Re: [CODE4LIB] request for sample content strategy docs

2012-06-05 Thread Ann Perbohner
excellent. I'll see if I can share what we are revising. We are looking again 
at our website and all of what goes into it. I think the only piece we have 
that is current is about our governance.

Thanks
ann

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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:04 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] request for sample content strategy docs

***apologies for cross-posting***

Hey, all,

Chris Evjy (Jeffco Libraries, Colorado) and I are presenting a full-day
preconference at Annual in Anaheim about content strategy, and we're
looking for examples of the following types of documents from any and all
types of libraries:

Content strategy document
Information architecture diagram
Workflow statement
Content model
Website governance documentation

If your library has created some/all of these, and you wouldn't mind
sharing the wealth with our preconference attendees, please send (as
attachments or links, if publicly posted) them my way at
milehighbrar...@gmail.com (this email account). Proper credit/attribution
will be given, of course!

Thanks in advance!

--
Nina

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[CODE4LIB] request for sample content strategy docs

2012-06-05 Thread Nina Mchale
***apologies for cross-posting***

Hey, all,

Chris Evjy (Jeffco Libraries, Colorado) and I are presenting a full-day
preconference at Annual in Anaheim about content strategy, and we're
looking for examples of the following types of documents from any and all
types of libraries:

Content strategy document
Information architecture diagram
Workflow statement
Content model
Website governance documentation

If your library has created some/all of these, and you wouldn't mind
sharing the wealth with our preconference attendees, please send (as
attachments or links, if publicly posted) them my way at
milehighbrar...@gmail.com (this email account). Proper credit/attribution
will be given, of course!

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Nina

Nina McHale, MA/MSLS
milehighbrarian.net
Facebook & Twitter: @ninermac


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Frumkin, Jeremy
Is Roy Tennant smarter than Chuck Norris is tough?

-- jaf

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:51 PM, "Roy Tennant"  wrote:

> Roy Tennant is too smart to have an official position on this. Best to work 
> it out yourselves. :-)
> Roy
> 
> On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Ethan Gruber  wrote:
> 
>> The begs the question, what is the official Roy Tennant position on baloney
>> vs. bologna?  May I suggest a viaf-like resource for food, in which I may
>> prefer the baloney label while allowing my data to be cross-searchable with
>> bologna records?  Is there an RDF ontology for this???
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
> Bacon   == Seal of Approval
> Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
> Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
> 
 
   This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships
>>> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal
>>> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its
>>> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of
>>> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in
>>> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a
>>> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat,
>>> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn
>>> about one's approval or lack thereof.
 
What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness
>>> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is
>>> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs.
>>> 
>>> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
>>> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
>>> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
>>> seems appropriate.
>>> 
>>> Fwiw...
>>> Kevin
>>> 


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
45 CFR 46.102(f)(2):

(f) Human subject means a living individual about whom an investigator
(whether professional or student) conducting research obtains
(1) Data through intervention or interaction with the individual, or
(2) Identifiable private information.
[. . .] Private information includes information about behavior that occurs
in a context in which an individual can reasonably expect that no
observation or recording is taking place, and information which has been
provided for specific purposes by an individual and which the individual
can reasonably expect will not be made public (for example, a medical
record). [. . .]


Private information - this isn't stuff you go telling everyone.  It's fine
to review results of a FOIA request, or a set of publications, and try to
make something of the authors' culture or views.  The IRB has limited time.
While not getting a required approval is a bad career move, it's also
unethical to go to the IRB with things that aren't supposed to go there
because then you are bogging down the approval process or distracting the
IRB in the decisions it is supposed to make.

