[cfaussie] Re: SQL Injection in CF

2006-06-06 Thread Tom Kerr

On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:17:24PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Read a good article on SQL Injection attacks today:
> http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/sql-injection.html
> 
> I've always been under the impression that quoted form fields are safe
> from SQL injection attacks because CF automatically escapes single
> quotes. So if you have some SQL like this:
> SELECT firstname,surname FROM users
> WHERE firstname = '#form.firstname#'
> it won't really matter if someone tries to put some dodgy SQL into
> form.firstname because any ' character they enter will be turned into
> '' so everything they type will remain quoted.
> 
> However, according to the article this can be trivially defeated in
> some dbs like MySQL by escaping a single quote with the \ character.
> 
> I have a couple of questions:
> 1. Is this really a problem for MySQL or does CF have some other escape
> mechanism?
> 2. Is there any way of causing this problem in SQL Server?

Yeah, this issue can definitely come up with MSSQL.  I can't give a
comprehensive overview of when it's an issue, but I can provide an
example.  As of CF6.1 at least, quotes won't be escaped in the return
value of a function.  Thus something like:

SELECT foo FROM bar
WHERE baz = '#quux(FORM.value)#'

can be open to injection attacks, unless quux() does some escaping of
its own.

Using  seems to be pretty bulletproof, but is not always
practical.  It is, however, the most common protection against this sort
of vulnerability.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :)

-T

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[cfaussie] Re: SQL Injection in CF

2006-06-06 Thread Chris Velevitch

Regardless of which database you're using, always use cfqueryparam on
data coming into a query.


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[cfaussie] Re: SQL Injection in CF

2006-06-06 Thread Barry Beattie

ahem!

"cfqueryparam"

always!!!

(except for some "select into..." which won't work)

On 6/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Read a good article on SQL Injection attacks today:
> http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/sql-injection.html
>
> I've always been under the impression that quoted form fields are safe
> from SQL injection attacks because CF automatically escapes single
> quotes. So if you have some SQL like this:
> SELECT firstname,surname FROM users
> WHERE firstname = '#form.firstname#'
> it won't really matter if someone tries to put some dodgy SQL into
> form.firstname because any ' character they enter will be turned into
> '' so everything they type will remain quoted.
>
> However, according to the article this can be trivially defeated in
> some dbs like MySQL by escaping a single quote with the \ character.
>
> I have a couple of questions:
> 1. Is this really a problem for MySQL or does CF have some other escape
> mechanism?
> 2. Is there any way of causing this problem in SQL Server?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Tim
>
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: SQL Injection in CF

2006-06-06 Thread Blair McKenzie
For complete safety from SQL injection in CF you should use cfqueryparam to insert values into the query. I don't know if there are MySQL quirks which make this less effective, but I doubt it.Blair
On 6/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Folks,Read a good article on SQL Injection attacks today:http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/sql-injection.htmlI've always been under the impression that quoted form fields are safe
from SQL injection attacks because CF automatically escapes singlequotes. So if you have some SQL like this:SELECT firstname,surname FROM usersWHERE firstname = '#form.firstname#'it won't really matter if someone tries to put some dodgy SQL into
form.firstname because any ' character they enter will be turned into'' so everything they type will remain quoted.However, according to the article this can be trivially defeated insome dbs like MySQL by escaping a single quote with the \ character.
I have a couple of questions:1. Is this really a problem for MySQL or does CF have some other escapemechanism?2. Is there any way of causing this problem in SQL Server?Thanks in advance
Tim
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[cfaussie] SQL Injection in CF

2006-06-06 Thread t_mcauliffe

Hi Folks,

Read a good article on SQL Injection attacks today:
http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/sql-injection.html

I've always been under the impression that quoted form fields are safe
from SQL injection attacks because CF automatically escapes single
quotes. So if you have some SQL like this:
SELECT firstname,surname FROM users
WHERE firstname = '#form.firstname#'
it won't really matter if someone tries to put some dodgy SQL into
form.firstname because any ' character they enter will be turned into
'' so everything they type will remain quoted.

However, according to the article this can be trivially defeated in
some dbs like MySQL by escaping a single quote with the \ character.

I have a couple of questions:
1. Is this really a problem for MySQL or does CF have some other escape
mechanism?
2. Is there any way of causing this problem in SQL Server?

