Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-03-04 Thread Paul Fertser
Steve 'dillo Okay  writes:
> I'm trying to flash my GSM firmware and running into a problem.
> I get to the point where I run the fluid command line and it just  
> sits there.

Basically the idea is that in one terminal you run fluid with right
parameters, and in the other you powercycle the modem. Sometimes
powercycling is needed more than once (while fluid still stays at
(reset target)). And make sure no app accesses GSM. Also i'd recommend
to use the latest stable or any recent andy-tracking kernel, but it's
not strictly necessary.

> Here's the output of what I'm typing in the main window:
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
> gsm.0/power_on
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
> gsm.0/power_on
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo "a...@poff" >/dev/ttySAC0
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 FLUID_FLOWCONTROL=h  
> fluid.exe \
> -oO -b 115200\
>   -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0- 
> moko10.m0

All this steps except starting fluid.exe are not strictly necessary
and i'd recommend to start fluid like that: 

FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -od13,13 -f 

Notice i use ROM bootloader and moko11 firmware.

In the other terminal something like this should be enough:
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
> gsm.0/power_on
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
> gsm.0/power_on
> r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0

If fluid doesn't pass the (reset target) state, repeat this
steps. Basically it's like i described.

Alternatively, try Joerg's uSD automated image:
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz

It works and reliably flashes the firmware for you.

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problem with wifi

2009-03-04 Thread sandilya b

Hi All,
  
   I am having problem while connecting my openmoko Neo FreeRunner 1973 to my 
wifi. I followed the wiki and added my WPA entry in wpa_supplicant file. 
Similarly I followed all the other instructions. Still No results.

I am following this link. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi

When I do 
#ifup eth0 

It keeps telling No lease, failing. What should i do?

-Sandy




  


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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi  4. März 2009 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:32, Joerg Reisenweber  
wrote:
> >>> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
> >> Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
> > 
> > No, no, no. You are right only for GTA02v6. On GTA02v5 (which I have)
> > this has been fixed only for orange and blue LEDs under POWER button.
> > Red AUX button is still power hungry - it is eating 50mA.
> 
> Your mentioned 50mA for the AUX LED is ridiculous. It would burn out
> with this high current. Normal LEDs only use ~20mA and low current LEDs
> ~2mA. 50mA would be for a higher power led which isn't build into the
> freerunner.
> And when you are on battery the AUX led is off by default and even if it
> blinks (like i modified my led behaviour) it isn't really much it uses.
> 
> Ciao,
>  Rainer

The power is consumed by driving a common-emitter transistor driver for LED 
without base resistor. Current flows from GPIO via base to emitter, and it 
for sure had been wiser to drive LED directly from GPIO ;-), instead of 
burning 40mA base current for 10mA collector current. (ballpark numbers)


For the non-fixed AUX LED: I wasn't aware these versions have been sold :-/

cheers
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Bluetooth won't connect

2009-03-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I seem to have version 3.
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Feedback on FSO 5.1

2009-03-04 Thread c_c

Hi,
  I've been using FSO 5.1 for some time now and here is some (late - I know)
feedback. I'm using 5.1 with Qi and the standard kernel.
1.  The snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753, modprobe snd-pcm-oss modules do not
get loaded automatically on startup.
2.  I also need to set up the stereoout.state after startup.
3.  Need to install libmad to get mp3 ringtones working.
4.  After requesting resource Display / CPU and releasing them - automatic
dimming and suspending stops working (I'm using a rule to suspend the
freerunner if it's not charging). I think there is a fix for this already.
5.  Need the devel packages for elementary. I've tried the svn and the new
version has neat sliders. Can we look at moving to the newer version or is
that unlikely because of the probable dependencies on eina/ecore etc? In
that case can we have the devel versions in the repository?
6.  Can you point me to some place where I can read up on how to patch the
build process for FSO packages? I want to patch mplayer to use tremor
instead of libvorbis. It's an option in mplayer (and there might be some
breakage too) but where and how so I start any of such stuff?
7.  Can rules.yaml be made more flexible such as for eg to allow me to use
the aux button to choose amongst three volume settings during a call?
8.  And to have user configurable brightness settings apart from changing
rules.yaml and reloading the rules. (Maybe the values could be picked up
from another file and used thereafter. Just a thought.)
9.  Would like to know how to get my bluetooth headset working in the
interim - till things get all set up in FSO itself. :-)
10.  frameworkd uses upto 70% CPU when changing cells. This is for a brief
period - but 70%? Isn't that too high? Or is that hit because of python -
something we need to live with or are there (possible) methods for reducing
such usage to more acceptable limits?
Thanks.
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Re: [fso] no sound card

2009-03-04 Thread c_c

Hi,

Hans Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> I do no longer seem to have a sound card in my FreeRunner as it is not
> found. The freerunner is running fso milestone 5.1 with opkg update &&
> opkg
> upgrade.
> 
Well, I have this problem too - and I really haven't had the time to pipe up
on the fso or this list. Do the following :-

modprobe snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753
modprobe snd-pcm-oss
alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/stereoout.state restore

 You'll get the sound card back. I keep these lines in a sh script - and use
it everytime I reboot. HTH.
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Bluetooth won't connect

2009-03-04 Thread Carl Lobo
Hi,
Are you using bluez3 or bluez4. Remoko doesn't work with bluez4.
bluetoothd is the daemon for bluez4 and hidd/hcid etc. for bluez3.

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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas B
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:19:07AM +0100, Fox Mulder wrote:
> Andy Green wrote:
> > Johnny Tenfinger is right despite it sounds strange.  On some or all A5s
> > there is no base current limit resistor on the bipolar transistor used
> > to light the AUX LED.
> > 
> > This "50mA" fault current then flows not through the LED (which has a
> > reasonable series current limit resistor), but through the GPIO IO cell
> > and the driver transistor base.
> 
> If this is the problem than it really is a bad design flaw...
> Maybe i should test the AUX LED on my gta02v5 how much current it uses
> when it is on.

Ouch. I just tested mine, and the AUX LED really uses that much (about
50mA). Does a SOP exist to fix this?

Regards,
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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Your mentioned 50mA for the AUX LED is ridiculous.

It is.  Sadly it's also true.

> And when you are on battery the AUX led is off by default and even if it
> blinks (like i modified my led behaviour) it isn't really much it uses.

Indeed, it's not lit very often... I'll let you guess why that is.


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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Except that those ID3 tags have a clear meaning, and "fixing them" to
>> get the sorting to work may imply "breaking them" in the sense that the
>> info they carry is not quite correct any more.
>> Tho, I guess it depends on the details: in which way did you change the
>> ID3 info to solve such problems?

> No, I don't break them for sorting to work, Simply I correct them so I avoid 
> ambiguities.

> For antologies (or double/triple albums)
> * Put the same "disk name","year" and "artist name" labels in every track, 
> * Set "track number" and "track name" labels for every track
> * Set "disk number" label for diferenciating tracks from a disk from tracks 
> from another

> For compilations,
> * Put the same "disk name" and "year" in every track
> * Set "artist name", "track number" and "track name" for every track
> * Set "disk number" if needed

> That way, my labels are *completely correct*, and every well behaved player 
> can order my tracks by album...

Yes, those settings are correct, but they still won't work right if you
have several compilation albums of the same year with the same title.


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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Fox Mulder
Andy Green wrote:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> |> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:32, Joerg Reisenweber 
> wrote:
> |>>> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
> |>> Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
> |> No, no, no. You are right only for GTA02v6. On GTA02v5 (which I have)
> |> this has been fixed only for orange and blue LEDs under POWER button.
> |> Red AUX button is still power hungry - it is eating 50mA.
> |
> | Your mentioned 50mA for the AUX LED is ridiculous. It would burn out
> | with this high current. Normal LEDs only use ~20mA and low current LEDs
> | ~2mA. 50mA would be for a higher power led which isn't build into the
> | freerunner.
> | And when you are on battery the AUX led is off by default and even if it
> | blinks (like i modified my led behaviour) it isn't really much it uses.
> 
> Johnny Tenfinger is right despite it sounds strange.  On some or all A5s
> there is no base current limit resistor on the bipolar transistor used
> to light the AUX LED.
> 
> This "50mA" fault current then flows not through the LED (which has a
> reasonable series current limit resistor), but through the GPIO IO cell
> and the driver transistor base.

If this is the problem than it really is a bad design flaw...
Maybe i should test the AUX LED on my gta02v5 how much current it uses
when it is on.

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Re: [fso] no sound card

2009-03-04 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 05:23:34PM +0100, GNUtoo wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 16:17 +, Hans Zimmerman wrote:
> > 
> > Any pointers where to look for the problem/solution?
> on SHR i had a problem with sound too:
> no /dev/dsp was present

   That might not be a sign of trouble because /dev/dsp is the old Open
Sound System (OSS) interface. These days, ALSA is the norm and lives in the
/dev/snd directory. Three useful commands to try out (and example output
with just the built in sound card available):

$ lsmod | grep -E -e '^sound|^snd[_ ]'
snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 8808  0 
snd_soc_s3c24xx_i2s 4568  1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753
snd_soc_s3c24xx 5192  1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753
snd_soc_wm8753 34228  2 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753
snd_soc_core   46548  4 
snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_s3c24xx_i2s,snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_wm8753
snd_pcm_oss45736  0 
snd_mixer_oss  15304  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm75564  4 snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  21212  1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc  6824  1 snd_pcm
snd50852  8 
snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_wm8753,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore   6796  1 snd

(The modules snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss are for the kernel level OSS
emulation.)

$ ls -l /dev/snd
total 0
crw-rw 1 root audio 116,  0 Jan 30 00:04 controlC0
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 24 Jan 30 00:04 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 16 Jan 30 00:04 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 25 Jan 30 00:04 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 17 Jan 30 00:04 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 Jan 30 00:04 timer

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [neo1973gta02   ]: WM8753 - neo1973-gta02
  neo1973-gta02 (WM8753)

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Re: AGPS question

2009-03-04 Thread Nicolas Pichon
Robin Paulson wrote:
>> My brother has N95 with Agps and he does not have to provide his
>> location while using agps service.
> 
> it's probably using cell towers to guess at his location
> 

Right. I have a N95 too, and to have AGPS, I had to configure an AGPS 
server from my phone operator (SFR). I think they give the coordinate of 
the cell I'm associated to (easy for them to fetch this information).

I'll take a look to see if this AGPS server can be used on my FR too.

Nicolas.

