Re: [Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
[f.faber-pro] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cleanly apply your patch on -12mdk and it's working fine. I see your second attachement, could you had [ALSA] before the module name if it's alsa, and [OSS] on the contrary ? Even if with the name you know it ( alsa modules start with snd- ), the problem is that newbie may not know it. So this way it is clearly show. why not? but anyway the newbie won't know what is oss or what is alsa (even if there's an help window)
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-09 13:33 --- I cleanly apply your patch on -12mdk and it's working fine. I see your second attachement, could you had [ALSA] before the module name if it's alsa, and [OSS] on the contrary ? Even if with the name you know it ( alsa modules start with snd- ), the problem is that newbie may not know it. So this way it is clearly show. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-09 15:41 --- On forum when a user comes and says that his sound card xyz doesn't work, people tend to say : use alsa drivers, and even worse : go to alsa-project.com and install alsa whereas alsa is bulked with standard mdk kernel. Showing wich driver is the alsa one will allow to solve the first issue. The second will be solve with the time. On top of that, more and more people will just say to use alsa driver to configure their sound card to have feature xy. By showing in draksound which one is the alsa, which one is the OSS and which one is currently used, the user can more easily make a decision, or not do mistake as graaping alsa source and installed them as he think that alsa is not on his system. see theses thread : - http://forum.hardware.fr/forum2.php3?post=27764cat=11config=interface=cache=sondage=owntopic=p=9trash=subcat= http://forum.hardware.fr/forum2.php3?post=27678cat=11config=interface=cache=sondage=owntopic=p=23trash=subcat= -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
[f.faber-pro] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 16:21 --- Created an attachment (id=844) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=844action=view) screenshot showing what draksound select list should look like screenshot showing what draksound select list should look like. The second one is less confusing. Hint : as most of the time you have only 2 module for a sound card, most of the time you end up with a list with ... one item. Both/all drivers should really be list/show specifying which one is ALSA ( check if module begind with snd- ), wich one is OSS ( if you find the alsa one, the others are the OSS one ), with the current module selected by default and precise which one is recommended ( just add recommended at the end as in printerdrake ) ok, the bug is that the interactive layer use a Combo instead of an OptionMenu if more than 25% of strings are larger than 60 characters. rationale: OptionMenus do not have an horizontal scroll-bar. This can cause havoc for long strings (eg: diskdrake Create dialog box in expert mode)
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
[f.faber-pro] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why do you have more than 60 characters just to list modules ? The text after is ... useless i added the module description so that the end user is able to know that eg snd-intel8x0 does support nforce (or ali or sis ...) instead of being hangry about us: they're so dumb that they put driver for intel cards for my non intel sound card :-( If userdrake select these module for my sound card I expect they are the right ones. being user-friendly (which draksoun really is not :-( ) means being understandable. if i've a driver named with manufacturer A name and i do know i've a card made by manufacturer B, why do should i trust mandrake if there's nothing else to prove this is right? just look at the number of bugs for audigy vs sb live Now concerning the description, I will put it on a tooltip associated with the entry of the OptionMenu using a tooltip may be quite a lot better indeed.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
[f.faber-pro] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 18:35 ---
I test your patch ( patch -b sound.pm /tmp/snd.diff ) now that's fine.
3 notes :
- during patching : Hunk #1 FAILED at 171
- maybe related : in tooltip I just see modulename: and no description
- now should list both module with the name followed by [ALSA] or
[OSS], and list actual module first ( i.e selected )
yes empty tooltip is related to first hunk faillure. just add my
%des = modules::category2modules_and_description('multimedia/sound');
in the proper place (just after push @$alternative, $driver;)
current module is already preselected. which make me understand your
problem: i made a patch againts current cvs that already has more
fixes than 11mdk.
12mdk should appear soon and you'll be able to cleanly apply the
patch.
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 16:16 --- what do you see ? see the second screenshot showing where is the difference -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 16:21 --- Created an attachment (id=844) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=844action=view) screenshot showing what draksound select list should look like screenshot showing what draksound select list should look like. The second one is less confusing. Hint : as most of the time you have only 2 module for a sound card, most of the time you end up with a list with ... one item. Both/all drivers should really be list/show specifying which one is ALSA ( check if module begind with snd- ), wich one is OSS ( if you find the alsa one, the others are the OSS one ), with the current module selected by default and precise which one is recommended ( just add recommended at the end as in printerdrake ) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 17:10 --- why do you have more than 60 characters just to list modules ? The text after is ... useless If userdrake select these module for my sound card I expect they are the right ones. I just want to see the name and if it's ALSA/OSS ( on forum you will say pick modules foo for your sound card or try with alsa driver ). Now concerning the description, I will put it on a tooltip associated with the entry of the OptionMenu -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 18:07 --- Created an attachment (id=846) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=846action=view) fix #5403 - make sure to use OptionMenu instead of Combo boxes - move help into a tooltip -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 18:35 --- I test your patch ( patch -b sound.pm /tmp/snd.diff ) now that's fine. 3 notes : - during patching : Hunk #1 FAILED at 171 - maybe related : in tooltip I just see modulename: and no description - now should list both module with the name followed by [ALSA] or [OSS], and list actual module first ( i.e selected ) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-16-09 19:02 --- Created an attachment (id=847) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=847action=view) fix #5403 try overwriting /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/sound.pm with the following file or apply the previous patch on top of drakxtools-9.2-12mdk once it came up to live on mirrors -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-09 16:06 --- concerning combo/select menu I tend to disagree. see screenshot -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-09 16:08 --- Created an attachment (id=795) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=795action=view) screenshot showing driver selection menu screenshot showing driver selection menu. It should better be like the one you see in drakbackup/drakboot/... -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-09 16:15 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]$ rpm -q drakxtools drakxtools-9.2-10mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |NEEDINFO --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-09 17:00 --- uh? here what *i* see: -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-09 20:19 --- Read the text at the top, it say what is the current driver, i it is ALSA/OSS. But it's true that the selection menu should show both drivers with current driver selected which one is recommended and before if it is ALSA or OSS : [ALSA] snd-intel8x0 ( recommended ) [OSS] i810_audio -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
[Cooker] [Bug 5403] [harddrake] [9.2 RC 1] Confusing GUI in harddrake2's Sound Configuration tool
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5403 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-09 00:18 --- *** Bug 5495 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Problem: confusing GUI. For my hardware (G732 notebook, see greenhat.blogspot.com), harddrake shows the module as snd-intel8x0. When I 'Run config tool' (Sound configuration = DrakSound?) the 'Driver:' dropdown list has no pre-selected value, showing the first listed driver (= ali5455 - not, in my case, the active driver, which is i810_audio). I was confused by this, and wasted hours trying to re-configure the sound system because I thought that the active driver was the one shown in the dropdown field! I expected the current/active driver to be pre-selected, and acted accordingly (wrongly).
