RE: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
All depends on how much experience you have with Cisco products and overall network knowledge. If your looking for a career change and plan on taking the CCNA exam as your first IT Cert, it can and will be a very intimidating exam. For those of us who have been in the field for a few years and have experience with Cisco equipment, the CCNA exam will seem pretty painless. But enjoy it, because the moment you leap forward to the CCNP exam, there are no more easy rides! -Original Message- From: Steven Dangerfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:59 AM To: anthony kim; cisco; Craig Lindstrom Subject: RE: Cert Difficulty Comparison. Yes, I also agree, a couple of people i work with have recently taken the CCNA and passed, after a little push from me and a couple of others. They thought it was going to be hard and over studied for it, when they knew the stuff all the time. Having said that I did the same when I did the CCNA. Good look from me too ! Steve www.sjdsystems.com >= Original Message From anthony kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >To be fair, the CCNA is an entry level exam. If you are experienced, it is >a piece of cake. Cisco has designed the exam for Level 1 support >opportunities. Learn well and good luck on your journey. > > >--- Craig Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is >> surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the >> Cisco >> certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, >> its >> just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a >> bit >> ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. >> I >> felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the >> 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and >> teach >> during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm >> not >> the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or >> take >> the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? >> >> I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are >> much >> harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics >> where >> the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else >> feel >> that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a >> week >> until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying >> to >> see what other folks think. >> >> A little mystified, >> Craig Lindstrom >> MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) >> >> >> >> _ >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steven Dangerfield, Network Engineer/Analyst B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Totalise - the Users ISP - To become a member and a shareholder visit http://www.totalise.net --- InterMutual Healthcare from Totalise. Peace of mind at an affordable price. Visit http://www.intermutual.com/health/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
Yes, I also agree, a couple of people i work with have recently taken the CCNA and passed, after a little push from me and a couple of others. They thought it was going to be hard and over studied for it, when they knew the stuff all the time. Having said that I did the same when I did the CCNA. Good look from me too ! Steve www.sjdsystems.com >= Original Message From anthony kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >To be fair, the CCNA is an entry level exam. If you are experienced, it is >a piece of cake. Cisco has designed the exam for Level 1 support >opportunities. Learn well and good luck on your journey. > > >--- Craig Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is >> surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the >> Cisco >> certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, >> its >> just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a >> bit >> ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. >> I >> felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the >> 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and >> teach >> during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm >> not >> the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or >> take >> the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? >> >> I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are >> much >> harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics >> where >> the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else >> feel >> that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a >> week >> until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying >> to >> see what other folks think. >> >> A little mystified, >> Craig Lindstrom >> MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) >> >> >> >> _ >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steven Dangerfield, Network Engineer/Analyst B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Totalise - the Users ISP - To become a member and a shareholder visit http://www.totalise.net --- InterMutual Healthcare from Totalise. Peace of mind at an affordable price. Visit http://www.intermutual.com/health/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
To be fair, the CCNA is an entry level exam. If you are experienced, it is a piece of cake. Cisco has designed the exam for Level 1 support opportunities. Learn well and good luck on your journey. --- Craig Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is > surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the > Cisco > certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, > its > just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a > bit > ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. > I > felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the > 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and > teach > during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm > not > the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or > take > the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? > > I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are > much > harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics > where > the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else > feel > that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a > week > until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying > to > see what other folks think. > > A little mystified, > Craig Lindstrom > MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
Go for it the following Mondays. I expect that you'll tell us how you fared. ---Original Message- From: Craig Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:07 AM Subject: Cert Difficulty Comparison. >Hi, >I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is >surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the Cisco >certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, its >just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a bit >ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. I >felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the >900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and teach >during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm not >the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or take >the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? > >I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are much >harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics where >the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else feel >that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a week >until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying to >see what other folks think. > >A little mystified, >Craig Lindstrom >MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
Craig, Could you describe the difficulty of the Switching exam, what is your experience on the field a from where do you guide to study. Thank you Fernando >From: nobody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: nobody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Craig Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison. >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:47:49 -0800 > >easy is a relative term. if you want to increase the difficulty, you can do >what i did and take foundation 2.0 and support 2.0 on the same day. should >be enough to keep you busy for 3 weeks. > >i missed my foundation by 20 points. no excuses. > >p. > >- Original Message - >From: "Craig Lindstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:28 PM >Subject: Cert Difficulty Comparison. > > > > Hi, > > I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is > > surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the >Cisco > > certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, >its > > just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a >bit > > ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. >I > > felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the > > 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and >teach > > during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm >not > > the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or >take > > the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? > > > > I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are >much > > harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics >where > > the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else >feel > > that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a >week > > until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying >to > > see what other folks think. > > > > A little mystified, > > Craig Lindstrom > > MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) > > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
Depends on experience. If I worked in marketing I would probably think that the Cisco tests are difficult. If I have 5 years of related industry experience, a good understanding of troubleshooting methodology, and know how to properly take tests... yeah they are a walk in the park. Its all relative. Another note, you mention that you are a MCSE. Alot of the concepts on the CCNA test relate very closely to the MCSE TCP/IP Fundimentals course (or Net Essentials or whatever they are calling it these days). Not everyone goes into the CCNA having a firm understanding of the OSI model and how to relate network protocols to it. I am curious to know if you have any real world experience in the areas of Switching, Routing, Remote Access, and Troubleshooting? Difficulty is a relative term... if the test was easy then you did a good job studying. I like to force my opinion on the importance of design to everyone I can, having a good understanding of design and design concepts helps in many ways. My 2 cents. -- Kevin - Original Message - From: "Craig Lindstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: Cert Difficulty Comparison. > Hi, > I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is > surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the Cisco > certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, its > just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a bit > ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. I > felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the > 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and teach > during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm not > the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or take > the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? > > I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are much > harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics where > the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else feel > that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a week > until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying to > see what other folks think. > > A little mystified, > Craig Lindstrom > MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
easy is a relative term. if you want to increase the difficulty, you can do what i did and take foundation 2.0 and support 2.0 on the same day. should be enough to keep you busy for 3 weeks. i missed my foundation by 20 points. no excuses. p. - Original Message - From: "Craig Lindstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: Cert Difficulty Comparison. > Hi, > I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is > surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the Cisco > certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, its > just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a bit > ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. I > felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the > 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and teach > during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm not > the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or take > the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? > > I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are much > harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics where > the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else feel > that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a week > until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying to > see what other folks think. > > A little mystified, > Craig Lindstrom > MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
In my opinion, switching is the easiest of CCNP's exams, routing is the hardest. You will also meet a large amount of topics in remote access. As to the overall difficulty, it depends on a product. Windows NT server can be run by any idiot, and usually is, however to fully understand the psycho's delirium you must be a doctor. All best wishes, /felis Craig Lindstrom wrote: > > Hi, > I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is > surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the Cisco > certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, its > just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a bit > ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. I > felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the > 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and teach > during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm not > the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or take > the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? > > I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are much > harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics where > the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else feel > that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a week > until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying to > see what other folks think. > > A little mystified, > Craig Lindstrom > MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cert Difficulty Comparison.
Hi, I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the Cisco certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, its just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a bit ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. I felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the 900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and teach during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or take the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are much harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics where the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else feel that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a week until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying to see what other folks think. A little mystified, Craig Lindstrom MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
