Re: [debian] minor enhancements
(forgot to answer to this) 2010/1/12 Neil Jerram : >>> - In zhone, keep current SMS selected when returning from the SMS >>> display screen. >> >> You could try to submit that to upstream [1] as well. > > I regard all of my patches as "submitted upstream", by virtue of > having been announced here. Is there a specific further step that I > should take to offer and flag them to git.freesmartphone.org ? Well, I think you could discuss with FSO team if you could commit rights to the zhone repository there. It's the most obvious/known place anyway, and I'd think it'd bring more visibility to the patches in your tree if they would be there. > If no one else wants to do it, I would be happy to be responsible for > collating further zhone development. Exactly, and thanks a lot for your current work. > The problem is that it's just too good-looking! I quite agree. Despite its limitations (like to send SMS receiver has to be in the addressbook, and the lack of proper phone log) I like it a lot. > Can someone from freesmartphone.org comment on possible processes here? Maybe ask on http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/ list, or file a ticket in their trac asking commit permissions? > Thanks, I will integrate these. [2] looks easy, but [3] looks like it > will need a tweak to retain the current SIM-backed contacts too. Yes, it would probably need a bit more work. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 15:38 +0100, Martin Jansa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:10:27PM +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > > [cut] > > > 6 > > > Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell > > > dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > > IMHO it is enough to run: > > # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > > > > P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and > > nothing more. > > not always.. having more usb devices connected (IIRC my sharp pda or my > hub+bt is enough) can sometimes confuse > dfu-util enough that it says something like "no dfu enabled device > detected" which confuses user even more.. > > checking available devices with dfu-util -l and then providing -d > 0x1d50:0x5119 will save now really confused user.. I have a sun usb keyboard that does the same thing - dfu errors off because it see's two devices, or gets confused and gives up. Its reasonably common as Dale found out when he released neotool. Its better to leave it in for the inexperienced as it avoids confusion. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Stop keyboard auto-display?
That's bug, not intended behaviour. Just wait for fix for that.
On 1/27/10, vancel35 wrote:
>
> I recently did an update / upgrade, and I've notice that the problem is
> back,
> but more stupid.
>
> I removed the package again (matchbox-keyboard-im), and the package that
> depended on it but provided no files ("opkg files" showed the package name,
> but nothing in the list). I suppose that package was simply added to create
> a dependency on the other package.
>
> The complaint I had in non-GTK apps is still there, but now it's more
> severe. Any time I close an app such as the power settings, the keyboard
> has to pop up because of that click and it stays visible on the settings
> page even though there are absolutely no entry fields. In fact, almost any
> time I click a Python button, the keyboard appears.
>
> In the messages (SMS) app, if I'm going through and deleting my old
> messages, the keyboard pops up every time I click "Options" so I have to
> wait for the screen to redraw. Then the keyboard stays there regardless of
> the fact that there is nothing that allows text entry on that screen.
>
> Why does it seem that the keyboard is being forced to be more obtrusive when
> I want it to be less obtrusive? If there were some kind of setting that I
> could turn off, I'd be happy, but there's nothing.
>
> Maybe a lot of people like the keyboard popping up when you don't want it
> (and in places where you can't even use it), but I'm not one of those.
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Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner
On 27.01.2010 11:40, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: > What value of current_now should I expect ? I was using http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Settings:_Power to monitor my power consumption after doing the #1024 bug fix and enabling deep_sleep. I measured over 4.34 days and got an average power consumption of 10 mA and a runtime of approx. 104 h, my voltage dropped from 4.163V to 3.689V. :) stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/fso] autosuspend does not work anymore
