>

Most open-source db's and programs have OS X distros.

You can get free developer versions of most major databases (except 
MS-SQL and Access) for OS X.

OS X comes with most of what you need already installed (Apache, Mail, 
VPN) -- the rest is just a download away.

I would get as much HD as possible -- the free apps (iPhoto, iTunes, 
GarageBand...) tend to gobble up HD space.

>  Any help would be appreciated.

I upgraded from a 800MHz 15' TiBook to the 17" Powerbook.  The 
combination of the increased speed, faster memory, faster graphics 
engine and faster wireless gave a "Totally new experience"

surfing the web is really fast -- and everything looks so good!

HTH

Dick

Cheers,
>
>  Stuart
>
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread David Fafard
I believe with Win2k and 2003 server you get 2 (two)
free clients for Terminal Services. I guess it depends
on how many people will admin the server.. but I found
two is sufficient

Dave

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Kitta 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:48 AM
  Subject: RE: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

  Remote desktop is available for Mac, Linux and almost any PC running windows
  (If I remember correctly, minimum requirements are Win3.1, 386SX, 8Mb RAM).
  It is always free (but server part is not free, you need windows server
  software and for anything but Administrative mode you need a CAL).

  TK
    -Original Message-
    From: David Fafard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:21 AM
    To: CF-Talk
    Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

    If you admin a MS SQL server, and you have a VPN,
    Microsoft makes a great FREE terminal services client for Mac.

    watch the wrap:

  http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=remotedesk
  topclient

    Works great for me when I am using a powerbook.

    Dave

  - Original Message -
  From: stas
  To: CF-Talk
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

  What about database administration tools,  what do you use?

  - Original Message -
  From: "Ryan Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:25 AM
      Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

  > I "switched" about a year ago now, and havetn looked back.
  > If you're using dreamweaver there is very little difference in set
  up...
  > you install coldfusion mx 6.1 on top of jrun, and away you go.
  > your powerbook will fit right into your network, you will be able to
  > connect to your pc with no probs
  >
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RE: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Tom Kitta
Remote desktop is available for Mac, Linux and almost any PC running windows
(If I remember correctly, minimum requirements are Win3.1, 386SX, 8Mb RAM).
It is always free (but server part is not free, you need windows server
software and for anything but Administrative mode you need a CAL).

TK
  -Original Message-
  From: David Fafard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:21 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

  If you admin a MS SQL server, and you have a VPN,
  Microsoft makes a great FREE terminal services client for Mac.

  watch the wrap:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=remotedesk
topclient

  Works great for me when I am using a powerbook.

  Dave

    - Original Message -
    From: stas
    To: CF-Talk
    Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:39 AM
    Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

    What about database administration tools,  what do you use?

    - Original Message -
    From: "Ryan Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:25 AM
    Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

    > I "switched" about a year ago now, and havetn looked back.
    > If you're using dreamweaver there is very little difference in set
up...
    > you install coldfusion mx 6.1 on top of jrun, and away you go.
    > your powerbook will fit right into your network, you will be able to
    > connect to your pc with no probs
    >
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Ryan Mitchell
yep, i second that.

David Fafard wrote:

> If you admin a MS SQL server, and you have a VPN,
> Microsoft makes a great FREE terminal services client for Mac.
>
> watch the wrap:
> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=remotedesktopclient
>
> Works great for me when I am using a powerbook.
>
> Dave
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: stas
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:39 AM
>   Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion
>
>   What about database administration tools,  what do you use?
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: "Ryan Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:25 AM
>   Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion
>
>   > I "switched" about a year ago now, and havetn looked back.
>   > If you're using dreamweaver there is very little difference in set 
> up...
>   > you install coldfusion mx 6.1 on top of jrun, and away you go.
>   > your powerbook will fit right into your network, you will be able to
>   > connect to your pc with no probs
>   >
>
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread David Fafard
If you admin a MS SQL server, and you have a VPN,
Microsoft makes a great FREE terminal services client for Mac.

watch the wrap:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=remotedesktopclient

Works great for me when I am using a powerbook.

Dave

  - Original Message - 
  From: stas 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

  What about database administration tools,  what do you use?

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Ryan Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:25 AM
  Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

  > I "switched" about a year ago now, and havetn looked back.
  > If you're using dreamweaver there is very little difference in set up... 
  > you install coldfusion mx 6.1 on top of jrun, and away you go.
  > your powerbook will fit right into your network, you will be able to 
  > connect to your pc with no probs
  >
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Ryan Mitchell
i use mysql as my database, and found a freeware program called 
"YourSQL" to connect to it (also use phpmyadmin)... i've used navicat 
(mysql studio), but it costs for not much more in the features 
department in my book...

stas wrote:

> What about database administration tools,  what do you use?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion
>
> > I "switched" about a year ago now, and havetn looked back.
> > If you're using dreamweaver there is very little difference in set 
> up...
> > you install coldfusion mx 6.1 on top of jrun, and away you go.
> > your powerbook will fit right into your network, you will be able to
> > connect to your pc with no probs
> >
>
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread stas
What about database administration tools,  what do you use?

- Original Message - 
From: "Ryan Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

> I "switched" about a year ago now, and havetn looked back.
> If you're using dreamweaver there is very little difference in set up... 
> you install coldfusion mx 6.1 on top of jrun, and away you go.
> your powerbook will fit right into your network, you will be able to 
> connect to your pc with no probs
>
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Re: sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Ryan Mitchell
I "switched" about a year ago now, and havetn looked back.
If you're using dreamweaver there is very little difference in set up... 
you install coldfusion mx 6.1 on top of jrun, and away you go.
your powerbook will fit right into your network, you will be able to 
connect to your pc with no probs

Stuart Kidd wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm heading to Oz to see my family for a month and am stopping off in 
> LA (USA - home of cheap electronics for European citizens).
>
> I am seriously thinking about snapping up a Powerbook while there as 
> the UK Stirling -> US Dollar exchange rate is pretty good.
>
> Has anyone got a Powerbook who can tell me whether it's a tough 
> transition from a PC to a Powerbook for coding CF.
>
> Currently i use Dreamweaver and have a remotely hosted CF website.
>
> When I return to London i'll still have my PC desktop which i have the 
> free CF limited server.  I also have a wireless adsl modem/router 
> (Netgear) - will it be easy for my Powerbook to fit into that?
>
> Is there anything else I should know about, some even better tools for 
> the Apple with CF??
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stuart
>
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sot: Powerbooks and Coldfusion

2004-03-15 Thread Stuart Kidd
Hi guys,

I'm heading to Oz to see my family for a month and am stopping off in LA (USA - home of cheap electronics for European citizens).

I am seriously thinking about snapping up a Powerbook while there as the UK Stirling -> US Dollar exchange rate is pretty good.

Has anyone got a Powerbook who can tell me whether it's a tough transition from a PC to a Powerbook for coding CF.

Currently i use Dreamweaver and have a remotely hosted CF website.

When I return to London i'll still have my PC desktop which i have the free CF limited server.  I also have a wireless adsl modem/router (Netgear) - will it be easy for my Powerbook to fit into that?

Is there anything else I should know about, some even better tools for the Apple with CF??

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Stuart
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