Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
Hi, looks like an interesting project to build a wireless MID. I want to suggest that you base your design on the GTA04, since it is far more developed as you might think, but also far from being complete... Let's say it is in the middle of the ocean but heads towards its destination. We are currently redesigning it a little so that you can not only use the GTA04 board as a new motherboard for the GTA02 plastics, but also as a module to attach a different LCM and other peripherals (e.g. QWERTY keyboard controller). This is done by adding two board-to-board connectors on the display side. The UMTS solution of the GTA04 is based on the OPTION GTM501. On the software side we have Debian Lenny (which can be the base of QtMoko). There are also Android ports and SHR should not be too dfifficult to adapt. If you need more information or help, please feel free to ask. BR, Nikolaus Am 05.10.2010 um 23:17 schrieb Thomas HOCEDEZ: > On 10/05/2010 10:30 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: >> On 10/05/2010 08:38 PM, Giovanni wrote: >>> My free time and knowledge is quite limited, anyway I am willing to >>> help in some way >>> >>> How can I help? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> alien jo >>> >> Well, for now, we have to set some points, each one requires more or >> less time& skills, so anyone can give a little help : >> >> - List of what is needed on a device bult on the base of the MiniBook. >> It means : what feature MUST be included, and what feature could be >> added on the "bonus tracks". A poll can be launched for that. >> - Find a name for such a device. >> - Ask OS's developpers if their distro can be ported easily or not on >> the device. >> - Decide how the device should be "open" (extensions, versatile ...)& >> future-ready. >> - Find someone with a little bit of knowledge to find the chips >> references that would be included (GSM, SimCard holder, GPS..) >> - Opening a Wiki page to store all those steps& results ! >> - Give some extra more ideas ! >> >> So feel free to answer those questions,& add others. >> >> Thanks a lot >> >> AstHrO >> >> > For example, coud it be possible to put a gobi2000 (GPS+3G) chip(1) in it ? > How much does this cost ? > Does this chip is sold in other factor ? > ... > > (1) > http://www.roundsolutions.com/shop/products/en/HSPA-modem/Option-GOBI2000-HSUPA-HSDPA-UMTS-Mini-PCI-Express-Card.html > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
On 10/05/2010 10:30 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: >On 10/05/2010 08:38 PM, Giovanni wrote: >> My free time and knowledge is quite limited, anyway I am willing to >> help in some way >> >> How can I help? >> >> Best regards, >> alien jo >> > Well, for now, we have to set some points, each one requires more or > less time& skills, so anyone can give a little help : > > - List of what is needed on a device bult on the base of the MiniBook. > It means : what feature MUST be included, and what feature could be > added on the "bonus tracks". A poll can be launched for that. > - Find a name for such a device. > - Ask OS's developpers if their distro can be ported easily or not on > the device. > - Decide how the device should be "open" (extensions, versatile ...)& > future-ready. > - Find someone with a little bit of knowledge to find the chips > references that would be included (GSM, SimCard holder, GPS..) > - Opening a Wiki page to store all those steps& results ! > - Give some extra more ideas ! > > So feel free to answer those questions,& add others. > > Thanks a lot > > AstHrO > > For example, coud it be possible to put a gobi2000 (GPS+3G) chip(1) in it ? How much does this cost ? Does this chip is sold in other factor ? ... (1) http://www.roundsolutions.com/shop/products/en/HSPA-modem/Option-GOBI2000-HSUPA-HSDPA-UMTS-Mini-PCI-Express-Card.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
On 10/05/2010 08:38 PM, Giovanni wrote: > My free time and knowledge is quite limited, anyway I am willing to > help in some way > > How can I help? > > Best regards, > alien jo > Well, for now, we have to set some points, each one requires more or less time & skills, so anyone can give a little help : - List of what is needed on a device bult on the base of the MiniBook. It means : what feature MUST be included, and what feature could be added on the "bonus tracks". A poll can be launched for that. - Find a name for such a device. - Ask OS's developpers if their distro can be ported easily or not on the device. - Decide how the device should be "open" (extensions, versatile ...) & future-ready. - Find someone with a little bit of knowledge to find the chips references that would be included (GSM, SimCard holder, GPS..) - Opening a Wiki page to store all those steps & results ! - Give some extra more ideas ! So feel free to answer those questions, & add others. Thanks a lot AstHrO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dictator crashes