> In fact, I did my upgrade a week or so ago, and at first I could turn off > the auto-suspend switch in the power settings screen, but it would still > suspend regardless. Now it doesn't even let me slide the switch to the > off position. I slide it, but it goes back to the on position. you're talking about illume? > directly editing the config file (frameworkd.conf). when you indeed in the last week or so, you will now need/have a config file etc/freesmartphone/fsodeviced.conf whcih now should contain those settings. mine reads there (only an extract) [fsodevice.kernel_idle] ... idle = 5 idle_dim = 10 idle_prelock = 6 lock = 2 suspend = 1 > My values are still in the config file, but they are never used in the > system. When I try to set them via the UI, they don't update. i seem to recall a mail stating, that the settings in illume do not survive a restart of illume. after reinstalling the default config files from the current fso-config-gta02 package (it seems virtually impossible to replace the files by using dpkg with any combination of parameters. i had to remove all files manually and use --force-confmiss) and making only the absolut necessary changes (log files, log level, calypso sleep, rule for power button), it _seems_ to work now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Hackable:1 rev5] fso.alioth gpg - apt-get update issue
Hi! :) after an apt-get update on Hackable:1 rev5 I have: W: GPG error: http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E2B9DE6A8E7B323B I proceeded with: -r...@hackable1:~# apt-get install pkg-fso-keyring -Reading package lists... Done -Building dependency tree... Done -pkg-fso-keyring is already the newest version. -You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: -The following packages have unmet dependencies: - aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6-4.6 -Recommends: aptitude-doc-en but it is not going to be installed or -aptitude-doc - libept0: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6-4.6 - texlive-base: Depends: texlive-doc-base (>= 2007) but it is not going to be installed -Recommends: dvipdfmx (>= 1:20050831-1) but it is not going to be installed -Recommends: lmodern (>= 0.93.3-1) but it is not going to be installed - texlive-base-bin: Depends: libkpathsea4 (>= 2007) but it is not going to be installed -Depends: libpoppler3 but it is not going to be installed -Recommends: texlive-base-bin-doc but it is not going to be installed -E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). so I tryed with "apt-get -f install" but there are some packages to remove... aptitude, tasksel... -r...@hackable1:~# apt-get -f install -Reading package lists... Done -Building dependency tree... Done -Correcting dependencies... Done -The following extra packages will be installed: - libkpathsea4 libpoppler3 texlive-doc-base -The following packages will be REMOVED: - aptitude libept0 tasksel tasksel-data -The following NEW packages will be installed: - libkpathsea4 libpoppler3 texlive-doc-base -0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 4 to remove and 47 not upgraded. -Need to get 1658kB of archives. -After this operation, 8720kB disk space will be freed. -Do you want to continue [Y/n]? What I have to do? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Hackable-1-rev5-fso-alioth-gpg-apt-get-update-issue-tp4468964p4468964.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/fso] autosuspend does not work anymore
I have the opposite problem. Mine suspends regardless of settings. In fact, I did my upgrade a week or so ago, and at first I could turn off the auto-suspend switch in the power settings screen, but it would still suspend regardless. Now it doesn't even let me slide the switch to the off position. I slide it, but it goes back to the on position. If I could at least set the timeouts, I'd be happy, but I can't even set the timeouts via the UI or directly editing the config file (frameworkd.conf). My values are still in the config file, but they are never used in the system. When I try to set them via the UI, they don't update. 1) enter power settings app 2) note value for suspend time (30 seconds, but value in frameworkd.conf is 600 seconds) 3) update time (shows updated time... 60 for example) 4) quit power settings app 5) enter power settings app 6) note value for suspend time is back to the original suspend time (30 seconds in my case, but frameworkd.conf still shows 600 seconds). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-autosuspend-does-not-work-anymore-tp4405938p4468955.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Stop keyboard auto-display?
I recently did an update / upgrade, and I've notice that the problem is back,
but more stupid.
I removed the package again (matchbox-keyboard-im), and the package that
depended on it but provided no files ("opkg files" showed the package name,
but nothing in the list). I suppose that package was simply added to create
a dependency on the other package.
The complaint I had in non-GTK apps is still there, but now it's more
severe. Any time I close an app such as the power settings, the keyboard
has to pop up because of that click and it stays visible on the settings
page even though there are absolutely no entry fields. In fact, almost any
time I click a Python button, the keyboard appears.
In the messages (SMS) app, if I'm going through and deleting my old
messages, the keyboard pops up every time I click "Options" so I have to
wait for the screen to redraw. Then the keyboard stays there regardless of
the fact that there is nothing that allows text entry on that screen.
Why does it seem that the keyboard is being forced to be more obtrusive when
I want it to be less obtrusive? If there were some kind of setting that I
could turn off, I'd be happy, but there's nothing.
Maybe a lot of people like the keyboard popping up when you don't want it
(and in places where you can't even use it), but I'm not one of those.