-Wilhelmina Randtke

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Joseph Montibello <
joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> ++
>
> Mark N's comments made me wonder, "what kinds of things *don't* require
> IRB approval?"  Here's a link to a page with the US's HHS department,
> Office for Human Research Protections.
>
> http://1.usa.gov/OHRPchart
>
> Nice little flowchart / decision tree. Looks like Paul's particular bit of
> research wouldn't require IRB approval. (import
> standardLegalDisclaimer.notALawyer)
>
> Joe Montibello, MLIS
> Library Systems Manager
> Dartmouth College Library
> 603.646.9394
> joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/5/12 12:19 PM, "Notess, Mark H"  wrote:
>
> >They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB
> >
> >Have at it.
> >
> >While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a
> >disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their
> >approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of
> >the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use
> >things when we could instead make a fair use argument.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >On 6/5/12 11:31 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind"  wrote:
> >
> >>I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be
> >>available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request
> >>to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without
> >>even having to ask?  Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the
> >>archives to use them for whatever research they want.
> >>
> >>On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
> >>> I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be
> >>> interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your
> >>>IRB
> >>> to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can
> >>> require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results.
> >>>
> >>> Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical
> >>> issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet
> >>>Researchers:
> >>> http://aoir.org/
> >>>
> >>> Edward
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi all,
> 
>  I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying
> how
>  concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or
>  non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual
>  implementations and practices in the broader library community, the
>  zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc.  I'm not
> sure
>  about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be
>  anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially
> and
>  specifically any commercial harvesting.  An initial idea as an example
> of
>  what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a
>  snapshot of what's going on over some defined period of time, or
> concepts
>  most closely associated with a particular term, or an overlap analysis
>  against one of the library science databases.  Stuff like that.
> 
>  Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
> but
>  I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Paul
>  --
> 
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>  
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[CODE4LIB] oracle apex

2012-06-05 Thread Kaile Zhu
I wonder if anybody here working on Ex Libris' Voyager.  My question actually 
is anybody uses APEX to retrieve data from Voyager for Web development or 
reporting purposes?

Kelly Zhu

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Roy Tennant
Roy Tennant is too smart to have an official position on this. Best to work it 
out yourselves. :-)
Roy

On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Ethan Gruber  wrote:

> The begs the question, what is the official Roy Tennant position on baloney
> vs. bologna?  May I suggest a viaf-like resource for food, in which I may
> prefer the baloney label while allowing my data to be cross-searchable with
> bologna records?  Is there an RDF ontology for this???
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson 
>> wrote:
>> 
  Bacon   == Seal of Approval
  Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
  Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
 
>>> 
>>>This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships
>> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal
>> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its
>> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of
>> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in
>> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a
>> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat,
>> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn
>> about one's approval or lack thereof.
>>> 
>>> What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness
>> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is
>> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs.
>> 
>> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
>> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
>> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
>> seems appropriate.
>> 
>> Fwiw...
>> Kevin
>> 


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On the internet, no one knows you're a dog.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Truitt, Marc  wrote:
> On 06/05/2012 02:18 PM, Michele R Combs wrote:
>>
>> I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool
>> since before I was born as being remotely attractive.
>
>
> Hmm... sounds as though you've not ever lived with a Labrador Retriever!
>  Most Labs I've met would be in dog heaven at the thought of this kind of...
> umm... "delicacy".  :)
>
> - mt
>
> --
> *
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> Associate University Librarian,
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>    Technology Services             e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca
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> crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time-
> honored manifestations:  manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs,
> crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity,
> groupthink [...].  Collective judgment has appealing possibilities;
> collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a
> cataclysmic record."
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Truitt, Marc

On 06/05/2012 02:18 PM, Michele R Combs wrote:

I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool since 
before I was born as being remotely attractive.


Hmm... sounds as though you've not ever lived with a Labrador Retriever! 
 Most Labs I've met would be in dog heaven at the thought of this kind 
of... umm... "delicacy".  :)


- mt

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Associate University Librarian,
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Technology Services e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca
University of Alberta Libraries fax: 780-492-9243
Cameron Library cell   : 780-217-0356
Edmonton, AB  T6G 2J8

"It remains difficult to know when and how much to trust the wisdom of
crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time-
honored manifestations:  manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs,
crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity,
groupthink [...].  Collective judgment has appealing possibilities;
collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a
cataclysmic record."
   -- , 2011
*


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Ellen Wilson
I'd have to disagree. Clearly, IMHO, seitan is the vegan Seal of No
Approval Needed.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson 
> wrote:
>
> >>   Bacon   == Seal of Approval
> >>   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
> >>   Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
> >>
> >
> > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships
> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal
> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its
> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of
> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in
> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a
> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat,
> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn
> about one's approval or lack thereof.
> >
> >  What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness
> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is
> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs.
>
> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
> seems appropriate.
>
> Fwiw...
> Kevin
>



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University of South Alabama
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Mobile, AL 36688
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Becky Yoose  wrote:

> We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest "pickled
> pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter since you've
> been born"?

