RE: [VOTE][PROPOSAL][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta Level

2004-04-14 Thread Kalnichevski, Oleg
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Adrian,
The message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] may not have gone through, as this is a restricted 
list (PMC members only). I believe we should try sending the proposal to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] It appears the voting on HiveMind promotion, for instance, was held on that 
mailing list

Oleg

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From: Adrian Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Fwd: [VOTE][PROPOSAL][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta
Level



Hi all,
Recently the Commons HttpClient project voted on a proposal to move
HttpClient out of Jakarta Commons to become a full Jakarta subproject.
The result of the vote is below.  It's our understanding that the
Jakarta PMC now needs to vote on the proposal as well.

Please advise us of any step in this process we're missing.

Regards,

Adrian Sutton.


Begin forwarded message:

 From: Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 29 March 2004 8:47:16 PM
 To: Commons HttpClient Project
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [VOTE][PROPOSAL][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta Level
 Reply-To: Commons HttpClient Project
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The vote has passed.  We will put forth the proposal below to the
 Jakarta
 PMC to move HttpClient to a Jakarta level project.  The vote details
 are
 below:

 +1 votes -
 Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Michael Becke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dIon Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 +0 votes -
 Ortwin Glück [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Vote thread -
 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=commons-
 httpclient-de
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfromh1919


 (0) RATIONALE
 HTTP is the main protocol used today on the internet.  Although the JDK
 includes basic support for building HTTP-aware client applications, it
 doesn't provide the flexibility or ease of use needed for many
 projects.

 The current package in Jakarta-Commons is a widely used implementation
 with
 a strong community behind it.  The size of it's community and it's
 project
 has significantly outgrown the commons project and a move to a Jakarta
 level
 project would provide better support for that community and for the on
 going
 development of HttpClient.

 (1) SCOPE
 The project shall create and maintain a Java library implementing the
 client
 side of the HTTP 1.0 and 1.1 protocol, as defined in RFC 1945, RFC
 2616 and
 RFC 2617.

 HttpClient also supports the following RFCs.

 * RFC 2109 for HTTP state management mechanism (Cookies) - an upgrade
 to RFC
 2965 is planned for a future version of HttpClient

 * RFC 2396 Uniform Resoruce Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax

 * RFC 1867 Form-based File Upload in HTML

 The package should:

 * Have an API which should be as simple to use as possible
 * Be as easy to extend as possible
 * Provide unconditional support for HTTP/1.1

 The package is quite different from the HTTP client provided as part
 of the
 JDK (java.net.HttpURLConnection), as it focuses on the HTTP methods
 being
 sent (instead of making that transparent to the user), and generally
 allows
 more interaction with the lower level connection.  The JDK client is
 also
 not very intuitive to use.

 The package is used by a wide range of projects both within the ASF
 and from
 third parties.  These include:

 * Jakarta Slide
 * Jakarta Commons Latka
 * Nortel Networks
 * HtmlUnit
 * Jakarta Cactus
 * JSR 147
 * NOSE Applied Intelligence ag
 * MindIQ's Design-a-Course
 * ContactOffice
 * Newknow
 * de4d2c
 * Furies
 * Term Highlighting for Verity Ultraseek search results
 * Mule - Universal Message Objects
 * many more.

 (1.5) Interaction With Other Packages

 HttpClient relies on:

 * Java Development Kit (Version 1.2 or later; 1.3 or later recommended)
 * Jakarta commons-logging (Version 1.0 or later)
 * Jakarta commons-codec (Version 1.2 or later)

 (2) INITIAL SOURCE OF THE PACKAGE

 The initial codebase exists as a sub-project of Jakarta-Commons, in the
 httpclient subdirectory of the jakarta-commons cvs tree.

 The proposed package name for the new sub-project is
 org.apache.httpclient.

 (3) REQUIRED JAKARTA RESOURCES

 * CVS Repository - New module, jakarta-httpclient in the CVS
 repository.

 * 

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta Level

2004-04-06 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
I believe only Jeff Jandalf

Oleg

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 07:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How many of us are on the PMC?
 
 I know I am
 --
 dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
 
 
 
 Michael Becke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/04/2004 11:58:43 AM:
 
  Nope.  I think we just need to submit the proposal to the PMC.
  
  Mike
  
  On Apr 5, 2004, at 6:29 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
  
   Folks,
   What our next step in this regard is going to be? Is there anything 
   left
   to be done / discussed / agreed upon?
  
