Re: [Community-Discuss] Message of Condolences to the family and friends of Mr. Serge Kabwika Ilunga

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

Really gone too soon. The AFRINIC community will surely miss you. Rest on
Serge!

Tim


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On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eddy Kayihura  wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> It is with profound sadness that we have learnt about the untimely death
> of our Board Member, Mr Serge Kabwika Ilunga.
>
> Mr Serge Kabwika Ilunga has served as a member of the AFRINIC Board since
> July 2017. While on the Board, Mr. Ilunga served on different committees
> including the Audit and the Remuneration Committees.
>
> Mr. Ilunga was the CEO of CSTelecomex. He has been actively involved in
> the development of the ICT sector in D.R. Congo where he served for many
> years numerous organisations including Vodacom Congo in several positions,
> BSDCongo, a non profit association that works to spread ICT in D.R Congo
> and promote freeware, among others.
>
> He was also a Member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics
> Engineers (IEEE), Internet Society and was actively involved in several
> capacity building programs in D.R. Congo, contributing  to the Organisation
> of the first National Internet Governance Forum in D.R.Congo, the
> organisation of the Central Africa Internet Governance Forum, the
> deployment of KINIX (Kinshasa Exchange Point), among others.
>
> We wish to extend our deepest and most heartfelt condolences to the
> bereaved family, friends and to the Global Internet community.
>
> May his soul rest in eternal peace.
> Eddy Kayihura,
> Chief Executive Officer,
> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)
> c...@afrinic.net
>
> ……..
>
> Chers collègues,
>
> C'est avec une profonde tristesse que nous avons appris le décès prématuré
> de notre membre du conseil d'administration, Monsieur Serge Kabwika Ilunga.
> M. Serge Kabwika Ilunga était membre du conseil d'administration d'Afrinic
> depuis juillet 2017. M. Ilunga a siégé dans différents comités, notamment
> les comités d'audit et de rémunération.
>
> M. Ilunga était le directeur général de CSTelecomex. Il a été activement
> impliqué dans le développement du secteur des TIC en R.D. Congo où il a
> servi pendant de nombreuses années de nombreuses organisations dont Vodacom
> Congo à plusieurs postes, BSDCongo, une association à but non lucratif qui
> œuvre pour la diffusion des TIC au Congo et la promotion des logiciels
> libres, entre autres.
>
> Il était également membre de l'Institute of Electrical and Electronics
> Engineers (IEEE), de l'Internet Society et a participé activement à
> plusieurs programmes de renforcement des capacités en R.D. Congo,
> contribuant à l'organisation du premier Forum national sur la gouvernance
> de l'Internet en R.D. Congo, à l'organisation du Forum sur la gouvernance
> de l'Internet en Afrique centrale, au déploiement de KINIX (Kinshasa
> Exchange Point), entre autres.
>
> Nous souhaitons présenter nos plus sincères et profondes condoléances à la
> famille et aux amis endeuillés ainsi qu'à la communauté Internet mondiale.
> Que son âme repose dans la paix éternelle.
>
> Eddy Kayihura,
> Chief Executive Officer,
> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)
> c...@afrinic.net
>
> ….
>
> زملائي الاعزاء،
> لقد علمنا بحزن عميق بوفاة عضو مجلس الإدارة السيد سيرج كابويكا إيلونجا في
> وقت مبكر.
> عمل السيد Serge Kabwika Ilunga كعضو في مجلس إدارة AFRINIC منذ يوليو
> 2017.أثناء عضويته في مجلس الإدارة ، عمل السيد إلونجا في لجان مختلفة بما في
> ذلك لجان التدقيق والمكافآت.
> السيد Ilunga كان الرئيس التنفيذي لشركة CSTelecomex. شارك بنشاط في تطوير
> قطاع تكنولوجيا المعلومات والاتصالات في D.R. الكونغو حيث خدم لسنوات عديدة في
> العديد من المنظمات بما في ذلك Vodacom Congo في عدة مناصب ، BSDCongo ، وهي
> جمعية غير ربحية تعمل على نشر تكنولوجيا المعلومات والاتصالات في جمهورية
> الكونغو الديمقراطية والترويج للبرامج المجانية ، من بين أمور أخرى.
> كان أيضًا عضوًا في معهد مهندسي الكهرباء والإلكترونيات (IEEE) ، وجمعية
> الإنترنت وشارك بنشاط في العديد من برامج بناء القدرات في D.R. ساهم الكونغو
> في تنظيم المنتدى الوطني الأول لإدارة الإنترنت في جمهورية الكونغو
> الديمقراطية ، وتنظيم منتدى حوكمة الإنترنت في وسط إفريقيا ، ونشر KINIX
> (Kinshasa Exchange Point) ، من بين أمور أخرى.
> نود أن نتقدم بأعمق وأخلص تعازينا للأسرة المكلومة والأصدقاء ومجتمع الإنترنت
> العالمي.
> قد تبقى روحه في فسيح جناته.
> إيدي كاييهورا ،
> الرئيس التنفيذى،
> المركز الأفريقي لمعلومات الشبكة (AFRINIC)
> c...@afrinic.net
>
>

