Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-09-25 Thread Ralph F De Witt

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On Wednesday 25 September 2002 12:13 pm, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
 Hi Warly,

 On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Warly wrote:
  Please comment on what you liked, disliked in the 9.0 building, testing
  and problem reporting process.

 From a translator perspective, I'd like to comment that the continuing
 string changes in the Mandrake tools sometimes are driving me up the
 wall. Up until this weekend there have been string changes without the
 translators even being notified in any way (I wonder how many developers
 know about the cooker-i18n list?). This is making the Mandrake
 experience a less pleasant to non-English users because they get
 confronted with mixed english/own language interfaces.

 To make a long story short: next time I would like to see a string freeze
 that can only be broken in special cases and with notification of
 translators in due time. The way the Gnome Translation Project works, can
 be used as a model.

 regards,
Hi all:
First of I would like to say that all at Mandarke and volunteers and 
developers did very well with 9.0. It is going to be a great release. I am 
pleased that the beta cycle was a little longer than 8.2. This has certainly 
helped to eleminate most bugs.
I have no comments as to the building and testing phases.
But I have comments on the reporting phase. I liked that there were three ways 
to report bugs, but I think that needs to be limited to one way. I really got 
mad when reporting 3 or 4 bugs during the RC3 portion via MandrakeExpert when 
I was told to get a Bugzilla account and report them myself, as the expert 
told me he ws told not to do any more bug reports because they were all 
usless. This really angered me. I agree that there are a lot of bad bug 
reports with a open beta like we do. I have probbly done a few my self. But I 
liked the MandrakeExpert way of doing it because I had someone more 
knowledgeable than me to look at it and say, hey how about doing this and 
this and sending the info. Or send the contains of such and such file. This 
allowed me to turn a bad bug report into a useful one, and one that was taken 
away from me I got very angry.
I think bug reporting should have only one way to report, and that it should 
be a two step process. One submitte a report, get feed back as to other 
things that are need, when useful, it is submitted. I think that some sort of 
feed back needs to be given to the person reporting the bug when it is 
actioned and completed.
Any way just my $.02, I hope it helps make the next beta testing go round 
smoother.
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[Cooker] MDK 9.0 RC3 Problems

2002-09-21 Thread Ralph F De Witt

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I just did a fresh install of MDK 9.0 and have observered the following 
problems:
1. For the first install I selected a expert install, selected auto partition 
allocation with /usr, selected the software catagories to install, clicked 
throught the individual package selections, and the install hung with about 1 
min remaining. Had to use reset to get out of install, I then tryed a new 
install this time selecting regular and it completed with the exception of 
network setup.
2. Network setup selecting both lan or the cable setup is now broken. The set 
up demands the optional gateway ip address. I use a lan setup to access the 
internet using dhcp and do not have one. The same problem existis with the 
network set up using MCC.
3. Mouse setup is now broken. With the installation it appears to work, but 
did not get the scroll wheel working. In MCC Hardware, I can select the mouse 
type, but then does not all the normal run the wheel, move the mouse. It goes 
from select mouse type to back to the menu. The result is menus pop up all 
over the screen.
4. The eject command is not working properly for my cd. I right click on the 
menu and left select the eject command and the tray opens for a few seconds 
then closes, much to swiftly to get the cd out. My work a round was to close 
all windows. Select removable media again and then select eject agian this 
time it worked.
Let's hope that these can be corrected before final. They all worked in the 
previous RC. All and all I find 9.0 to be shaping up to be a fine release. 
But perhaps a bit rushed, perhaps a 4th RC is in order.
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Re: [Cooker] RPMDRAKE

2002-09-03 Thread Ralph F De Witt

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On Tuesday 03 September 2002 02:55 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 03:31, gud wrote:
   How about Package(s) installed OK (or successfully instead of OK)?
   --
   -- Igor
 
  Yeah that sounds a lot better, no errors suggests that errors were
  expected.

 We're still not addressing the underlying issue that, if I understand
 the earlier messages right, you can select a bunch of packages in
 rpmdrake, hit install, and get back a dialog that says Packages
 installed successfully (or whatever) - even though no packages have
 been installed. I've thought about this a bit, but frankly I don't see a
 way to have one dialog box which deals both with this situation and with
 a situation where the installation really *did* go as planned. As I see
 it, the only solution is to either stop the first situation happening at
 all, or have rpmdrake detect it somehow and return a proper error
 message.
Adamw
For what it worth I agree. I started a download and one rpm was not able to be 
fetched, returned a error message stating sign on name, password was bad (I 
think the server was just maxed out on users) to me this was a inaccurate 
dialouge box. Then I selecected not to continue with out this rpm, and the 
download stops and I get the stupid all successfully installed dialouge, when 
I no nothing was installed because I was watching progress. I hope this can 
be fixed.
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Ralph.
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