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread MarcO'Chapeau
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:41:59 +0100, David Garabana Barro
 wrote:
>> Because you find "changing ID3 tags" to be simpler than "changing
>> file names".
> 
> No, because I already have all my music with correct id3 tags, but not
with
> 
> homogenous filenames. Doing nothing is simpler than renaming my 15000+ 
> songs :)

While I do agree with you that Id3 is the way to go, renaming 15000+ tracks
properly is not that hard... At least with the right software. You might
want to try out a software named EasyTAG. Among a huge amount of features,
it is able to name files based on the Id3 info in them :)

http://easytag.sourceforge.net/

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Re: AGPS question

2009-03-04 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/3/5 Leonti Bielski :
> I have a second question:
>
> In agps package for u-blox you have to provide approximate location of
> your phone and radius (for example 150 kms).
> What does it change? If I provide some longitude and latitude and set
> some huge radius will it affect anything?
> Is it possible to eliminate it at all?
>
> My brother has N95 with Agps and he does not have to provide his
> location while using agps service.

it's probably using cell towers to guess at his location

there's an app/database being developed so we can do this

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Mércores, 4 de Marzo de 2009, Stefan Monnier escribiu:

> Except that those ID3 tags have a clear meaning, and "fixing them" to
> get the sorting to work may imply "breaking them" in the sense that the
> info they carry is not quite correct any more.
> Tho, I guess it depends on the details: in which way did you change the
> ID3 info to solve such problems?

No, I don't break them for sorting to work, Simply I correct them so I avoid 
ambiguities.

For antologies (or double/triple albums)
* Put the same "disk name","year" and "artist name" labels in every track, 
* Set "track number" and "track name" labels for every track
* Set "disk number" label for diferenciating tracks from a disk from tracks 
from another

For compilations,
* Put the same "disk name" and "year" in every track
* Set "artist name", "track number" and "track name" for every track
* Set "disk number" if needed

That way, my labels are *completely correct*, and every well behaved player 
can order my tracks by album...

> I name them "- " and it works great ;-)

Yes, but I have not them named that way ;)

> >> sorting "by file name" really turns out to be a very good solution.
> >
> > Not for me ;)
>
> Because you find "changing ID3 tags" to be simpler than "changing
> file names".

No, because I already have all my music with correct id3 tags, but not with 
homogenous filenames. Doing nothing is simpler than renaming my 15000+ 
songs :)

> An algorithm that uses both ID3 tags and filenames (mostly just
> directory names, actually) should be able to accomodate all situations.

I hope so

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Pander
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> Actually, if you only use ID3 info, it's very difficult to do a good job
>>> of sorting files: it's basically impossible to reliably figure out which
>>> songs are part of the same album and which aren't.  You can use
>> I've solved all those problems the first times I opened amarok, and
>> now it's a  pleasure searching for some song, artist, disk, track...
>>> heuristics which will work OK in many cases, but sooner or later you'll
>>> bump into some songs whose "album" tag says (say) "Anthology" and which
>>> are really divided into 4 different albums, some of which are "well
>> When you find one, you can allways change track's id3 :)
> 
> Except that those ID3 tags have a clear meaning, and "fixing them" to
> get the sorting to work may imply "breaking them" in the sense that the
> info they carry is not quite correct any more.
> Tho, I guess it depends on the details: in which way did you change the
> ID3 info to solve such problems?
> 
>>> behaved" (same artist and year for all their songs), and the others are
>>> compilations where every song has a different year/genre/artist.
>> Sorting by name has also problems.
> 
> No doubt.
> 
>> If you have songs from several disks or a double album in the same
>> folder, you  can finish with this playlist:
> 
>> - track 1, disk 1
>> - track 1, disk 2
>> ...
>> - track 1, disk n
>> - track 2, disk 1
>> - track 2, disk 2
>> ...
> 
> I name them "- " and it works great ;-)
> 
>>> sorting "by file name" really turns out to be a very good solution.
>> Not for me ;)
> 
> Because you find "changing ID3 tags" to be simpler than "changing
> file names".
> 
>> I still think that offering several sortings is the way to go
> 
> Well, ... it's more work.
> An algorithm that uses both ID3 tags and filenames (mostly just
> directory names, actually) should be able to accomodate all situations.

Since many people use ID3 differently and place importance on the tags
in different ways, this needs to be configurable. Please see my post
with the comment that the filename (path without intelligent breaking
down into artist, album etc.) should be used a fall back when no ID3
tags are available.

To encourage the use of proper ID3 tags, I would not want to encourage
the interpretation of the path naming schemes but propose that
customisable way (see other post) of placing highest importance on the
ID3 info.

> 
> 
> 
> Stefan
> 
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AW: AW: New accelerometer application, that draws the current perpendicular line and angle

2009-03-04 Thread hab keen oh ne
Im sorry I havent tested, what version of SDL is actually necessary, I just 
used the latest one provided by SHR. Just execute 
opkg install libsdl-1.2-0 libsdl-ttf
opkg install http://www.opkg.org/packages/perpendicular_0.1_armv4t.ipk 
-force-depends
in case your repo doesnt contain a current version. Should work with older 
ones, too, I guess.
BTW: I would be glad if anyone came up with an idea for an icon(or even with an 
icon), as Im not the expert in graphics and regularly fail in creating nice 
stuff^^, because I will soon update to a version needing less resources(at the 
moment, there is no idle time during the execution, it was just planned as a 
little test app) and then it would be great to offer the ipk with a proper icon 
for a .desktop file.
Greetings,
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Von: wp 
An: List for Openmoko community discussion 
Gesendet: Dienstag, den 3. März 2009, 23:06:12 Uhr
Betreff: Re: AW: New accelerometer application, that draws the current  
perpendicular line and angle

Just install them from openmoko repositories, then it works.
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/ or
experimental one.

Btw. this app is really nice, I thought about some similar one -
instead of line, rolling ball. Maybe in some free time..
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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Johny Tenfinger wrote:
|> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:32, Joerg Reisenweber 
wrote:
|>>> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
|>> Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
|> No, no, no. You are right only for GTA02v6. On GTA02v5 (which I have)
|> this has been fixed only for orange and blue LEDs under POWER button.
|> Red AUX button is still power hungry - it is eating 50mA.
|
| Your mentioned 50mA for the AUX LED is ridiculous. It would burn out
| with this high current. Normal LEDs only use ~20mA and low current LEDs
| ~2mA. 50mA would be for a higher power led which isn't build into the
| freerunner.
| And when you are on battery the AUX led is off by default and even if it
| blinks (like i modified my led behaviour) it isn't really much it uses.

Johnny Tenfinger is right despite it sounds strange.  On some or all A5s
there is no base current limit resistor on the bipolar transistor used
to light the AUX LED.

This "50mA" fault current then flows not through the LED (which has a
reasonable series current limit resistor), but through the GPIO IO cell
and the driver transistor base.

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Re: AGPS question

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
I have a second question:

In agps package for u-blox you have to provide approximate location of
your phone and radius (for example 150 kms).
What does it change? If I provide some longitude and latitude and set
some huge radius will it affect anything?
Is it possible to eliminate it at all?

My brother has N95 with Agps and he does not have to provide his
location while using agps service.

Leonti

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Steven **
Am I the only one that remembers the Qtopia music player?  Its
interface mimicked the ipod where everything was sorted by artist
and/or album.  It worked pretty well.  The only catch on that player
was that you had to manually refresh in order for it to detect newly
added files.  And then it would process those new files (obviously
building up a database).

So, it's not a horsepower issue.  It's been done on the Neo before.

-Steven

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, David Garabana Barro
 wrote:
> I think it's a problem of horsepower. If you can, as modern players do, read
> all id3 info of all tracks, and process it on a relational database, you can
> perfectly sort all your songs by author/album/year/genre/what you want ;)
>
> But, if doing so is a slow process on my 2.4 GHz desktop, I cannot imagine how
> slow would be on the freerunner.

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Re: illume keyboard - only navigate buttons

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
Thanks!

I modified it for my purpose (left only
left/right/up/down/page_up/page_down buttons).
Is there any way to shrink the keyboard?
I mean I have now only one line of buttons but it takes the same
amount of space.
Is it possible to make the "container" of buttons smaller?

Leonti

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pander  wrote:
> see also
>  http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html
>
> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>> Thanks!
>> It's even better than I expected to find!
>> Valuable info.
>> Leonti
>>
>> On 2/26/09, Helge Hafting  wrote:
>>> Leonti Bielski wrote:
 Some time ago on scap.linuxtogo.org I've seen illume keyboard only
 with navigate buttons - right, left, up, down and some others.

 I would like to use it for navigation in browsers - right know I use
 terminal keyboard to navigate through web-page in links-x11.
 Does anyone know where I can find it?
>>> A custom keyboard isn't that difficult to make.
>>> An illume keyboard is just a textual list of keys:
>>> Coordinates for where the key is, how big it is, what function (letter
>>> or cursor key) it performs. So you can copy the terminal keyboard file,
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Terminal.kbd
>>>
>>> Then you simply delete the keys you don't need from the copy.
>>> Finally, make the remaining keys bigger by adjusting their
>>> coordinates.
>>>
>>> To use your new keyboard, save the new file as:
>>> /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Navigation.kbd
>>> Bring up the illume keyboard, press the little qwerty icon
>>> in the upper right corner, and select your special keyboard
>>> from the list. It will be there if you saved the file to the correct folder.
>>>
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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Fox Mulder
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:32, Joerg Reisenweber  wrote:
>>> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
>> Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
> 
> No, no, no. You are right only for GTA02v6. On GTA02v5 (which I have)
> this has been fixed only for orange and blue LEDs under POWER button.
> Red AUX button is still power hungry - it is eating 50mA.

Your mentioned 50mA for the AUX LED is ridiculous. It would burn out
with this high current. Normal LEDs only use ~20mA and low current LEDs
~2mA. 50mA would be for a higher power led which isn't build into the
freerunner.
And when you are on battery the AUX led is off by default and even if it
blinks (like i modified my led behaviour) it isn't really much it uses.

Ciao,
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Actually, if you only use ID3 info, it's very difficult to do a good job
>> of sorting files: it's basically impossible to reliably figure out which
>> songs are part of the same album and which aren't.  You can use
> I've solved all those problems the first times I opened amarok, and
> now it's a  pleasure searching for some song, artist, disk, track...
>> heuristics which will work OK in many cases, but sooner or later you'll
>> bump into some songs whose "album" tag says (say) "Anthology" and which
>> are really divided into 4 different albums, some of which are "well
> When you find one, you can allways change track's id3 :)

Except that those ID3 tags have a clear meaning, and "fixing them" to
get the sorting to work may imply "breaking them" in the sense that the
info they carry is not quite correct any more.
Tho, I guess it depends on the details: in which way did you change the
ID3 info to solve such problems?

