Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
cool Great News. Brenda Wang Wolfgang Spraul-3 wrote: raster, I can officially leak this. We (over in Enlightenment land) are working with a major electronics manufacturer Fantastic news, congratulations for getting this off the ground and I wish you a lot of success with it! Keep in touch, Wolfgang On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:07:09PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: Just an FYI here. I can officially leak this. We (over in Enlightenment land) are working with a major electronics manufacturer (one that happens to pump out 100's of millions of phones every year of pretty top-notch hardware quality - and who also happens to like making phones high-spec with nice screens, good SoC's and 3G. If what we do is a phone, or a TV, or a game system, or a DVD player... who knows!). What does this mean? Well - no guarantees, but they are now sponsoring us. That says something. If we are working on something you can guess the rest I'd say. Who it is - will wait for future announcements. What, when and where will also need to wait. How open it is, will also need to wait. But you can guess that if we are fiddling with it - it's already partly open. So... just dropping a keep your eyes peeled. P.S. No glamos were hurt during this work. Actually they were not even involved. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/future-phones-that-you-can-hack-news-tp4022482p4037038.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: Dear Openmoko Community, In light of the refocusing of Sean's company on consumer items, there has been a perceived vacuum created in the Openmoko community's efforts to create next-generation open cellular smart phones. I happened to be working with Dr. Marcelo Zuffo, a full professor and the head of the Laboratory for Integrated Systems at the University of São Paulo, Brazil, on an unrelated project. I asked Dr. Zuffo if the university would be willing to join the Openmoko community and to provide critical resources to the task at hand. I subsequently have met with Dr. Zuffo several times on this matter, have seen his facilities (which include a very modern and state-of-the-art SMT line) and have discussed the goals of the community to design and prototype a completely open design for a cellular phone. Dr. Zuffo and the university understand your issues, understand free and open source software and hardware and are willing to assist the community with this project. I might add that the university can bring several new capabilities to the community: First of all, Dr. Zuffo has discussed the Openmoko project with the Minister of Telecommunications of Brazil, and the Minister is very enthusiastic about the concept. Having the support of the government of the twelfth largest economy behind the project might really help us with various negotiations with vendors. Secondly the University has been working on several aspects of telecommunications for a long time, and therefore has expertise in telephonic security and codecs (among other things) that could be of use to the Openmoko community. Third, the university has the ability and expertise to design new integrated circuits. Recently they designed a a range of analog-digital chips. Therefore the possibility of developing, manufacturing and freely licensing new chips to help reduce the cost of the phone is possible. Forth, while the facilities I mentioned are capable of producing up to 10,000 units at the rate of one circuit board every 30 seconds, the purpose of the facilities is research, developing and support projects that can lead innovation, the lab's charter does not allow them to manufacture more units then the 10,000 because that would be commercial production. Therefore the university has a goal of freely licensing the design to companies for manufacture. Fifth, the university would be happy to host the mailing lists and forums of the Openmoko project. If some of the software projects need hosting and can not find hosting services other places, the university will consider acting as a primary hosting facility for these projects. Sixth, personally I would like to see this concept extended, of inviting more universities and their facilities to help with this project world-wide. I hope that the leadership of the University of Sao Paulo will help create the structure and inspiration for this to happen. Brenda Wang wrote: +1 It's really great to hear this. In Taiwan, Tsing Hua university also has a OPENlab. Finally, the university has a non-profit legal entity, LSITEC, which can easily do the type of paperwork that Sean's company did (NDAs, certification) so the community can leverage off that. I know that there will be a lot of questions and considerations to take before the community is comfortable with this relationship. Dr. Zuffo has asked that I help coordinate the joining together of the university with the community, and in the interest of seeing Openmoko continue to do the fine work started by Sean and all of you, I will be glad to help in this capacity. I am monitoring the community mailing list, and people are also welcome to email me directly (mad...@li.org) with questions that you do not (for any reason) wish to post to the list. A copy of Dr. Zuffo's letter of intent is below. I have the original PDF if anyone would like to see it, but it was too big to make it through the community's standards on mailing lists unmoderated, and I thought you might like to see this as soon as possible. Warmest regards, Jon maddog Hall President, Linux International CTO of Koolu, Inc. == São Paulo, 8th July 2009, Mr. Jon Maddog Hall The Executive Director Linux International. Dear Mr. Hall, according our conversation LSI-USP the Laboratory for Integrated Systems at the University of São Paulo, Brazil, is interested in hosting the OpenMoko Community to design innovative cell phone designs. We would like to offer the community the following facilities: ‐ State-of-art facilities for SMT (Surface Mounting Technology) prototyping of complex electronics boards; ‐ State-of-art facilities and expertise for design HW and SW in telephony and communications; ‐ Expertise in testing
Re: Community Updates: June 25 2009 released!