Thanks in advance

Tim


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[cfaussie] Re: [OT] File upload with Ajax

2006-06-06 Thread M@ Bourke
can be creative and use an iframe or something

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[cfaussie] Re: [OT] File upload with Ajax

2006-06-06 Thread Blair McKenzie
I know that gmail does it with attachments. Don't know how it's done though.BlairOn 6/7/06, Taco Fleur <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Is there any way to upload a file with AJAX?

I know you can POST data with AJAX, just not sure whether you can upload a file, and if you can, how?
 
I had it working with a hidden iframe, but that becomes a pain once you start dealing with several file uploads on one page.-- Taco Fleur - 
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[cfaussie] [OT] File upload with Ajax

2006-06-06 Thread Taco Fleur
Is there any way to upload a file with AJAX?
I know you can POST data with AJAX, just not sure whether you can upload a file, and if you can, how?
 
I had it working with a hidden iframe, but that becomes a pain once you start dealing with several file uploads on one page.-- Taco Fleur - http://www.pacificfox.com.au
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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Live Chat Functionality

2006-06-06 Thread Paul B

Live Chat are one of the best.. http://www.liveperson.com/.

The only issue is you have to contact them for pricing, they don't list
it on the site.  Very annoying but the product is great!


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[cfaussie] Re: Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions

2006-06-06 Thread Rod Higgins
    sessionTracker = createObject("java", "coldfusion.runtime.SessionTracker");
    // once created maybe something like the cleanUp() function
    // but it depends on how your ending the sessions sessionTracker.cleanUp();

This might send you on the right path 
 
hth
Rod 
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Thanks guys,Didn't work, although I think I had tried that once before. Thanks foryour help nevertheless.
jeremy
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[cfaussie] OT: Live Chat Functionality

2006-06-06 Thread Dale Fraser








Anyone recommend or provide any info on providers of
Live Chat for a website?



Regards
Dale Fraser



 




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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Skillbulder

2006-06-06 Thread Lucas
thanks for that dale, I was actualy more after it for historic reasons more than anything else...L.On 6/7/06, Dale Fraser <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:














http://www.learnwebdevelopment.com/intro_to_coldfusion_mx.html


 

 











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Oh Damm! I was looking
for one of them about a week ago - if you get one, I would love a copy!!

Lucas.



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Onnis <
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Does anyone have a copy of the old Coldfusion Skill Builder
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[cfaussie] Re: Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions

2006-06-06 Thread

Thanks guys,

Didn't work, although I think I had tried that once before. Thanks for
your help nevertheless. 

jeremy


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[cfaussie] Re: Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions

2006-06-06 Thread Charlie Arehart

Do you know for sure that your CFSET of the cookies is indeed causing them
to be set as memory-only cookies on the client? That's certainly what you
want to achieve, to make it so that the cookies are not stored on disk for
the default of a very long time. That way, when the browser is closed the
cookie should be lost.

If the CFSET isn't doing it, you could certainly do CFCOOKIE without an
EXPIRES attribute, which makes it create a memory-only cookie.

But here's another issue: are you ensuring that all browser instances are
closed? Depending on what browser's in use, and how multiple browser windows
are opened, it may be that ALL instances of the browser need to be closed.
In Firefox, that's true. In IE, it depends: if you open a new window with
File>New Window, it will share the memory for sessions with its ancestor
window. If you open it with Start>Programs>IE, or by clicking the IE icon in
the quick launch tray, or by executing the IE shortcut any other way, then
that creates an independent instance of IE with its own memory.

Of course, the session continues to exist on the server. The question is
simply how long the client cookie remains in the browser. If the last
instance of a given browser with a given memory-only cookie is closed, then
when a new browser window is opened, it has no previous cookie (CFID or
CFTOKEN) and therefore the server creates a new one and so there's no longer
a connection with that previous session and it will be terminated at the
given session timeout.

/charlie

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Of 
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 8:49 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Kill them all --- ALL sessions


Howdy people,

I have found a tiny issue with our application. When we close the browser it
doesn't release the application. i.e. the session doesn't seem to clear.

1. Is there a way to totally blow away all sessions when the browser closes.
prefer not to call another page using javascript if we can get away with it.

2. Does Application.cfc have any abilities to cater for this?

3. Any other ideas.

Its becoming serious issue. Below is a little snippet of our Application.cfm
pretty standard stuff.







Jeremy





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[cfaussie] Re: Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions

2006-06-06 Thread Dale Fraser

Yes,

Use this









This is pretty standard I think everyone has this bit of code in
application.cfm

Or like us in OnRequestStart of application.cfc

Regards
Dale Fraser



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Of 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2006 10:49 AM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Kill them all --- ALL sessions


Howdy people,

I have found a tiny issue with our application. When we close the
browser it doesn't release the application. i.e. the session doesn't
seem to clear.

