Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, stephen wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
> 
> > Let me clarify i guess. I wouldn't have less than 128megs. 386 or 1gig of
> > real ram. At current prices 254 megs of hd cost like 2$us. I personaly
> > can't recommend any less than 128 with todays uses.
> > 
> not unfortunately in the UK, 110 for 15Gb
> or is my maths screwed
> 
> srp

Oh yeah i hate that (and always forget), so whats the current conversion
rate. The prices really are generaly comparable unless of course you live
in one of those places where satalite telephones are a must.

anyways, so like if the difference is greater than  1 to 1.5
shipping maybe cheeper than buying localy and paying taxes.



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread stephen

On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

> Let me clarify i guess. I wouldn't have less than 128megs. 386 or 1gig of
> real ram. At current prices 254 megs of hd cost like 2$us. I personaly
> can't recommend any less than 128 with todays uses.
> 
not unfortunately in the UK, 110 for 15Gb
or is my maths screwed

srp




Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Sanjay Sheth wrote:
> At 02:06 PM 1/2/00 , you wrote:
> >On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Sanjay Sheth wrote:
> >
> > > At 10:03 AM 1/2/00 , you wrote:
> > > >I'm new but... did you delete the partitions allready there first
> > > >because when i installed i could change almost at will..strange about
> > > >the 245m swap file though
> > >
> > > How about adjusting the code to set the max. auto-selected swap file size
> > > to amount of physical
> > > memory present (fairly good thumbrule i believe).
> >
> >No good for me, i need half a gig to build some things.
> >
> >32 + 32 = way not enough :)
> 
> Notice I said auto-selected (for newbies) and  you can always adjust it 
> yourself anyways
> using diskDrake after it has"auto-allocated". I was just referring to the 
> cases where the
> swap file ends up being 200+ MB (which at least for most "normal" users is 
> quite a bit
> excessive and a big waste of space).

Let me clarify i guess. I wouldn't have less than 128megs. 386 or 1gig of
real ram. At current prices 254 megs of hd cost like 2$us. I personaly
can't recommend any less than 128 with todays uses.



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Pixel

Sanjay Sheth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At 10:03 AM 1/2/00 , you wrote:
> >I'm new but... did you delete the partitions allready there first
> >because when i installed i could change almost at will..strange about
> >the 245m swap file though
> 
> How about adjusting the code to set the max. auto-selected swap file size 
> to amount of physical
> memory present (fairly good thumbrule i believe).

as for me i've never understood this rule!



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Sanjay Sheth

At 02:06 PM 1/2/00 , you wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Sanjay Sheth wrote:
>
> > At 10:03 AM 1/2/00 , you wrote:
> > >I'm new but... did you delete the partitions allready there first
> > >because when i installed i could change almost at will..strange about
> > >the 245m swap file though
> >
> > How about adjusting the code to set the max. auto-selected swap file size
> > to amount of physical
> > memory present (fairly good thumbrule i believe).
>
>No good for me, i need half a gig to build some things.
>
>32 + 32 = way not enough :)

Notice I said auto-selected (for newbies) and  you can always adjust it 
yourself anyways
using diskDrake after it has"auto-allocated". I was just referring to the 
cases where the
swap file ends up being 200+ MB (which at least for most "normal" users is 
quite a bit
excessive and a big waste of space).


>--
>MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> --Axalon

---
Sanjay Sheth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Sanjay Sheth wrote:

> At 10:03 AM 1/2/00 , you wrote:
> >I'm new but... did you delete the partitions allready there first
> >because when i installed i could change almost at will..strange about
> >the 245m swap file though
> 
> How about adjusting the code to set the max. auto-selected swap file size 
> to amount of physical
> memory present (fairly good thumbrule i believe).

No good for me, i need half a gig to build some things. 

32 + 32 = way not enough :)

-- 
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Sanjay Sheth

At 10:03 AM 1/2/00 , you wrote:
>I'm new but... did you delete the partitions allready there first
>because when i installed i could change almost at will..strange about
>the 245m swap file though

How about adjusting the code to set the max. auto-selected swap file size 
to amount of physical
memory present (fairly good thumbrule i believe).

---
Sanjay Sheth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Wayne Gabler

I'm new but... did you delete the partitions allready there first
because when i installed i could change almost at will..strange about
the 245m swap file though

Heath Doane wrote:
> 
> At 04:15 AM 1/2/00 +0100, you wrote:
> >Heath Doane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>   1) When Installing, if it detects existing Linux partitions, it would not
> >> let me create new/more.
> >
> >diskdrake or lilo ?
> 
> That would be in Diskdrake.  I chose the "Custom" then "Normal" install
> options when starting the install, as well.
> 
> >>   3) "Normal" user is unable to run X successfully.   Root has no problems,
> >> but when a regular user starts X, the server loads, the screen goes blue
> >> with an "X" cursor, but the KDE desktop never appears (some drive activity,
> >> but no desktop)
> >
> >what security level, what your .xsession-errors say ?
> >
> 
> Soon as I boot the Linux PC, I'll let you know..  :)
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>  Heath
> 
> "For a moment, nothing happened.  Then, after a second or so,
> nothing continued to happen."
> --Douglas Adams



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread root

Pixel wrote:
> 
> Heath Doane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > At 04:15 AM 1/2/00 +0100, you wrote:
> > >Heath Doane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >>   1) When Installing, if it detects existing Linux partitions, it would not
> > >> let me create new/more.
> > >
> > >diskdrake or lilo ?
> >
> > That would be in Diskdrake.  I chose the "Custom" then "Normal" install
> > options when starting the install, as well.
> >
> 
> you must have system commander. give readonly=0 at install boot prompt
> (this is changed in last version)

Actually, yes, I do have SysCommander.   I'll try that on the next
install.