There are cultural assumptions in this disapproval. I suggest you
retract this proposal immediately.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Michele R Combs
I dunno, it's hard to imagine anything that's been sitting on a bar stool since 
before I was born as being remotely attractive.  But that might just be because 
I'm old.  Well, old-ish.

Michele

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark A. 
Matienzo
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:17 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Becky Yoose  wrote:

> We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest 
> "pickled pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter 
> since you've been born"?

There are cultural assumptions in this disapproval. I suggest you retract this 
proposal immediately.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread stuart yeates

On 06/06/12 06:11, Doran, Michael D wrote:

Without asking permission of the list, I hereby assign this new category of things 
requiring OCLC oversight as "salami" on the charcuterie spectrum.

   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval


There appears to be a typo here:

Soylent Green == Seal of Disapproval

cheers
stuart
--
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Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/


[CODE4LIB] Academic libraries - Will dev for pay models?

2012-06-05 Thread Eric Larson
Any academic libraries out there doing consulting or application  
development work for hire on their campuses? -- not freebie work, but  
where actual money exchanges across campus accounting lines.


I would be curious to hear how you go about pricing out your services,  
or if you have a selection process for the work you choose to perform.


Cheers,
- Eric

--
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Web Application Developer
Shared Development Group
University of Wisconsin-Madison Libraries
elar...@library.wisc.edu


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Michele R Combs
Perhaps spam  spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans egg and spam?

Michele

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin 
S. Clarke
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:02 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson  wrote:

> Alas, bologna as the seal of disapproval might fall a bit short. While one 
> might
> jump to proffer spam in its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all 
> in a 
> bit of a quandary.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Kyle Banerjee
I vote for worms. I go to the garden to eat them when nobody loves me and
everybody hates me

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Becky Yoose  wrote:

> Chicken gizzards, when prepared right (fried), are a delicacy. While I am
> not a gizzard fan, many in my immediate and extended family are, so...
>
> We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest "pickled
> pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter since you've
> been born"? Adhering to RDA guidelines, I am not using abbreviations to
> describe the material at hand at the bar.
>
> Thanks,
> Becky, who consulted her family cookbook for this email.
>
> Chicken feet can be good as well...
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >>   Bacon   == Seal of Approval
> > >>   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
> > >>   Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
> > >>
> > >
> > > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships
> > between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the
> appeal
> > of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its
> > appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of
> > disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam
> in
> > its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a
> > quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat,
> > perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn
> > about one's approval or lack thereof.
> > >
> > >  What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the
> aboutness
> > of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is
> > strictly necessary in our mortal affairs.
> >
> > I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
> > livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
> > stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
> > seems appropriate.
> >
> > Fwiw...
> > Kevin
> >
>



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Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Becky Yoose
Chicken gizzards, when prepared right (fried), are a delicacy. While I am
not a gizzard fan, many in my immediate and extended family are, so...

We need a meat that is disapproved of universally. May I suggest "pickled
pig's ears that have been sitting in a jar on a bar counter since you've
been born"? Adhering to RDA guidelines, I am not using abbreviations to
describe the material at hand at the bar.

Thanks,
Becky, who consulted her family cookbook for this email.

Chicken feet can be good as well...

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson 
> wrote:
>
> >>   Bacon   == Seal of Approval
> >>   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
> >>   Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
> >>
> >
> > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships
> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal
> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its
> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of
> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in
> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a
> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat,
> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn
> about one's approval or lack thereof.
> >
> >  What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness
> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is
> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs.
>
> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
> seems appropriate.
>
> Fwiw...
> Kevin
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
+1 Tempeh == Seal of No Approval Needed, though finding an appropriate
icon may be a challenge...

