Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
Mike Hodson wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 6:55 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic) a troll. Yet by your condescending attitude you appear to be more troll-like than him. Well deserved; I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation. Was there any value to your content-free posts? No. Then you'd also do well to say nothing instead of throwing around more accusations. I seem to have confused this list with one where open and intelligent discussion takes place regarding the merits or otherwise of OpenMoko and its hardware targets. Clearly you aren't interested in discussing those. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FM radio reception on neo/openmoko and some other questions
Georg wrote: > no only in terms of speakerphone, also the navigational software (as far > as there'll be one) may be connected through it.. There are a lot of > possible ways to use that extension and I personally think that it's a > very useful additional feature . Speaking of navigation, this is interesting, Locosys makes something called Traffic Message Channel (TMC) using the Silicon Labs SI4701 FM tuner RDS feature to gather real-time traffic and weather information. They use an 8051 microcontroller to read the RDS data from SI4701 and convert it into NMEA sentence format, which is of course, also a format used by GPS receivers. So, if you have onboard GPS, and bolt-on FM tuner with RDS, and some processing, you could do something similar. The NMEA part presumably is just to make it somewhat standard, is useful data on its own, but this is quite interesting. http://www.locosystech.com/download/module/TMC-1513_datasheet_v1.1.pdf I'm going to design just a very simple breakout board for the SI4701 to start playing around with it, this RDS stuff is very interesting. Later will make another board with SI4701 and small microcontroller plus audio codec. Microcontroller will read the RDS and also control/configure the FM tuner. Analog audio output would work alone but could also input into Neo or other application. Currently in the middle of switching jobs and residence though, so it may be a short while before I get any boards made. -- Doug ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
On Nov 11, 2007 6:55 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are > discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic) > a troll. Yet by your condescending attitude you appear to be more troll-like than him. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
On Nov 11, 2007 6:50 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Giles Jones wrote: > > HTC Universal? > > Yes, you snipped that part. He snipped out you calling it a UTC Universal. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
andy selby wrote: Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so please check carefully). Since your asking on the openmoko list I'd be surprised if anyone recommends anything but the neo1973 And yet some people are dissatisfied with its specifications and are discussing other phones, so I can easily conclude that your (sic) a troll. As a final point, I'll note I'm a long (long) time embedded and ARM linux developer, so don't mind doing occasional work to improve either kernel or userspace stuff. Yes I can definatly recommend you buy a neo1973 That doesn't follow at all. What is your justification here of the Neo over the HTC Universal in this respect? Also, if you're following up, please don't unnecessarily quote signatures, taglines and bits you aren't responding to. O.K. I wont Thanks, but also not snipping attribution lines would be appreciated. If anyone has anything _constructive_ to reply with and isn't just replying for the sake of making noise, I'd like to hear it. If not, then please don't annoy others with pointless posts. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
Giles Jones wrote: On 11 Nov 2007, at 17:33, Peter Naulls wrote: For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450. HTC Universal? Yes, you snipped that part. If you want one of these get one, but OpenMoko is far from being as reliable and complete as the Windows Mobile OS on it. I have little interest in Windows Mobile, which is another part you snipped. I want Linux, probably OpenMoko. It's a rather large phone, not exactly a fast device (it's a few years out of date now) and the final Neo device will be faster in numerous ways. Well, that's the one helpful thing you posted. But what are we talking? Either a subjective comparison or detailed technical comparison of processor, graphics and bus, memory speeds would be fine. Perhaps a Nokia N800 or N810 is what you need at this time? Or not, not having phone capabilities, which is another requirement you snipped (Skype notwithstanding). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
> Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that > meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so > please check carefully). Since your asking on the openmoko list I'd be surprised if anyone recommends anything but the neo1973 > As a final point, I'll note I'm a long (long) > time embedded and ARM linux developer, so don't mind doing occasional > work to improve either kernel or userspace stuff. Yes I can definatly recommend you buy a neo1973 > Also, if you're following up, please don't uneccesarily quote > signatures, taglines and bits you aren't responding to. O.K. I wont ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons
