[Cooker] sound problem in rc2
The sound init script is unable to initialize the volume settings of my sound card. This is the output of `service sound restart` : alsactl: save_state:1061: No soundcards found... Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state_tmp: No such file or directory. Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state_tmp: No such file or directory. Setting mixer settings alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found... However, using kmix, I can enable the master volume, and turn it up. (Though even with 'save settings as default' they are not remembered -- not sure how kmix interacts with alsa's or device settings). These are the sound modules that are loaded (`lsmod | grep snd`): snd-pcm-oss43588 0 snd-mixer-oss 14328 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-emu10k172420 1 snd-rawmidi18464 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-pcm83456 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-emu10k1] snd-timer 19556 0 [snd-pcm] snd-page-alloc 9428 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm] snd-seq-device 5788 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi] snd-hwdep 6304 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-util-mem3296 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-ac97-codec 44856 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd43588 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi snd-pcm snd-timer snd-seq-device snd-hwdep snd-util-mem snd-ac97-codec] soundcore 6948 0 [snd]
Re: [Cooker] sound problem in rc2
Guy McArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The sound init script is unable to initialize the volume settings of my sound card. This is the output of `service sound restart` : alsactl: save_state:1061: No soundcards found... Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state_tmp: No such file or directory. Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state_tmp: No such file or directory. Setting mixer settings alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found... However, using kmix, I can enable the master volume, and turn it up. (Though even with 'save settings as default' they are not remembered -- not sure how kmix interacts with alsa's or device settings). this is already fixed since early september in initscripts-7.06-23mdk: mandrake_firstime, sound/sound.init: move alsa unmute code from mandrakefirst time to sound service. rationale: mandrake first time is called way too early, before the sound module is loaded. so the proper place really is while initialization sound. now oss alsa are defaulted to the same place. oss default to 80% and alsa to 66%.
[Cooker] Sound is back- thanks!
Hi Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030221 16:33 I have got sound back, and am now drinking a 1999 Unicorn Abbots Cabardès to selebrate. It's really full of taste, the Mandrake way. Thanks for all the work guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.1 kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.10mdk-1-1mdk
Re: [Cooker] Sound is back- thanks!
fredagen den 21 februari 2003 19.30 skrev guran: Hi Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030221 16:33 I have got sound back, and am now drinking a 1999 Unicorn Abbots Cabardès to selebrate. It's really full of taste, the Mandrake way. Thanks for all the work Cool!, but where's your funny sig? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
Re: [Cooker] Sound is back- thanks!
On Friday 21 February 2003 19.38, Oden Eriksson wrote: fredagen den 21 februari 2003 19.30 skrev guran: Hi Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030221 16:33 I have got sound back, and am now drinking a 1999 Unicorn Abbots Cabardès to selebrate. It's really full of taste, the Mandrake way. Thanks for all the work Cool!, but where's your funny sig? Thanks, I was afraid to be offending on this list again. It is an answer to the two students from Alexandria, Egypt that talked to my doughter and defined that science was like Islam, just a religion. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.1 kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is true can the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Sound kernel 2.4.21pre4-?
Sorry, I've forgot to explicitely mention that it works fine when I boot with 2.4.19-24 kernel Le Mardi 18 Février 2003 14:19, PAOLACCI Sebastien a écrit : Hi all, I've lost soud in current kernel version (2.4.21pre4-6). I've tested all pre4 kernels with the same (no) result. I only have one sound card (Intel 810, snd-intel8x0 module) and I'd like to know, before reporting a bug, if I'm the only person with this problem (which would certainly leads to the fact that the problem comes from me) or if someone else has this problem ? Thanks, Sebastien.
Re: [Cooker] Sound kernel 2.4.21pre4-?
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 13:19, PAOLACCI Sebastien wrote: Hi all, I've lost soud in current kernel version (2.4.21pre4-6). I've tested all pre4 kernels with the same (no) result. I only have one sound card (Intel 810, snd-intel8x0 module) and I'd like to know, before reporting a bug, if I'm the only person with this problem (which would certainly leads to the fact that the problem comes from me) or if someone else has this problem ? Check the mixer. I found after the last ALSA version update all my channels got reset to 0 and muted, as per the ALSA Religion's strange rituals. :). Unmute and restore them to 80% or so and I had sound again... -- adamw
[Cooker] Sound kernel 2.4.21pre4-?