Nicola Mfb wrote: June 25 2009 community updates is out. After 22 May OM stopped working on official community updates so that one is totally community made. Take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 Best Regards Nicola Brenda Wang wrote: I put this link the navigation bar. You can access this page via News of sidebar. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Community-Updates%3A-June-25-2009-released%21-tp3158134p3159524.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YOUR action is needed to get the Community Updates up running again
Hi! OM isn't working on the software for our phones any more and it looks like that also the releasing of Community Updates (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates) has stopped (actually the 'news' link has been removed from wiki main navigation). Brenda Wang wrote: Two days ago, I read the documentation list, there's some request about the link of wiki side bar. So I removed the news' link from wiki main navigation two days ago. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2943035|a2952101 I will add it back when next updates released. Regards Brenda Wang So we have to do it. I think it's vital for the community to have some kind of newsletter that allows one to have a quick look at what's happened, if you don't follow the mailing lists and IRC daily. I started the draft page here for the next updates: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 Please add there everything that's happened since May 22nd. Adding news 1. Don't trust that someone else will add it, add it yourself and make it clean 2. Add links to blog posts, applications, mailing list posts that you think are worth to announce to the whole community Releasing 1. If it's The Release Date and you notice the news has not been released, DO IT! Don't trust that someone else will do it for you. 2. When you release, move the content of Talk: page to the actual wikipage. 3. Add a link to the released update page to http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates 4. Prepare the draft page for the next community news: captions, dates etc.. Releasing news on Thursdays every two weeks sound's good to me. 5. Send a post to the community mailing list with the link to the released news and the draft of the next news. The rules are also at http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates#Rules_for_community_updates r (hey, I just started this again, don't trust me to push it any further, do it yourself :D -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/YOUR-action-is-needed-to-get-the-Community-Updates-up---running-again-tp3115540p3120449.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Visit at Openmoko
Kosa wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I do too. I'm very sad, but the freerunner is open, so we can still do a lot with it. Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone. Thanks. Brenda wrote: It's so sweet to hear that. Brenda Wang Kosa - - Un mundo mejor es posible - Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: I subscribe this message! (picture me with a big thumbs up) Thank you very much, guys! Rui Seabra, omnewrotate On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:45:32PM +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote: A *BIG*, no a *HUGE* thank you to all the openmoko employees who worked these last years without ever being in the spot light but nevertheless doing a great job!!! All the best for your future, Openmoko would not have been possible without you. You have opened new horizions and I am sure the future will prove the concept was right but ahead of its time... Thanks again for a great job, Marcus Bauer, tangoGPS On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:03:40 +0800 Sven Klomp s...@klomp.de wrote: On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote: A not unimportant snippet of information is missing: How long ago was this? I visited them yesterday (25th). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkobB00ACgkQmveDdjvKcqjo9ACdHbiiLYL4tm/ptohnic0lKf+g JY0An0j2tY5YRJjpfY/sCJIDyrhXmXf4 =K3FW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Visit-at-Openmoko-tp2970452p2974795.