1. Is there a way to totally blow away all sessions when the browser
closes. prefer not to call another page using javascript if we can get
away with it.

2. Does Application.cfc have any abilities to cater for this?

3. Any other ideas.

Its becoming serious issue. Below is a little snippet of our
Application.cfm pretty standard stuff.







Jeremy




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[cfaussie] Re: Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions

2006-06-06 Thread Haikal Saadh

That's sort of normal for sessions, isn't it? They don't actually expire 
till the a certain timeout elapses _after_ the browser closes. You could 
try tweaking the timeout to be something shorter, just be aware that you 
should allow users ample time to do their thing. (I often have things 
sitting in background tabs for quite a while)

 wrote:
> Howdy people,
> 
> I have found a tiny issue with our application. When we close the
> browser it doesn't release the application. i.e. the session doesn't
> seem to clear.
> 
> 1. Is there a way to totally blow away all sessions when the browser
> closes. prefer not to call another page using javascript if we can get
> away with it.
> 
> 2. Does Application.cfc have any abilities to cater for this?
> 
> 3. Any other ideas.
> 
> Its becoming serious issue. Below is a little snippet of our
> Application.cfm pretty standard stuff.
> 
> name="Validator_2_3_DEV"
>sessionmanagement="yes"
>   setclientcookies = "true"
>   sessiontimeout="#CreateTimeSpan(0,1,0,0)#"
>clientmanagement="true">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
> > 
> 


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[cfaussie] Looking for a CFUG Presenter? Get me via Breeze!

2006-06-06 Thread Haikal Saadh

Hi all

Have you seen this off the 'goog? Reckon it might be worth asking to see 
if he'll stay awake to give us a presso during our hours? Heck, if it's 
breeze, it wouldn't even have to be during our regular meeting, would it?

I'd be interested in seeing the one on patterns (I love patterns :D) and 
wouldn't mind seeing subversion actually in action, either.

Cheers.

 From 
http://blog.maestropublishing.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=86C22C1A-D5F9-FD90-9D2DBFCFAED9DE09


-
Are you a CFUG manager and need presenters? Then get in contact with me! 
Alright, I know this is a little over the top, but just wanted to let 
everybody know that I'm available to do a few different CFUG 
presentations via Breeze.

Here are the presentations I'm willing to do:


 * Head-First Mach-II

 * Design Pattern Safari (an overview of the type of CFCs you'll 
probably use in ColdFusion OOP type applications)

 * Source Code Control (basically a Subversion presentation)

 * Overview of Google Analytics

 * Using LylaCaptcha

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[cfaussie] Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions

2006-06-06 Thread

Howdy people,

I have found a tiny issue with our application. When we close the
browser it doesn't release the application. i.e. the session doesn't
seem to clear.

1. Is there a way to totally blow away all sessions when the browser
closes. prefer not to call another page using javascript if we can get
away with it.

2. Does Application.cfc have any abilities to cater for this?

3. Any other ideas.

Its becoming serious issue. Below is a little snippet of our
Application.cfm pretty standard stuff.







Jeremy


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[cfaussie] Re: [OT] Log Analysis

2006-06-06 Thread Dale Fraser








Always partial to WebTrends myself. IIS sentric I
think

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 











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Analysis



 



What is the best log analysis software these days?





It used to be deepmatrix I believe, but last time I looked their
software was overpriced..

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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Skillbulder

2006-06-06 Thread Dale Fraser








http://www.learnwebdevelopment.com/intro_to_coldfusion_mx.html

 

 











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Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2006 9:17 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion
Skillbulder



 

Oh Damm! I was looking
for one of them about a week ago - if you get one, I would love a copy!!

Lucas.



On 6/6/06, Steve
Onnis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Does anyone have a copy of the old Coldfusion Skill Builder
CD or know of where I can get one from?





 





Steve



 



 








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[cfaussie] Re: Recursion too deep; the stack overflowed'

2006-06-06 Thread Taco Fleur
I seem to have no luck with CFMX7 at all.
Uinstalled the JRUN install and installed the stand alone to fix the CFMAIL problem I had earlier, that problem is fixed now. But now I am having these "Recursion to deep" errors, after refreshing I get "invalid access to memory location" and then a couple of more refreshes and the sites work. 

It does not appear to be just one site, it's all sites 
On 6/6/06, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It seems to be only upon the first request made after a server restart..