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank accounts

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

Waoh, thanks for making my day with this.
God bless and continually keep the AFRINIC Community!
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have to hunt for happiness." ~ William E. Gladstone


On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:01 PM Eddy Kayihura  wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Please see the message below that was shared with our members.
> --
>
> Kind Regards
>
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> *From: *Eddy Kayihura 
> *Subject: **[members-discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank
> accounts*
> *Date: *15 October 2021 at 14:53:03 GMT+4
> *To: *AfriNIC Discuss 
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> We are happy to inform our stakeholders that there was a court hearing
> today with regard to our application for removal of the freezing order
> against AFRINIC.
>
>
> The Court, after considering our application and the case initiated by
> Cloud Innovation Ltd, has declared the order null and void. In short,
> AFRINIC has won this case against Cloud Innovation Ltd.
>
>
> There is another Appeal to be heard on 11th November 2021. We will keep
> you informed of the outcome and we are quietly optimistic that justice will
> prevail.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Eddy Kayihura
> Chief Executive Officer
> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)
> c...@afrinic.net
>
> …...
>
> Chers Collègues,
>
> Nous sommes heureux de vous informer qu'une audience a eu lieu aujourd'hui
> au tribunal concernant notre demande de levée de l'ordonnance de gel des
> comptes d'AFRINIC.
>
>
> Le tribunal, après avoir examiné notre demande et l'affaire initiée par
> Cloud Innovation Ltd, a déclaré l'ordonnance nulle et non avenue. En bref,
> AFRINIC a gagné ce procès contre Cloud Innovation Ltd.
>
>
> Un autre appel doit être entendu le 11 novembre 2021. Nous vous tiendrons
> informés du dénouement et nous sommes optimistes quant à la justice.
>
> Cordialement,
>
> Eddy Kayihura
> Directeur général
> Le Centre d'information du réseau africain
> c...@afrinic.net
> ……...
>
> زملائي الاعزاء،
>
> يسعدنا إبلاغ أصحاب المصلحة لدينا أنه كانت هناك جلسة استماع اليوم فيما
> يتعلق بطلبنا لإزالة أمر التجميد ضد AFRINIC.
>
>
> أعلنت المحكمة ، بعد النظر في طلبنا والقضية التي رفعتها شركة Cloud
> Innovation Ltd ، أن الأمر باطل ولاغٍ. باختصار ، فازت AFRINIC بقضيتها ضد
> Cloud Innovation Ltd.
>
>
> هناك نداء آخر سيتم الاستماع إليه في 11 نوفمبر. سنبقيك على اطلاع بالنتيجة
> ونحن متفائلون بهدوء بأن العدالة ستسود.
>
> AFRINIC للاتصالات
>
> .
>
> Caros colegas,
>
> Temos o prazer de informar as nossas partes interessadas de que houve hoje
> uma audiência judicial relativamente ao nosso pedido de retirada da ordem
> de congelamento contra a AFRINIC.
>
>
> O Tribunal, após considerar o nosso pedido e o processo iniciado pela
> Cloud Innovation Ltd, declarou a ordem nula e sem efeito. Em suma, a
> AFRINIC ganhou o seu processo contra a Cloud Innovation Ltd.
>
>
> Há outro recurso a ser ouvido a 11 de Novembro de 2021. Manter-vos-emos
> informados sobre o resultado e estamos tranquilamente optimistas de que a
> justiça prevalecerá.
>
> Cumprimentos,
>
> Eddy Kayihura
> Chefe do Executivo
> O Centro de Informação da Rede Africana
> c...@afrinic.net
>
>
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> in Africa”
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>
>
>
> 

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

+1 Sylvain!