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Hi everybody, Right now, if you want to join the revolution in open hardware development, read the gta02-core wiki page carefully (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core), and join the mailing list (slightly confusingly named gta03 :-)) at http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/gta03 Then see where you can contribute - it's a wide open field with many possible tasks, no matter which background you are coming from. I'll see what I can do. I already put this on Wiki main page . I think that will be more easy to find this page. Brenda Wang ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-Life-in-Openmoko-Phones-tp2934354p2955538.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
13th community updates released
Dear list: Here comes the 13th community updates. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/March_6%2C_2009 As usual I would like to thanks for everyone who contribute on this. During these two weeks , there are many exciting news here. Openmoko has announced Om 2009 release plan, gen...@openmoko mailto:gen...@openmoko team has reached their first milestone for running Gentoo on FreeRunner...etc. Beside the distribution news, there are many events like FreerunnerMeeting (in Politecnico di Milano University ) , OSI Tech Days 2009and Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2009...etc ,will hold during sprint time. Finally, I would like to remind you all that there's only two days left for the registration of FreeRunner programming competition . Stay tune. There is more interesting information on this community updates. Best Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The draft of 13th community updates
Dear list : The 13th community updates will released on Mar , 6. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/March_6%2C_2009 As usual, I put the draft on Talk page first. Feel free to edit it. If there's some events information missed on the draft page, feel free to add events news on this page or contact me in private. The rule of events information of each community updates should be hold from the release day to the next release day. For example , 13th community updates will released on Mar, 6, the next community updates will released on Mar, 20, so the events information should be on during Mar,6~19 ). Best Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The draft of 13th community updates
Sven Rebhan ??: Thanks you for bringing this up! Community will be happy to learn this news from the community updates which I have updated it just now. Brenda Please also consider to mention the Gentoo distribution! Mail sent to the Mailing list can be found here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043143.html Best regards, Sven, in the name of the gen...@openmoko team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Organize events information on wiki
Dear all: I would like to organize Openmoko event news on wiki , to put news on events page, community updates and wiki main page. By doing this , anyone who wants to join these events , can get event news easier. Here is the rules : 1.Every events news will put on events page , including upcoming and past events. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko:Current_events 2. Upcoming news (events will hold from today to the end of next month ) will put on main page by edit events template 3. Events on each community updates , will put events hold from the community updates release date to the next release ). So, if you have any event news want to update on wiki , feel free to update it on events page, or mail me , I can update it on wiki. Best Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
Risto H. Kurppa ??: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.org wrote: Thanks Mirko for your update, nice to hear what's up. Would it be possible to post these updates on the community list every second week or every now and then - and also encourage the others to do the same. I remember seeing some Paroli reports here but other than that only very little information from openmoko:/ Hi: I have updated the Paroli 's information on Wiki page. And continued maintain this page. Feel free to use it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli Brenda r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released !