   Oleg
  
   On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 12:47, Adrian Sutton wrote:
   The vote has passed.  We will put forth the proposal below to the 
   Jakarta
   PMC to move HttpClient to a Jakarta level project.  The vote details 
   are
   below:
  
   +1 votes -
   Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Michael Becke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   dIon Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   +0 votes -
   Ortwin Glück [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Vote thread -
   http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=commons-
   httpclient-de
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=681919
  
  
   (0) RATIONALE
   HTTP is the main protocol used today on the internet.  Although the 
   JDK
   includes basic support for building HTTP-aware client applications, 
 it
   doesn't provide the flexibility or ease of use needed for many 
   projects.
  
   The current package in Jakarta-Commons is a widely used 
   implementation with
   a strong community behind it.  The size of it's community and it's 
   project
   has significantly outgrown the commons project and a move to a 
   Jakarta level
   project would provide better support for that community and for the 
   on going
   development of HttpClient.
  
   (1) SCOPE
   The project shall create and maintain a Java library implementing the 
  
   client
   side of the HTTP 1.0 and 1.1 protocol, as defined in RFC 1945, RFC 
   2616 and
   RFC 2617.
  
   HttpClient also supports the following RFCs.
  
   * RFC 2109 for HTTP state management mechanism (Cookies) - an upgrade 
  
   to RFC
   2965 is planned for a future version of HttpClient
  
   * RFC 2396 Uniform Resoruce Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax
  
   * RFC 1867 Form-based File Upload in HTML
  
   The package should:
  
   * Have an API which should be as simple to use as possible
   * Be as easy to extend as possible
   * Provide unconditional support for HTTP/1.1
  
   The package is quite different from the HTTP client provided as part 
   of the
   JDK (java.net.HttpURLConnection), as it focuses on the HTTP methods 
   being
   sent (instead of making that transparent to the user), and generally 
   allows
   more interaction with the lower level connection.  The JDK client is 
   also
   not very intuitive to use.
  
   The package is used by a wide range of projects both within the ASF 
   and from
   third parties.  These include:
  
   * Jakarta Slide
   * Jakarta Commons Latka
   * Nortel Networks
   * HtmlUnit
   * Jakarta Cactus
   * JSR 147
   * NOSE Applied Intelligence ag
   * MindIQ's Design-a-Course
   * ContactOffice
   * Newknow
   * de4d2c
   * Furies
   * Term Highlighting for Verity Ultraseek search results
   * Mule - Universal Message Objects
   * many more.
  
   (1.5) Interaction With Other Packages
  
   HttpClient relies on:
  
   * Java Development Kit (Version 1.2 or later; 1.3 or later 
   recommended)
   * Jakarta commons-logging (Version 1.0 or later)
   * Jakarta commons-codec (Version 1.2 or later)
  
   (2) INITIAL SOURCE OF THE PACKAGE
  
   The initial codebase exists as a sub-project of Jakarta-Commons, in 
   the
   httpclient subdirectory of the jakarta-commons cvs tree.
  
   The proposed package name for the new sub-project is 
   org.apache.httpclient.
  
   (3) REQUIRED JAKARTA RESOURCES
  
   * CVS Repository - New module, jakarta-httpclient in the CVS 
   repository.
  
   * Initial Committers - The list is provided below.  All of the 
   proposed
   committers are currently jakarta-commons committers.
  
   * Mailing List - Two new mailing lists will be required:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   These will be used for developer discussions and user discussions
   respectively.  CVS commit messages will be sent to the httpclient-dev 
  
   list.
  
   * Bugzilla - New product category HttpClient, with appropriate 
   version
   identifiers as needed.  Existing bugs in the HttpClient component 
   under the
   Commons product category will need to be migrated.
  
   (4) INITIAL COMMITTERS
   The initial committers on the HttpClient component shall be:
  
   * Michael Becke
   * Jeff Dever
   * dIon Gillard
   * Ortwin Glück
   * Oleg Kalnichevski
   * Adrian Sutton
  
  
   Adrian Sutton
   --
   Intencha tomorrow's technology today
   Ph: 38478913 0422236329
   Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent
   Holland Park West 4121
   Australia QLD
   www.intencha.com
  
  
   

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta Level

2004-04-05 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
Folks,
What our next step in this regard is going to be? Is there anything left
to be done / discussed / agreed upon?