>> behaved" (same artist and year for all their songs), and the others are
>> compilations where every song has a different year/genre/artist.
> Sorting by name has also problems.

No doubt.

> If you have songs from several disks or a double album in the same
> folder, you  can finish with this playlist:

> - track 1, disk 1
> - track 1, disk 2
> ...
> - track 1, disk n
> - track 2, disk 1
> - track 2, disk 2
> ...

I name them "- " and it works great ;-)

>> sorting "by file name" really turns out to be a very good solution.
> Not for me ;)

Because you find "changing ID3 tags" to be simpler than "changing
file names".

> I still think that offering several sortings is the way to go

Well, ... it's more work.
An algorithm that uses both ID3 tags and filenames (mostly just
directory names, actually) should be able to accomodate all situations.



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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework (was: Re: buzz fix)

2009-03-04 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:32, Joerg Reisenweber  wrote:
>> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
> Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!

No, no, no. You are right only for GTA02v6. On GTA02v5 (which I have)
this has been fixed only for orange and blue LEDs under POWER button.
Red AUX button is still power hungry - it is eating 50mA.

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Pander
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>> As I mentioned before, I am planning to add some sort of session
>> management. It might be too IO intensive to cache all the tag data (as
>> opposed to simply remembering file name), but it is a possibility.
> actually I think that storing them along with filenames in those
> 'sessions' would speed this up since separate files would not need to be
> processed for id3 extraction upon loading of the session file.  id3 tags
> within a loaded session might be updated upon user request or whenever a
> corresponding file is played/queued/whatever ;)
> 

Possible implementation for sorting on ID3:

contents of .pythmrc:

ID3Sort={%artist - }{%year - }{%album - }{%discnumber}{%tracknumber
}{%title}{ (%length)}{ %genre}{ %rating}

or also possible

ID3Sort={%a - }{%y - }{%b - }{%d}{%n}{%t}{ (%l)}{ %g}{ %r}

The ID3 tag with extra surrounding characters in between the {} will not
be displayed when the value is not set (Null of empty string). This
entire ID3Sort definition will be read on startup of pythm and will be
used for sorting tracks.

The tags used in the definition also dictate the order and contents of
the columns in the overview. In this case begin:

Artist, Year, Album, DiscNmbr, TrackNmbr, Title, Length, Genre, Rating

Possibly a second definition in .pythmrc can be used for custom column
order. e.g.:

ID3OverviewColumns=%a,%y,%b,%d%n,%t,%l,%g,%r
or also possible
ID3OverviewColumns=%artist,%year,%album,%discnumber%tracknumber,%title,%length,%genre,%rating

In this example disc number and track number are combined in the same
column and will simply be concatenated. The header will be emtpy of on
detection of this special case be simply 'Number' of '#'

Also to customist this, a third definition can be specified. e.g.:

ID3OverviewHeaders=Artiest,Jaar,Album,#,Titel,mm:ss,Genre,Rating

And at the same time this third definition allows for localisation.

So the use of the following optional definitions in .pythmrc:
  ID3Sort
  ID3OverviewColumns
  ID3OverviewHeaders
which are customised by the user will allow for ID3 sorting and
presentation catering everyone's wildest ID3 needs.

More people interested in implementing this?

Regards,

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Mércores, 4 de Marzo de 2009, Stefan Monnier escribiu:

> Actually, if you only use ID3 info, it's very difficult to do a good job
> of sorting files: it's basically impossible to reliably figure out which
> songs are part of the same album and which aren't.  You can use

I've solved all those problems the first times I opened amarok, and now it's a 
pleasure searching for some song, artist, disk, track...

> heuristics which will work OK in many cases, but sooner or later you'll
> bump into some songs whose "album" tag says (say) "Anthology" and which
> are really divided into 4 different albums, some of which are "well

When you find one, you can allways change track's id3 :)

> behaved" (same artist and year for all their songs), and the others are
> compilations where every song has a different year/genre/artist.

Sorting by name has also problems.
If you have songs from several disks or a double album in the same folder, you 
can finish with this playlist:

- track 1, disk 1
- track 1, disk 2
...
- track 1, disk n
- track 2, disk 1
- track 2, disk 2
...

I still think that offering several sortings is the way to go

> sorting "by file name" really turns out to be a very good solution.

Not for me ;)


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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

2009-03-04 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
andrew howlett escribió:
> Tomas:
>
> I downloaded the .bin and .jffs2 which you had posted - they rock! WSOD is
> gone, phone sounds good. Thank you very much for posting the backup file.
>
> Andrew Howlett.
>   
I'm glad they worked for you. Hopefully, tomorrow's release will bring 
more improvements (specially with regards to wlan and dns)

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Re: [SHR-ustable] gprs is also unstable

2009-03-04 Thread Ed Kapitein

  Ticket #2223 is also open and might apply to SHR-ustable as well.


Kind regards,
Ed

Al Johnson wrote:
> If you suffer from #1024 and haven't disabled deep sleep you will probably 
> drop the connection on every reregistration. It may cause longer lasting 
> problems with some networks too - after reregistration I couldn't get another 
> connection for some time with O2 (UK) but didn't have problems with T-Mobile 
> (UK). This is anecdotal rather than definitive as #1024 is intermittent, so I 
> couldn't check the problem was repeatable.
>
> There was a problem reported with ppp being unable to resume due to the 
> dynamic nature of the multiplexed port too, but that may have been fixed by 
> now.
>
> On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote:
>   
>> Yes, I do :(
>>
>> I think this is because not in every place gprs is available all the time.
>> When connection is lost it does not recover.
>> I think it is more of FSo problem than SHR.
>>
>> Leonti
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:39 PM, ivvmm  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello community,
>>>
>>> unstableness of SHR(which name claims stability) follows with instablity
>>> of GPRS connection. Several minutes and it is over, you have to restart
>>> it manually.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else experience this?
>>>   
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Re: [fso] no sound card

2009-03-04 Thread Hans Zimmerman
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 17:19 +0100, arne anka wrote:
> which kernel?
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Well just to be sure I loaded the following:

modules-2.6.28-oe1
+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.tgz
uImage-2.6.28-oe1
+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin

r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a
Linux om-gta02 2.6.28-rc4 #1 PREEMPT Mon Feb 23 18:51:54 UTC 2009
armv4tl unknown

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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

2009-03-04 Thread andrew howlett

Tomas:

I downloaded the .bin and .jffs2 which you had posted - they rock! WSOD is
gone, phone sounds good. Thank you very much for posting the backup file.

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

> As I mentioned before, I am planning to add some sort of session
> management. It might be too IO intensive to cache all the tag data (as
> opposed to simply remembering file name), but it is a possibility.
actually I think that storing them along with filenames in those
'sessions' would speed this up since separate files would not need to be
processed for id3 extraction upon loading of the session file.  id3 tags
within a loaded session might be updated upon user request or whenever a
corresponding file is played/queued/whatever ;)

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I think it's a problem of horsepower.

I don't.

> If you can, as modern players do, read  all id3 info of all tracks,
> and process it on a relational database, you can  perfectly sort all
> your songs by author/album/year/genre/what you want ;)

Actually, if you only use ID3 info, it's very difficult to do a good job
of sorting files: it's basically impossible to reliably figure out which
songs are part of the same album and which aren't.  You can use
heuristics which will work OK in many cases, but sooner or later you'll
bump into some songs whose "album" tag says (say) "Anthology" and which
are really divided into 4 different albums, some of which are "well
behaved" (same artist and year for all their songs), and the others are
compilations where every song has a different year/genre/artist.
And then you add classical music into the mix and it gets even more fun.

> But, if doing so is a slow process on my 2.4 GHz desktop, I cannot
> imagine how slow would be on the freerunner.

My measly WL-700gE (266MHz MIPS CPU + 64MB RAM) does it just fine for my
music collection (7000 songs).

Whoever has read my earlier messages knows that this is using MPD ;-).

So at least in the case where the backend is MPD, pythm does have all
the necessary tag info at hand, but sorting is still a nightmare, so
sorting "by file name" really turns out to be a very good solution.


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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
any sop on the bass fix?

2009/3/4 Joerg Reisenweber :
> Am Mi  4. März 2009 schrieb Helge Hafting:
>> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
>> > Am So  11. Januar 2009 schrieb Alexandre Ghisoli:
>> >> Le Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:07:40 +0100,
>> >> Konstantin  a écrit :
>> >>
>> >>> Matthias Apitz schrieb:
>>  Hello Christoph,
>> 
>>  Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE:
>>  http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf
>>  Would be great!
>> 
>>  Thx
>> 
>>   matthias (one of your happy GTA02 customers)
>> >>> I second this one - offering the hardware fix for the freerunner
>> >>> would be great :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Konstantin (One of your other happy GTA02 customers ;) )
>> >> Yes, hardware fixes (rework) made by resellers would be great.
>> >>
>> >> By fixes, I mean :
>> >>
>> >> * GPS - SDIO fix (add a capacitor if I remember correctly)
>> > There's a sw-fix for that, which mostly "just works"
>> >
>> >> * Add a GSM IR resistor for deep sleep
>> > Huh?
>> >
>> >> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
>> > Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
>> >
>> >> * fix the GSM buzz
>> > ok, agree here.
>> >
>>
>> If I ship the phone somewhere to have a technician fix the buzz, I
>> definitely want the "small capacitors on headset output" issue fixed too.
>>
>> The capacitor, combined with the resistance of earphones, form a
>> high-pass filter.
>>
>> The cutoff frequency is 1/(2*pi*R*C), where R is headphone resistance
>> and C is the size of the capacitor. The capacitor in the FR has been
>> reported as 1 microfarad. My headset is about 40 ohm, which gives a
>> cutoff frequency of about 4kHz.
>>
>> At 4kHz the sound is halved, and drops by 6db per octave below that.
>> Above, the sound is almost normal. Unfortunately, most of the sound we
>> hear is below 4kHz.
>>
>> A headset usually works down to about 20HZ. If I want the cutoff
>> frequency there, a 200 microfarad capacitor is needed.
>>
>> Is there a plan for such a fix as well?
>>
>> Helge Hafting
>
> Hey, you copied my mail from ~1year ago ;-)
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Dylan Reilly
We have some ideas for a better GUI as well. My priority is getting
functionality in first, however.