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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Wow, many responses fast. I'm very grateful. I will review all responses carefully and come back when I've followed your guidelines. Thanks alot! Martin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Now-someone-REALLY-has-to-help-me-tp4467028p4468251.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to add cap on A5 -> A6 mod
Dnia 27 stycznia 2010 12:44 Bartłomiej Zimoń napisał(a): > Hi all! > > I want to add cap. to have no problems with discharged battery. > The problem with my A5 is board a little bit different from A6 > I cant find where is C1769 (from a6 scheme) or where to add this cap. > > On attachment you could find added small cap it could be this what i need? > Someone moded A5 to A6 before? > It is looks like i have early version of A5 this "extra" Cap. is c1767 someone have got photos with refubrished ones? Bartek. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Hi > before everything else, it would be really helpful, if you could let us > know which operating system you are using. yes. if you're on a mac, things can be slightly simpler. I use openmoko-flasher http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher to flash the 2 mentioned images (jffs2 and bin) to my neo. over usb. in the right order. that was usually all i had to do, if i sticked to the same bootloader. somebody correct me if my memory is wrong. Isn't there a similar wrapper for windows ? $2c, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:10:27PM +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > 6 > > Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell > > dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > IMHO it is enough to run: > # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > > P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and > nothing more. not always.. having more usb devices connected (IIRC my sharp pda or my hub+bt is enough) can sometimes confuse dfu-util enough that it says something like "no dfu enabled device detected" which confuses user even more.. checking available devices with dfu-util -l and then providing -d 0x1d50:0x5119 will save now really confused user.. -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] hwclock issue
2010/1/26 Joif : > > Hi! > I'm using QtMoko v16b on the NAND and I have other distro on the uSD. > My time is GMT+1 and when I have to choose the correct time on QtMoko I set > it on the Paris time zone. But when I use another distro I see that the time > reported is exactly GMT not GMT+1. I don't really know about this part - but could just be that the other distro doesn't have correct time zone set up. > Also, some time after a reboot (and > specially after using Debian) I see during the boot an error message about > the impossibility to read the hardware clock and to set the time to > 01/01/1970. Recently understood; please see here: http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg57473.html > This error disappears from the boot only if I remove the > battery. Ah, that is interesting. That would explain why I have stopped seeing this problem. (I've been trying out SHR testing, and now my RTC is working even when I switch back to Debian. I was struggling to understand why that was.) Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
[cut] > 6 > Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell > dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin IMHO it is enough to run: # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and nothing more. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Hi, I said that I never had Android on my Freerunner so maybe it can cause some issue. But normally the installation on the internal memory it's very simple. Shortly: 1 Take the two files that you wrote in your email. They are fine: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 ( yes, Testing is more stable than unstable :) ) http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin ( yes, only one file ) 2 Install DFU-utility software on a Ubuntu (I think you are using it) with this command from the shell: sudo aptitude install dfu-util 3 Enter in root mode in your desktop sudo -s 4 Connect the Neo to your computer via USB. 5 On your Neo: Press and hold AUX button Press the Power button until the boot menu comes up This menu is labelled *** BOOT MENU (NOR) *** http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Menu15.jpg 6 Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin 7 When finished., always in the desktop shell dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D full-om-gta02.jffs2 this operation takes time! 8 Finish! Now you can restart your Neo with SHR ciao Luca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
To make it easy ina straight forward: I suggest to you to install SHR on sd card. To do this you need: - a microSD card - at least one partition on that card (ext2 ext3). If you buy a musd card just for shr it would be easier just to not messup your current musd that has some android files on (for sure). - download the tar.gz version of testing of shr (if you prefere that one...) - mount on your pc the musd is easier thatn everything and extract on the musd the tar.gz - put the musd in your fr, then press aux button plus power button to enter uboot menu, there with aux button you can select "start from micro sd card" and press power to boot... that's probably all you need (afair) d On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Märta wrote: > > Ok, I got a NeoFreerunner this christmas, and I got it delivered with > Android > pre-installed, and ever since I got it I've been struggling to install SHR > as OS onto the internal memory, WITHOUT SUCCESS. I have very little > knowledge of programming. I just want to use the OpenMoko as my daily phone > because I think it looks good and is a funny concept, and I hope to learn > more about it with time. > > BUT > > The installation guides I've been following seems to be made for people > with > more knowledge than me, and there are dozens of terms in the > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner > guides and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual manuals that I > don't understand. So I thought I should take it from the beginning so you > can correct me where I'm doing wrong. > > > * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID * > > 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need: > > Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu > Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a > kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem > > The software can be found at the following places: > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is > intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought > it was a program. > http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program, > just. > text? > http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my > neo, so I dont need it again? > > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 > SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" instead > of > "Unstable", it's ok, right? > > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > Kernel module : Only one file? > > AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done. > > This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux > computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the > NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? > > %-| > > Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I > love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw > this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help. > > Thanks! > > Martin > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Now-someone-REALLY-has-to-help-me-tp4467028p4467028.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
