Re: moving code from sandbox to proper - best practice?

2005-05-23 Thread Mario Ivankovits

Hi!

I wanted to start the move of VFS from sandbox to proper and wasnt aware 
that these questions are not solved yet.



The main question that needs resolving is:
* should the code be MOVED from sandbox to proper, or COPIED?
 

I would like to tag the current sandbox to /tags/sandbox ...

I think my preference would be
* move the existing code to {proj}/tags/sandbox
 

... and then MOVE it to proper.


* create a new sandbox/{proj} directory, containing just a README
  that points to the new project.
 

I guess the last statement was not to leave any clutter.
I do not have any strong preferences here, but I think this README is 
not needet as a active developer knows whats going on.


Should I copy the page 
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MovingFromSandboxToProper to 
MovingFromSandboxToProperSVN and record all my steps there?


---
Mario


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Re: moving code from sandbox to proper - best practice?

2005-05-13 Thread Dirk Verbeeck
I disagree, README is just clutter and should be removed.
We send out announcements on the mailing list and if people miss that 
they can look at the website.
The complete list of components if on the commons homepage so with one 
click you have a full overview.

-- Dirk
Rory Winston wrote:
Good question. We did look at doing a sandbox cleanup when it was migrated from 
CVS to SVN. I remember doing a list of dead projects that were still in 
sandbox. However, I agree that having a sandbox/{project} dir with at the very 
least a README pointing to the new location (for promoted components) would be 
useful.

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Hi,
The moving from sandbox to proper wiki page needs updating, as it is
all CVS based.
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MovingFromSandboxToProper
The main question that needs resolving is:
* should the code be MOVED from sandbox to proper, or COPIED?
Moving the code means that links to the old location break. But copying
the code means that links to the old stuff don't give any indication
that the main development is now happening elsewhere.
What do people think the best practice is for sandbox-proper promotion?
I think my preference would be
* move the existing code to {proj}/tags/sandbox
* copy to {proj}/trunk
* create a new sandbox/{proj} directory, containing just a README
  that points to the new project.
That way, all the sandbox code vanishes from its old location, avoiding
any confusion. But users of the sandbox stuff at least get a hint where
the new stuff is.
The main disadvantage is clutter left in the sandbox directory.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Simon

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Re: moving code from sandbox to proper - best practice?

2005-05-13 Thread Mattias J
I think I agree with this. I believe it is better to remove the entire 
sandbox directory, so that people notice it has moved (the website says 
where) and can change the SVN repository in use (that can be done; can't it?).

At 2005-05-13 10:10, you wrote:
I disagree, README is just clutter and should be removed.
We send out announcements on the mailing list and if people miss that they 
can look at the website.
The complete list of components if on the commons homepage so with one 
click you have a full overview.

-- Dirk
Rory Winston wrote:
Good question. We did look at doing a sandbox cleanup when it was 
migrated from CVS to SVN. I remember doing a list of dead projects that 
were still in sandbox. However, I agree that having a sandbox/{project} 
dir with at the very least a README pointing to the new location (for 
promoted components) would be useful.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
The moving from sandbox to proper wiki page needs updating, as it is
all CVS based.
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MovingFromSandboxToProper
The main question that needs resolving is:
* should the code be MOVED from sandbox to proper, or COPIED?
Moving the code means that links to the old location break. But copying
the code means that links to the old stuff don't give any indication
that the main development is now happening elsewhere.
What do people think the best practice is for sandbox-proper promotion?
I think my preference would be
* move the existing code to {proj}/tags/sandbox
* copy to {proj}/trunk
* create a new sandbox/{proj} directory, containing just a README
  that points to the new project.
That way, all the sandbox code vanishes from its old location, avoiding
any confusion. But users of the sandbox stuff at least get a hint where
the new stuff is.
The main disadvantage is clutter left in the sandbox directory.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Simon

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moving code from sandbox to proper - best practice?

2005-05-12 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi,

The moving from sandbox to proper wiki page needs updating, as it is
all CVS based.


http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MovingFromSandboxToProper

The main question that needs resolving is:
 * should the code be MOVED from sandbox to proper, or COPIED?

Moving the code means that links to the old location break. But copying
the code means that links to the old stuff don't give any indication
that the main development is now happening elsewhere.
 
What do people think the best practice is for sandbox-proper promotion?

I think my preference would be
 * move the existing code to {proj}/tags/sandbox
 * copy to {proj}/trunk
 * create a new sandbox/{proj} directory, containing just a README
   that points to the new project.

That way, all the sandbox code vanishes from its old location, avoiding
any confusion. But users of the sandbox stuff at least get a hint where
the new stuff is.

The main disadvantage is clutter left in the sandbox directory.


Thoughts?

Regards,

Simon


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Re: moving code from sandbox to proper - best practice?

2005-05-12 Thread Rory Winston
Good question. We did look at doing a sandbox cleanup when it was migrated from 
CVS to SVN. I remember doing a list of dead projects that were still in 
sandbox. However, I agree that having a sandbox/{project} dir with at the very 
least a README pointing to the new location (for promoted components) would be 
useful.




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 Hi,
 
 The moving from sandbox to proper wiki page needs updating, as it is
 all CVS based.
 
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MovingFromSandboxToProper
 
 The main question that needs resolving is:
  * should the code be MOVED from sandbox to proper, or COPIED?
 
 Moving the code means that links to the old location break. But copying
 the code means that links to the old stuff don't give any indication
 that the main development is now happening elsewhere.
  
 What do people think the best practice is for sandbox-proper promotion?
 
 I think my preference would be
  * move the existing code to {proj}/tags/sandbox
  * copy to {proj}/trunk
  * create a new sandbox/{proj} directory, containing just a README
that points to the new project.
 
 That way, all the sandbox code vanishes from its old location, avoiding
 any confusion. But users of the sandbox stuff at least get a hint where
 the new stuff is.
 
 The main disadvantage is clutter left in the sandbox directory.
 
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Regards,
 
 Simon
 
 
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Re: moving code from sandbox to proper - best practice?

2005-05-12 Thread Rory Winston
Good question. We did look at doing a sandbox cleanup when it was migrated from 
CVS to SVN. I remember doing a list of dead projects that were still in 
sandbox. However, I agree that having a sandbox/{project} dir with at the very 
least a README pointing to the new location (for promoted components) would be 
useful.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 The moving from sandbox to proper wiki page needs updating, as it is
 all CVS based.
 
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MovingFromSandboxToProper
 
 The main question that needs resolving is:
  * should the code be MOVED from sandbox to proper, or COPIED?
 
 Moving the code means that links to the old location break. But copying
 the code means that links to the old stuff don't give any indication
 that the main development is now happening elsewhere.
  
 What do people think the best practice is for sandbox-proper promotion?
 
 I think my preference would be
  * move the existing code to {proj}/tags/sandbox
  * copy to {proj}/trunk
  * create a new sandbox/{proj} directory, containing just a README
that points to the new project.
 
 That way, all the sandbox code vanishes from its old location, avoiding
 any confusion. But users of the sandbox stuff at least get a hint where
 the new stuff is.
 
 The main disadvantage is clutter left in the sandbox directory.
 
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Regards,
 
 Simon
 
 
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