RE: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?

2001-03-19 Thread LeBrun, Tim

Note that it says CCNP Specializations (not the CCNP or CCDP) can not be
recertified.  The following URL shows the current specializations:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

Tim LeBrun


-Original Message-
From: Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?


I am not agree with this.

I believe that NP/DP become more common not important.


"Chris Supino" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 They are referring to the NP/DP specializations, not the certs themselves.
 The NP and DP are actually becoming more important, with the restructuring
 of the Cisco reseller agreements somewhat de-emphasizing the role of the
 CCIE.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Brad Perlin
 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?


 It's clear you won't be able to renew your CCNP or CCDP if you already
have
 it, but has anyone heard of a deadline for completing these if you are
 somewhere in the middle of the process?

 Or, am I misunderstanding this new certification intiative?  My read is
that
 CCNP/CCDP designations are going away.  Knowledgeable comments would be
 appreciated.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/pdf/CQS.pdf

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/cqs/cqs_faq.pdf

 Excerts from the above links:

 "Each Cisco Qualified Specialist designation is customized to meet current
 market needs. Individuals may earn designations in as many technical areas
 as they choose. Over time, and in response to new technology developments,
 Cisco will create additional designations.

 Note: Candidates for the Cisco Qualified Specialist designation must hold
a
 valid associate-level certification. Current CCNP?or CCDP?specializations
 are valid until their expiration date. Individuals with expired CCNP or
CCDP
 specializations may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified Specialist
 designation, if one is available, in their preferred field."

 "6. What happens to the Cisco CCNP or CCDP specializations I already
earned?
 Previously earned specializations will remain active for a period of two
 years from the date achieved.  There will be no recertification option. At
 that point, you may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified
 Specialist, if one is offered, in your preferred field."

 Brad





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Re: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?

2001-03-17 Thread Larry Lamb

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Brad
Perlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is actually for the career specializations like Security, Voice,
SNA, etc.  It is not for the CCNP/CCDP which cover mostly Routing 
Switching.

 It's clear you won't be able to renew your CCNP or CCDP if you already
 have it, but has anyone heard of a deadline for completing these if you
 are somewhere in the middle of the process?

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RE: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?

2001-03-17 Thread Chris Supino

They are referring to the NP/DP specializations, not the certs themselves.
The NP and DP are actually becoming more important, with the restructuring
of the Cisco reseller agreements somewhat de-emphasizing the role of the
CCIE.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brad Perlin
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?


It's clear you won't be able to renew your CCNP or CCDP if you already have
it, but has anyone heard of a deadline for completing these if you are
somewhere in the middle of the process?

Or, am I misunderstanding this new certification intiative?  My read is that
CCNP/CCDP designations are going away.  Knowledgeable comments would be
appreciated.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/pdf/CQS.pdf

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/cqs/cqs_faq.pdf

Excerts from the above links:

"Each Cisco Qualified Specialist designation is customized to meet current
market needs. Individuals may earn designations in as many technical areas
as they choose. Over time, and in response to new technology developments,
Cisco will create additional designations.

Note: Candidates for the Cisco Qualified Specialist designation must hold a
valid associate-level certification. Current CCNP™ or CCDP™ specializations
are valid until their expiration date. Individuals with expired CCNP or CCDP
specializations may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified Specialist
designation, if one is available, in their preferred field."

"6. What happens to the Cisco CCNP or CCDP specializations I already earned?
Previously earned specializations will remain active for a period of two
years from the date achieved.  There will be no recertification option. At
that point, you may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified
Specialist, if one is offered, in your preferred field."

Brad





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Re: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?

2001-03-17 Thread Vincent

I am not agree with this.

I believe that NP/DP become more common not important.


"Chris Supino" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 They are referring to the NP/DP specializations, not the certs themselves.
 The NP and DP are actually becoming more important, with the restructuring
 of the Cisco reseller agreements somewhat de-emphasizing the role of the
 CCIE.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Brad Perlin
 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?


 It's clear you won't be able to renew your CCNP or CCDP if you already
have
 it, but has anyone heard of a deadline for completing these if you are
 somewhere in the middle of the process?

 Or, am I misunderstanding this new certification intiative?  My read is
that
 CCNP/CCDP designations are going away.  Knowledgeable comments would be
 appreciated.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/pdf/CQS.pdf

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/cqs/cqs_faq.pdf

 Excerts from the above links:

 "Each Cisco Qualified Specialist designation is customized to meet current
 market needs. Individuals may earn designations in as many technical areas
 as they choose. Over time, and in response to new technology developments,
 Cisco will create additional designations.

 Note: Candidates for the Cisco Qualified Specialist designation must hold
a
 valid associate-level certification. Current CCNP?or CCDP?specializations
 are valid until their expiration date. Individuals with expired CCNP or
CCDP
 specializations may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified Specialist
 designation, if one is available, in their preferred field."

 "6. What happens to the Cisco CCNP or CCDP specializations I already
earned?
 Previously earned specializations will remain active for a period of two
 years from the date achieved.  There will be no recertification option. At
 that point, you may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified
 Specialist, if one is offered, in your preferred field."

 Brad





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RE: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?

2001-03-17 Thread Chris Supino

All depends on your organization and your job role. Although the CCNP and
CCDP are becoming much more common, they are no where near as common (or
undervalued) as an NT 4.0 MCSE. And I was referring to reseller
requirements, which does not apply to everyone, because we all don't work
for resellers. But thanks for you opinion.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Vincent
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?


I am not agree with this.

I believe that NP/DP become more common not important.


"Chris Supino" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 They are referring to the NP/DP specializations, not the certs themselves.
 The NP and DP are actually becoming more important, with the restructuring
 of the Cisco reseller agreements somewhat de-emphasizing the role of the
 CCIE.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Brad Perlin
 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cisco Qualified Specialist--the end for CCNP/CCDP?


 It's clear you won't be able to renew your CCNP or CCDP if you already
have
 it, but has anyone heard of a deadline for completing these if you are
 somewhere in the middle of the process?

 Or, am I misunderstanding this new certification intiative?  My read is
that
 CCNP/CCDP designations are going away.  Knowledgeable comments would be
 appreciated.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/pdf/CQS.pdf

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/cqs/cqs_faq.pdf

 Excerts from the above links:

 "Each Cisco Qualified Specialist designation is customized to meet current
 market needs. Individuals may earn designations in as many technical areas
 as they choose. Over time, and in response to new technology developments,
 Cisco will create additional designations.

 Note: Candidates for the Cisco Qualified Specialist designation must hold
a
 valid associate-level certification. Current CCNP?or CCDP?specializations
 are valid until their expiration date. Individuals with expired CCNP or
CCDP
 specializations may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified Specialist
 designation, if one is available, in their preferred field."

 "6. What happens to the Cisco CCNP or CCDP specializations I already
earned?
 Previously earned specializations will remain active for a period of two
 years from the date achieved.  There will be no recertification option. At
 that point, you may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified
 Specialist, if one is offered, in your preferred field."

 Brad





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