Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating
PHRF is location dependent I believe and it is a performance based number...I often refer to New England PHRF's because conditions in New Englan area are similar to around here so I am told; heck here: http://www.phrfne.org/page/handicapping/base_handicaps Dwight Veinot C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Paul Hood via CnC-Listwrote: > I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. > There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of > this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, > do I look totally elsewhere? > > 34 FOOT > 34 FOOT CB > 34 FOOT + DK > 34 FOOT + WK > 34 FOOT R > 34 FOOT XL > 34/36 FOOT > 34/36 FOOT R > 34/36 FOOT XL > 34/36 FOOT WK > > Paul Hood > '82 C Georgian Bay, ON > > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating
Hi Paul, are you looking for: 1 - a SP ( Speed Potential ) rating for a C 34 2 - a SP for your C 34 3 - an ASP ( Adjusted Speed Potential ) for your C 34 ( possible rating adjustment for sail size ) 4 - a valid PHRF certificate, likely from PHRF-LO, so you can enter a race This might help a bit to see which class your boat is in: http://phrf-lo.org/index.php?option=com_fabrik=table=5=0=0=206 You can match length, beam and draft. Don't worry about displacement, it is usually pretty optimistic. Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1 Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:45:17 -0500 From: "Paul Hood" <paul.h...@rogers.com> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List determining PHRF rating Message-ID: <026901d1735c$02337fd0$069a7f70$@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, do I look totally elsewhere? 34 FOOT 34 FOOT CB 34 FOOT + DK 34 FOOT + WK 34 FOOT R 34 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT 34/36 FOOT R 34/36 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT WK Paul Hood '82 C Georgian Bay, ON ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List determining PHRF rating
Hi Paul, Your phrf will be determined by the local phrf committee You just need to know about your rig and keel. As mentioned by others the 34+, 34/36 R, WK, XL are a different design boat. Here's what you need to know: How deep is your keel DK stands for deep keel, usually about 6.5 - 7.0 feet, Is it a centerboard (CB) keel? Usually the CB keel or if you have a "shoal" shallower version with a bulb or wing you will get points back How is your headsail rigged? Is it on a furler? - You will typically get points back for a furler What is the max size head sail you will be using? Typically a 135% or 150% Headsail. the % is proportional to your "J" measurement. 100% is the same as the "J" and so on. Typically you'll get points back if the largest headsail you use is less than 140% Was there a TM or tall mast version of your boat? Sometimes the "I" "E", or "P" measurements can vary, the smaller ones get points back Are you using a folding or feathering prop? 2 blades or 3 blades? 3 blades fixed will get you points back Any structural or weight saving modifications done to the boat? Spinnaker: Standard, oversize, or Asym? Standard Spin typically has a max girth that is 180% of J As for the ratings across other regions, that will give you an idea and will help guide your phrf committee if they aren't familiar with the boat.. A national average for your boat is a good place to start.. This is where you get the US Sailing phrfs for all boats across the US and Canada: http://www.ussailing.org/wp-content/uploads/DARoot/Offshore/PHRF/2014%20PHRF%20Handicaps%20Data.pdf Good luck with it. Have fun racing -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA From: "Paul Hood" <paul.h...@rogers.com> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List determining PHRF rating Message-ID: <026901d1735c$02337fd0$069a7f70$@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, do I look totally elsewhere? 34 FOOT 34 FOOT CB 34 FOOT + DK 34 FOOT + WK 34 FOOT R 34 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT 34/36 FOOT R 34/36 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT WK Paul Hood '82 C Georgian Bay, ON ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating
Paul, In LI Sound, the base rating of a C 34 is 144. Will be different elsewhere. The Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Feb 29, 2016, at 10:08 PM, David Knecht via CnC-Listwrote: 34/36, 34 foot + and 34XL refer to the 34+ made from 1989 on which was 35.5 feet LOA. It came in wing keel (WK), racing (R), hybrid (XL) versions and some (like mine) that is a mix of those names. So, as John says, the first one is what was made in 82 and is just called the 34 and is actually 34’ LOA. Dave > On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Paul Hood via CnC-List > wrote: > > I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. > There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of > this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, > do I look totally elsewhere? > > 34 FOOT > 34 FOOT CB > 34 FOOT + DK > 34 FOOT + WK > 34 FOOT R > 34 FOOT XL > 34/36 FOOT > 34/36 FOOT R > 34/36 FOOT XL > 34/36 FOOT WK > > Paul Hood > '82 C Georgian Bay, ON > > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating
34/36, 34 foot + and 34XL refer to the 34+ made from 1989 on which was 35.5 feet LOA. It came in wing keel (WK), racing (R), hybrid (XL) versions and some (like mine) that is a mix of those names. So, as John says, the first one is what was made in 82 and is just called the 34 and is actually 34’ LOA. Dave On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Paul Hood via CnC-Listwrote: > I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. > There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of > this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, > do I look totally elsewhere? > > 34 FOOT > 34 FOOT CB > 34 FOOT + DK > 34 FOOT + WK > 34 FOOT R > 34 FOOT XL > 34/36 FOOT > 34/36 FOOT R > 34/36 FOOT XL > 34/36 FOOT WK > > Paul Hood > '82 C Georgian Bay, ON > > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating
Paul Yours is most likely a sistership to our 34, which is very different from the other 34's listed. Our PHRF in Long Island sound with full keel is 144 John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C 34 hull 464 Noank, CT -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hood via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Hood Subject: Stus-List determining PHRF rating I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, do I look totally elsewhere? 34 FOOT 34 FOOT CB 34 FOOT + DK 34 FOOT + WK 34 FOOT R 34 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT 34/36 FOOT R 34/36 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT WK Paul Hood '82 C Georgian Bay, ON ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List determining PHRF rating
I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, do I look totally elsewhere? 34 FOOT 34 FOOT CB 34 FOOT + DK 34 FOOT + WK 34 FOOT R 34 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT 34/36 FOOT R 34/36 FOOT XL 34/36 FOOT WK Paul Hood '82 C Georgian Bay, ON ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com