Hi all, I've lost soud in current kernel version (2.4.21pre4-6). I've tested all pre4 kernels with the same (no) result. I only have one sound card (Intel 810, snd-intel8x0 module) and I'd like to know, before reporting a bug, if I'm the only person with this problem (which would certainly leads to the fact that the problem comes from me) or if someone else has this problem ? Thanks, Sebastien.
Re: [Cooker] Sound kernel 2.4.21pre4-?
Le Mardi 18 Février 2003 14:19, PAOLACCI Sebastien a écrit : Hi all, I've lost soud in current kernel version (2.4.21pre4-6). I've tested all pre4 kernels with the same (no) result. I only have one sound card (Intel 810, snd-intel8x0 module) and I'd like to know, before reporting a bug, if I'm the only person with this problem (which would certainly leads to the fact that the problem comes from me) or if someone else has this problem ? Thanks, Sebastien. alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss works perfectly here. -- Pascal Cavy - VMF __ Running 3 days, 18:29, 12 users, load average: 0.94, 0.36, 0.19 (gcc version 3.2.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.1-7mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.21pre4-6mdkenterprise
[Cooker] Sound problems
Hi Bear in mind I'm new to Linux. I seem to have screwed up my sound system in Linux. I installed some ALSA add-on for XMMS and I believe I was using OSS sound drivers (auto-selected during installation). Since then, I've had numerous problems with my sound system. I managed to get it working but XMMS just quits immediately now when I try to run it. Do you think I should do a fresh installation to put things back to normal or is there a quick fix? I know I haven't geiven much info for people to go on, but I'm not at home at the moment. Allan _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Allan Mee wrote: Hi Bear in mind I'm new to Linux. I seem to have screwed up my sound system in Linux. I installed some ALSA add-on for XMMS and I believe I was using OSS sound drivers (auto-selected during installation). Since then, I've had numerous problems with my sound system. I managed to get it working but XMMS just quits immediately now when I try to run it. Do you think I should do a fresh installation to put things back to normal or is there a quick fix? I know I haven't geiven much info for people to go on, but I'm not at home at the moment. This isn't *really* cooker material, but: $ mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms.bad $ xmms There isn't much point trying to use alsa output plugins when you're using oss drivers, so check which sound system you are using, and use the appropriate output plugin. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:10 am, Allan Mee wrote: Hi Bear in mind I'm new to Linux. I seem to have screwed up my sound system in Linux. I installed some ALSA add-on for XMMS and I believe I was using OSS sound drivers (auto-selected during installation). Since then, I've had numerous problems with my sound system. I managed to get it working but XMMS just quits immediately now when I try to run it. Do you think I should do a fresh installation to put things back to normal or is there a quick fix? I know I haven't geiven much info for people to go on, but I'm not at home at the moment. Allan _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail quick fix - rm -rf ~/.xmms - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPiQ5lRFHZPcobeHxAQJglwQAnvoTvXE83CYVYTNFylHdZpKakPT9l1gI m0RY4luoKxJZ1lMW+lz2l2qG9bU9es9R8JkcDgHrZ/PxAcz5nHWUv+HMA2D/rWIp z8lVeBwWiTAyqP5vVGwOWknYkfHm6fIyaHqtO7Ktst1qw75lJnX/W3d3lnARpQ2n 1S67BId69w8= =H2Bm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
thx :) Then just reinstall xmms - ok will do. Allan From: Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound problems Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:23:45 -0500 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:10 am, Allan Mee wrote: Hi Bear in mind I'm new to Linux. I seem to have screwed up my sound system in Linux. I installed some ALSA add-on for XMMS and I believe I was using OSS sound drivers (auto-selected during installation). Since then, I've had numerous problems with my sound system. I managed to get it working but XMMS just quits immediately now when I try to run it. Do you think I should do a fresh installation to put things back to normal or is there a quick fix? I know I haven't geiven much info for people to go on, but I'm not at home at the moment. Allan _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail quick fix - rm -rf ~/.xmms - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPiQ5lRFHZPcobeHxAQJglwQAnvoTvXE83CYVYTNFylHdZpKakPT9l1gI m0RY4luoKxJZ1lMW+lz2l2qG9bU9es9R8JkcDgHrZ/PxAcz5nHWUv+HMA2D/rWIp z8lVeBwWiTAyqP5vVGwOWknYkfHm6fIyaHqtO7Ktst1qw75lJnX/W3d3lnARpQ2n 1S67BId69w8= =H2Bm -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 11:30, Allan Mee wrote: thx :) Then just reinstall xmms - ok will do. Allan No dude, this ain't windows. You shouldn't have to reinstall anything. Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:30 am, Allan Mee wrote: thx :) Then just reinstall xmms - ok will do. Allan Nope, just run it again. All removing that dir will do is remove your user prefs for that user - the prefs that were set to use alsa. You'll be starting clean again without re-installing xmms -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc
Re: [Cooker] Sound problems
Cool! Thnx :) Allan From: Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound problems Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:33:31 -0500 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:30 am, Allan Mee wrote: thx :) Then just reinstall xmms - ok will do. Allan Nope, just run it again. All removing that dir will do is remove your user prefs for that user - the prefs that were set to use alsa. You'll be starting clean again without re-installing xmms -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 9.0: no line-in
ok. here goes. All categories are unlocked, and for each category, both channels (left right) are either on or off (ie: not left on/right off). The same is true for record source (the red dots). I'm also not including volume levels. also, it'd be nice to have an EASY way to turn off line in. If my TV card is plugged in, I ALWAYS get TV sound. even when I stop watching TV. (I suppose if everything is setup correctly, then Kmix would work for this, no?) Let me know if you need anything else. On Tuesday 05 November 2002 03:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but you forgot to tell me what you had to change to get line-in working:) Format: Category Speakers on/off Source on/off Here what I have now: Master On N/A MasterMono On N/A Head... On N/A Head..LFE1 Off N/A Head..1 On N/A Head..Center1 On N/A Tone On N/A Bass On N/A Treble On N/A 3D Control Center On N/A 3D Control Depth On N/A 3D Control Switch On N/A PCM On N/A Surround Digital On Off Surround Digital (?) On N/A Center On N/A LFE On N/A Wave On Off Wave Center On N/A Wave LFE On N/A Wave Surround On N/A Music On Off Music On N/A Line On (Line in works if the speakears are on or off) On (This must be on for line in to work.) Line Live Dr.. On Off Line Live Dr On N/A Line Live Dr..1 On Off CD On Off Mic On Off Mic Boost (+20dB) On N/A Video On Off Phone On Off IEC958 Off N/A IEC958 Coaxial On Off IEC958 Coaxial On N/A IEC958 Optical On Off IEC958 Optical On N/A IEC958 Optical Raw Off N/A IEC958 TTL On On IEC958 TTL On N/A PC Speaker Off N/A Aux On Off Capture On N/A Mix thru EMU..PCM Send Routing On N/A External Amplifier Power Down Off N/A SB Live Analog Output Jack Off N/A
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 9.0: no line-in
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, John Rebecca wrote: well, after countless hours..i finally got line-in working. :) lost ALL sound for a while there. But it's back. great And you're right, it would be nice to have this working out of the box. And alsamixergui has WAY too many settings. :) Ok, but you forgot to tell me what you had to change to get line-in working:) Danny
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 9.0: no line-in
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 03:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but you forgot to tell me what you had to change to get line-in working:) I know. :-/ i'll try and sit down tonite and try and make sense of what I have on/off/record source/level, etc., then get back to you. I really can't say what I CHANGED tho. I can only tell you how things are set now. Then you can compare that to a stock 9.0 install? --john
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 9.0: no line-in
well, after countless hours..i finally got line-in working. :) lost ALL sound for a while there. But it's back. And you're right, it would be nice to have this working out of the box. And alsamixergui has WAY too many settings. :) thanks for the help. -john On Friday 01 November 2002 02:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, John Rebecca wrote: Kmixer shows the volume up and non-muted. I've tried both ALSA and OSS to no avail. All other sound works just fine. I do not know much about recording, as I never use it. But for a start: do not use kmixer, use alsamixergui, and spend a few hours to try all ridiculously named mixer settings. Please report if you get it working. I hope to compile a sort of default mixer setting to get this sort of thing working out of the box next release. Danny I CAN record from the line-in jack, I just can't hear it. The card is a Soundblaster LiveValue. The system is AMD-1.1G, running a fresh install of Mdk9.0 with all security updates. I am also running the Win4Lin kernel for Mdk9.0. Any ideas? Thanks, john [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 9.0: no line-in
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, John Rebecca wrote: Kmixer shows the volume up and non-muted. I've tried both ALSA and OSS to no avail. All other sound works just fine. I do not know much about recording, as I never use it. But for a start: do not use kmixer, use alsamixergui, and spend a few hours to try all ridiculously named mixer settings. Please report if you get it working. I hope to compile a sort of default mixer setting to get this sort of thing working out of the box next release. Danny I CAN record from the line-in jack, I just can't hear it. The card is a Soundblaster LiveValue. The system is AMD-1.1G, running a fresh install of Mdk9.0 with all security updates. I am also running the Win4Lin kernel for Mdk9.0. Any ideas? Thanks, john [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Sound problem in 9.0: no line-in