FWIW, I just recently pulled some GUI updates from the guy from whom I
branched pythm, Paul, that should help a *little*. These are in git
now; I will be rolling out another build shortly.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:49 AM, The Digital Pioneer
 wrote:
> Well, the database processing would be slow of course, but more than that,
> an advanced collection manager would be very difficult (I would think) to
> use on the FR. The simple GUI Pythm has now tends to give me enough grief
> unless I use my stylus.
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Dylan Reilly
Pythm reads all tag data anyway. It is slow, but not overly so. That
is the trade-off between having a player that uses pre-built playlists
and one that builds them on the fly. Personally I go for the latter.

As I mentioned before, I am planning to add some sort of session
management. It might be too IO intensive to cache all the tag data (as
opposed to simply remembering file name), but it is a possibility.

As for song ordering, I believe that some combination of song file
name and id3 data will be ideal. I am sure I can come up with
something reasonable. Even if there is no general solution, sorting
will be cheap compared with reading tags so we can have a sort
function in the program that can cycle through some different sorts.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Marcel  wrote:
> Am Wednesday 04 March 2009 17:24:18 schrieb David Garabana Barro:
>> On Wednesday 04 March 2009 17:06:43 The Digital Pioneer wrote:
>> > > I would not want to have to rename hundreds of files to get some media
>> > > player
>> > > sort them correctly just because it doesn't read id3 data... (Although
>> > > my filenames actually do have the tracknums included)
>> >
>> > As Stefan said, this isn't a problem of the player not reading ID3 data,
>> > it's a problem of inconsistency. Different people have different wants
>> > and the player can't magically know what you want. Unfortunately, the
>> > Freerunner has no brainwave scanning peripherals. Perhaps they'll include
>> > that in GTA03. :)
>>
>> I think it's a problem of horsepower. If you can, as modern players do,
>> read all id3 info of all tracks, and process it on a relational database,
>> you can perfectly sort all your songs by author/album/year/genre/what you
>> want ;)
>>
>> But, if doing so is a slow process on my 2.4 GHz desktop, I cannot imagine
>> how slow would be on the freerunner.
>>
>> What about an option for selecting between name order/ track# order?
>> This would satisfy almost all people, I think.
>
> That's what I thought of, too. Having another option in the config file won't
> hurt the gui :)
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Well, the database processing would be slow of course, but more than that,
an advanced collection manager would be very difficult (I would think) to
use on the FR. The simple GUI Pythm has now tends to give me enough grief
unless I use my stylus.
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Marcel
Am Wednesday 04 March 2009 17:24:18 schrieb David Garabana Barro:
> On Wednesday 04 March 2009 17:06:43 The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> > > I would not want to have to rename hundreds of files to get some media
> > > player
> > > sort them correctly just because it doesn't read id3 data... (Although
> > > my filenames actually do have the tracknums included)
> >
> > As Stefan said, this isn't a problem of the player not reading ID3 data,
> > it's a problem of inconsistency. Different people have different wants
> > and the player can't magically know what you want. Unfortunately, the
> > Freerunner has no brainwave scanning peripherals. Perhaps they'll include
> > that in GTA03. :)
>
> I think it's a problem of horsepower. If you can, as modern players do,
> read all id3 info of all tracks, and process it on a relational database,
> you can perfectly sort all your songs by author/album/year/genre/what you
> want ;)
>
> But, if doing so is a slow process on my 2.4 GHz desktop, I cannot imagine
> how slow would be on the freerunner.
>
> What about an option for selecting between name order/ track# order?
> This would satisfy almost all people, I think.

That's what I thought of, too. Having another option in the config file won't 
hurt the gui :)

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Re: [fso] no sound card

2009-03-04 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 16:17 +, Hans Zimmerman wrote:
> Dear list, 
> 
> I do no longer seem to have a sound card in my FreeRunner as it is not
> found.
> 
> The freerunner is running fso milestone 5.1 with opkg update && opkg
> upgrade. Bootloader is Qi qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu
> (03-Mar-2009).
> 
> Logread shows 
> Mar  4 17:15:10 om-gta02 user.err oeventsd.action ERRORsignal
> PlaySound emited an error org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PlayerError:
> Could not open audio device for playback.
> 
> mixerctl says
> lsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
> 
> 
> Any pointers where to look for the problem/solution?
on SHR i had a problem with sound too:
no /dev/dsp was present
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 17:06:43 The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> > I would not want to have to rename hundreds of files to get some media
> > player
> > sort them correctly just because it doesn't read id3 data... (Although my
> > filenames actually do have the tracknums included)
>
> As Stefan said, this isn't a problem of the player not reading ID3 data,
> it's a problem of inconsistency. Different people have different wants and
> the player can't magically know what you want. Unfortunately, the
> Freerunner has no brainwave scanning peripherals. Perhaps they'll include
> that in GTA03. :)

I think it's a problem of horsepower. If you can, as modern players do, read 
all id3 info of all tracks, and process it on a relational database, you can 
perfectly sort all your songs by author/album/year/genre/what you want ;)

But, if doing so is a slow process on my 2.4 GHz desktop, I cannot imagine how 
slow would be on the freerunner.

What about an option for selecting between name order/ track# order?
This would satisfy almost all people, I think.

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Re: Word processing application

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
Thanks all for your help!

GNUtoo, I followed your suggestion number 1. Thanks.
I've just installed Abiword from my local OE repository and I have to
say that it's really cool stuff!
It's a little too much to what I want to do (leafpad is enough), but
ability to work with complicated word processing files on my phone is
great!

Leonti

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:21 PM, GNUtoo  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 18:08 +0100, Leonti Bielski wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I'm looking for some kind of word processing application.
>> I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring
>> laptop with me - only the keyboard.
>> I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it.
>> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
>> Can someone suggest something else for text editing?
>>
>> Leonti
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> I've compiled both...so you have 3 solutions
> 1)compile it yourself with openembedded...I can give you my recipes
> 2)find the packages in an official distro
> I found emacs(non-x11 version) in FSO's unstable repository
> 3)find them in my repositories(split in 2 because of a data-loss) but I
> don't like this idea because:
> *my connection is slow in upload
> *I'm not an official repository => the software comes with no kind of
> support at all,specially because I had data loss and if there is a
> problem with the first repository(and there are some such as wesnoth
> lacking libpng3 as rdepend) I will have to bitbake the recipe
> again...and the libs have to be bitbaken again...wich takes a lot of
> time...
> *I had not the time of investigating why I can't change the fonts with
> emacs-x11
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Re: [fso] no sound card

2009-03-04 Thread arne anka
which kernel?

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[fso] no sound card

2009-03-04 Thread Hans Zimmerman

Dear list, 

I do no longer seem to have a sound card in my FreeRunner as it is not
found.

The freerunner is running fso milestone 5.1 with opkg update && opkg
upgrade. Bootloader is Qi qi-s3c2442-master-hist_3b8513d8b3d9615e.udfu
(03-Mar-2009).

Logread shows 
Mar  4 17:15:10 om-gta02 user.err oeventsd.action ERRORsignal
PlaySound emited an error org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PlayerError:
Could not open audio device for playback.

mixerctl says
lsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device


Any pointers where to look for the problem/solution?


Hans


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Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...

2009-03-04 Thread arne anka
please! not again.
this has been told so many times, we all know it by heart!

just today jörg reisenweber confirmed, that in his opinion no further  
etsts are necessary -- but he also said that he's not longer in a position  
to make that kind of decision official.
since iirc the resellers (at least pulster) stated to be waiting for  
clearance from openemoko, i sincerley hope, om will greenlight the sop  
soon, so an infrastructure to get the fixes done wioll be available in a  
near future.

all that talking about legal action is going nowhere -- either sue/return  
your fr or be patient.

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Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...

2009-03-04 Thread Yorick Moko
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale.
> In USA it's totally legal.
> In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about
> other EU countries.
>
> All of the issues were described on the official webpage, so it's like
> buying used phone and than complaining about scratches.
> So basically all those flaws (buzz, gps, #1024 bug) were part of the
> hardware you bought and warranty should not cover them. All other
> flaws like screen stops working, some connectors not working -
> anything that was not described and occured during normal usage of the
> phone - should be covered by warranty if you have one.
>
> I'm not a lawyer but it seems logical to me.
> Leonti
>

This does not count in EU countries like Belgium. Those who ordered
the original batch were not notified the phone had flaws like gps,
buzz, lack of bass (slow glamo was)
it was even promoted as an end-user phone, not a developer phone
it said that the hardware was fully working and only software needed some work

there is a two year warranty on ALL electrical devices sold here

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
>
> I would not want to have to rename hundreds of files to get some media
> player
> sort them correctly just because it doesn't read id3 data... (Although my
> filenames actually do have the tracknums included)


As Stefan said, this isn't a problem of the player not reading ID3 data,
it's a problem of inconsistency. Different people have different wants and
the player can't magically know what you want. Unfortunately, the Freerunner
has no brainwave scanning peripherals. Perhaps they'll include that in
GTA03. :)


-- 
Thanks,

The Digital Pioneer
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 16:37:34 Marcel wrote:
> Am Wednesday 04 March 2009 16:25:54 schrieb Stefan Monnier:

> > The current solution is the easiest and also the most flexible: no
> > matter how you organize your directories, it should be pretty easy for
> > you to fix your file names such that they get sorted in the order
> > you like.
>
> I would not want to have to rename hundreds of files to get some media
> player sort them correctly just because it doesn't read id3 data...
> (Although my filenames actually do have the tracknums included)

I suppose it's trivial to make a script who renames all my files based on id3 
track#
With xmms, I used to have track # on filenames, but since I started to use 
amarok, filenames lost importance if favour of id3.

It's a pitty amarok it's a monster to something like freerunner ;)



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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Marcel
Am Wednesday 04 March 2009 16:25:54 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
> >> FYI, there is a new version of pythm available on opkg.org
> >
> > I only miss one little thing
> > When you add an entire directory to playlist, tracks are alphabetically
> > ordered, but, if exists, they should be ordered by track # (from ID3 or
> > ogg tags).
>
> This turns out to be a tricky problem.
>
> > I have a lot of disks without track number on track name, only identified
> > by track# on id3/ogg
>
> And other people have directories with files that aren't part of
> a single album, so the track numbers are not related.
>
> Also, there are multi-CD albums, where you may have a single directory
> with all the songs for all the CDs in the album, so you'd then need to
> sort by disknumber+tracknumber.
>
> The current solution is the easiest and also the most flexible: no
> matter how you organize your directories, it should be pretty easy for
> you to fix your file names such that they get sorted in the order
> you like.

I would not want to have to rename hundreds of files to get some media player 
sort them correctly just because it doesn't read id3 data... (Although my 
filenames actually do have the tracknums included)

--
Marcel

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> FYI, there is a new version of pythm available on opkg.org
> I only miss one little thing
> When you add an entire directory to playlist, tracks are alphabetically 
> ordered, but, if exists, they should be ordered by track # (from ID3 or ogg 
> tags).