On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 12:48 AM Sylvain Baya  wrote:

> Dear AfriNIC's Community,
>
> Please see my comments below, inline...
>
> Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <
> community-discuss@afrinic.net> a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:30 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <
>> community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > This will be very simple to resolve (not taking a position in one side
>> or the other because I don't have all the real facts and documents).
>> >
>> > The original justificacion of the request of the resources I don't
>> think it had so many "secret" and "confidential" details. After several
>> years if any "secrets" were there, probably aren't longer something that
>> can't published now.
>>
>>
> How come that INRs management becomes a
> matter of such secrets?
>
> Please Jordi or any other volunteer, let me know if
> you are willing to contribute to draft a DPP to
> remove the possibility of keeping such, apparently,
> unjustified secrets.
>

I'm willing to contribute!

>
>
>
>> We have already agreed that the original justification is no longer
>> relevant and that, like any ISP in business for more than 8 years, things
>> have changed and we have adapted.
>>
>>
> Dear Owen,
>
> ...strange! is/was it an adaptation for the good of
> the AfriNIC's service region?
>
> Please, could you enlightenned us on those
> interesting details?
>
> ...moving 90% of INRs out of the AfriNIC's service
> region, without any Inter RIR transfer policy, seems
> to be your best way to support the grow of this RIR
> region.
>
>
>
>> > So why not CI, voluntarely publish that information? I don't have any
>> stance on this game, but if I was CI, this will be the best way to probe my
>> points.
>>
>> Because it is no longer relevant.
>>
>> > Otherwise, I will suggest that AFRINIC asks the court to incorporate
>> that in the proceedings if is not there already, this way, whatever is the
>> result of the case, everybody will know it. At least in the countries I
>> know, the results of the cases are public, as well as the documents that
>> were incorporated during all the process: transparency.
>>
>>
> Jordi, maybe it's simply time to stop allowing such
> secrets.
>
>
> In reality, even if a curative submission is required (if the last filed
>> justification to which I do not have access, TBH), I would suggest they
>> simply modify their justification to the following:
>>
>> We will use the addresses to number internet connected hosts on our own
>> infrastructure and on our customers’ networks.
>>
>> This is a justification which meets the letter of the law of the policy
>> and which does not preclude leasing.
>
>
>
> Owen,
> ...are you considering the notions of *conservation*
>  and *reservations*?
>
> Knowing the understanding of the current
> implementers of the CPM, it's clear that one shall
> need to submit a convincing addressing plan
> before receiving any INR allocation.
>
> Shalom,
> --sb.
>
>
>>
>> Owen
>> [...]
>
>
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Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

My sentiments exactly *Ish*.
I mean I had to go back and check the mailing list archives to be sure it
is the same Mr. Paul Wollner.
Conspiracy or Coincidence Theory? Only time will tell and history will
surely remember us all!

Best!
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On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 7:28 AM Ish Sookun 
wrote:

> The bigger surprise is the that this statement is from someone who ran for
> the
> AFRINIC Board Director seat.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Ish Sookun
>
> On Friday, 30 July 2021 21:44:09 +04 ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:
> > Dear Paul,
> > I am surprised by this. Why would you think it is in anyone's interest
> for
> > AFRINIC to close shop. I can't imagine that. AFRINIC has come to stay
> like
> > any of the other RIRs. Mistakes might have been made who knows ? but am
> > sure it's not the end of the world. Things can still be corrected and we
> > end up with a win-win.
> >
> >
> > AK
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 10:16 PM Paul Wollner <
> >
> > paul.woll...@africaoncloud.net> wrote:
> > > The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and
> > > especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet
> > > http://lexpress.mu, which is
> > > attached to this email, regarding the AFRINIC’s inability to keep
> > > providing its core registry functions due to its inability to meet its
> > > financial requirements.
> > >
> > > I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other
> business's
> > > hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core
> registry
> > > service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as
> > > well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s
> > > registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled
> some
> > > time later. (
> > >
> https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund
> > > )
> > >
> > > That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results
> come
> > > out of litigation.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Paul Wollner
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Community-Discuss] Ongoing thefts of AFRINIC Legacy Resources -- Ongoing collusion?