Thx

  Heath



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Pixel

Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > 
> > > I had this problem when I installed a fresh oxygen while retaining my previous
> > > /home partition.  I created new users using the same name as the previous users
> > > (thus reusing the old user's dirs), but the install gave them new uid's.  So
> > > when I tried to log in to my old account, I had no permissions to write to my
> > > account, which I believe is necessary when starting kde.  
> > 
> > this is quite strange. DrakX has special code to handle this situation. And as
> > far as i just retested, it works!
> 
> silly me, it doesn't works as it should, fixing it grmrmrmbbll...

yeah, a stupid line was not where it should... fixed!



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Pixel

Heath Doane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At 04:15 AM 1/2/00 +0100, you wrote:
> >Heath Doane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>   1) When Installing, if it detects existing Linux partitions, it would not
> >> let me create new/more.
> >
> >diskdrake or lilo ?
> 
> That would be in Diskdrake.  I chose the "Custom" then "Normal" install
> options when starting the install, as well.
> 

you must have system commander. give readonly=0 at install boot prompt
(this is changed in last version)



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Heath Doane

At 04:15 AM 1/2/00 +0100, you wrote:
>Heath Doane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>   1) When Installing, if it detects existing Linux partitions, it would not
>> let me create new/more.
>
>diskdrake or lilo ?

That would be in Diskdrake.  I chose the "Custom" then "Normal" install
options when starting the install, as well.

>>   3) "Normal" user is unable to run X successfully.   Root has no problems,
>> but when a regular user starts X, the server loads, the screen goes blue
>> with an "X" cursor, but the KDE desktop never appears (some drive activity,
>> but no desktop)
>
>what security level, what your .xsession-errors say ?
>

Soon as I boot the Linux PC, I'll let you know..  :)

  Thanks

 Heath

"For a moment, nothing happened.  Then, after a second or so, 
nothing continued to happen."
--Douglas Adams



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Pixel

Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Scott Haug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 09:59:09PM -0500, Heath Doane wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >   3) "Normal" user is unable to run X successfully.   Root has no problems,
> > > but when a regular user starts X, the server loads, the screen goes blue
> > > with an "X" cursor, but the KDE desktop never appears (some drive activity,
> > > but no desktop)
> > > 
> > 
> > I had this problem when I installed a fresh oxygen while retaining my previous
> > /home partition.  I created new users using the same name as the previous users
> > (thus reusing the old user's dirs), but the install gave them new uid's.  So
> > when I tried to log in to my old account, I had no permissions to write to my
> > account, which I believe is necessary when starting kde.  
> 
> this is quite strange. DrakX has special code to handle this situation. And as
> far as i just retested, it works!

silly me, it doesn't works as it should, fixing it grmrmrmbbll...



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-02 Thread Pixel

Scott Haug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 09:59:09PM -0500, Heath Doane wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >   3) "Normal" user is unable to run X successfully.   Root has no problems,
> > but when a regular user starts X, the server loads, the screen goes blue
> > with an "X" cursor, but the KDE desktop never appears (some drive activity,
> > but no desktop)
> > 
> 
> I had this problem when I installed a fresh oxygen while retaining my previous
> /home partition.  I created new users using the same name as the previous users
> (thus reusing the old user's dirs), but the install gave them new uid's.  So
> when I tried to log in to my old account, I had no permissions to write to my
> account, which I believe is necessary when starting kde.  

this is quite strange. DrakX has special code to handle this situation. And as
far as i just retested, it works!



Re: [Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-01 Thread Scott Haug

On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 09:59:09PM -0500, Heath Doane wrote:
> Greetings,
>   3) "Normal" user is unable to run X successfully.   Root has no problems,
> but when a regular user starts X, the server loads, the screen goes blue
> with an "X" cursor, but the KDE desktop never appears (some drive activity,
> but no desktop)
> 

I had this problem when I installed a fresh oxygen while retaining my previous
/home partition.  I created new users using the same name as the previous users
(thus reusing the old user's dirs), but the install gave them new uid's.  So
when I tried to log in to my old account, I had no permissions to write to my
account, which I believe is necessary when starting kde.  You may want to check
if your normal user account is owned by the user you think is supposed to own
it.  If this isn't the problem, I don't know what it might be.  But because
root can log in, I wouldn't be surprised if its permissions-related.

-Scott



[Cooker] New Install of Oxygen - Few things....

2000-01-01 Thread Heath Doane

Greetings,

  I just installed Oxygen 7.2 (iso dated 99.12.24) on my PC, as a fresh
install.  Noticed the following point:  (Sorry if they've been covered
before, I've just joined the listserv)

  1) When Installing, if it detects existing Linux partitions, it would not
let me create new/more.

  2) LinuxConf - While adding a user, if "Help" is brought up, the screen
is corrupted (goes solid blue) when help is closed.  

  3) "Normal" user is unable to run X successfully.   Root has no problems,
but when a regular user starts X, the server loads, the screen goes blue
with an "X" cursor, but the KDE desktop never appears (some drive activity,
but no desktop)


  I can provide more details (i.e. System specs, etc) if helpful.

 Thanks

 Heath


"For a moment, nothing happened.  Then, after a second or so, 
nothing continued to happen."
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