Re: [freenet-chat] Freenet & China
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 05:59:25PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It isn't on a predetermined port - is it? Hmm. Good point. I wonder how long until they start doing application proxy only access... Depends on the cost/benefit ratio I suppose... > > Ian. > > On 1 Sep 2004, at 17:55, Toad wrote: > > >On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 05:54:20PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>Hash: SHA1 > >> > >>Well, this was the whole point of the distribution servlet. > > > >Which will be blocked at every transparent proxy. If we're lucky they > >don't have the hardware to block within an ISP yet. > >> > >>Ian. > >> > >>On 1 Sep 2004, at 17:48, Toad wrote: > >> > >>>Hmm. The current scheme blocks any web page that includes any of the > >>>below > >>>words, correct? They'll just have to download it through an SSL > >>>proxy, > >>>or share it internally... I'm sure there are chinese groups quite > >>>capable of redistributing Freenet. > >>> > >>>On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:09:37AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > From > http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/chinadn/en/archives/ > 002885.html > : > > >It is an open secret that all Chinese Internet hosting services, > >including wireless and instant messenger services, filter user > >communication through key word blocking mechanisms. But overly > >vague > >and broad Chinese internet laws and the internet police force never > >made the forbidden words explicit -- Not until some Chinese hackers > >located a document within the installation package of QQ instant > >messaging software. The file contains over one thousand words, most > >of > >them in Chinese, which will be blocked by the service. > ...snip... > > > >From Program Files\Tencent\QQGame\COMToolKit.dll: > > > >falun > >sex > >tianwang > >cdjp > >av > >bignews > >boxun > >chinaliberal > >chinamz > >chinesenewsnet > >cnd > >creaders > >dafa > >dajiyuan > >dfdz > >dpp > >falu > >falun > >falundafa > >flg > >freechina > >freedom > >freenet < Nice to know they care > >fuck > >GCD > >gcd > >hongzhi > >hrichina > >huanet > >hypermart > >incest > >jiangdongriji > >lihongzhi > >making > >minghui > >minghuinews > >nacb > >naive > >nmis > >paper > >peacehall > >playboy > >renminbao > >renmingbao > >rfa > >safeweb > >sex > >simple > >svdc > >taip > >tibetalk > >triangle > >triangleboy > >UltraSurf > >unixbox > >ustibet > >voa > >voachinese > >wangce > >wstaiji > >xinsheng > >yuming > >zhengjian > >zhengjianwang > >zhenshanren > >zhuanfalun > >bitch > >fuck > >shit > > > ...snip Chinese words... > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFBNXWxQtgxRWSmsqwRApbgAJ4x1YaoFwQONIvl9jKpWR53IHK+swCdEeuL > Gap605JvTTURf5SvROdVXuM= > =3Fr0 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > chat mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > >>>ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >>Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > >> > >>iD8DBQFBNf68QtgxRWSmsqwRAtBkAJ4hob3thG6m0ixduzx5ld4azAUAagCdHakv > >>cn4MKD+znns++psJhKOqvUM= > >>=GpX/ > >>-END PGP SIGNATURE- > >> > >>___ > >>chat mailing list > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > > > >-- > >Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > >ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFBNf/tQtgxRWSmsqwRAoF2AJ9aG7EygQbpbnl79hyieEeVDZQroQCfV4C9 > GpXo+OHLmGZlAkRbu37hIek= > =7fOl > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > chat mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
Re: [freenet-chat] Freenet & China