This turns out to be a tricky problem.

> I have a lot of disks without track number on track name, only identified by 
> track# on id3/ogg

And other people have directories with files that aren't part of
a single album, so the track numbers are not related.

Also, there are multi-CD albums, where you may have a single directory
with all the songs for all the CDs in the album, so you'd then need to
sort by disknumber+tracknumber.

The current solution is the easiest and also the most flexible: no
matter how you organize your directories, it should be pretty easy for
you to fix your file names such that they get sorted in the order
you like.


Stefan


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Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...

2009-03-04 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Wednesday 04 March 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote:
> The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale.
> In USA it's totally legal.
> In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about
> other EU countries.
> 
> All of the issues were described on the official webpage, so it's like
> buying used phone and than complaining about scratches.
> So basically all those flaws (buzz, gps, #1024 bug) were part of the
> hardware you bought and warranty should not cover them. All other
> flaws like screen stops working, some connectors not working -
> anything that was not described and occured during normal usage of the
> phone - should be covered by warranty if you have one.
> 
> I'm not a lawyer but it seems logical to me.
and what about those who bought a FR from the first batch?
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Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale.
In USA it's totally legal.
In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about
other EU countries.

All of the issues were described on the official webpage, so it's like
buying used phone and than complaining about scratches.
So basically all those flaws (buzz, gps, #1024 bug) were part of the
hardware you bought and warranty should not cover them. All other
flaws like screen stops working, some connectors not working -
anything that was not described and occured during normal usage of the
phone - should be covered by warranty if you have one.

I'm not a lawyer but it seems logical to me.
Leonti


On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM, MarcO'Chapeau  wrote:
> Hello lists, hello Openmoko and hello dear reseller
>
> It is not my first time asking this both on the lists and to Trisoft. It
> won't be the last I fear...
>
> Do we have any hope for a mass fix for the GSM Buzz issue or will we have
> to buy a
> GTA03 (and get new hardware issues) ?
>
> I am more and more thinking that warranty at Openmoko is a do-it-yourself
> concept... While I am not a lawyer I would think a do-it-yourself warranty
> is no
> warranty, and we are meant to have one... This is not just ranting.
> Legally, I would say Openmoko would be troubled if
> some consumer association started asking questions.
>
> Same goes for Trisoft, which remain unusually silent when I ask this kind
> of question without being public about it.
>
> Now that everybody is in CC, let's get some answers.
>
> To me and probably many other users the critical question is not whether
> hardware issues get fixed fast or not. The question is a purely logistical
> one. Will the devices that have been sold so far be fixed one day ?
>
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Re: Word processing application

2009-03-04 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 18:52 +, Al Johnson wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I'm looking for some kind of word processing application.
> > I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring
> > laptop with me - only the keyboard.
> > I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it.
> > Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
> > Can someone suggest something else for text editing?
> 
> Which distro are you using? Abiword is one of the things I usually build 
> myself, so I might have ipkgs available.
On the freerunner I use a SHR-unstable distribution(now with a patched
kenrel from the image that was for flashing the gsm firmware)
On openembedded I ust the openmoko distribution.
And I built abiword myself(with the help of openembedded)...then had
data-loss so I've lost the recipes but I can retry to build it if you
want...If I remember well abiword itself compiled fine...but there was
an easy problem in one of its dependencies...didn't commit the fix(boost
related)
...Ah yes I remember...little include problem...but I don't remember in
which package(maybe boost-asio)...may be boost related
Anyway you could try and report your success or failure.
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Re: Word processing application

2009-03-04 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 18:08 +0100, Leonti Bielski wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm looking for some kind of word processing application.
> I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring
> laptop with me - only the keyboard.
> I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it.
> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
> Can someone suggest something else for text editing?
> 
> Leonti
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I've compiled both...so you have 3 solutions
1)compile it yourself with openembedded...I can give you my recipes
2)find the packages in an official distro
I found emacs(non-x11 version) in FSO's unstable repository
3)find them in my repositories(split in 2 because of a data-loss) but I
don't like this idea because:
*my connection is slow in upload
*I'm not an official repository => the software comes with no kind of
support at all,specially because I had data loss and if there is a
problem with the first repository(and there are some such as wesnoth
lacking libpng3 as rdepend) I will have to bitbake the recipe
again...and the libs have to be bitbaken again...wich takes a lot of
time...
*I had not the time of investigating why I can't change the fonts with
emacs-x11
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Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...

2009-03-04 Thread MarcO'Chapeau
Hello lists, hello Openmoko and hello dear reseller

It is not my first time asking this both on the lists and to Trisoft. It
won't be the last I fear...

Do we have any hope for a mass fix for the GSM Buzz issue or will we have
to buy a
GTA03 (and get new hardware issues) ?

I am more and more thinking that warranty at Openmoko is a do-it-yourself
concept... While I am not a lawyer I would think a do-it-yourself warranty
is no
warranty, and we are meant to have one... This is not just ranting.
Legally, I would say Openmoko would be troubled if
some consumer association started asking questions.

Same goes for Trisoft, which remain unusually silent when I ask this kind
of question without being public about it.

Now that everybody is in CC, let's get some answers.

To me and probably many other users the critical question is not whether
hardware issues get fixed fast or not. The question is a purely logistical
one. Will the devices that have been sold so far be fixed one day ?

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Re: [SHR-ustable] gprs is also unstable

2009-03-04 Thread Al Johnson
If you suffer from #1024 and haven't disabled deep sleep you will probably 
drop the connection on every reregistration. It may cause longer lasting 
problems with some networks too - after reregistration I couldn't get another 
connection for some time with O2 (UK) but didn't have problems with T-Mobile 
(UK). This is anecdotal rather than definitive as #1024 is intermittent, so I 
couldn't check the problem was repeatable.

There was a problem reported with ppp being unable to resume due to the 
dynamic nature of the multiplexed port too, but that may have been fixed by 
now.

On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote:
> Yes, I do :(
>
> I think this is because not in every place gprs is available all the time.
> When connection is lost it does not recover.
> I think it is more of FSo problem than SHR.
>
> Leonti
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:39 PM, ivvmm  wrote:
> > Hello community,
> >
> > unstableness of SHR(which name claims stability) follows with instablity
> > of GPRS connection. Several minutes and it is over, you have to restart
> > it manually.
> >
> > Does anyone else experience this?


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Re: Language of hardware keyboard

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
¡Muchas gracias!
I found a script which uses xmodmap for polish keyboard. After some
modifications it works perfectly!

Leonti

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jorge Luis Chamorro
 wrote:
> Helge Hafting escribió:
>
> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>
>
> Hello!
> Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner.
> I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work.
> But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that?
>
>
>
> There are at least two ways:
>
> 1. Select a proper keyboard in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
> the file shoukld have a section like this for a Norwegian keyboard. For
> another language, replace "no" with whatever you need.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
>  Driver "kbd"
>  Option "CoreKeyboard"
>  Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
>  Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
>  Option "XkbLayout" "no"
> EndSection
>
> However, the FR ships without a xorg.conf file. So some experimentation
> is needed to see if it honors the file, and if you need to install extra
> keyboard files that not necessarily comes with the device.
>
> 2. Remap the keyboard using xmodmap
> The FR ships with xmodmap, so you can write a script that uses several
> xmodmap commands, one per key that differ from english layout. Then
> arrange so the script is executed whenever X starts on your freerunner.
>
> Helge Hafting
>
>
> With xmodmap :
> I configure the keyboard on my Desktop PC and run xmodmad -pke >
> keys-on-pc.txt
> and also run xmodmad -pke > keys-on-neo.txt on my neo.
> Then I put some info from keys-on-pc.txt to keys-on-neo.txt and create a
> modified version of keys-on-neo.txt
> So when I plug the external keyboard I run xmodmad keys-on-neo-modified.txt.
> If I put keys-on-pc.txt directly on Neo I have problems with some keys (
> arrows )
>
> Saludos , Jorge
>
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Re: Language of hardware keyboard

2009-03-04 Thread Jorge Luis Chamorro

Helge Hafting escribió:

Leonti Bielski wrote:
  

Hello!
Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner.
I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work.
But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that?




There are at least two ways:

1. Select a proper keyboard in /etc/X11/xorg.conf

the file shoukld have a section like this for a Norwegian keyboard. For 
another language, replace "no" with whatever you need.


Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
 Driver "kbd"
 Option "CoreKeyboard"
 Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
 Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
 Option "XkbLayout" "no"
EndSection

However, the FR ships without a xorg.conf file. So some experimentation 
is needed to see if it honors the file, and if you need to install extra 
keyboard files that not necessarily comes with the device.


2. Remap the keyboard using xmodmap
The FR ships with xmodmap, so you can write a script that uses several 
xmodmap commands, one per key that differ from english layout. Then 
arrange so the script is executed whenever X starts on your freerunner.


Helge Hafting
  

With xmodmap :
I configure the keyboard on my Desktop PC and run xmodmad -pke > 
keys-on-pc.txt

and also run xmodmad -pke > keys-on-neo.txt on my neo.
Then I put some info from keys-on-pc.txt to keys-on-neo.txt and create a 
modified version of keys-on-neo.txt

So when I plug the external keyboard I run xmodmad keys-on-neo-modified.txt.
If I put keys-on-pc.txt directly on Neo I have problems with some keys ( 
arrows )


Saludos , Jorge


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Re: last.fm anyone?

2009-03-04 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Yorick Moko ha scritto:
> vagalume used to work perfectly on shr
> on shr-unstable it's been broken for some time now

I can confirm this on SHR-testing... any hint?

> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Gaël HERMET  wrote:
>> Risto H. Kurppa a écrit :
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried to work on a last.fm[1] client for Openmoko? I guess
>>> shell.fm[2] would be the easiest solution but anything with a gui?
>>> There are some scrobblers like [3] that might work but they aren't
>>> able to play the music.
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.last.fm/home
>>> [2] http://nex.scrapping.cc/shell-fm/
>>> [3] http://www.ohrner.net/software/itsgotthevibez_en.php


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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi  4. März 2009 schrieb Helge Hafting:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > Am So  11. Januar 2009 schrieb Alexandre Ghisoli:
> >> Le Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:07:40 +0100,
> >> Konstantin  a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Matthias Apitz schrieb:
>  Hello Christoph,
> 
>  Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE:
>  http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf
>  Would be great!
> 
>  Thx
> 
>   matthias (one of your happy GTA02 customers)
> >>> I second this one - offering the hardware fix for the freerunner
> >>> would be great :)
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Konstantin (One of your other happy GTA02 customers ;) )
> >> Yes, hardware fixes (rework) made by resellers would be great.
> >>
> >> By fixes, I mean :
> >>
> >> * GPS - SDIO fix (add a capacitor if I remember correctly)
> > There's a sw-fix for that, which mostly "just works"
> > 
> >> * Add a GSM IR resistor for deep sleep 
> > Huh?
> > 
> >> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
> > Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
> > 
> >> * fix the GSM buzz
> > ok, agree here.
> > 
> 
> If I ship the phone somewhere to have a technician fix the buzz, I 
> definitely want the "small capacitors on headset output" issue fixed too.
> 
> The capacitor, combined with the resistance of earphones, form a 
> high-pass filter.
> 
> The cutoff frequency is 1/(2*pi*R*C), where R is headphone resistance 
> and C is the size of the capacitor. The capacitor in the FR has been 
> reported as 1 microfarad. My headset is about 40 ohm, which gives a 
> cutoff frequency of about 4kHz.
> 
> At 4kHz the sound is halved, and drops by 6db per octave below that. 
> Above, the sound is almost normal. Unfortunately, most of the sound we 
> hear is below 4kHz.
> 
> A headset usually works down to about 20HZ. If I want the cutoff 
> frequency there, a 200 microfarad capacitor is needed.
> 
> Is there a plan for such a fix as well?
> 
> Helge Hafting

Hey, you copied my mail from ~1year ago ;-)
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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Adam Jimerson wrote:

> 
> Well I went ahead and gave it a try, if I don't like it I can easily 
> flash something else on it, but it seems that once you have SHR running 
> contacts are able to be added by hand but I don't know if they are saved 
> to the SIM card or to the phone.

Sure, you can add contacts manually, and they will be saved to the SIM.

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Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 12:31, Helge Hafting wrote:
>> Daniel Willmann wrote:
>>
>>> Now that hot-/warmstart with ephemeris playback works with the framework
>>> we should try to get an open server with aiding data available ASAP.
>>>
>> I hope that fso-gpsd gets updated soon too
> 
> Already done:
> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commitdiff;h=5271e445b327c2132eee6a1f43fcf58c37c67e00
> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commitdiff;h=0838645958d50df38e64429a27672570bf58f8b4

Thanks a lot!
I needed this one too, and now get 7s warm starts!
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad2ec48cdb5ab9bdddc15adfc05cbd2e5b8a2cee

I also raised pacc from 3km to 9km, as I often enough travel a bit more 
than 3km with the gps unit off.

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Re: [SHR] Flickering and no PIN dialog

2009-03-04 Thread Daniel.Li
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 11:04 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Pander wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Are more people experiencing on latest SHR unstable (built feb 28):
> > - screen flickering
> > - instable wifi connection
> 
> wifi has been fine for me, since I started using the 2.6.28 kernels 
> distributed along with the SHR images in 2009.
> 
> Well, wpa doesn't work at all, but wep based wifi is fine. The 
> connection stays up for days, and heavy use don't stop it either.

wpa works some time, and most of time it failed to varify password, see
below logs from DI-524M AP.

Mar  3 23:58:32 (none) auth.info syslog: wlan0: WPA-TKIP PSK
> authentication in progress... 
> :
> Mar  3 23:58:32 (none) kern.warn klogd: wlan0: A wireless client is
> associated - 00:12:CF:8E:EC:2A
> :
> Mar  3 23:58:35 (none) kern.warn klogd: wlan0: A STA is rejected by
> 802.1x daemon - 00:12:CF:8E:EC:2A

> 
> Make sure you have a kernel that matches the SHR image. Flashing the 
> rootfs does not update the kernel, it is flashed separately.
> 
> Helge Hafting
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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework (was: Re: buzz fix)

2009-03-04 Thread wp
And a bass boost fix would be great too.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Joerg Reisenweber  wrote:
> Am So  11. Januar 2009 schrieb Alexandre Ghisoli:
>> Le Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:07:40 +0100,
>> Konstantin  a écrit :
>>
>> > Matthias Apitz schrieb:
>> > >
>> > > Hello Christoph,
>> > >
>> > > Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE:
>> > > http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf
>> > > Would be great!
>> > >
>> > > Thx
>> > >
>> > >   matthias (one of your happy GTA02 customers)
>> >
>> > I second this one - offering the hardware fix for the freerunner
>> > would be great :)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Konstantin (One of your other happy GTA02 customers ;) )
>>
>> Yes, hardware fixes (rework) made by resellers would be great.
>>
>> By fixes, I mean :
>>
>> * GPS - SDIO fix (add a capacitor if I remember correctly)
> There's a sw-fix for that, which mostly "just works"
>
>> * Add a GSM IR resistor for deep sleep
> Huh?
>
>> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
> Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
>
>> * fix the GSM buzz
> ok, agree here.
>
>> * ...
> ???
>
> /j
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Re: GSM Buzz fix also applicable to GTA01?

2009-03-04 Thread Tilman Baumann
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:

>>
>> So my question is basically if the GTA02 buzz fix works for me and is it 
>> reasonable to think that I need it?
>> Maybe it can really be fixed with a better alsa state file.

> I'll answer more detailed questions on HW-ML (as you can tell from delay I 
> read [community] rather infrequent).
Oh, good to know. I did not know that hardware topics have a seperate list.
I have the same problem with the community list. Too much noise, too 
much unimportant.

> Basically the answer is: yes applies to GTA01 as well.
> And no we don't think buzz can be fixed by better statefile neither on gta02 
> nor on gta01.
Does this mean you have a solution for me? Or maybe some upcoming?
Or only a conformation that it needs to be fixed too?
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Re: [SHR-testint] On Yaouh! 0.5 and 0.4

2009-03-04 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Carlo Minucci ha scritto:
> Helge Hafting ha scritto:
>> Carlo Minucci wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> now i have installed SHR for testing 0.5 e search for a solution... if i 
>>> don't found i delete the secondo progress bar :)
>>> 
>> The bar that needs "df /" to work?  No need to get rid of it 
>> unconditionally. Test the output of that df command, and make the bar 
>> only if "df" gave a useable response. Those with a working "df" then 
>> gets the bar, and those without still get their tiles updated. (And if 
>> they don't like that, they can complain to whoever packages busybox for 
>> the SHR distro. "df /" is supposed to work, according to documentation.)
>>   
> 
> in italian language i can answer to you with "grazie al cazzo" :)

LOL

> i have test "df /" on SHR, don't work. on om2008.12 work properly
> i don't know why but i'm working for a solution
> 
> for now i have release, in the svn, a version working on SHR
> use this script for upgrade  on SHR:
> 
> wget 
> "http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/*checkout*/usr/bin/yaouh.py?conten
> t-type=text%2Fplain&rev=15&root=yaouh" -O /usr/bin/yaouh.py
> 
> now work also with default configuration of tangogps (for fix this bug 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!#Bug )
> 

I'm trying it and it appears to work fine and, wow, it's a fast and
mercy killing :D

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Re: [debian] kernel upgrade and touchscreen input problems

2009-03-04 Thread arne anka
> Unfortunately, I get "RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294908494/600  
> jiffies)" and a traceback, and then itfails to setup usb0 so I can't log  
> in that way.  But it does boot.

see
> http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2363869

as for the usb0 -- what does

ifup usb0

say?

> Under either the 2.6.24 kernel or the 2.6.28 kernel, I still have  
> problems:
> The AUX brings up the keyboard, so that's good.

the AUX is no kernel business above making it working at all.

> When the screen goes dim, a tap of the screen brings the backlight back  
> up,
> but it won't register the taps on the icons or the keyboard, or the lock
> screen.
> The Xorg log shows:
> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Configured Touchscreen"

sounds like you do use xserver-xorg-input-tslib, check your xorg.conf,  
instead of "TslibDevice" now it is only "Device".

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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Helge Hafting  wrote:

> Adam Jimerson wrote:
>
> > None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move
> > all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does
> > anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that
> > can read Vcards so  I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my
> > MicroSD card, into SHR?
> >
> I know no such way. This part is currently missing in SHR, so maybe it
> is not a good distro for you yet.


Well I went ahead and gave it a try, if I don't like it I can easily flash
something else on it, but it seems that once you have SHR running contacts
are able to be added by hand but I don't know if they are saved to the SIM
card or to the phone.

>
>
> > As for the question which one of the files on this server
> > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ is the Kernel
> > needed there seems to be two different ones.
>
> These two are actually the same. With time there may be several kernels
> in that directory, with different versions.
> uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin is always a copy of the latest among them, so
> that people who don't follow version numbers and kernel development
> simply can grab the "latest" kernel, whatever it might be.
>
> I figured something like that so I went ahead and grabbed the
uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin and used that.
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Re: Language of hardware keyboard

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Leonti Bielski wrote:
> Hello!
> Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner.
> I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work.
> But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that?
> 

There are at least two ways:

1. Select a proper keyboard in /etc/X11/xorg.conf

the file shoukld have a section like this for a Norwegian keyboard. For 
another language, replace "no" with whatever you need.

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
 Driver "kbd"
 Option "CoreKeyboard"
 Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
 Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
 Option "XkbLayout" "no"
EndSection

However, the FR ships without a xorg.conf file. So some experimentation 
is needed to see if it honors the file, and if you need to install extra 
keyboard files that not necessarily comes with the device.

2. Remap the keyboard using xmodmap
The FR ships with xmodmap, so you can write a script that uses several 
xmodmap commands, one per key that differ from english layout. Then 
arrange so the script is executed whenever X starts on your freerunner.

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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Tim Dobson  wrote:

> Adam Jimerson wrote:
> > I tried 2008.12 and my SIM card would not register so I can't use that.
>
> Try SHR. My SIM card which won't work with 2009.12 and 2008.12
> annoyingly works fine with it.
>
> I flashed SHR on my phone and at first it took it a while to register my
SIM but now everything is working fine, it took me a while to get use to the
change in ringers though XP
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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> Am So  11. Januar 2009 schrieb Alexandre Ghisoli:
>> Le Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:07:40 +0100,
>> Konstantin  a écrit :
>>
>>> Matthias Apitz schrieb:
 Hello Christoph,

 Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE:
 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf
 Would be great!