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:42:56PM +0200, Matthias Felsche wrote: > I experienced the same on current shr: > > r...@om-gta02 ~ # cat /etc/shr-version > SHR -20101002 > Built from branch: org.openembedded.dev > Revision: 5788b22be688b7c2dd2ee9aca853aaff81b75d22 > > Something seems to go wrong while the window and its widgets is being > displayed. > It's Xorg that receives an Segfault: > Here's the output from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > > [2108227.079] > Backtrace: > [2108227.080] Segmentation fault at address 0x4e1742 > [2108227.080] > Fatal server error: > [2108227.080] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting > [2108227.081] > [2108227.082] > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.x.org > for help. > [2108227.082] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" > for additional information. > [2108227.082] > [2108227.085] (II) Power Button: Close > [2108227.086] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" > [2108227.087] (II) AUX Button: Close > [2108227.088] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" > [2108227.089] (II) Touchscreen: Close > [2108227.090] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" > [2108227.091] (II) UnloadModule: "kbd" > [2108227.093] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch > > > Nothing more. > I guess it has something to do with pygtk and it's displaying of images > or widgets. Displaying the dictator window without making the widgets > (buttons...) visible works. I have do find out what exactly causes X to > crash. Seems strange. > > Thanks for your report. > > Does anyone have an idea about what changed during shr-updgrades and > could have possibly caused the error? newer xserver or libx11? hard to guess without stacktrace.. what about installing -dbg packages and running Xorg in gdb? I'm building newer xserver/libdrm/mesa but won't push it to feed today, someone can try it from my feed if interested. Regards, -- Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: martin.ja...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dictator crashes
I experienced the same on current shr: r...@om-gta02 ~ # cat /etc/shr-version SHR -20101002 Built from branch: org.openembedded.dev Revision: 5788b22be688b7c2dd2ee9aca853aaff81b75d22 Something seems to go wrong while the window and its widgets is being displayed. It's Xorg that receives an Segfault: Here's the output from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: [2108227.079] Backtrace: [2108227.080] Segmentation fault at address 0x4e1742 [2108227.080] Fatal server error: [2108227.080] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting [2108227.081] [2108227.082] Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. [2108227.082] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. [2108227.082] [2108227.085] (II) Power Button: Close [2108227.086] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" [2108227.087] (II) AUX Button: Close [2108227.088] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" [2108227.089] (II) Touchscreen: Close [2108227.090] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" [2108227.091] (II) UnloadModule: "kbd" [2108227.093] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch Nothing more. I guess it has something to do with pygtk and it's displaying of images or widgets. Displaying the dictator window without making the widgets (buttons...) visible works. I have do find out what exactly causes X to crash. Seems strange. Thanks for your report. Does anyone have an idea about what changed during shr-updgrades and could have possibly caused the error? Matthias Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 19:14 +0200 schrieb Alexander Lehner: > Hi, > > after I successfully installed 'dictator' it now crashes my X-server upon > startup. > I have the latest SHR from Oct/2. > > Any ideas? > > Alex. > signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
My free time and knowledge is quite limited, anyway I am willing to help in some way How can I help? Best regards, alien jo On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > On 05/10/2010 14:33, Giovanni wrote: > > WOW! > > > > I really hope that there is a bright future for FreeRunner-like open > > hardware! > > > > giovanni > > (aka alien jo) > > I really hope too, And that's why I try this collaboration. I think it's > the best way to do something efficient & rapid. > > You can help if you want ! > > Rgds > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Please wait some time for new version with completely rewritten converter, it will allow large areas, though currently I don't know anything about conversion time. -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-0-2-10-released-tp5158145p5604201.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
dictator crashes
Hi, after I successfully installed 'dictator' it now crashes my X-server upon startup. I have the latest SHR from Oct/2. Any ideas? Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