Dear list : The 12th Community Updates now is available. It can be accessed from Community Box located at the left, or via following link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/February_20%2C_2009 I will like to thank the community for the help and for sharing us some interesting information. Best Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
draft of community updates
Dear list : The 12th community updates will released on Feb , 20. As usual, I put the draft on Talk page first. Feel free to edit it if I missed any information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/February_20%2C_2009 Best Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Does it work at OM 2008.9 ? I install it on Om 2008. 9 , but I don't know how to initiate it . Olof Sjobergh ??: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fix broken links
Dear all: The Openmoko distribution maintainer start to do some change on downloads server( Downloads.openmoko.org) . This change cause the broken links of many Wiki pages. The old link of released images was located at : http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Omxxx Now should be link to here : http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/ I will use web link search function to fix this problem. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch But I can only fix English and Chinese version. So , if you also find some broken link on wiki page that are not fixed , feel free to correct it . That will be help. Best Regards. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community Updates/February 6, 2009 released
Dear all: The 11th community update is now available. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/February_6%2C_2009 For an easier access of the newest update,it can be also accessed by Community Box located at the left. The old version are put on Community Updates page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates From now on, Community Updates will be also available in Chinese (Traditional Chinese Simplified Chinese), please feel free to translate this into other languages if you wish. Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Google analytic records of January
Dear list: I update the Google analytic records of wiki last month. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers Application page, Android, Distribution pages still the most popular page of Wiki. Feel free to let me know , if any kind of number you want .I can export and update it on wiki. Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Xskat for the Freerunner
I add it on wiki page also. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications#Games Brenda elh ??: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:26:35 +0100, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: add it to opkg.org please Ok. I've added it just now (http://www.opkg.org/package_108.html) elh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Editing Getting start page
Dear community and documentation list: Due to the updated of software images, some information on getting start page became outdated , so I started working on updated this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner I had removed some outdated content, and updated new distributions information on it. Feel free to let me know if I missed anything? Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
December Google analytic report of Wiki
Dear Documentation team and Community : I updated the December 2008 google analytic report of of wiki. You can check it on follow link : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers#December.2C_2008 Here is the summaries : 1. Compared to November , December's visits and pageviews was lower. Probably caused by Christmas holidays. 2. Application page's rank was higher than last month. 3. There was many people use zagg discount code as the keyword to search for Zagg Protection Discount Number. That's pretty cool. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Zagg_Protection_Discount_Number Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community newsletter
Thank you for the great newsletter. Great job Brenda Minh Ha Duong ??: Hi everybody, This is Openmoko community community newsletter #8, year's end issue. This couple of weeks were packed with lots of action. Openmoko released the 2008.12 distribution upgrade and Koolu released its first Android beta. Both these were very expected and, actually contained no surprise at all, since the developpement process is completely open. Administration for projects.openmoko.org was transferred to knowledgeable community member Armin Ranjbar (nickname: zoup), and opkg.org got a complete overhaul. Contents * 1 Distributions * 2 New applications * 3 Applications updates * 4 Community * 5 Hardware * 6 Tips and tricks This is retrieved from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/December_29th%2C_2008 which has all the good links in Distributions * Om 2008.12 Update is out ! This is the fastest, latest and probably last of the ASU familly line of distributions. Officially upgrades 2008.9, optimized with faster boot, volume control during phonecall, and much more. Read the announcement, then go to the download dir. * Android. Koolu announced their first beta release. Based on Sean's image, Wendy from Openmoko produced test reports (PDF) concluding that Android Image On Freerunner really looks good, but [...] not ready to be a daily phone yet. Interesting applications waiting to be fixed to work on Freerunner include bluetooth, wifi, GPS, browser... * hackable:1 announced (documentation). Led by Marcus Bauer of TangoGPS fame, this project aims to implement the GNOME Mobile stack on top of Debian on FreeRunner. Its installation is specially simple: download the tarball, unpack the files on a 2 GB SD card, put the card in the FreeRunner. * Telefoninux 0.01 is out. First alpha release for this Debian-optimized distro. * Bytestore points out an augmented 2008.12 image with