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

Comments inline
PS: So I noticed my earlier email was sent to only Jane. (copied below)


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No this is just out of place!

Ronald's response should not be taken out of context here. Some of us have
been watching from the sides not cos we don't want to contribute but
clearly monitoring the developments. Even in the law courts, an accused is
still innocent until proven guilty...so what are you trying to pull?

Best for you is to retract this before you lead this community into another
round of chaos over an unfound accusation!

<./toa>


On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:41 PM Antone Bahu 
wrote:

> Hello Jane,
>
>
> A very important thing which I always bear in mind is that this list
> requires reasonable and sensible discussions.
>
> It is true that different people may have different opinions, but we need
> to respect each other’s way of thinking. Sometimes certain tones are just
> improper and should not be condoned.
>
Well said

>
> Also, I think it is not necessary to stir up fatuous allegations and
> chaos in this forum. To show respect, one shall always use their real
> identity instead of hiding under the guise of an alias or pseudonyms. I
> think that is also an act of respect; being genuine is imperative to a
> meaningful discussion. This way orderliness will be a culture.
>
Humour me please, but ain't you guilty of the same? Maybe we should know
the identity of the 'blackboythinking'...do you mind?
There seems to be another Anthony on this list and my tiny mind can pick
his full name from yours above, if the letters were rearranged of course.

>
> I believe everyone’s contribution to this list is valuable if we have
> respect and rationality.
>
Exactly!

>
> Also, I think it is reasonable for the board and staff to stand up to
> Ronald on the subject he raised.
>
The accusations are too strong and serious to be swept under the carpet. So
let the community hope that in due time justice will be done.

> Kind regards,
>
> Anthony
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 4:01 PM A.T Jane  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> From Ronald’s reply, it’s clear that Madhvi, AFRINIC’s Senior IP
>> Resources Specialist was involved in this entire scandal. She tried to help
>> Ernst to conceal this entire thing and it really confuses me why such a
>> person shall still be in the position of “Senior IP Resources Specialist”
>> when it’s obvious that she doesn’t even respect policy herself.
>>
>> It is just as if someone who is in the position of a security guard; he
>> knows someone who illegally break into the place but still keeps his mouth
>> shut.
>>
>> Shall this person be still in this position? Isn’t it this whole thing
>> absurd? I have never seen anything more corrupt and darker than this.
>>
>> Jane
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Re: [Community-Discuss] Filling Board Casual vacancies: Call for Public Comments

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

Thanks Chair for this laudable move. Comments in line please.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 10:00 AM Bope Christian 
wrote:

>
> [version français ci-dessous]
>
> Dear AFRINIC members and community,
>
> The AFRINIC Board has decided on a process for filling the vacant seats in
> the Board of Directors.  The process is published at <
> https://afrinic.net/images/afrinic-director-selection-process-20180628-en.pdf
> >.
>
> 20 expressions of interest have been received, but not all of the
> interested persons have confirmed their consent for publication of their CV
> and other information.  Information about those who have consented is
> published at .  *Information about the
> remaining persons will be added if they consent.*
>
This sounds like the list may be updated if any of the remaining persons
eventually consent to have their information published. If this is correct,
then how long is the board going to wait or what is the time frame given to
the remaining persons?

If otherwise, a clarification of the above may be necessary.