 Thx

matthias (one of your happy GTA02 customers)
>>> I second this one - offering the hardware fix for the freerunner
>>> would be great :)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Konstantin (One of your other happy GTA02 customers ;) )
>> Yes, hardware fixes (rework) made by resellers would be great.
>>
>> By fixes, I mean :
>>
>> * GPS - SDIO fix (add a capacitor if I remember correctly)
> There's a sw-fix for that, which mostly "just works"
> 
>> * Add a GSM IR resistor for deep sleep 
> Huh?
> 
>> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
> Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!
> 
>> * fix the GSM buzz
> ok, agree here.
> 

If I ship the phone somewhere to have a technician fix the buzz, I 
definitely want the "small capacitors on headset output" issue fixed too.

The capacitor, combined with the resistance of earphones, form a 
high-pass filter.

The cutoff frequency is 1/(2*pi*R*C), where R is headphone resistance 
and C is the size of the capacitor. The capacitor in the FR has been 
reported as 1 microfarad. My headset is about 40 ohm, which gives a 
cutoff frequency of about 4kHz.

At 4kHz the sound is halved, and drops by 6db per octave below that. 
Above, the sound is almost normal. Unfortunately, most of the sound we 
hear is below 4kHz.

A headset usually works down to about 20HZ. If I want the cutoff 
frequency there, a 200 microfarad capacitor is needed.

Is there a plan for such a fix as well?

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Re: Freerunner freely runs Gentoo

2009-03-04 Thread Ewan Marshall
Thomas Gstädtner wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Sven Rebhan  wrote:
>> 2009/3/4:
>>> I'm waiting for the NetBSD+pkgsrc annoucement :)
>> Isn't it possible to run Gentoo with a BSD kernel!? :-P
>>
>> /me runs and hides
>
> It's even officially supported:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/
> However, I wouldn't expect the FreeBSD kernel to support the Neo's
> hardware good enough.


Everyone knows to use Darwin Kernel and build a Mac like interface on 
it, oh sorry that's the iPhone...


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Language of hardware keyboard

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello!
Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner.
I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work.
But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that?

Leonti


1. 
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=blob_plain;f=packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver;h=a26c5c2d702dd427529f5c67e94058456bc49407

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Re: GSM Buzz fix also applicable to GTA01?

2009-03-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber

Am Mi  4. März 2009 schrieb Tilman Baumann:
> I have the feeling my GTA01 would also need the buzz fix.
> Especially in high antenna power situations I have quite substantial 
> buzzing.
> That might be new, since I have never seen this before, but I only 
> lately started to use my GTA01 as my main phone, I was more of a land 
> line type before.
> 
> So my question is basically if the GTA02 buzz fix works for me and is it 
> reasonable to think that I need it?
> Maybe it can really be fixed with a better alsa state file.
> 
> GTA02 and GTA01 seem to differ quite substantially in regard to board 
> layout, but I guess the audio schematic does not so much.
> 
> -- 
> Imagination is more important than knowledge.

I'll answer more detailed questions on HW-ML (as you can tell from delay I 
read [community] rather infrequent).
Basically the answer is: yes applies to GTA01 as well.
And no we don't think buzz can be fixed by better statefile neither on gta02 
nor on gta01.
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Re: [SHR-testint] On Yaouh! 0.5 and 0.4

2009-03-04 Thread Carlo Minucci
Helge Hafting ha scritto:
> Carlo Minucci wrote:
>
>   
>> now i have installed SHR for testing 0.5 e search for a solution... if i 
>> don't found i delete the secondo progress bar :)
>> 
>
> The bar that needs "df /" to work?  No need to get rid of it 
> unconditionally. Test the output of that df command, and make the bar 
> only if "df" gave a useable response. Those with a working "df" then 
> gets the bar, and those without still get their tiles updated. (And if 
> they don't like that, they can complain to whoever packages busybox for 
> the SHR distro. "df /" is supposed to work, according to documentation.)
>   

in italian language i can answer to you with "grazie al cazzo" :)

i have test "df /" on SHR, don't work. on om2008.12 work properly
i don't know why but i'm working for a solution

for now i have release, in the svn, a version working on SHR
use this script for upgrade  on SHR:

wget 
"http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/*checkout*/usr/bin/yaouh.py?conten
t-type=text%2Fplain&rev=15&root=yaouh" -O /usr/bin/yaouh.py

now work also with default configuration of tangogps (for fix this bug 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!#Bug )

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Re: Word processing application

2009-03-04 Thread kimaidou
This is great ! Thanks a lot

2009/3/4 Leonti Bielski 

> I've just added it to opkg.org:
> http://www.opkg.org/package_152.html
>
> Pleae let me know if it depends on something that you don't have - I
> will add it.
>
> Leonti
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM, kimaidou  wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Could you point out the link to leafpad ipf file please ? I would like to
> > try it :D
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > 2009/3/4 Leonti Bielski 
> >>
> >> Thanks all for answering!
> >> I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by
> >> installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :)
> >> Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet.
> >>
> >> Leonti
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Leonti Bielski  writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
> >> >
> >> > Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at
> >> > the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only
> >> > with
> >> > problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a
> >> > shell.
> >> >
> >> > I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you
> >> > can
> >> > install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX
> >> > installed on my OM.
> >> >
> >> > Greetings
> >> >
> >> > Sven
> >> >
> >> > [¹]  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner.
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GSM Buzz fix also applicable to GTA01?

2009-03-04 Thread Tilman Baumann
I have the feeling my GTA01 would also need the buzz fix.
Especially in high antenna power situations I have quite substantial 
buzzing.
That might be new, since I have never seen this before, but I only 
lately started to use my GTA01 as my main phone, I was more of a land 
line type before.

So my question is basically if the GTA02 buzz fix works for me and is it 
reasonable to think that I need it?
Maybe it can really be fixed with a better alsa state file.

GTA02 and GTA01 seem to differ quite substantially in regard to board 
layout, but I guess the audio schematic does not so much.

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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-03-04 Thread arne anka
> "export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so" into ~/.xsession.
>
> I did that, didn't work.

sounds rather as if your .xsession never really was executed. anything  
else in there? care to post the content here?

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Re: [SHR-testint] On Yaouh! 0.5 and 0.4

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Carlo Minucci wrote:

> 
> now i have installed SHR for testing 0.5 e search for a solution... if i 
> don't found i delete the secondo progress bar :)

The bar that needs "df /" to work?  No need to get rid of it 
unconditionally. Test the output of that df command, and make the bar 
only if "df" gave a useable response. Those with a working "df" then 
gets the bar, and those without still get their tiles updated. (And if 
they don't like that, they can complain to whoever packages busybox for 
the SHR distro. "df /" is supposed to work, according to documentation.)

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Re: buzz fix

2009-03-04 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:09:50 +0100
Joerg Reisenweber  (JR) wrote:

>Am Di  27. Januar 2009 schrieb Paul Fertser:
>> 
>> Al Johnson  writes:
>> > On Monday 26 January 2009, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote:
>> >> are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official
>> >> DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing?
>> >
>> > This appears to have benefited from feedback regarding capacitor
>> > types 
>from 
>> > the few people so far to have attempted the mod, 
>> 
>> The feedback is that: you can use any cap, including tantalum. :)
>> 
>> > but more feedback is requested. The lack of feedback from people
>> > trying it may be why it hasn't yet made it past release candidate
>> > stage.
>> 
>> No more feedback is really needed. Everyone who performed the rework
>> confirmed that it eliminates the buzz. No single negative report. And
>> i guess at least 10-20 people have already tried the rework. So, the
>> reason that no reseller is doing it yet is probably due to
>> communication/business issues rather than technical.
>
>
>Exactly.
>I'm not in charge any more to push this fix, but to me it seems we
>really don't need to quantify "how much it improves" buzz-issue.
>The cause and ways to creep in of buzz are well understood by now by
>some guys at least (and NO it's NOT the mic catching RF near antenna,
>it's pin4 of hs-jack), the bigC-rework is evidently (based on empiric
>and EE basics) eliminating the ripple we see on MICBIAS, and a
>gsmhandset.state file correctly using differential input mode
>(control.63 value "Mic 2") won't break audio function from unfixed to
>buzzfixed FR. Also we don't need any sophisticated test procedure, as
>* all devices are prone to buzz issue, so we don't need to prove there
>is buzz before fix
>* the big-C rework will either kill the buzz or you find you did sth
>wrong and mic stops to work. So any engineer doing the actual fix
>doesn't need any sophisticated "fix succeeded" test more complicated
>than that involved in replacing a lightbulb. Test call -> works ->
>fine.
>
>cheers
>jOERG
>


Hi,

i am planning to do this on two units possibly (80%) this friday, i have
one unit with and other without the buzz issue(*), both will undertake
the fix. 

* the units were not used on same operator and in the same locations so
  i will try them first under the same conditions side by side to see if
  i can make my other unit buzz even if it didn't before.

If this can be an opportunity for you to have me to test anything,
please let me know.

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Re: Announcing the first programming competition for Openmoko phones

2009-03-04 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Aapo Rantalainen
 wrote:
> We're announcing the first programming competition for Openmoko phones.
>
> You're all invited to participate in the competition to code an
> audiobook / podcast player.
>
> Read the rules and more at
> http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/
>
>
> Aapo Rantalainen & Risto H. Kurppa


It's now been suggested that cofundos will be used to pay the prize to
the winner, see
http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/#comment-435


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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Adam Jimerson wrote:

> None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move 
> all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does 
> anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that 
> can read Vcards so  I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my 
> MicroSD card, into SHR?
> 
I know no such way. This part is currently missing in SHR, so maybe it 
is not a good distro for you yet.

> As for the question which one of the files on this server 
> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ is the Kernel 
> needed there seems to be two different ones.

These two are actually the same. With time there may be several kernels
in that directory, with different versions.
uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin is always a copy of the latest among them, so 
that people who don't follow version numbers and kernel development 
simply can grab the "latest" kernel, whatever it might be.

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Re: Word processing application

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
I've just added it to opkg.org:
http://www.opkg.org/package_152.html

Pleae let me know if it depends on something that you don't have - I
will add it.

Leonti

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM, kimaidou  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could you point out the link to leafpad ipf file please ? I would like to
> try it :D
>
> Thanks
>
> 2009/3/4 Leonti Bielski 
>>
>> Thanks all for answering!
>> I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by
>> installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :)
>> Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet.
>>
>> Leonti
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld 
>> wrote:
>> > Leonti Bielski  writes:
>> >
>> >> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
>> >
>> > Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at
>> > the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only
>> > with
>> > problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a
>> > shell.
>> >
>> > I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you
>> > can
>> > install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX
>> > installed on my OM.
>> >
>> > Greetings
>> >
>> > Sven
>> >
>> > [¹]  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner.
>> >
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Re: [SHR] Flickering and no PIN dialog

2009-03-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Pander wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Are more people experiencing on latest SHR unstable (built feb 28):
> - screen flickering
> - instable wifi connection

wifi has been fine for me, since I started using the 2.6.28 kernels 
distributed along with the SHR images in 2009.