russian keyboard, GPRS and other goodies. New applications * Carlo released OpenVibe, the first opensource vibrator :) Pander also offers an open source MIDlet in a JAR to control the vibrator function. We are still waiting for test reports tought. * Yann released meooem 0.0.1, a realtime weather notifier opkg page. Setup the displayed city in /etc/meooem.conf. * Ilja pushed out version 0.1.0 of om-manager, a python Freerunner manager: flash, backup, get logs, manage packages, VNC (if x11vnc is installed on the phone). * Valéry released Neon, a simple Python/EFL image viewer, designed to be lightweight, fast, and easy to use. * Nathan shared his GPRS launcher script and the ipk for Gtkdialog it uses. The script can be used to start the connection, stop the connection, or to simply find out the current GPRS status. * Openmoko's next generation telephony, messaging and addressbook application paroli was merged with tichy, the application starter. So opkg install tichy, setup according to Mirko's email, and enjoy. * Angus offers a where are you now daemon that can SMS back its location upon request. * Chris submits for testing the prototype for a fullscreen keyboard. * A dutch keyboard for illume. * Daniel MT released Bright Player 0.1, a lightweight, quick and easy random music player for OM2008.X based distributions. * Last but not least, Josh shares an IMAP Mail reader and a collection of scripts to manage launching applications, control wifi, power, screen etc. Initially developped on 2007.2, most ported to Debian. Applications updates * OpenMoocow 0.3 released. Changes include: better graphics from openclipart.org by bsantos, more responsive, kernel 2.6.28 new sysfs paths ready, thinkpad HDAPS merged in. * ZOMG!, an opkg frontend, updated. Faster, cacao and jamvm compatible (jamvm still recommended). * navit, a drivers' GPS navigation system (trac) is being optimized for the FreeRunner by Christian Anke and others. * Damian A. Spriggs started working on a MAME port. The Multimedia Arcade Machine Emulator is a must for all retro-gamers out there. I can't wait to play P*c-M*n and G*l*xi*n again on my subway commute ! * Angus updated pymixer.py to use the FSO framework. It should automatically detect scenario changes and update the mixers now. Put fsomixer.py into /usr bin and chmod +x it. volume_fso.desktop goes into /usr/share/applications. * The Zedlock screen locker rewritten and re-released as 0.1 functional prototype. * siglaunchd, a daemon which listens to dbus signals and runs applications accordingly, got regular expressions (string patterns) matching, and was ported to C. For example, one can set the aux button to launch the dialer and the other can set a sound when screen is dimmed with as little as no effort. * Homezoneapplet 0.2. An applet and daemon to display the O2
move User:Seanmcneil3 page content to other page
Dear All: Since this page is really popular, but it is not easy to find , http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 So , I create an new page , and move content into this : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunnerother Then I also translate it into Chinese . http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner/zh_cn http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner/zh_tw Feel free to edit it. Regards. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Come to wiki to help improving user experience
Except vote , you can also put the new item on this table. William Kenworthy ??: How does one vote? - even created an account but nothing shows up to enable input. The list seems odd considering the number and type of responses Ive seen? - nothing about being able to reliably receive SMS messages, nothing about being able to make/receive phone calls which were mentioned a number of times and seems to be affecting a very large number of OM users to at least some degree. BillK On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 19:12 +0800, Wendy wrote: Hi, thanks for your help to collecting all the critical problems, it's helpful. :) For more clear picture, we creat a page in our wiki to clean it up. Please go to this page : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Improving_user_experience You can vote to those issues or add other critical problems. This will help us to verify the bugs and not lost our focus. Feel free to give us your question and suggestion. :) Regards, Wendy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Please use this page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard This page is new Olivier Berger ??: Dimitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And switching .kbd files does nothing. Flicking only toggles the different views of the keyboard, none of which contain the enter or arrow keys. (Since we're throwing out essential keys, why stop there? Let's remove some letters too. I nominate the letter E.) I reinstalled matchbox, and I see it trying to come on, but it immediately gets cock-blocked by the qtopia keyboard. If someone could please explain how to disable the qtopia keyboard, I (and many others) would be most appreciative. And having : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU up-to-date would help, I guess. ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ? Best regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Thanks for the sugestion. I will think about it seriously. Brenda Aaron Sowry ??: I think you're doing a great job. A couple of suggestions: 1) Aesthetics: Could anything be done to make the wiki more visually attractive? Orange and white are the old 1973 colours - shouldn't we have a slick green and black theme or something now that the Freerunner has been released? 2) News feed: A prominent news feed makes the site look both up-to-date and dynamic (particularly to web crawlers :). Perhaps we could have an automated feed updated once a week from relevant RSS/ATOM sources within the open-source and mobile industries? This would also be a great place for the core team to post announcements that people may miss in the mailing lists. I realise these things probably aren't primary considerations given the purpose of the wiki, but I know once the framework is there and the site becomes attractive and easy to navigate then the content will quickly follow. Aaron BrendaWang wrote: Hi, guys: I am really happy that many people join wiki editing job. And give me feedbacks. I just make these pages. EDIT WIKI is a page listed every information for edit wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edit_Wiki Wiki maintenance agenda is how I plan to reorg wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_Maintenance_Agenda More ideas , feeback and any kinds of editing will make wiki better and better. Be feel free to give me more feedback about this. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