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It isn't on a predetermined port - is it? Ian. On 1 Sep 2004, at 17:55, Toad wrote: On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 05:54:20PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, this was the whole point of the distribution servlet. Which will be blocked at every transparent proxy. If we're lucky they don't have the hardware to block within an ISP yet. Ian. On 1 Sep 2004, at 17:48, Toad wrote: Hmm. The current scheme blocks any web page that includes any of the below words, correct? They'll just have to download it through an SSL proxy, or share it internally... I'm sure there are chinese groups quite capable of redistributing Freenet. On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:09:37AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/chinadn/en/archives/ 002885.html : It is an open secret that all Chinese Internet hosting services, including wireless and instant messenger services, filter user communication through key word blocking mechanisms. But overly vague and broad Chinese internet laws and the internet police force never made the forbidden words explicit -- Not until some Chinese hackers located a document within the installation package of QQ instant messaging software. The file contains over one thousand words, most of them in Chinese, which will be blocked by the service. ...snip... From Program Files\Tencent\QQGame\COMToolKit.dll: falun sex tianwang cdjp av bignews boxun chinaliberal chinamz chinesenewsnet cnd creaders dafa dajiyuan dfdz dpp falu falun falundafa flg freechina freedom freenet < Nice to know they care fuck GCD gcd hongzhi hrichina huanet hypermart incest jiangdongriji lihongzhi making minghui minghuinews nacb naive nmis paper peacehall playboy renminbao renmingbao rfa safeweb sex simple svdc taip tibetalk triangle triangleboy UltraSurf unixbox ustibet voa voachinese wangce wstaiji xinsheng yuming zhengjian zhengjianwang zhenshanren zhuanfalun bitch fuck shit ...snip Chinese words... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBNXWxQtgxRWSmsqwRApbgAJ4x1YaoFwQONIvl9jKpWR53IHK+swCdEeuL Gap605JvTTURf5SvROdVXuM= =3Fr0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBNf68QtgxRWSmsqwRAtBkAJ4hob3thG6m0ixduzx5ld4azAUAagCdHakv cn4MKD+znns++psJhKOqvUM= =GpX/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBNf/tQtgxRWSmsqwRAoF2AJ9aG7EygQbpbnl79hyieEeVDZQroQCfV4C9 GpXo+OHLmGZlAkRbu37hIek= =7fOl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
Re: [freenet-chat] Freenet & China
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 05:54:20PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Well, this was the whole point of the distribution servlet. Which will be blocked at every transparent proxy. If we're lucky they don't have the hardware to block within an ISP yet. > > Ian. > > On 1 Sep 2004, at 17:48, Toad wrote: > > >Hmm. The current scheme blocks any web page that includes any of the > >below > >words, correct? They'll just have to download it through an SSL proxy, > >or share it internally... I'm sure there are chinese groups quite > >capable of redistributing Freenet. > > > >On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:09:37AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>Hash: SHA1 > >> > >>From > >>http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/chinadn/en/archives/ > >>002885.html > >>: > >> > >>>It is an open secret that all Chinese Internet hosting services, > >>>including wireless and instant messenger services, filter user > >>>communication through key word blocking mechanisms. But overly vague > >>>and broad Chinese internet laws and the internet police force never > >>>made the forbidden words explicit -- Not until some Chinese hackers > >>>located a document within the installation package of QQ instant > >>>messaging software. The file contains over one thousand words, most > >>>of > >>>them in Chinese, which will be blocked by the service. > >>...snip... > >>> > >>>From Program Files\Tencent\QQGame\COMToolKit.dll: > >>> > >>>falun > >>>sex > >>>tianwang > >>>cdjp > >>>av > >>>bignews > >>>boxun > >>>chinaliberal > >>>chinamz > >>>chinesenewsnet > >>>cnd > >>>creaders > >>>dafa > >>>dajiyuan > >>>dfdz > >>>dpp > >>>falu > >>>falun > >>>falundafa > >>>flg > >>>freechina > >>>freedom > >>>freenet < Nice to know they care > >>>fuck > >>>GCD > >>>gcd > >>>hongzhi > >>>hrichina > >>>huanet > >>>hypermart > >>>incest > >>>jiangdongriji > >>>lihongzhi > >>>making > >>>minghui > >>>minghuinews > >>>nacb > >>>naive > >>>nmis > >>>paper > >>>peacehall > >>>playboy > >>>renminbao > >>>renmingbao > >>>rfa > >>>safeweb > >>>sex > >>>simple > >>>svdc > >>>taip > >>>tibetalk > >>>triangle > >>>triangleboy > >>>UltraSurf > >>>unixbox > >>>ustibet > >>>voa > >>>voachinese > >>>wangce > >>>wstaiji > >>>xinsheng > >>>yuming > >>>zhengjian > >>>zhengjianwang > >>>zhenshanren > >>>zhuanfalun > >>>bitch > >>>fuck > >>>shit > >>> > >>...snip Chinese words... > >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >>Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > >> > >>iD8DBQFBNXWxQtgxRWSmsqwRApbgAJ4x1YaoFwQONIvl9jKpWR53IHK+swCdEeuL > >>Gap605JvTTURf5SvROdVXuM= > >>=3Fr0 > >>-END PGP SIGNATURE- > >> > >>___ > >>chat mailing list > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > > > >-- > >Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > >ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFBNf68QtgxRWSmsqwRAtBkAJ4hob3thG6m0ixduzx5ld4azAUAagCdHakv > cn4MKD+znns++psJhKOqvUM= > =GpX/ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > chat mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
Re: [freenet-chat] Freenet & China
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, this was the whole point of the distribution servlet. Ian. On 1 Sep 2004, at 17:48, Toad wrote: Hmm. The current scheme blocks any web page that includes any of the below words, correct? They'll just have to download it through an SSL proxy, or share it internally... I'm sure there are chinese groups quite capable of redistributing Freenet. On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:09:37AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/chinadn/en/archives/ 002885.html : It is an open secret that all Chinese Internet hosting services, including wireless and instant messenger services, filter user communication through key word blocking mechanisms. But overly vague and broad Chinese internet laws and the internet police force never made the forbidden words explicit -- Not until some Chinese hackers located a document within the installation package of QQ instant messaging software. The file contains over one thousand words, most of them in Chinese, which will be blocked by the service. ...snip... From Program Files\Tencent\QQGame\COMToolKit.dll: falun sex tianwang cdjp av bignews boxun chinaliberal chinamz chinesenewsnet cnd creaders dafa dajiyuan dfdz dpp falu falun falundafa flg freechina freedom freenet < Nice to know they care fuck GCD gcd hongzhi hrichina huanet hypermart incest jiangdongriji lihongzhi making minghui minghuinews nacb naive nmis paper peacehall playboy renminbao renmingbao rfa safeweb sex simple svdc taip tibetalk triangle triangleboy UltraSurf unixbox ustibet voa voachinese wangce wstaiji xinsheng yuming zhengjian zhengjianwang zhenshanren zhuanfalun bitch fuck shit ...snip Chinese words... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBNXWxQtgxRWSmsqwRApbgAJ4x1YaoFwQONIvl9jKpWR53IHK+swCdEeuL Gap605JvTTURf5SvROdVXuM= =3Fr0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBNf68QtgxRWSmsqwRAtBkAJ4hob3thG6m0ixduzx5ld4azAUAagCdHakv cn4MKD+znns++psJhKOqvUM= =GpX/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
Re: [freenet-chat] Freenet & China
Hmm. The current scheme blocks any web page that includes any of the below words, correct? They'll just have to download it through an SSL proxy, or share it internally... I'm sure there are chinese groups quite capable of redistributing Freenet. On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:09:37AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > From > http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/chinadn/en/archives/002885.html > : > > >It is an open secret that all Chinese Internet hosting services, > >including wireless and instant messenger services, filter user > >communication through key word blocking mechanisms. But overly vague > >and broad Chinese internet laws and the internet police force never > >made the forbidden words explicit -- Not until some Chinese hackers > >located a document within the installation package of QQ instant > >messaging software. The file contains over one thousand words, most of > >them in Chinese, which will be blocked by the service. > ...snip... > > > >From Program Files\Tencent\QQGame\COMToolKit.dll: > > > > falun > > sex > > tianwang > > cdjp > > av > > bignews > > boxun > > chinaliberal > > chinamz > > chinesenewsnet > > cnd > > creaders > > dafa > > dajiyuan > > dfdz > > dpp > > falu > > falun > > falundafa > > flg > > freechina > > freedom > > freenet < Nice to know they care > > fuck > > GCD > > gcd > > hongzhi > > hrichina > > huanet > > hypermart > > incest > > jiangdongriji > > lihongzhi > > making > > minghui > > minghuinews > > nacb > > naive > > nmis > > paper > > peacehall > > playboy > > renminbao > > renmingbao > > rfa > > safeweb > > sex > > simple > > svdc > > taip > > tibetalk > > triangle > > triangleboy > > UltraSurf > > unixbox > > ustibet > > voa > > voachinese > > wangce > > wstaiji > > xinsheng > > yuming > > zhengjian > > zhengjianwang > > zhenshanren > > zhuanfalun > > bitch > > fuck > > shit > > > ...snip Chinese words... > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFBNXWxQtgxRWSmsqwRApbgAJ4x1YaoFwQONIvl9jKpWR53IHK+swCdEeuL > Gap605JvTTURf5SvROdVXuM= > =3Fr0 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > chat mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
Re: [freenet-chat] Questions from a potential client writer
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 09:13:11PM -0400, Nick Tarleton wrote: > > Every new endeavour is worth pursuing. If you don't pursue your dreams > > because it might upset somebody, somewhere, at some point in the future, > > then you might as well lay down and let life pass you by. Millions of > > people went to war and gave their lives to preserve those freedoms - > > don't let their efforts be in vain. > A rousing speech, and something I'll try to take to heart. I'm not being > sarcastic. > > But having seen http://www.eff.org/cgi/tiny?urlID=235, I think I may just try > this. Does anyone know more about this and what it would mean for a Freenet > client developer? That URL doesn't work for me. Is that the IAAL page? -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
[freenet-chat] Freenet & China
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/chinadn/en/archives/002885.html : It is an open secret that all Chinese Internet hosting services, including wireless and instant messenger services, filter user communication through key word blocking mechanisms. But overly vague and broad Chinese internet laws and the internet police force never made the forbidden words explicit -- Not until some Chinese hackers located a document within the installation package of QQ instant messaging software. The file contains over one thousand words, most of them in Chinese, which will be blocked by the service. ...snip... From Program Files\Tencent\QQGame\COMToolKit.dll: falun sex tianwang cdjp av bignews boxun chinaliberal chinamz chinesenewsnet cnd creaders dafa dajiyuan dfdz dpp falu falun falundafa flg freechina freedom freenet < Nice to know they care fuck GCD gcd hongzhi hrichina huanet hypermart incest jiangdongriji lihongzhi making minghui minghuinews nacb naive nmis paper peacehall playboy renminbao renmingbao rfa safeweb sex simple svdc taip tibetalk triangle triangleboy UltraSurf unixbox ustibet voa voachinese wangce wstaiji xinsheng yuming zhengjian zhengjianwang zhenshanren zhuanfalun bitch fuck shit ...snip Chinese words... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBNXWxQtgxRWSmsqwRApbgAJ4x1YaoFwQONIvl9jKpWR53IHK+swCdEeuL Gap605JvTTURf5SvROdVXuM= =3Fr0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
[freenet-chat] So, what's up?
What's with the lists? There is hardly anything new on it, while I would have expected a lot of posts due to the new quequeing thingy. Well, I'll be the first to comment, then: it doesn't look like it has done much to improve things. (yes, yes; give it some more time, the network has to settle down, there are too many old nodes still around, yadayada...) But basically, thus, it didn't improve things. So, what's next on the program? Surely, there is a 1130th idea for a way to make NGR work? Or...we could finally start on the testnetwork, so we can actually have a chance to see how the network works and why NGR doesn't. Then, maybe, we can try systematically to correct things, instead of just haphazardly trying out stuff. Just an idea. ___ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general