Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Graham Williams
Received Sun 14 Oct 2007  4:17am +1000 from Lorn Potter:
> Ryan Prior wrote:
>> Nope, no trick. QTopia just doesn't have support for power saving on 
>> Neo1973 last I heard, so the battery you're life is the battery life 
>> everybody's getting. It is an issue that will be resolved, though.
>
> It does have support for resume/suspend. We just turn it off by default 
> because the modem seems to go wonky. If you do turn on suspending, you just 
> have to restart Qtopia to make phone calls/sms again.
>
> As far as I know, this seems to effect Openmoko as well, unless I am wrong.
>
>
>> On 10/13/07, *Joseph Heenan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>> Graham Williams wrote:
>>  > However, I have been using the Neo as my main phone for making and
>>  > receiving phone calls and messaging for a couple of weeks now using
>>  > the Qtopia image (
>> http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php).
>> Possibly silly question, but how did you manage this? For me, the 
>> qtopia
>> images seemed to completely empty the battery within about 5 hours
>> without even making any calls so I feel I'm missing an obvious trick 
>> :)

Yes, 5 hours seems to be the limit. So, as long as I plug it in to the
USB whilst working, and then my meetings and travelling last no more
than 5 hours, all is well!!!

Regards,
Graham

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Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-12 Thread Graham Williams
Not quite true that you can't make calls! Many have been making calls
and messaging. Just not all that easy (e.g., using ssh/command line
interfaces).

However, I have been using the Neo as my main phone for making and
receiving phone calls and messaging for a couple of weeks now using
the Qtopia image (http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php). 

It is quite reliable and it does demonstrate that the hardware (at
least this part of it) does work! 

But the future is OpenMoko and it is slowly getting there.

Regards,
Graham


Received Sat 13 Oct 2007 12:09pm +1000 from Ryan Prior:
> The fact is that the "first version" was put out early so that hardware
> hackers and developers could get their hands on the phone in advance. The
> hardware is simply not ready for consumers, but hopefully with the help of
> all the people who have bought the hardware and are hacking on it we will
> have a good product when GTA02 is launched. GTA02 will use the same
> software, and the things that benefit the GTA01 will carry over to the GTA02
> -- the difference is that the GTA02 will have better hardware, allowing it
> to be more useful and competitive in the marketplace. More hardware options
> is a good thing, and the software will improve -- so buy a phone now and get
> hacking, start writing software on your own computer and wait to buy
> hardware, or just sit it out and wait for the consumer-ready product to come
> out (in about a year, by my relatively uneducated estimation).
> 
> Hope that clears up the current state of things a bit.
> 
> On 10/12/07, Doug Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  I have not purchased a Neo yet but I bid on one and ebay and lost.
> > Just wanted to say, I hope that the focus on making calls is top
> > on the priority list. It seems a bit bizarre that there is another
> > version in the works when you can't make calls on the first. It
> > would make more sense to get the basics of calling working on
> > version one before even talking about WIFI and accelerometers.
> > A phone that cannot make calls: not a phone!
> >
> >   --  Doug
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Re: Anyone, not billed yet?

2007-07-31 Thread Graham . Williams
>
> On 31 Jul 2007, at 12:36, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I have order number 2775, and haven't been billed yet.
>
> This is about the only indicator of where we're at, billing has got
> to the 2500s.
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/P1_Owners
>
> I'm 2615 and I'm waiting to be billed, I'd rather they did it now so
> I know the payment goes through ok.

Ouch - I had been wondering why my order had not been processed, and yet
many numbers after my order number (orders >2010) were being processed. I
responded to the YES_I_DO immediately I received the email. But
apparently, after I finally got a response from the obviously very busy
OpenMoko crew, they did not receive my YES_I_DO!!!

Looks like I'm in for a lng wait for the next batch.

Regards,
Graham


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