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time." --Alan Shapiro





On 6/5/12 3:02 PM, "Kevin S. Clarke"  wrote:

>On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson 
>wrote:
>
>>>   Bacon   == Seal of Approval
>>>   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
>>>   Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
>>>
>>
>> This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships
>>between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the
>>appeal of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in
>>its appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of
>>disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam
>>in its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a
>>quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat,
>>perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn
>>about one's approval or lack thereof.
>>
>>  What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the
>>aboutness of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more
>>often than is strictly necessary in our mortal affairs.
>
>I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
>livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
>stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
>seems appropriate.
>
>Fwiw...
>Kevin


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Ethan Gruber
The begs the question, what is the official Roy Tennant position on baloney
vs. bologna?  May I suggest a viaf-like resource for food, in which I may
prefer the baloney label while allowing my data to be cross-searchable with
bologna records?  Is there an RDF ontology for this???

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kevin S. Clarke  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson 
> wrote:
>
> >>   Bacon   == Seal of Approval
> >>   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
> >>   Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
> >>
> >
> > This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships
> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal
> of the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its
> appeal, that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of
> disapproval might fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in
> its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a
> quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat,
> perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn
> about one's approval or lack thereof.
> >
> >  What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness
> of meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is
> strictly necessary in our mortal affairs.
>
> I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
> livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
> stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
> seems appropriate.
>
> Fwiw...
> Kevin
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM, BWS Johnson  wrote:

>>   Bacon   == Seal of Approval
>>   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
>>   Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
>>
>
>     This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships 
> between the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal of 
> the meats themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its appeal, 
> that one seems on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of disapproval might 
> fall a bit short. While one might jump to proffer spam in its place, 
> Hawai'ians quite like spam, leaving us all in a bit of a quandry. Olive loaf, 
> perhaps? And while salame is a most excellent meat, perhaps fois gras more 
> aptly conveys the aboutness of not giving a damn about one's approval or lack 
> thereof.
>
>  What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness of 
> meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is strictly 
> necessary in our mortal affairs.

I'm vegan now, but having eaten it as a child, may I suggest chicken
livers for the Seal of Disapproval? Blech!  And, as a vegan, I'd
stretch bounds of the Seal of No Approval Needed to tempeh.  That
seems appropriate.

Fwiw...
Kevin


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list (Charcuterie Spectrum)

2012-06-05 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete!



> Without asking permission of the list, I hereby assign this new category of 
> things requiring OCLC oversight as "salami" on the charcuterie 
> spectrum.
> 
>   Bacon   == Seal of Approval
>   Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
>   Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed
>

    This has some serious flaws. I'm concerned about the relationships between 
the desirability of the bespoke seals as they relate to the appeal of the meats 
themselves. While yea, bacon is nearly universal in its appeal, that one seems 
on the mark. Alas, bologna as the seal of disapproval might fall a bit short. 
While one might jump to proffer spam in its place, Hawai'ians quite like spam, 
leaving us all in a bit of a quandry. Olive loaf, perhaps? And while salame is 
a most excellent meat, perhaps fois gras more aptly conveys the aboutness of 
not giving a damn about one's approval or lack thereof.

 What say you cataloguing mafia? Surely we must honour the aboutness of 
meat and approval lest we needs OCLC to intervene more often than is strictly 
necessary in our mortal affairs. 

Ox tongue in cheek,
Brooke


[CODE4LIB] Free IMLS-JCDL workshop: Digitization cost (June 14, GWU, Washington, DC)

2012-06-05 Thread karim boughida
Hi All,
We got a grant extension from IMLS to organize an international event
around Digitization Cost Analysis. It's part of JCDL 2012.
You're invited to attend. It's free but RSVP is required.
Thursday June 14, 2012
1:00 to 3:00 pm
Room 702
Estelle and Melvin Gelman Library
George Washington University
Washington, DC,
Metro Foggy Bottom

RSVP
Martha Whittaker (mart...@gwu.edu)