>
> The Board invites comments on their suitability for appointment as
> Directors of AFRINIC, via the web form at  .
>
> Comments should be submitted no later than 10 July 2018, 12: 00 UTC.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Christian D. Bope, PhD
> Chairman, AFRINIC Board
>
> . . .
>
> [français]
>
> Chers membres et communauté d'AFRINIC,
>
> Le Conseil d'administration d'AFRINIC a décidé d'un processus pour
> pourvoir les sièges vacants au sein du Conseil d'administration. Le
> processus est publié à l'adresse <
> https://afrinic.net/images/afrinic-director-selection-process-20180628-en.pdf
> >
>
> 20 manifestations d'intérêt ont été reçues, mais toutes les personnes
> intéressées n'ont pas confirmé leur consentement à la publication de leur
> CV et d'autres informations. Les informations sur ceux qui ont consenti
> sont publiées sur . Des informations sur les
> personnes restantes seront ajoutées si elles y consentent.
>
> Le Conseil sollicite des commentaires sur leur aptitude à être nommé
> Directeur d'AFRINIC, via le formulaire en ligne à l'adresse  <
> https://afrinic.net/bod183>.
>
>  Les commentaires doivent être soumis au plus tard le 10 Juillet 2018, 12:
> 00 UTC.
>
> Cordialement,
> Christian D. Bope, PhD
> Président du Conseil d’Administration d’AFRINIC
>
>
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Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Faulty result for Western Africa in AfriNIC AGMM Elections

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

Thanks Ashok for the clarification. However, I have an observation;


   - All open positions shall be subject to an election process even if
   there is only one candidate. In that event, *if the option [none of the
   above] got more votes than the only candidate*, then the seat shall be
   considered vacant and the Board will be requested to apply provisions of
   the Bylaws to temporarily fill the vacant seat.


>From the highlighted, this was explicitly stated and can be interpreted to
be applicable if there was *only* *one* *candidate.* This was clearly not
the case for the Western Africa seat so the [*human, visible, touchable and
real*] candidate with the highest votes should be declared winner, not
a [*virtual
and invisible*], None of the Above, IMHO.

Best!

Tim

On May 17, 2018 5:19 PM, "Ashok"  wrote:

Dear Members and Community,
Mt views have been sought on the matter under reference.
Please find same hereunder.

On 17/05/2018 14:04, B

*The Election Process and last AGMM.*

The appointment of Directors is carried out during an AGMM of the Company
–Art 13.1 of the constitution.

The election of the Directors is carried out in terms of Art 13.2 of the
constitution which refers expressly to the election process approved by the
Board.

Moreover  Art 10.2 of the Constitution refers to precedent applied during
an AFRINIC election and which de facto become part of the election
guidelines.

The election process  as it stands today is the one which was applied during
the elections held during the last AGMM without any opposition.

This is what it provides:

*9.2 Paper Ballot on Election Day*

The voting conducted during the Annual General Members' Meeting is carried
out via paper ballots containing a list of candidate names and a ballot
number. Prior to the vote, all members present or participants holding a
proxy will be requested to register and validate their membership status.

   - Voters should only vote for one candidate per category/region. Each
 mark on a ballot paper represents one vote. A ballot with
more than one
 mark per category/region will be considered spoilt, and not
be counted.
 - The ballot paper should provide voters with the option to not
 vote for any candidate (a.k.a. "None of the Above").
 - This will be a secret ballot election. An inclusion of any
 personal data on the ballot paper will invalidate the vote and will be
 counted as spoilt.
 - Elections will be closed as soon as the last member or proxy
 present in the meeting room casts his/her vote. Candidates
with the highest
 number of votes in each category will be declared winners.
 - In the event of a tie for an open position, voting for that
 position will be repeated (Only by paper ballot) the same day
until there
 is a winner.
 - All open positions shall be subject to an election process even
 if there is only one candidate. In that event, if the option
[none of the
 above] got more votes than the only candidate, then the seat shall be
 considered vacant and the Board will be requested to apply
 provisions of the Bylaws to temporarily fill the vacant seat

The last amendment of the election guidelines introduced the voting option
“ None of the Above”. –(Vide second bullet point above.)Those voters who
have cast their votes for “ None of the Above” have done so in compliance
with the prevailing  constitution  and these are thus valid votes. Every
voter was aware of the new option.

The election guidelines are clear as to what happens when the “ None of the
Above” option has a majority.- (Vide last bullet point above.)

The election guidelines must be read as a whole and all the provisions read
together.