hej, before everything else, it would be really helpful, if you could let us know which operating system you are using. dfu-util is a tool. to flash certain devices, besides others the freerunner. almost every linux distribution should include a package of the program. > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is > intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I > thought > it was a program. intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid are the names of the latest releases of ubuntu linux, if you don't know, what they are i suspect, the rest of the tutorial will not be of much help to you either. > http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program, > just. > text? basically any program is just text -- althgough it might not always be legible ;-) i strongly suspect now, that you are not using linux at all. > http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my > neo, so I dont need it again? not sure. iirc, the android freerunner used to have a modified u-boot. > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 > SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" > instead of "Unstable", it's ok, right? not necessarily. for a while, "unstable" used to be more stable than "testing". > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > Kernel module : Only one file? that's the _kernel_, and yes, it is only one file. where does the quote below come from? > This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux > computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in > the > NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? > > %-| i can't make much from the last three lines. neotool is basically a nice frontend to dfu-util, i have no idea inhowfar it still works, since it dates from 2008 according to the code at the link above. it should be impossible to trash your fr simply by flashing -- the freerunner has a read only boot environment (fallback) which can be altered only with a so called debug board. what you, in fact, are supposed to flash, is the r/w boot environment (so you can use newer, improved or different boot software) and the area where the operating system lives. so, repeating myself, let us know what os you are using before we can proceed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Märta schrieb: > * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID * > > 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need: > > Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu Lets say a computer with linux. It must not be especially Ubuntu. > Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a > kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem Neo-Tools is not only a textfile instead it is a shell-script for linux which should make the flash process more easily. But you won't need it if you do it by hand. U-boot is ok but you could also flash QI instead. But lets say you stay with u-boot. > The software can be found at the following places: > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is > intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought > it was a program. These are just names for the different versions of ubuntu. When you do "apt-get install dfu-util" you have the right version. > http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my > neo, so I dont need it again? Good question. Newer versions have some bugfixes and so on but first try i with your preinstalled version. > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 > SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" instead of > "Unstable", it's ok, right? Sure it is ok but beware that shr is constantly updated so even testing could sometimes be a bit unstable. But it is a better starting point than the unstable version. > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > Kernel module : Only one file? If you want to install shr-testing in NAND flash you need the kernel to be flashed into the kernel partition. The corresponding modules are already in the root filesystem which should be flashed to the rootfs partition. > AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done. > > This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux > computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the > NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? The commands for flashing the kernel and the rootfs can be found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#Flashing_the_rootfs > Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I > love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw > this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help. You love your openmoko but you will throw it into garbage only because you doesn't know how to use it? These statements seems to contradict each other if you ask me. ;) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Ok, I got a NeoFreerunner this christmas, and I got it delivered with Android pre-installed, and ever since I got it I've been struggling to install SHR as OS onto the internal memory, WITHOUT SUCCESS. I have very little knowledge of programming. I just want to use the OpenMoko as my daily phone because I think it looks good and is a funny concept, and I hope to learn more about it with time. BUT The installation guides I've been following seems to be made for people with more knowledge than me, and there are dozens of terms in the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner guides and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual manuals that I don't understand. So I thought I should take it from the beginning so you can correct me where I'm doing wrong. * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID * 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need: Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem The software can be found at the following places: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought it was a program. http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program, just. text? http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my neo, so I dont need it again? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" instead of "Unstable", it's ok, right? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin Kernel module : Only one file? AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done. This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? %-| Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help. Thanks! Martin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Now-someone-REALLY-has-to-help-me-tp4467028p4467028.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner
-[ Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:41:36PM +0100, Fox Mulder ] > ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb: > > I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty). > > I observed that the average current consumption (from /sys/.../current_now) > > is 78mA when "idle". My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah > > (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h > > which is > > exactly what I observed. > > > > So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with > > a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal. > > I thought the #1024 fix is only helping while the freerunner is > suspended. For me this fix only changed the current which was consumed > while suspended and extended my standby time by a factor of nearly 2x. So what do you have in /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now when idle and not charging ? Here is for instance a simple script that will log interresting values every 30 seconds : #!/bin/sh log="$HOME/power.log" while true ; do ( date +"%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S" cut -d' ' -f 4,7 /proc/apm cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_now /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now ) | xargs echo sleep 30 done >> $log I would be very interresting in comparing various people results. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner
On 1/27/10, Fox Mulder wrote: > ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb: >> I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty). >> I observed that the average current consumption (from >> /sys/.../current_now) >> is 78mA when "idle". My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah >> (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h >> which is >> exactly what I observed. >> >> So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with >> a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal. > > I thought the #1024 fix is only helping while the freerunner is > suspended. For me this fix only changed the current which was consumed > while suspended and extended my standby time by a factor of nearly 2x. > > Ciao, > Rainer Suspend doesn't matter, that's thing related to GSM deep sleep (so something like "GSM chipset suspend", not "Freerunner CPU suspend") -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner
ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb: > I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty). > I observed that the average current consumption (from /sys/.../current_now) > is 78mA when "idle". My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah > (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h which > is > exactly what I observed. > > So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with > a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal. I thought the #1024 fix is only helping while the freerunner is suspended. For me this fix only changed the current which was consumed while suspended and extended my standby time by a factor of nearly 2x. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Tracking power leackage in my freerunner
I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty). I observed that the average current consumption (from /sys/.../current_now) is 78mA when "idle". My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h which is exactly what I observed. So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal. What value of current_now should I expect ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-t] navit crashes with Reiseplanner maps while searching for a town
> No one ? only this: i never really got reiseplaner maps working with navit, they used to crash always. atm navit crashes with everything, both on my amd64 and the freerunner, but i had not time so far to investigate further. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