More here http://jcdl2012.info/workshops/digital-cost-analysis

Karim B Boughida
kbough...@gmail.com
bough...@gwu.edu


[CODE4LIB] Systems Librarian - Univ Wisc - Whitewater

2012-06-05 Thread Fragola, Patty
ANDERSEN LIBRARY, UW-WHITEWATER
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4. Collaborate with colleagues in investigating, evaluating, recommending, and 
implementing technologies to improve service and optimize the information 
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order to develop gateways between the Library’s online resources and locally 
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6. Be responsible for installing and maintaining library software, including 
communication with software vendors.
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8. Create new applications and adapt existing systems to meet Library needs.
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Doran, Michael D
Without asking permission of the list, I hereby assign this new category of 
things requiring OCLC oversight as "salami" on the charcuterie spectrum.

  Bacon   == Seal of Approval
  Bologna == Seal of Disapproval
  Salami  == Seal of No Approval Needed

-- Michael

# Michael Doran, Systems Librarian
# University of Texas at Arlington
# 817-272-5326 office
# 817-688-1926 mobile
# do...@uta.edu
# http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/

> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Paul Orkiszewski
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:04 PM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list
> 
> Exactly the kind of observation that makes this list worth studying --
> Paul
> 
> On 6/5/12 12:57 PM, Daniel Suchy wrote:
> > Folks: aren't we forgetting the first step?  Do we even have OCLC's
> > permission?!
> >
> > Sorry :)
> > Dan
> >
> > On 6/5/12 9:52 AM, "Truitt, Marc"  wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/04/2012 02:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski wrote:
> >>> the outcomes would be anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest
> of
> >>> any kind, especially and specifically any commercial harvesting.
> [...]
> >>>
> >>> Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the
> list,
> >>> but I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.
> >> Funny... and here I thought that Paul was simply being considerate of
> >> the possible sensitivities of list members by asking first!
> >>
> >> I appreciated the question and the explanation of his intended use.  I
> >> guess I'm just too olde-school...
> >>
> >> [sigh],
> >>
> >> - mt
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> *
> >> Marc Truitt
> >> Associate University Librarian,
> >> Bibliographic and Information   Voice  : 780-492-4770
> >>  Technology Services e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca
> >> University of Alberta Libraries fax: 780-492-9243
> >> Cameron Library cell   : 780-217-0356
> >> Edmonton, AB  T6G 2J8
> >>
> >> "It remains difficult to know when and how much to trust the wisdom of
> >> crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time-
> >> honored manifestations:  manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs,
> >> crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity,
> >> groupthink [...].  Collective judgment has appealing possibilities;
> >> collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a
> >> cataclysmic record."
> >> -- , 2011
> >>
> *
> 
> --
> 
> 
> *Paul Orkiszewski*
> Coordinator of Library Technology Services / Associate Professor
> University Library
> Appalachian State University
> 218 College Street
> P.O. Box 32026
> Boone, NC 28608-2026
> 
> E-mail: orkiszews...@appstate.edu
> Phone: 828 262 6588
> Fax: 828 262 2797
> 


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Paul Orkiszewski

Exactly the kind of observation that makes this list worth studying -- Paul

On 6/5/12 12:57 PM, Daniel Suchy wrote:

Folks: aren't we forgetting the first step?  Do we even have OCLC's
permission?!

Sorry :)
Dan

On 6/5/12 9:52 AM, "Truitt, Marc"  wrote:


On 06/04/2012 02:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski wrote:

the outcomes would be anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of
any kind, especially and specifically any commercial harvesting. [...]

Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
but I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.

Funny... and here I thought that Paul was simply being considerate of
the possible sensitivities of list members by asking first!

I appreciated the question and the explanation of his intended use.  I
guess I'm just too olde-school...