2010-10...@10:56 Thomas HOCEDEZ [...] > Tada ! Everythnig is now open to find a way to mix Openmoko V4 project > with the base of the A.I.'s MID. > As I said earlier, their specs are online, and the GTA04 project is > progressing fast, nut with a litlle help on hardware it could be faster ! [...] ooh wow! this topic switched to the cool side! *_* they made an U-turn! maybe I'll buy a new gadget in the "near" future... ;) you ruuulez guys! \m/, -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
On 05/10/2010 14:33, Giovanni wrote: > WOW! > > I really hope that there is a bright future for FreeRunner-like open > hardware! > > giovanni > (aka alien jo) I really hope too, And that's why I try this collaboration. I think it's the best way to do something efficient & rapid. You can help if you want ! Rgds ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
WOW! I really hope that there is a bright future for FreeRunner-like open hardware! giovanni (aka alien jo) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > On 20/09/2010 17:22, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > > Le 20/09/2010 16:26, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau a écrit : > > > >> Adding GSM to MID-device definitely will make this device extra-cool. > >> > >> Does somebody have idea how GSM could be added there? > >> Voice is most important feature for me. 3G and so on, could be > >> connected to touchbook part. May be its possible attach some gsm > >> board? (FR's or others). > >> > >> Maksim > >> > > In fact, I think I will try to reach them. I'll give you the answer asap. > > > > > Hang on dudes, please sit cumfortably, and read this message slowly ! > This is the answer of a message I sent A.I. to try to find a way to work > with them. > > - > Hello Thomas, > > Thank you for your interest in our products. This can definitely be an > interesting opportunity. > > As an early-stage startup, we don't have that much money and time to > give upfront, but the idea remains seducing, and we may share what's > already done to help things to go on. We obviously know Openmoko's > Freerunner, but didn't play with it really much, nor know the team > behind this device. How do you imagine things from your point of view: > what do you have to bring into such a shared project, and how do you see > the working-together process? > > Best, > Alexandre - Always Innovating Team > --- > > Tada ! Everythnig is now open to find a way to mix Openmoko V4 project > with the base of the A.I.'s MID. > As I said earlier, their specs are online, and the GTA04 project is > progressing fast, nut with a litlle help on hardware it could be faster ! > > I want to answer Alexandre (I think he is the one from the videos), this > week, to give a first clue on how we wanted to work. > > So, Let's get imaginative : it's a brainstorm session ! > > Asthro, so happy ! > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicerecording software needed
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Am Dienstag 05 Oktober 2010, 12:10:19 schrieb Alexander Lehner: >> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >>> Have you tried to install the version of dictator wich is in the SHR >>> feed? >> >> I did not find it. > > It's in the SHR-u feed: http://build.shr-project.org/shr- > unstable/ipk/armv4t/dictator_0.2-r3.5_armv4t.ipk Thanks a lot - my mistake. I forgot do do an 'opkg update' after flashing... A. k ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicerecording software needed
Am Dienstag 05 Oktober 2010, 12:10:19 schrieb Alexander Lehner: > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > > Have you tried to install the version of dictator wich is in the SHR > > feed? > > I did not find it. It's in the SHR-u feed: http://build.shr-project.org/shr- unstable/ipk/armv4t/dictator_0.2-r3.5_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicerecording software needed
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Am Montag 04 Oktober 2010, 19:57:40 schrieb Alexander Lehner: >> On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >>> Dictator worked just fine for me a few months ago. Maybe it's a new >>> >>> problem. >>> >>> Can you try to explain how or why it doesn't work? >> >> I first forgot to mention that I'm using the latest SHR. >> I installed it the way the wiki page says >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator >> >> My problem seems the wave support for python: >> >> o...@om-gta02 /media/card # opkg install -force-depends > > Have you tried to install the version of dictator wich is in the SHR feed? I did not find it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sandisk 16GB SDHC not mountable
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Gennady Kupava wrote: >> and so begins the might fall of the freerunner sd card reader... > > I think possible something just terrible wrong in kernel driver. From my > point of view it is worth to investigate, may be we can get x4 uSD > speedup. I do not know, but maybe it's related too? http://bugs.qtmoko.org/view.php?id=179 (please do not consider my replies there because they are OT) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !
On 20/09/2010 17:22, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: > Le 20/09/2010 16:26, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau a écrit : > >> Adding GSM to MID-device definitely will make this device extra-cool. >> >> Does somebody have idea how GSM could be added there? >> Voice is most important feature for me. 3G and so on, could be >> connected to touchbook part. May be its possible attach some gsm >> board? (FR's or others). >> >> Maksim >> > In fact, I think I will try to reach them. I'll give you the answer asap. > > Hang on dudes, please sit cumfortably, and read this message slowly ! This is the answer of a message I sent A.I. to try to find a way to work with them. - Hello Thomas, Thank you for your interest in our products. This can definitely be an interesting opportunity. As an early-stage startup, we don't have that much money and time to give upfront, but the idea remains seducing, and we may share what's already done to help things to go on. We obviously know Openmoko's Freerunner, but didn't play with it really much, nor know the team behind this device. How do you imagine things from your point of view: what do you have to bring into such a shared project, and how do you see the working-together process? Best, Alexandre - Always Innovating Team --- Tada ! Everythnig is now open to find a way to mix Openmoko V4 project with the base of the A.I.'s MID. As I said earlier, their specs are online, and the GTA04 project is progressing fast, nut with a litlle help on hardware it could be faster ! I want to answer Alexandre (I think he is the one from the videos), this week, to give a first clue on how we wanted to work. So, Let's get imaginative : it's a brainstorm session ! Asthro, so happy ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicerecording software needed
Am Montag 04 Oktober 2010, 19:57:40 schrieb Alexander Lehner: > On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > Dictator worked just fine for me a few months ago. Maybe it's a new > > > > problem. > > > > Can you try to explain how or why it doesn't work? > > I first forgot to mention that I'm using the latest SHR. > I installed it the way the wiki page says > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator > > My problem seems the wave support for python: > > o...@om-gta02 /media/card # opkg install -force-depends Have you tried to install the version of dictator wich is in the SHR feed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicerecording software needed
"Voice Notes" in QtMoko works well. Even though you use SHR, you may want to consider booting QtMoko, from SD Card for example... On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Alexander Lehner wrote: > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > > Dictator worked just fine for me a few months ago. Maybe it's a new > > problem. > > > > Can you try to explain how or why it doesn't work? > > I first forgot to mention that I'm using the latest SHR. > I installed it the way the wiki page says > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator > > My problem seems the wave support for python: > > o...@om-gta02 /media/card # opkg install -force-depends > http://www.opkg.org/packages/dictator_0.2_armv4t.ipk > Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/dictator_0.2_armv4t.ipk. > Installing dictator (0.2) to root... > Configuring dictator. > Collected errors: > * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for > dictator: > * python-audio (>= 2.6.1) * > r...@om-gta02 /media/card # dictator > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dictator/diktator.py", line 22, in > > import main_gui > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dictator/main_gui.py", line 28, in > > import playPage > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dictator/playPage.py", line 25, in > > import alsaaudio, wave > ImportError: No module named wave > > > Alex. > > > > > Rui > > > > Em 04-10-2010 18:43, Alexander Lehner escreveu: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am looking for a SW to record audio. I found some (dictator, > voicenote, > >> monologue), but none of them seems to work properly - the development > >> seems to have stopped already for a while. > >> > >> I try to avoid writing the 1000th script using arecord etc., also it > >> should be useable by children... > >> > >> Thanks for any hint - > >> > >> Alex. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community