Well, wpa doesn't work at all, but wep based wifi is fine. The 
connection stays up for days, and heavy use don't stop it either.

Make sure you have a kernel that matches the SHR image. Flashing the 
rootfs does not update the kernel, it is flashed separately.

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Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework (was: Re: buzz fix)

2009-03-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So  11. Januar 2009 schrieb Alexandre Ghisoli:
> Le Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:07:40 +0100,
> Konstantin  a écrit :
> 
> > Matthias Apitz schrieb:
> > > 
> > > Hello Christoph,
> > > 
> > > Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE:
> > > http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf
> > > Would be great!
> > > 
> > > Thx
> > > 
> > >   matthias (one of your happy GTA02 customers)
> > 
> > I second this one - offering the hardware fix for the freerunner
> > would be great :)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Konstantin (One of your other happy GTA02 customers ;) )
> 
> Yes, hardware fixes (rework) made by resellers would be great.
> 
> By fixes, I mean :
> 
> * GPS - SDIO fix (add a capacitor if I remember correctly)
There's a sw-fix for that, which mostly "just works"

> * Add a GSM IR resistor for deep sleep 
Huh?

> * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff
Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!!

> * fix the GSM buzz
ok, agree here.

> * ...
???

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Re: buzz fix

2009-03-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di  27. Januar 2009 schrieb Paul Fertser:
> 
> Al Johnson  writes:
> > On Monday 26 January 2009, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote:
> >> are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official
> >> DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing?
> >
> > This appears to have benefited from feedback regarding capacitor types 
from 
> > the few people so far to have attempted the mod, 
> 
> The feedback is that: you can use any cap, including tantalum. :)
> 
> > but more feedback is requested. The lack of feedback from people
> > trying it may be why it hasn't yet made it past release candidate
> > stage.
> 
> No more feedback is really needed. Everyone who performed the rework
> confirmed that it eliminates the buzz. No single negative report. And
> i guess at least 10-20 people have already tried the rework. So, the
> reason that no reseller is doing it yet is probably due to
> communication/business issues rather than technical.


Exactly.
I'm not in charge any more to push this fix, but to me it seems we really 
don't need to quantify "how much it improves" buzz-issue.
The cause and ways to creep in of buzz are well understood by now by some guys 
at least (and NO it's NOT the mic catching RF near antenna, it's pin4 of 
hs-jack), the bigC-rework is evidently (based on empiric and EE basics) 
eliminating the ripple we see on MICBIAS, and a gsmhandset.state file 
correctly using differential input mode (control.63 value "Mic 2") won't 
break audio function from unfixed to buzzfixed FR.
Also we don't need any sophisticated test procedure, as
* all devices are prone to buzz issue, so we don't need to prove there is buzz 
before fix
* the big-C rework will either kill the buzz or you find you did sth wrong and 
mic stops to work. So any engineer doing the actual fix doesn't need any 
sophisticated "fix succeeded" test more complicated than that involved in 
replacing a lightbulb. Test call -> works -> fine.

cheers
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Re: [SHR-testint] On Yaouh! 0.5 and 0.4

2009-03-04 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Carlo Minucci ha scritto:
> Francesco de Virgilio ha scritto:
>> Hi list,
>> does anyone know where can I find the opk/ipk for Yaouh! 0.3? I've tried
>> 0.4 on my fresh SHR-testing but, when downloading during the night, it
>> crashed (I don't know why, I'm trying again now to report the error from
>> shell).
>>   
> 
> you can found all old version here 
> http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=250
> 
>> Yaouh 0.5 simply doesn't work showing an error related to filesystem
>> (but this has been discussed in another topic).
>> So, for my SHR-testing the latest version avaiable for use has been 0.3.
>>  Does anyone know where can I get it?
>>   
> 
> now i have installed SHR for testing 0.5 e search for a solution... if i 
> don't found i delete the secondo progress bar :)

Your is a really great work, Carlo :) But, why remove the progress bar?
Could not make it optional, configurable from a simple sub-menu ("Show
empty space - Yes/No")?
I think that space indicator is a great feature, I would see it avaiable
at least in OM 2008/2009 ;)

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Re: [SHR-testint] On Yaouh! 0.5 and 0.4

2009-03-04 Thread Carlo Minucci
Francesco de Virgilio ha scritto:
> Hi list,
> does anyone know where can I find the opk/ipk for Yaouh! 0.3? I've tried
> 0.4 on my fresh SHR-testing but, when downloading during the night, it
> crashed (I don't know why, I'm trying again now to report the error from
> shell).
>   

you can found all old version here 
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=250

> Yaouh 0.5 simply doesn't work showing an error related to filesystem
> (but this has been discussed in another topic).
> So, for my SHR-testing the latest version avaiable for use has been 0.3.
>  Does anyone know where can I get it?
>   

now i have installed SHR for testing 0.5 e search for a solution... if i 
don't found i delete the secondo progress bar :)

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Re: Word processing application

2009-03-04 Thread kimaidou
Hi

Could you point out the link to leafpad ipf file please ? I would like to
try it :D

Thanks

2009/3/4 Leonti Bielski 

> Thanks all for answering!
> I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by
> installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :)
> Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet.
>
> Leonti
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld 
> wrote:
> > Leonti Bielski  writes:
> >
> >> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
> >
> > Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at
> > the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only
> with
> > problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a
> > shell.
> >
> > I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you can
> > install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX
> > installed on my OM.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > [¹]  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner.
> >
> > --
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Re: Word processing application

2009-03-04 Thread Leonti Bielski
Thanks all for answering!
I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by
installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :)
Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet.

Leonti

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld  wrote:
> Leonti Bielski  writes:
>
>> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
>
> Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at
> the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only with
> problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a
> shell.
>
> I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you can
> install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX
> installed on my OM.
>
> Greetings
>
> Sven
>
> [¹]  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner.
>
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[SHR-testint] On Yaouh! 0.5 and 0.4

2009-03-04 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Hi list,
does anyone know where can I find the opk/ipk for Yaouh! 0.3? I've tried
0.4 on my fresh SHR-testing but, when downloading during the night, it
crashed (I don't know why, I'm trying again now to report the error from
shell).
Yaouh 0.5 simply doesn't work showing an error related to filesystem
(but this has been discussed in another topic).
So, for my SHR-testing the latest version avaiable for use has been 0.3.
 Does anyone know where can I get it?

Thanks
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Re: AW: New accelerometer application, that draws the current perpendicular line and angle

2009-03-04 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install perpendicular
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.11-r7_armv4t.ipk
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libsdl-ttf_2.0.3-r1_armv4t.ipk
http://downloads.openmoko.o
rg/repository/unstable/armv4t/libstdc++6_4.1.2-r19_armv4t.ipk
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.11-r7_armv4t.ipk
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libsdl-ttf_2.0.3-r1_armv4t.ipk
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libstdc++6_4.1.2-r19_armv4t.ipk
Installing perpendicular (0.1) to root...
Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/perpendicular_0.1_armv4t.ipk
Multiple packages (libsdl-1.2-0 and libsdl-1.2-0) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-1.2-0 and libsdl-1.2-0) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-1.2-0 and libsdl-1.2-0) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-1.2-0 and libsdl-1.2-0) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-ttf and libsdl-ttf) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-ttf and libsdl-ttf) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-ttf and libsdl-ttf) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-ttf and libsdl-ttf) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libstdc++6 and libstdc++6) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libstdc++6 and libstdc++6) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libstdc++6 and libstdc++6) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libstdc++6 and libstdc++6) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-1.2-0 and libsdl-1.2-0) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-1.2-0 and libsdl-1.2-0) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Upgrading libsdl-1.2-0 on root from 1.2.11-r6 to 1.2.11-r7...
Multiple packages (libsdl-ttf and libsdl-ttf) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libsdl-ttf and libsdl-ttf) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Installing libsdl-ttf (2.0.3-r1) to root...
Multiple packages (libstdc++6 and libstdc++6) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (libstdc++6 and libstdc++6) providing same name
marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Upgrading libstdc++6 on root from 4.1.2-r18 to 4.1.2-r19...
Configuring libsdl-1.2-0
Configuring libstdc++6
Collected errors:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for perpendicular:
 *  libsdl-1.2-0 (>= 1.2.11-r7.1) *  libsdl-ttf (>=
2.0.3-r1.1) *  libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.2-r19.1) *
 * Package libsdl-ttf md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package
index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
r...@om-gta02:~#

with --force-depends I was able to install it and start.
Nice app, I'd like to see a menu icon for it. I also had some problems
with the automatically rotating screen - in the end the line pointed
to wrong direction (not down) but anyway :)

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Re: Freerunner freely runs Gentoo

2009-03-04 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Sven Rebhan  wrote:
> 2009/3/4  :
>> I'm waiting for the NetBSD+pkgsrc annoucement :)
>
> Isn't it possible to run Gentoo with a BSD kernel!? :-P
>
> /me runs and hides

It's even officially supported:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/
However, I wouldn't expect the FreeBSD kernel to support the Neo's
hardware good enough.

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Re: [2008.12] Yet more on the wrench, sorry

2009-03-04 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 04:49:41PM -0800, Nick Van Fossen wrote:
> 
> So I've been frustrated over the last few months just trying to get a working 
> terminal keyboard under 2008.12.  I see the distro as borderline useless 
> without this, and as a side point I'm completely baffled by the choice of 
> making the wrench so difficult to get working when it worked fine in 2008.9.  
> 
> So right now I have a working qwerty button and a wrench icon that opens but 
> none of the sub-menus contain anything.  I believe all I need to do now is 
> get the keyboard selector menu within the wrench to let me select the default 
> keyboard instead of None, and then I set QT to not export its keyboard and I 
> should be good.  
> 
> My problem though is I can't seem to figure out where the hell the menu 
> information for the wrench tool is located.  I have been looking in the e.cfg 
> and related files and the freerunner.edc file within the asu theme, and the 
> files within the illume theme, but I see no mention of the keyboard menu.  
> Also the preconfigured binaries on the enlightenment.cfg wiki page just bring 
> me to a blank white screen, and when I try to use eet to view the source of 
> the e.cfg file included it just says it cannot be opened for reading, so I'm 
> thinking the files are just corrupt.  
> 
> Can anyone give me a pointer on where the wrench menu info is even stored?

Are you sure your installation went ok? I didn't have that with
2008.12...

Rui

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