Thanks for the great work. Brenda Minh Ha Duong ??: Dear friends, I just landed a big update to the main page ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Hope you like it. Thanks to Ferenc, Bernt, Mercury, Montgoss and Stryderjzw for helping. Please express yourself by improving it further as you see fit. It definitely can use more polish: - The layout has been tested with Firefox and Konqueror only. - Obviously feeding the news automatically from an RSS flow would be better, as Aaron said. Pending that there will be a need to feed the newsbox manually. - I support Brian's remark that DOCS should be BUGS - I add that in the same linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page. In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly vacations come first. Wishing everybody a smooth ASU experience soon, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
Pretty good. I move the language template to the top. For those non-English native user , put it on the top will make them easy to access their language. William Lai ??: Minh Ha Duong wrote: Dear friends, I just landed a big update to the main page ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page This is sooo in the right direction ;) Hope you like it. Thanks to Ferenc, Bernt, Mercury, Montgoss and Stryderjzw for helping. Thank you!! Please express yourself by improving it further as you see fit. It definitely can use more polish: - The layout has been tested with Firefox and Konqueror only. Safari looks good too. - Obviously feeding the news automatically from an RSS flow would be better, as Aaron said. Pending that there will be a need to feed the newsbox manually. Cool. - I support Brian's remark that DOCS should be BUGS How about 'Trac'? Thats what it is, and most sites that use trac link it that way. Btw, Some people like single-worded sections like: News Introduction Users Developers I personally do, but it's not a big issue. What do you guys think? - I add that in the same linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page. In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly vacations come first. Safe trip! Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
You have a pretty nice menu( I mean , menu on the right side). How to do that? Does you put jave on server site? Yaroslav Halchenko ??: I just want to follow up with another piece of PR for effort I joined (since noone expressed opinion on it in the original thread). Just have a look at wiki in a single file http://om-tiddlywiki.projects.openmoko.org/openmokowiki.html BrendaWang wrote: More ideas , feeback and any kinds of editing will make wiki better and better. Be feel free to give me more feedback about this. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.
I put Distributions page link on mainpage , now . On the Join Openmoko development Every one can find this links on Distributions section. Thanks for reminding. And feel free to let me know , what else I miss? or ??? Brenda Stroller wrote: Hi there, I thought to try fixing a small part of this particular problem by editing the main page adding a link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions But I do not see where to put it! Perhaps it should replace the Current software stack link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoSoftwareStack ?? Perhaps these 5 categories: Introduction to Openmoko Openmoko Products Join Openmoko development Openmoko community Getting started with Openmoko Wiki should be extended with the addition of Openmoko software? Or perhaps I should just get my hands dirty and change the Introduction to Openmoko to include the link to Distributions? As a user I feel reluctant to edit the main page as I feel it belongs to Openmoko the company or to Brenda, so you must tell me explicitly if you wish me to feel free. Stroller. On 17 Jul 2008, at 20:00, steve wrote: Brenda The main page index does not address Scotts issue. I second scott's criticism of the wiki. It is not organized well. A good start would be a better search engine Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Wang Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation. Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Brenda Scott Derrick ??: Perhaps this is what you seek? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions This is a great page, one of the gems hidden in the bowels of the OM Wiki. Its also a great example of whats wrong with the Wiki. But how do I find it? Its not listed on the home page, not on the FreeRunner page, not on the getting started page?Unless I search for exactly teh right word or combinations of words I would never know it existed... The only link I could find, after I knew it existed was Software/distributions/distributions.. There has to be some kind of boiler plate format for the design and layout of the Wiki so things are easier to find. You can't rely on the search engine, it sucks.. I think that was the point of the person who recommended the OpenWRT Wiki. Its design and format was easy to use and helped you find things instead of thwarting you. Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors. Citation needed?