Legal Counsel –AFRINIC

17.05.2018
oubakar Barry wrote:

Hello Board and Legal Counsel,

Good that Omo spotted this.

It’s a matter of applying the board election process adopted by the board
according to section 13.2 of the bylaws.

https://afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process describes
the process and section 9 spells out how to interpret the results in the
case there are more than one candidate and in the case there is only one
candidate. These two cases are addressed separately and differently.

It’s important to hear from the Board and the Legal Counsel, as the
elections can be challenged.

Please advise.

Regards.

Boubakar

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Omo Oaiya  wrote:

> Greetings All,
>
> I am looking at the BoD election process and it seems to me that the
> recent e-mail from the Board Chair seeking nominations for vacant seats
> should not be extended to Western Africa.
>
> The particular clause I am referring to is in 9.2 -
> https://afrinic.net/en/community/elections/bod-election/process
>
>
>-
>Elections will be closed as soon as the last member or proxy present
>in the meeting room 

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] How good was Afrinic-27 ?

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

+1 Arnaud
I made similar comments during the open mic as well. I think AfriNIC
meetings should hold in Nigeria more often. 

It was a wonderful experience for me. Kudos to the organisers, sponsors,
AfriNIC Team and the entire community.

Cheers

On Dec 2, 2017 10:40 PM, "Arnaud AMELINA"  wrote:

> Hi Community,
>
> As a frequent afrinic meetings participant, I found AFRINIC27 to be one
> the most productive meetings of the recent years.  Good presentations,
> cordiale and respectful interactions with  focus  on issues in meeting
> rooms and aside.
>
> I congrats the community, AfriNIC staff, CEO and the Board and hope to see
> more of such meetings...
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [Community-Discuss] Enquiries/clarification

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

Dear Andrew,
While I am not speaking for or on behalf of the Board, I think your
assertion and position on this matter is rather too harsh and suspicious.

You piled a heap of questions for the Board members forgetting they also
have lives outside AFRINIC. The chairman reliably informed you of how he
has been moving around for sponsorship to host the next meeting. I find it
absurd that all of a sudden you want a lot of questions answered, you want
complete transparency, you want undivided attention and commitment from
Board members, asking for this and that from a board you were actually part
of less than 6 months ago? A board you narrowly missed being re-elected
into?

*For all the good your intention is worth*, I think you should change your
approach to this fact-finding course of yours else someone like me begin to
think you are only out to witch-hunt the Board. This can't just be mere
coincidence please.

My concern is that why didn't you attempt to seek all these clarifications
when you were part of the Board?

Now you are comparing our Board members to politicians? I find this
derogatory IMHO and I think your actions if not checked may spell doom for
this community.

Cheers

On Oct 9, 2017 5:34 AM, "Andrew Alston" 
wrote:

> Unfortunately – it seems we are having in an era of silence these days
> from our elected representatives – and when responses do come – they are
> extremely delayed.
>
>
>
> I really am curious to see the amount of money spent on travel (in
> particular board travel) in the next release of the financials – because
> I’m interested if there is so little time to answer the community because
> the board members are busy flying around to conferences that we never seen
> any feedback or reports from.
>
>
>
> I asked on this list before if the board would consent to providing a
> community report for each board trip taken and paid for with our money –
> that query – never got answered either – and I’m not holding my breath.
>
>
>
> I guess we just have to wait till next year to roll around and speak with
> the ballot – maybe that voice will get heard – though I suspect that the
> entire board will suddenly become massively active right before the
> election and we’ll get pretty prompt responses as people start looking for
> votes… same thing you see with politicians who disappear right after
> elections until the time they need your votes again….
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Hello Community, hope this meets everyone well. I had written a mail on
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> You all seem to overlook as if nothing. It is well. I believe you all have
> conscience..
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> Firstly, thank you for agreeing to the investigation - we will await
> regular progress reports.
>
> Secondly - to say that the board was unware of the fact that I was
> referring to competitions issues - is disingenuous in my view.
>
> I point to an email on the 12/07/2017 sent to the RPD list - which clearly
> and demonstrably makes reference to the competitions act - and to which I
> got replies.
>
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Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

Hi All,
+1 to all shared views above. Will only add that when bringing Government
officials, please invite "politicians" with sound ICT background knowledge
who know or have an idea of what we are talking about. Most ministers of
ICT are not politician​s and vice versa. The discussion should be centered
on/around the major players.

