Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-23 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Torsten Röhl writes:
>Am Samstag, 20. Januar 2007 18:39 schrieb Sencer:
>thank you, for the good link ...
>i have two questions
>i) gtk+ is c based (but i allways think in c++ ) do you think it's possible 
>also use the "gtk+ c++" bindings for neo1973? - or is this a bad
>idea...

I highly recommend it.  Nearly all the GUI writing I do uses the gtkmm
bindings.

>ii) i read it's also possible to use gtk+  and c++ (with static callbacks) do 
>you think maybe this would be possible on neo1973

I would expect it to be.

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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-23 Thread Torsten Röhl
Am Samstag, 20. Januar 2007 18:39 schrieb Sencer:
thank you, for the good link ...
i have two questions
i) gtk+ is c based (but i allways think in c++ ) do you think it's possible 
also use the "gtk+ c++" bindings for neo1973? - or is this a bad idea...
ii) i read it's also possible to use gtk+  and c++ (with static callbacks) do 
you think maybe this would be possible on neo1973


- torsten 

> > I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on the
> > neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice to play
> > with.
>
> This should get you started:
> http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sencer
>
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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-22 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 22:15 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Sencer wrote:
> 
> >>  I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on the
> >>  neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice to play
> >>  with.
> >
> > This should get you started:
> > http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/
> 
> I've started a page on the wiki to gather information of this sort. Please 
> add to it,
> and if anyone can think of a better way to organize this info please have at 
> it:
> 
> http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/QuestionsAndAnswers
> 
> Michael
> 

Cool Michael, I also added some of this info on the software page under
development tools section. There is much that could be documented in
advance of the software/hardware release on feb 11.

Great!

Jon

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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-20 Thread michael

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Sencer wrote:


 I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on the
 neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice to play
 with.


This should get you started:
http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/


I've started a page on the wiki to gather information of this sort. Please add 
to it,
and if anyone can think of a better way to organize this info please have at it:

http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/QuestionsAndAnswers

Michael

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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-20 Thread Pierre Hébert
On Saturday 20 January 2007 16:48, Wil Chung wrote:

> I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on
> the neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice
> to play with.

Have a look at http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_arm_qemu.php for 
example, it is  a good start to play with the QEMU emulator. There is 
few limits with this tool, we should be able to run almost all OpenMoko 
apps with it :-)

regard,

Pierre.

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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-20 Thread Sencer

I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on the
neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice to play
with.


This should get you started:
http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/


Regards

Sencer

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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-20 Thread Wil Chung

I usually don't like to chime in with a "me too" post, but in this case, I
guess I'd like to emphasize interest.  I'm a developer, though I don't have
specific experience with embedded linux platforms, so I'm unable to put all
the details together on how one goes from source to fun-on-neo1973.

I would also like to see some type of tutorial for a 'hello world' on the
neo, or if there's an emulator available right now, it'd be nice to play
with.

Wilhelm

On 1/20/07, Rodolphe Ortalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is there a usable emulator for the environment too?

Btw, once the openmoko-specific source code is available, how will it be
available (as an extension of openembedded?)?
Are there any details somewhere on how we will be supposed to start
developping new applications and test them (in an emulator for
convenience if possible)?

Sorry if some of these questions look simplistic for an experienced
mobile phone developper... (I am not one evidently.)

Rodolphe

Le vendredi 19 janvier 2007 à 12:55 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Koen Kooi wrote:
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Mark McClellan schreef:
> >> Thanks Koen,
> >>
> >> I'll start looking at the backend. Of course my next question will
be,
> >> how do I setup a dev environmnet for openmoko? But i'll wait on that
one
> >> since it's been asked 100 times so far on the list :)
> >
> > Follow the instructions on http://openembedded.org, MACHINE=ep93xx,
DISTRO=generic should
> > build compatible binaries.
> > Developers: you have the chance get used to the build system *right
now*, so use it.
>
> Excellent! Thanks Koen. This will be my project for the weekend. My
first Neo
> 1973 app!
>
> Michael
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Re: OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

2007-01-20 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
Is there a usable emulator for the environment too?

Btw, once the openmoko-specific source code is available, how will it be
available (as an extension of openembedded?)?
Are there any details somewhere on how we will be supposed to start
developping new applications and test them (in an emulator for
convenience if possible)?

Sorry if some of these questions look simplistic for an experienced
mobile phone developper... (I am not one evidently.)

Rodolphe

Le vendredi 19 janvier 2007 à 12:55 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Koen Kooi wrote:
> 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Mark McClellan schreef:
> >> Thanks Koen,
> >>
> >> I'll start looking at the backend. Of course my next question will be,
> >> how do I setup a dev environmnet for openmoko? But i'll wait on that one
> >> since it's been asked 100 times so far on the list :)
> >
> > Follow the instructions on http://openembedded.org, MACHINE=ep93xx, 
> > DISTRO=generic should
> > build compatible binaries.
> > Developers: you have the chance get used to the build system *right now*, 
> > so use it.
> 
> Excellent! Thanks Koen. This will be my project for the weekend. My first Neo
> 1973 app!
> 
> Michael
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