Yes, I agree with you . Steven ** wrote: Again, probably something for the wiki mailing list, but... I'd say categories would be a simple way to accomplish at least some of this. I think every application page should have one or more category tags that specify which distro it works with. So, someone running OM2007.2 could just go to the OM2007.2 category to see software that is related to that distro. -Steven On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likewise I think there should be a template for software entries which indicates which firmware images - ASU, 2007.2 c - the page applies to. Just as the Wikipedia entry for the Lotus Elise has an inset which states it to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive, each software page should say whether the article is *about* one of the core firmwares, whether it is steps that can be applied to firmwares FSO ASU (but not to 2007.2, because that one is incompatible with, say, gpsd) or whether it's software that can be *installed* on the FSO ASU images (but is preinstalled on 2007.2). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.
Yes, these tree parts is the core of wiki. The most important . Brenda steve wrote: Organizing the wiki is a monumental task. My suggestion for the front page was three categories as opposed to your 5 1. Products. 2. Developer resources. 3. Community. No system will be perfect and no organization of data will suit everyone since we all carve The world up in different ways. That said, I would not object to the 5 categories you suggest. The biggest issue is the massive amount of knowledge the community generates about the devices. This knowledge needs to be structured and disseminated. Easier said than done. -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: steve; Brenda Wang Subject: Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation. Hi there, I thought to try fixing a small part of this particular problem by editing the main page adding a link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/ wiki/Distributions But I do not see where to put it! Perhaps it should replace the Current software stack link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ NeoSoftwareStack ?? Perhaps these 5 categories: Introduction to Openmoko Openmoko Products Join Openmoko development Openmoko community Getting started with Openmoko Wiki should be extended with the addition of Openmoko software? Or perhaps I should just get my hands dirty and change the Introduction to Openmoko to include the link to Distributions? As a user I feel reluctant to edit the main page as I feel it belongs to Openmoko the company or to Brenda, so you must tell me explicitly if you wish me to feel free. Stroller. On 17 Jul 2008, at 20:00, steve wrote: Brenda The main page index does not address Scotts issue. I second scott's criticism of the wiki. It is not organized well. A good start would be a better search engine Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Wang Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation. Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Brenda Scott Derrick ??: Perhaps this is what you seek? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions This is a great page, one of the gems hidden in the bowels of the OM Wiki. Its also a great example of whats wrong with the Wiki. But how do I find it? Its not listed on the home page, not on the FreeRunner page, not on the getting started page?Unless I search for exactly teh right word or combinations of words I would never know it existed... The only link I could find, after I knew it existed was Software/distributions/distributions.. There has to be some kind of boiler plate format for the design and layout of the Wiki so things are easier to find. You can't rely on the search engine, it sucks.. I think that was the point of the person who recommended the OpenWRT Wiki. Its design and format was easy to use and helped you find things instead of thwarting you. Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.
Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Brenda Scott Derrick ??: Perhaps this is what you seek? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions This is a great page, one of the gems hidden in the bowels of the OM Wiki. Its also a great example of whats wrong with the Wiki. But how do I find it? Its not listed on the home page, not on the FreeRunner page, not on the getting started page?Unless I search for exactly teh right word or combinations of words I would never know it existed... The only link I could find, after I knew it existed was Software/distributions/distributions.. There has to be some kind of boiler plate format for the design and layout of the Wiki so things are easier to find. You can't rely on the search engine, it sucks.. I think that was the point of the person who recommended the OpenWRT Wiki. Its design and format was easy to use and helped you find things instead of thwarting you. Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hi guys : I would like to remind everyone, This page is Official One. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner Brenda BrendaWang wrote: Here is the getting start guide from wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner Shakthi Kannan 提到: Hi! --- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | One comment on Chapter 7: | Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for | dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date. | | That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X | There is also an Openmoko Flasher tool for the Macintosh since August 2007. \-- Thanks! Updated the documentation. The wiki documentation is comprehensive, and I feel just pointers to links and necessary documentation to get people started should be kept in this Quick Start User Guide. The User Manual can contain the complete documentation available in the wiki. Just my thoughts, SK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Our new Main page of wiki
Here is the design environment I used. Following link is how it looks like . http://picasaweb.google.com.tw/brenda0810/Wiki/photo#5190566071299160210 My resolution is 1024*768 Under Windows XP IE 6.0, Mac salaries will look like the attached file.(1024*768 windows ) Under Linux Firefox 2.0.0.13/Mac Firefox 3.1, the title will turn to black. (My setting is use the default color) The wiki skin I used is Openmoko (default). Brenda Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 4/18/08, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Too big? Which resolution do you use? 300x200? Ok, with 1920x1200 many things can be too small (specially flash videos and fixed sized hps) but I think this is also in an usual resolution too small.The solution to make it bigger at my browser is not the right way i think. Many people don't have good eyes and they should also can read the menu. This is a compromise between too big and including people which use too high resolution. If you have this big resolution, and you don't have any problems on other web pages, you don't have a problem here, right? Adjusting the font size is easy (ctrl-+), except if you use IE (you have to go on View - Text size - Largest if you use IE). Some people use special glasses when they use the computer... you cannot expect this wiki to use 24pt text. People like to see more than just a few words at a time. I want to see the whole page without horizontal scrolling and the whole index table without vertical scrolling. I think I am not the only one. I do not have larger resolution that 800x600 here (very little screen), and really hate too large fonts. That is just my opinion. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Our Wiki page views
Hi , Every one : Attached file is our wiki Top 50 page views this month since 10, Mar to 30. Unfortunately , I can't export the file with English version. Just for reference. Regards. Brenda Analytics_wiki.openmoko.org_20080229-20080330_(TopContentReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wiki page views --English version
Hi , Every one : Attached file is our wiki Top 50 page views this month since 10, Mar to 30. Fortunately , someone help me to transfer to English version. Just for reference. Brenda Analytics_wiki.openmoko.org_20080229-20080330_(TopContentReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko Wiki Official Index Page updated news
Hi, everybody: Openmoko Wiki Official Index Page now is almost finished. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Official_Index_Page It collect All pages link. Then every title will be put into category by its content . If you create the new page, you can help us to put the new title into the index page too. Brenda ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OPENMOKO WIKI Official Index Page updated
Hi everybody : I put the All pages' link into OPENMOKO WIKI Official Index Page, except some pages has no content , but just titles. It will be helpful to take the overview of wiki . http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OPENMOKO_WIKI_Official_Index_Page And you can link this page from the main page of wiki , too. Brenda ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OPENMOKO WIKI Official Index Page
Dear all: OpenMoko Wiki Official Index Page 's Link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OPENMOKO_WIKI_Official_Index_Page Brenda Wang ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO WIKI Official Index Page
Thanks for your suggestion. I will follow it . Brenda Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia Wednesday, 20 of February 2008, Brenda Wang napisała: OpenMoko Wiki Official Index Page 's Link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OPENMOKO_WIKI_Official_Index_Page Brenda: please use [[wiki page name]] instead of [http://URL-to/wiki/page page] in content. [[wiki page name]] is rendered in other way then [URL name] - second ones are marked as external links. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
To everybody! Brenda -Full time editor on board
Hello everybody: I am Brenda Wang. I'm OpenMoko's full time editor. I was on board on 18, Feb. My job here is editing OpenMoko wiki, and make wiki more organized. Firstly, I will create a page as an Index. The page's name is OPENMOKO WIKI Offical Index Page. It is like a book's Index; then you can find things easily. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or questions. Regard. Brenda Wang ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