On 6/6/06, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 


I keep getting this error "Recursion too deep; the stack overflowed' " when accessing CF sites on a new install (always something).
 
Everything points to a JRUN installation when doing a goole search, but its not the JRUN install... Anyone experienced this before?-- Taco Fleur - 
http://www.pacificfox.com.au Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutionsan industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 … 
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[cfaussie] [OT] Log Analysis

2006-06-06 Thread Taco Fleur
What is the best log analysis software these days?
It used to be deepmatrix I believe, but last time I looked their software was overpriced..-- Taco Fleur - http://www.pacificfox.com.au Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutions
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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Skillbulder

2006-06-06 Thread Lucas
Oh Damm! I was looking for one of them about a week ago - if you get one, I would love a copy!!Lucas.On 6/6/06, Steve Onnis <
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Does anyone have a 
copy of the old Coldfusion Skill Builder CD or know of where I can get one 
from?
 
Steve




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[cfaussie] Re: Recursion too deep; the stack overflowed'

2006-06-06 Thread Taco Fleur
It seems to be only upon the first request made after a server restart..
On 6/6/06, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I keep getting this error "Recursion too deep; the stack overflowed' " when accessing CF sites on a new install (always something).
 
Everything points to a JRUN installation when doing a goole search, but its not the JRUN install... Anyone experienced this before?-- Taco Fleur - 
http://www.pacificfox.com.au Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutionsan industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 … 
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[cfaussie] Recursion too deep; the stack overflowed'

2006-06-06 Thread Taco Fleur
I keep getting this error "Recursion too deep; the stack overflowed' " when accessing CF sites on a new install (always something).
 
Everything points to a JRUN installation when doing a goole search, but its not the JRUN install... Anyone experienced this before?-- Taco Fleur - http://www.pacificfox.com.au
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[cfaussie] Re: CFMX7 still

2006-06-06 Thread Taco Fleur
I am using a single instance, but I can setup another instance and give it a go. thanks.
 
On 6/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
are you using single instance? do other instances have the samebehavior?maybe try create another instance, then if it's working move the
site(s) to the new instance.Taco Fleur wrote:> OK, I emailed about this problem to the list a week ago and still have not> found a solution to the problem, had someone else to replicate the problem
> on a CFMX7 install as well. Which makes me think "surely there are others> out there running or have run into the same problem?">> Running a simple > subject="some subject"> statement produces a NULL POINTER error.> Has anyone else run into this?>> thanks>> --> Taco Fleur - 
http://www.pacificfox.com.au> Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutions> an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ...>> --=_Part_28995_19683244.1149485685667
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable> X-Google-AttachSize: 881>> OK, I emailed about this problem to the list a week ago and still have not found a solution to the problem, had someone else to replicate the problem on a CFMX7 install as well. Which makes me think "surely there are others out there running or have run into the same problem?"
> >  > Running a simple  statement produces a NULL POINTER error. Has anyone else run into this?
> >  > thanks-- Taco Fleur - http://www.pacificfox.com.au
">http://www.pacificfox.com.au Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutionsan industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ...
> >> --=_Part_28995_19683244.1149485685667 Taco Fleur - http://www.pacificfox.com.au Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutionsan industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 … 

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[cfaussie] Re: CFMX7 still

2006-06-06 Thread dawesi


are you using single instance? do other instances have the same
behavior?

maybe try create another instance, then if it's working move the
site(s) to the new instance.

Taco Fleur wrote:

> OK, I emailed about this problem to the list a week ago and still have not
> found a solution to the problem, had someone else to replicate the problem
> on a CFMX7 install as well. Which makes me think "surely there are others
> out there running or have run into the same problem?"
>
> Running a simple  subject="some subject"> statement produces a NULL POINTER error.
> Has anyone else run into this?
>
> thanks
>
> --
> Taco Fleur - http://www.pacificfox.com.au
> Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutions
> an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ...
>
> --=_Part_28995_19683244.1149485685667
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> X-Google-AttachSize: 881
>
> OK, I emailed about this problem to the list a week ago and still have 
> not found a solution to the problem, had someone else to replicate the 
> problem on a CFMX7 install as well. Which makes me think "surely there 
> are others out there running or have run into the same problem?"
> 
>  
> Running a simple  to="valid email address" subject="some 
> subject"> statement produces a NULL POINTER error. Has 
> anyone else run into this?
> 
>  
> thanks-- Taco Fleur -  href="http://www.pacificfox.com.au";>http://www.pacificfox.com.au Web 
> Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutionsan 
> industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ...
> 
> 
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