Tim

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Kris Seeburn  wrote:

> Hi Ish,
>
> In this particular situation it is not the technology people who are
> really concerned directly. That i why i proposed those people as they need
> to understand the real impact. The conditions whereby having technies only
> is not going to help; The discussion with AFGWG (African Government Working
> Group) these mainly come down to Regulators. This subject of shutdown has
> more direct implication to the ministers themselves. Whe they really
> understand the impact that they have on there country, they would start
> seeing the real issue.
>
> When we go back to ITU for example the representatives of the countries at
> ITU is the minister hie’her advisors and the regulator. As much as we want
> to see more techies they are not the deciders to shut down the internet.
> They already know how to execute and shut down.
>
> Thats why i proposed to put these people on board. If they can go to an
> ITU general assembly they should see the importance of there relative
> actions. The government approach is important and even more at this point
> because they are the every ones who take the decisions. in egypt the staff
> were held at gun point to turn off the internet connectivity. In mauritius
> we know it was again the minister via the PMO who requested to take down
> Face Book. Without the press we ma have been at a stall mate.
>
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 8:18 PM, Ish Sookun  wrote:
>
> Hi Kris,
>
> On 04/13/2017 06:53 PM, Kris Seeburn wrote:
>
> May be interesting to have the ICT ministers or information ministers as
> well. The director generals also act on instructions but both are as
> important in such maters that we should envisage at our best to get them
> on board and listen in and participate or at least the senior advisors
> to the minister of ICT.  Just thought as they are key to anything that
> happens.
>
>
> I see Alan has mentioned that the meeting is happening in Kenya. If that
> were in a local context, i.e Mauritius, I would be a little skeptical to
> have the TCI Minister or "senior advisors" involved.
>
> Advisors or officers close to ministers are mostly known to be yes-man,
> while the ministers themselves have most of the time little experience
> in the field of technology, communication or yet about innovation. The
> post of advisor is often given as "gift" to political agents who might
> not necessarily have any interest beyond their own political advancement
> (instead of technology advancement).
>
> It might produce better results to have people who are technology
> influencers and who understand & can also disseminate the information in
> the right way. Digital freedom activists are to be considered as well.
> NGOs involved in the promotion of technology for social impact are good
> candidates.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Council of Elders

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

+1 Mark. This clarification was indeed necessary. ​

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Mark Elkins  wrote:

> Badru stopped being the Chair of AFRINIC at the last Mauritius meeting.
>
> Badru left the Board over a year ago in Tunisia. He resigned after the
> Board had an impromptu meeting on stage during the meeting.
> I believe that one can guess he was asked to resign by the Board.
>
> There were a number of ugly words exchanged at that meeting and if you
> were present at that meeting, I believe that you would have got the idea
> that there was bad blood between various parties.
>
> I was on the Board at that time. Personally, I would not have agreed to
> having Badru in the honourably position of being a community elder (as
> such, CoE).
>
> Any Board Member who steps down and who causes such disarray and
> hostility should expect to be kept at a distance. Please, I'm not trying
> to pick on Badru, but on the situation and actions at the time. It would
> not be rational to then honour such a past Chairperson with a seat on
> the CoE.
>
> On 13/07/2016 09:40, Owen DeLong wrote:
> >
> >> On Jul 12, 2016, at 22:01 , Omo Oaiya  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12 July 2016 at 21:03, Mike Silber  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Nishal +1
> >>
> >> Maybe a hypothetical if I may: what if a former Chairperson were
> >> to pass, or to be unable or unwilling to serve on the CoE, or even
> >> if they were to be convicted of an offense after their term that
> >> would disqualify them as a director.
> >>
> >> I don't think the community would want an unable or unwilling CoE
> >> member, or a convict.
> >>
> >>
> >> No community would.  We want them because of their experience as
> >> former Chairs
> >> I read the 'open to' in 16.1 as former chairs are willing to consider
> >> or be considered.  So some might decline or be denied
> >>
> >>
> >> So I cannot see how automatic appointment could be implied.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is what bothers me.  We don't yet have 6 past chairs and we are
> >> discriminating without reason on appointment to CoE? How does this
> >> improve trust?
> >
> > Omo,
> >
> > You are claiming facts not in evidence.
> >
> > The board chair clearly stated that the matter has not yet been
> > considered by the board. This is not discrimination, it is a lack of
> > action in either direction, positive or negative. He further noted that
> > it will be on the agenda at the next board meeting.
> >
> > Claiming discrimination when there clearly isn’t any such thing going on
> > is nonsensical.
> >
> > Finally, appointment to the CoE is at the discretion of the board. They
> > are free to invite a past chair or not entirely at their discretion and
> > nothing requires them to explain their reasoning to the community. If
> > you don’t like their decision, vote for different board members next
> > time there is an election.
> >
> > Personally, given the manner in which Badru stepped down from the
> > chairmanship and the subsequent incidents leading to his departure from
> > the board, I would say that the board has more than ample reason if they
> > choose not to invite him to join the CoE. However, I respect that this
> > is a decision entirely at their discretion and I will accept whatever
> > decision they make.
> >
> > The purpose of the CoE is to advise the board. The board must be free to
> > choose who it does or does not want to receive advice from.
> >
> > Owen
> >
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Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Accountability assessment