[sigh],

- mt

--
*
Marc Truitt
Associate University Librarian,
Bibliographic and Information   Voice  : 780-492-4770
 Technology Services e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca
University of Alberta Libraries fax: 780-492-9243
Cameron Library cell   : 780-217-0356
Edmonton, AB  T6G 2J8

"It remains difficult to know when and how much to trust the wisdom of
crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time-
honored manifestations:  manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs,
crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity,
groupthink [...].  Collective judgment has appealing possibilities;
collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a
cataclysmic record."
-- , 2011
*


--


*Paul Orkiszewski*
Coordinator of Library Technology Services / Associate Professor
University Library
Appalachian State University
218 College Street
P.O. Box 32026
Boone, NC 28608-2026

E-mail: orkiszews...@appstate.edu
Phone: 828 262 6588
Fax: 828 262 2797



Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel Suchy
Folks: aren't we forgetting the first step?  Do we even have OCLC's
permission?! 

Sorry :)
Dan

On 6/5/12 9:52 AM, "Truitt, Marc"  wrote:

>On 06/04/2012 02:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski wrote:
>> the outcomes would be anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of
>> any kind, especially and specifically any commercial harvesting. [...]
>>
>> Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
>> but I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.
>
>Funny... and here I thought that Paul was simply being considerate of
>the possible sensitivities of list members by asking first!
>
>I appreciated the question and the explanation of his intended use.  I
>guess I'm just too olde-school...
>
>[sigh],
>
>- mt
>
>-- 
>*
>Marc Truitt
>Associate University Librarian,
>Bibliographic and Information   Voice  : 780-492-4770
> Technology Services e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca
>University of Alberta Libraries fax: 780-492-9243
>Cameron Library cell   : 780-217-0356
>Edmonton, AB  T6G 2J8
>
>"It remains difficult to know when and how much to trust the wisdom of
>crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time-
>honored manifestations:  manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs,
>crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity,
>groupthink [...].  Collective judgment has appealing possibilities;
>collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a
>cataclysmic record."
>-- , 2011
>*


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Truitt, Marc

On 06/04/2012 02:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski wrote:

the outcomes would be anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of
any kind, especially and specifically any commercial harvesting. [...]

Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
but I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.


Funny... and here I thought that Paul was simply being considerate of 
the possible sensitivities of list members by asking first!


I appreciated the question and the explanation of his intended use.  I 
guess I'm just too olde-school...


[sigh],

- mt

--
*
Marc Truitt
Associate University Librarian,
Bibliographic and Information   Voice  : 780-492-4770
Technology Services e-mail : marc.tru...@ualberta.ca
University of Alberta Libraries fax: 780-492-9243
Cameron Library cell   : 780-217-0356
Edmonton, AB  T6G 2J8

"It remains difficult to know when and how much to trust the wisdom of
crowds [...] Crowds turn all too quickly into mobs, with their time-
honored manifestations:  manias, bubbles, lynch mobs, flash mobs,
crusades, mass hysteria, herd mentality, goose-stepping, conformity,
groupthink [...].  Collective judgment has appealing possibilities;
collective self-deception and collective evil have already left a
cataclysmic record."
   -- , 2011
*


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Kyle Banerjee
Wholeheartedly agree.

Simply asking permission implies whoever you're asking has more business
determining whether you have the right to do something than you do. It also
implies you expect them to offer an opinion. People who don't know what's
going on say "no" in such situations. The result is everything gets bogged
down and no work gets done.

A much better way to go is to use the "front page test." If your picture is
plastered on the front page of the newspaper along with an explanation of
what you did, are you sorry (this is not the same as asking if someone
disapproves)?

In the case at hand, your project should not be jeopardized if a bonehead
among us doesn't get that info they make freely available on the open Web
might actually be used...

kyle



On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Notess, Mark H  wrote:

> They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB
>
> Have at it.
>
> While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a
> disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their
> approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of
> the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use
> things when we could instead make a fair use argument.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Joseph Montibello
++

Mark N's comments made me wonder, "what kinds of things *don't* require
IRB approval?"  Here's a link to a page with the US's HHS department,
Office for Human Research Protections.

http://1.usa.gov/OHRPchart

Nice little flowchart / decision tree. Looks like Paul's particular bit of
research wouldn't require IRB approval. (import
standardLegalDisclaimer.notALawyer)

Joe Montibello, MLIS
Library Systems Manager
Dartmouth College Library
603.646.9394
joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu






On 6/5/12 12:19 PM, "Notess, Mark H"  wrote:

>They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB
>
>Have at it.
>
>While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a
>disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their
>approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of
>the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use
>things when we could instead make a fair use argument.
>
>Best,
>
>Mark
>
>On 6/5/12 11:31 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind"  wrote:
>
>>I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be
>>available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request
>>to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without
>>even having to ask?  Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the
>>archives to use them for whatever research they want.
>>
>>On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
>>> I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be
>>> interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your
>>>IRB
>>> to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can
>>> require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results.
>>>
>>> Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical
>>> issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet
>>>Researchers:
>>> http://aoir.org/
>>>
>>> Edward
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying
how
 concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or
 non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual
 implementations and practices in the broader library community, the
 zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc.  I'm not
sure
 about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be
 anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially
and
 specifically any commercial harvesting.  An initial idea as an example
of
 what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a
 snapshot of what's going on over some defined period of time, or
concepts
 most closely associated with a particular term, or an overlap analysis
 against one of the library science databases.  Stuff like that.

 Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
but
 I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.

 Cheers,

 Paul
 --

 --**--**
 
 *Paul Orkiszewski*
 Coordinator of Library Technology Services / Associate Professor
 University Library
 Appalachian State University
 218 College Street
 P.O. Box 32026
 Boone, NC 28608-2026

 E-mail: orkiszews...@appstate.edu
 Phone: 828 262 6588
 Fax: 828 262 2797
 --**--**
 

>>>
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Notess, Mark H
They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB

Have at it.

While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a
disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their
approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of
the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use
things when we could instead make a fair use argument.

Best,

Mark

On 6/5/12 11:31 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind"  wrote:

>I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be
>available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request
>to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without
>even having to ask?  Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the
>archives to use them for whatever research they want.
>
>On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
>> I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be
>> interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your
>>IRB
>> to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can
>> require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results.
>>
>> Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical
>> issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet
>>Researchers:
>> http://aoir.org/
>>
>> Edward
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying
>>>how
>>> concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or
>>> non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual
>>> implementations and practices in the broader library community, the
>>> zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc.  I'm not
>>>sure
>>> about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be
>>> anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially
>>>and
>>> specifically any commercial harvesting.  An initial idea as an example
>>>of
>>> what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a
>>> snapshot of what's going on over some defined period of time, or
>>>concepts
>>> most closely associated with a particular term, or an overlap analysis
>>> against one of the library science databases.  Stuff like that.
>>>
>>> Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
>>>but
>>> I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> --
>>>
>>> --**--**
>>> 
>>> *Paul Orkiszewski*
>>> Coordinator of Library Technology Services / Associate Professor
>>> University Library
>>> Appalachian State University
>>> 218 College Street
>>> P.O. Box 32026
>>> Boone, NC 28608-2026
>>>
>>> E-mail: orkiszews...@appstate.edu
>>> Phone: 828 262 6588
>>> Fax: 828 262 2797
>>> --**--**
>>> 
>>>
>>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Studying the email list

2012-06-05 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be 
available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request 
to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without 
even having to ask?  Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the 
archives to use them for whatever research they want.


On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:

I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be
interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your IRB
to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can
require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results.

Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical
issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet Researchers:
http://aoir.org/

Edward

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski
wrote:


Hi all,

I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying how
concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or
non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual
implementations and practices in the broader library community, the
zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc.  I'm not sure
about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be
anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially and
specifically any commercial harvesting.  An initial idea as an example of
what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a
snapshot of what's going on over some defined period of time, or concepts
most closely associated with a particular term, or an overlap analysis
against one of the library science databases.  Stuff like that.

Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list, but
I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.

Cheers,

Paul
--

--**--**

*Paul Orkiszewski*
Coordinator of Library Technology Services / Associate Professor
University Library
Appalachian State University
218 College Street
P.O. Box 32026
Boone, NC 28608-2026

E-mail: orkiszews...@appstate.edu
Phone: 828 262 6588
Fax: 828 262 2797
--**--**