On 11 Nov 2007, at 17:33, Peter Naulls wrote: For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450. HTC Universal? If you want one of these get one, but OpenMoko is far from being as reliable and complete as the Windows Mobile OS on it. It's a rather large phone, not exactly a fast device (it's a few years out of date now) and the final Neo device will be faster in numerous ways. Perhaps a Nokia N800 or N810 is what you need at this time? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko phone comparisons
I, like many others have been following the Neo development with interest, but I still have some reservations. No, it's not about the quad band issue that so many here in the US feel compelled to complain about - I'm in Southern California and would be using T-Mobile. I am however in the aproximately 1% (allow me some exageration here) of the population of the Western world lacking a mobile phone. For me to get one requires considerable justification. For one, the extortionate situation in the US is a considerable barrier, although I'd almost certainly use T-Mobile pay-as-you-go which would cost me about $100/year (I make very few calls). On the other hand, the Neo does provide some considerable justification, but I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, it's still tiny) and the ruggedness of the device and of course the device. The other phone I'm considering in preference which also runs OpenMoko is the UTC universal (plenty of options under 'Jasjar' on ebay). My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), runs Linux, wireless access and can make occasional phone calls. The UTC has the benefit of a physical keyboard, although the phone is relatively large - also means a larger screen. Also, its wireless is limited to 11Mbit (that's not such an issue though). One downside is although the device has near comprehensive Linux driver support, it isn't open hardware, and there could be issues (not that the Neo doesn't at present but those are being worked on). For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450. Anyone willing to placate my concerns, or point out other phones that meet my requirements (must fill _all_ the requirements I listed, so please check carefully). As a final point, I'll note I'm a long (long) time embedded and ARM linux developer, so don't mind doing occasional work to improve either kernel or userspace stuff. Also, if you're following up, please don't uneccesarily quote signatures, taglines and bits you aren't responding to. Thanks in advance. -- Peter Naulls - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.chocky.org/ RISC OS Community Wiki - add your own content | http://www.riscos.info/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release date of GTA02
No, it's not known yet when the GTA-02 will be available, but it looks like december/january. At least that's what the openmoko team is trying if I believe rightly? And no, it can't be preordered yet. Hope it will be available soon :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Release date of GTA02
Hi to all, Does anyone know when the GTA02-Model will be released? Can it be ordered or preordered anywhere at the moment? Thanks. BR Thomas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery time
> > * No terminal. Ugh. > > Do you really need a terminal app on a phone? > Most phones do not have a term on them. besides, it is opensource, so > anyone could get one working. Any takers? I guess most/all here are geeks. I have to admit that the first thing I want to know before buying a new smart phone is can I use a terminal/ssh on it. pocket putty was a blessing. But I hope much better things will come from this project. Maybe I will try to carve out some time in December... I'm guessing anyone into Linux is going to want this though :) -Pete ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810
On Sunday 11 November 2007 14:21:07 Edwin Lock wrote: > If anyone gets openmoko to run on a nokia 770 tablet, please let me know, > that would be so cool! Just to test OM and not having to use maemo all the > time :) hell, if one get a nice browser going and maybe a calendar sync, it can breath new life into that device ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810
If anyone gets openmoko to run on a nokia 770 tablet, please let me know, that would be so cool! Just to test OM and not having to use maemo all the time :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko on the Nokia N810
On 11/11/07, rakshat hooja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may be a stupid question but is it theoretically possible run openmoko > on a Nokia Internet tablet? I don't know what processor the Nokia N810 uses. > I do know that you can flash with images from maemo.org > It should be possible to run openmoko on N800 with some modifications. Nokia n800 uses a ARM11 series processor ( OMAP2420 by texas intruments). So you need to build openmoko against the required processor. regards VK ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko on the Nokia N810
This may be a stupid question but is it theoretically possible run openmoko on a Nokia Internet tablet? I don't know what processor the Nokia N810 uses. I do know that you can flash with images from maemo.org Rakshat ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