[Timothy Ola Akinfenwa]

+1 Alain. God bless you sir!

Timothy
On 7 Jul 2016 10:29 p.m., "ALAIN AINA"  wrote:

> Hello SM
>
>  I beg. Lets stop this discussion about to whom AFRINIC belong to, playing
> with “members" and "non members", invoking RSA and AFRINIC Ltd, etc….
> We have come a long way to this community driven organisation which role
> is to serve the AFRICAN Internet  community by distributing numbers
> ressources and beyond.  Like other RIRs, the AfriNIC organisational
> structure has been set to encourage a bottom-up self governance management
> model in which community in general, members, the Board of Directors
> elected by these members have a  role and a say.
>
> I would invite all of us to read :
>
> - The 1997  AFRINIC proposal
> https://www.isoc.org/inet97/ans97/afrinic.htm
>
> - The IANA report on AFRNIC accreditation
> https://www.iana.org/reports/2005/afrinic-report-08apr2005.html
>
> - AFRINIC vision, mission, cores values and success factors
> http://www.afrinic.net/en/about/origins
>
> I  would also suggest that we plan a session on AFRINIC History during
> AFRINC-25  like we had AF* history  at AIS2016
>
> Hope this helps
>
> —Alain
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 2016, at 3:55 PM, sm+afri...@elandsys.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi Noah, Badru,
> > At 09:22 06-07-2016, Noah wrote:
> >> Who elects the directors, do they elect themselves?
> >
> > The directors of Afrinic Ltd are elected by the members of Afrinic Ltd.
> >
> >> Whose interests do they serve?
> >
> > One of the powers of the directors of the company is to "determine the
> guidelines for the allocation of address space to members in line with the
> member driven Policy Development Process".
> >
> >> What where they before they became directors?
> >
> > The directors were members of the company.
> >
> >> Are they now so special now all over sudden and cant consult the same
> community "resource members + non" who elected them? [1]
> >
> > The "non" (in the above) does not elect the directors.  Section 6(d) of
> the RSA states that the members of Afrinic Ltd will follow the policies
> adopted by this group and follow global policies.  Membership fees, for
> example, are not set through policies which are adopted by this group.
> Membership fees is usually a matter discussed between the members who pay
> those fees.  A member usually does not vote for a director if the member is
> dissatisfied with the decisions taken by the director.  That is the
> accountability angle.
> >
> > At 00:07 07-07-2016, Badru Ntege wrote:
> >> The company belongs to the community at large under the custody of
> current members who then elect a board.   It should never be seen as a top
> down issue.
> >
> > If the company belongs to this group there would be a document about
> that.  The only "agreement" up to now is the one where the company agrees
> that its members will follow the policies adopted by this group.  There is
> a discussion about that in the mailing list archives.
> >
> > Regards,
> > S. Moonesamy
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