Oleg

On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 12:47, Adrian Sutton wrote:
 The vote has passed.  We will put forth the proposal below to the Jakarta
 PMC to move HttpClient to a Jakarta level project.  The vote details are
 below:
 
 +1 votes -
 Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Michael Becke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dIon Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 +0 votes -
 Ortwin Glück [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Vote thread -   
 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=commons-httpclient-de
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=681919
 
 
 (0) RATIONALE
 HTTP is the main protocol used today on the internet.  Although the JDK
 includes basic support for building HTTP-aware client applications, it
 doesn't provide the flexibility or ease of use needed for many projects.
 
 The current package in Jakarta-Commons is a widely used implementation with
 a strong community behind it.  The size of it's community and it's project
 has significantly outgrown the commons project and a move to a Jakarta level
 project would provide better support for that community and for the on going
 development of HttpClient.
 
 (1) SCOPE
 The project shall create and maintain a Java library implementing the client
 side of the HTTP 1.0 and 1.1 protocol, as defined in RFC 1945, RFC 2616 and
 RFC 2617.
 
 HttpClient also supports the following RFCs.
 
 * RFC 2109 for HTTP state management mechanism (Cookies) - an upgrade to RFC
 2965 is planned for a future version of HttpClient
 
 * RFC 2396 Uniform Resoruce Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax
 
 * RFC 1867 Form-based File Upload in HTML
 
 The package should:
 
 * Have an API which should be as simple to use as possible
 * Be as easy to extend as possible
 * Provide unconditional support for HTTP/1.1
 
 The package is quite different from the HTTP client provided as part of the
 JDK (java.net.HttpURLConnection), as it focuses on the HTTP methods being
 sent (instead of making that transparent to the user), and generally allows
 more interaction with the lower level connection.  The JDK client is also
 not very intuitive to use.
 
 The package is used by a wide range of projects both within the ASF and from
 third parties.  These include:
 
 * Jakarta Slide
 * Jakarta Commons Latka
 * Nortel Networks
 * HtmlUnit
 * Jakarta Cactus
 * JSR 147
 * NOSE Applied Intelligence ag
 * MindIQ's Design-a-Course
 * ContactOffice
 * Newknow
 * de4d2c
 * Furies
 * Term Highlighting for Verity Ultraseek search results
 * Mule - Universal Message Objects
 * many more.
 
 (1.5) Interaction With Other Packages
 
 HttpClient relies on:
 
 * Java Development Kit (Version 1.2 or later; 1.3 or later recommended)
 * Jakarta commons-logging (Version 1.0 or later)
 * Jakarta commons-codec (Version 1.2 or later)
 
 (2) INITIAL SOURCE OF THE PACKAGE
 
 The initial codebase exists as a sub-project of Jakarta-Commons, in the
 httpclient subdirectory of the jakarta-commons cvs tree.
 
 The proposed package name for the new sub-project is org.apache.httpclient.
 
 (3) REQUIRED JAKARTA RESOURCES
 
 * CVS Repository - New module, jakarta-httpclient in the CVS repository.
 
 * Initial Committers - The list is provided below.  All of the proposed
 committers are currently jakarta-commons committers.
 
 * Mailing List - Two new mailing lists will be required:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 These will be used for developer discussions and user discussions
 respectively.  CVS commit messages will be sent to the httpclient-dev list.
 
 * Bugzilla - New product category HttpClient, with appropriate version
 identifiers as needed.  Existing bugs in the HttpClient component under the
 Commons product category will need to be migrated.
 
 (4) INITIAL COMMITTERS
 The initial committers on the HttpClient component shall be:
 
 * Michael Becke
 * Jeff Dever
 * dIon Gillard
 * Ortwin Glück
 * Oleg Kalnichevski
 * Adrian Sutton
 
 
 Adrian Sutton
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Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta Level

2004-04-05 Thread dion
How many of us are on the PMC?

I know I am
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting



Michael Becke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/04/2004 11:58:43 AM:

 Nope.  I think we just need to submit the proposal to the PMC.
 
 Mike
 
 On Apr 5, 2004, at 6:29 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
 
  Folks,
  What our next step in this regard is going to be? Is there anything 
  left
  to be done / discussed / agreed upon?
 
