Re: Q: desktop software?
I would like to use FreeNX to use the Neo1973 from a Workstation, and to have video projctor presentation live from a Neo1973. That sounds like a fantastic idea. It should be pretty simple to get something like FreeNX up and running on the device. Then a full emulation to use the full Neo1973 power (beside the touchscreen) on a workstation as well. Other than the touchscreen what sort of power are you referring to? I'm probably thinking to literally as desktops are far more powerful than a handheld. Very cool would be an emulation via web with java, (maybe with FreeNX again) without any local installation. (in this case with an own server running the emulation) So when the Neo1973 would get lost, lay at home/in the car only access to any (trustworthy) workstation would be ok to use the Neo1973. Remember for as trivial as that may be to set up for slightly more technical folks, imagine if a very non technical person (i'm thinking of my mother right now) were to have to buy a new computer and found herself locked out of her phone. Now it's simple to say that they should read the manual(s) that come with the device, however we do know that no one reads them and everyone loses them. I will say that I would love love love to see that as an option! Then do I think that client/server solution would become more important then device/desktop software one, even for normal user. I think that the client/server solution is far more powerful and flexible, however the simplicity of Hotsync the one touch backup of your palm device is what made it so popular in the first place. I can take my Treo 650 home every day, connect a cord, press one button, and It's connected, now that's convience. I feel that that's the sort of conveince and simplicty that we should shoot for. One touch backkup is a fantastic convience and a big +1 when it comes to deciding on a phone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Q: desktop software?
Salve Bryce! On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Bryce Leo wrote: I would like to use FreeNX to use the Neo1973 from a Workstation, and to have video projctor presentation live from a Neo1973. That sounds like a fantastic idea. It should be pretty simple to get something like FreeNX up and running on the device. Then a full emulation to use the full Neo1973 power (beside the touchscreen) on a workstation as well. Other than the touchscreen what sort of power are you referring to? Primary the touchscreen and that curser and the Neo GUI should make visibel that a virtual finger has touched a button so that it is more intuitive to understand what happens. Than screenrecordings with visuable virtual fingers and spoken comments would be nice, so that beside of live presentations, people could get impression how the Neo and it's software is used. I'm probably thinking to literally as desktops are far more powerful than a handheld. Routing of Sound would be a task as well - that the sound of the Neo will transmitted with FreeNX to the workstation which is connected to the fix-room-installed PA (room sound system). So when the Neo1973 would get lost, lay at home/in the car only access to any (trustworthy) workstation would be ok to use the Neo1973. Remember for as trivial as that may be to set up for slightly more technical folks, imagine if a very non technical person (i'm thinking of my mother right now) were to have to buy a new computer and found herself locked out of her phone. Now it's simple to say that they should read the manual(s) that come with the device, however we do know that no one reads them and everyone loses them. The documentation of OpenMoko/Neo1973 should be on the Neo itself. I will say that I would love love love to see that as an option! Then do I think that client/server solution would become more important then device/desktop software one, even for normal user. I think that the client/server solution is far more powerful and flexible, however the simplicity of Hotsync the one touch backup of your palm device is what made it so popular in the first place. I can take my Treo 650 home every day, connect a cord, press one button, and It's connected, now that's convience. I feel that that's the sort of conveince and simplicty that we should shoot for. One touch backkup is a fantastic convience and a big +1 when it comes to deciding on a phone. This is a possible way but think about this - installing new software you know apt-cache search IRC, apt-cache show epic3, apt-get install epic3 so when there is a graphical solution that the very non technical person could choose directly on the device what he whants to installl... - back up because the Neo1973 has a USB host and device mode, it would be possible that the usr can define a virtual USB memory device. a Backup software on the Neo could behave like this: Backup Welcome to your OpenMoko Backup tool. Your Backup will create 54 MB big file, which you could copy from the Neo1973 to your PC when you connect them with your No1973 via [USB] [Bluetooth] [GPRS] please select. The file will be generated and you can copy from any other maschine. The Neo1973 will reconginice that you have copied the backup-file complete. The same for storing the backup back... start the Restore tool and copy back your backupfile. Ah you mean there are users can't work with a shell or a filemanager? A small application for copy c:\OpenMoko\Backup-RoberMichel-070129-15.bz2 back to the USB memory device with the name OpenMoko-RobertMichel? A small Program that creates a Internet Routing for the Neo, when it is connected to the PC? I would like to see solutions as much as possible independent of the Workstation systems and installation from the Neo1973 (maybe with autorun from USB-Stick) then from a CD-ROM. And to do this on a secure way, that you can backup/sycronice in an internet cafe with your server, your NSLU2 at home without any risks and any problems due the restiction of normal Internet Cafes. I think from smart client/server solutions will profit even non technical persons. Greetings rob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Q: desktop software?
* Bryce Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070129 15:09]: I would like to use FreeNX to use the Neo1973 from a Workstation, and to have video projctor presentation live from a Neo1973. That sounds like a fantastic idea. It should be pretty simple to get something like FreeNX up and running on the device. For the size of the display, you might get even better results with VNC. Andreas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Q: desktop software?
Salve Oleg! On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Oleg L. Sverdlov wrote: What software is planned on desktop side? If any. I would like to use FreeNX to use the Neo1973 from a Workstation, and to have video projctor presentation live from a Neo1973. Then a full emulation to use the full Neo1973 power (beside the touchscreen) on a workstation as well. Very cool would be an emulation via web with java, (maybe with FreeNX again) without any local installation. (in this case with an own server running the emulation) So when the Neo1973 would get lost, lay at home/in the car only access to any (trustworthy) workstation would be ok to use the Neo1973. Mabye emulation including doing calls via Voip Then do I think that client/server solution would become more important then device/desktop software one, even for normal user. So before starting a seperate desktop software, my quetion is, what more then standard desktop software would be thinkable? Greetings, rob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Q: desktop software?
um, isn't syncml supported out of the box? I swear I remember hearing that On 1/27/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question. I think it was mentioned earlier that the phone will support some stand protocols for syncing (syncml comes to mind). However, it still isn't an easy task to get you synced up with Outlook. That would be a GREAT thing to put in the wiki. How to sync with Outlook (via whatever) as that will probably be a top request. I've tried to look into what all would be involved in setting up a server, but didn't really get that far (didn't spend that much time though). If someone knows of a good guide, then please post. Keep the ideas flowing! On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 21:08 +0200, Oleg L. Sverdlov wrote: What software is planned on desktop side? If any. This is important thing IMHO. There are good and bad examples. Palm Desktop for Windows was good. I'm using it from 1998, did not loose any data. It serves both as organizer, address book and as palm synchronization. That is what I call high quality software. On the other side, software with Zaurus handheld was just unusable. The lack of good desktop sync software contributed to the failure of Zaurus organizer project. Oleg ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