  Oleg
 
  On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 12:47, Adrian Sutton wrote:
  The vote has passed.  We will put forth the proposal below to the 
  Jakarta
  PMC to move HttpClient to a Jakarta level project.  The vote details 
  are
  below:
 
  +1 votes -
  Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Michael Becke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  dIon Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  +0 votes -
  Ortwin Glück [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Vote thread -
  http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=commons- 
  httpclient-de
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=681919
 
 
  (0) RATIONALE
  HTTP is the main protocol used today on the internet.  Although the 
  JDK
  includes basic support for building HTTP-aware client applications, 
it
  doesn't provide the flexibility or ease of use needed for many 
  projects.
 
  The current package in Jakarta-Commons is a widely used 
  implementation with
  a strong community behind it.  The size of it's community and it's 
  project
  has significantly outgrown the commons project and a move to a 
  Jakarta level
  project would provide better support for that community and for the 
  on going
  development of HttpClient.
 
  (1) SCOPE
  The project shall create and maintain a Java library implementing the 
 
  client
  side of the HTTP 1.0 and 1.1 protocol, as defined in RFC 1945, RFC 
  2616 and
  RFC 2617.
 
  HttpClient also supports the following RFCs.
 
  * RFC 2109 for HTTP state management mechanism (Cookies) - an upgrade 
 
  to RFC
  2965 is planned for a future version of HttpClient
 
  * RFC 2396 Uniform Resoruce Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax
 
  * RFC 1867 Form-based File Upload in HTML
 
  The package should:
 
  * Have an API which should be as simple to use as possible
  * Be as easy to extend as possible
  * Provide unconditional support for HTTP/1.1
 
  The package is quite different from the HTTP client provided as part 
  of the
  JDK (java.net.HttpURLConnection), as it focuses on the HTTP methods 
  being
  sent (instead of making that transparent to the user), and generally 
  allows
  more interaction with the lower level connection.  The JDK client is 
  also
  not very intuitive to use.
 
  The package is used by a wide range of projects both within the ASF 
  and from
  third parties.  These include:
 
  * Jakarta Slide
  * Jakarta Commons Latka
  * Nortel Networks
  * HtmlUnit
  * Jakarta Cactus
  * JSR 147
  * NOSE Applied Intelligence ag
  * MindIQ's Design-a-Course
  * ContactOffice
  * Newknow
  * de4d2c
  * Furies
  * Term Highlighting for Verity Ultraseek search results
  * Mule - Universal Message Objects
  * many more.
 
  (1.5) Interaction With Other Packages
 
  HttpClient relies on:
 
  * Java Development Kit (Version 1.2 or later; 1.3 or later 
  recommended)
  * Jakarta commons-logging (Version 1.0 or later)
  * Jakarta commons-codec (Version 1.2 or later)
 
  (2) INITIAL SOURCE OF THE PACKAGE
 
  The initial codebase exists as a sub-project of Jakarta-Commons, in 
  the
  httpclient subdirectory of the jakarta-commons cvs tree.
 
  The proposed package name for the new sub-project is 
  org.apache.httpclient.
 
  (3) REQUIRED JAKARTA RESOURCES
 
  * CVS Repository - New module, jakarta-httpclient in the CVS 
  repository.
 
  * Initial Committers - The list is provided below.  All of the 
  proposed
  committers are currently jakarta-commons committers.
 
  * Mailing List - Two new mailing lists will be required:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  These will be used for developer discussions and user discussions
  respectively.  CVS commit messages will be sent to the httpclient-dev 
 
  list.
 
  * Bugzilla - New product category HttpClient, with appropriate 
  version
  identifiers as needed.  Existing bugs in the HttpClient component 
  under the
  Commons product category will need to be migrated.
 
  (4) INITIAL COMMITTERS
  The initial committers on the HttpClient component shall be:
 
  * Michael Becke
  * Jeff Dever
  * dIon Gillard
  * Ortwin Glück
  * Oleg Kalnichevski
  * Adrian Sutton
 
 
  Adrian Sutton
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Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta Level

2004-03-29 Thread Adrian Sutton
On 29/3/04 8:47 PM, Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The vote has passed.  We will put forth the proposal below to the Jakarta
 PMC to move HttpClient to a Jakarta level project.  The vote details are
 below:

I also want to note that I've received replies from Rodney Waldhoff and
Sung-Gu.  Rodney wants to retain his emeritus committer status but doesn't
currently have time to contribute to HttpClient - I assurred him that he can
return to full active committer status at any stage.

Sung-Gu is keen to rejoin the ranks of active HttpClient committers and
apparently is faxing through his CLA at which point we will likely hear from
him on this list.

Regards,

Adrian Sutton
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Ph: 38478913 0422236329
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