Hello everyone. I am having an odd problem in Mdk9.0. All my sound works, except for the line-in. It worked in Mdk8.2. Kmixer shows the volume up and non-muted. I've tried both ALSA and OSS to no avail. All other sound works just fine. I CAN record from the line-in jack, I just can't hear it. The card is a Soundblaster LiveValue. The system is AMD-1.1G, running a fresh install of Mdk9.0 with all security updates. I am also running the Win4Lin kernel for Mdk9.0. Any ideas? Thanks, john [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Sound Question
First question. How do I get the mixer for ALSA enabled? I can use alsamixergui just fine, but have no /dev/dsp, and no kde mixer. snd-mixer-oss is loaded, but: - cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.9.0rc2 emulation code) Kernel: Linux pocket 2.4.19-16mdksmp #1 SMP Fri Oct 4 23:46:33 CDT 2002 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6 (model 55) at 0xc800, irq 10 Audio devices: 0: C-Media PCI DAC/ADC (DUPLEX) Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: 0: MPU-401 (UART) Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
Hello Does the Abit kx333 mainboard has an integrated sound shipset? I had the same problem using alsa in similar configuration, if so just reverse the order of the sound device in modules.conf best jerome - Original Message - From: Wes Kurdziolek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1 1) This is a support question, so you should be asking MandrakeExpert, not this list. 2) Make sure your speakers are on. 3) Turn up the mixer volume; the emu10k1 drivers typically set the default mixer volumes very low. On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 14:35, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl wrote: I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU ---
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
3 solutions: - plug-in your speakers (I assume for all this you have analog speakers) in the front channel (not rear). - install alsamixergui program (think it is in alsa-tools) and mute the 'analog output jack', than, turnup volume with 'wave surround'. - use draksound to switch to OSS Danny On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl wrote: I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU ---
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
I have EXACTLY your mobo and soundcard. Use gmix or aumix and increase the volume ! Stef Le Mercredi 2 Octobre 2002 20:35, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl a écrit : I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU ---
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: I have EXACTLY your mobo and soundcard. Use gmix or aumix and increase the volume ! Stef Le Mercredi 2 Octobre 2002 20:35, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl a écrit : I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU --- That's not a problem, that can be solved with gmix or aumix. I have the problem in a diferent way. Sounds are there for Gnome events, but it's not working with the 'Inbox Monitor', 'PowerManga' and other applications. Everything works perfectly with my SB Live! in one computer. The other computer with a ES1371 has all the other sound problems... And I have a 3rd. one with an old ISA SoundBlaster, where the sound is also not working properly, just like the one with the ES1371 sound card. Any Idea, what to do?
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 11:08, Lutscher a écrit : Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: I have EXACTLY your mobo and soundcard. Use gmix or aumix and increase the volume ! Stef Le Mercredi 2 Octobre 2002 20:35, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl a écrit : I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU --- That's not a problem, that can be solved with gmix or aumix. I have the problem in a diferent way. Sounds are there for Gnome events, but it's not working with the 'Inbox Monitor', 'PowerManga' and other applications. Everything works perfectly with my SB Live! in one computer. The other computer with a ES1371 has all the other sound problems... And I have a 3rd. one with an old ISA SoundBlaster, where the sound is also not working properly, just like the one with the ES1371 sound card. Any Idea, what to do? 1 try the different boume levels as said, and report us. 2 did you did a fresh install ? 3 any error message at boot time ? 4 launch the above programs from a console, and check for warnings / errors in the console and in var/log/messages or /var/log/whatever appropriate. Stef
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
Everything works perfectly with my SB Live! in one computer. The other computer with a ES1371 has all the other sound problems... And I have a 3rd. one with an old ISA SoundBlaster, where the sound is also not working properly, just like the one with the ES1371 sound card. Sounds like esd or artsd are blocking the dsp. Does it work again when you kill esd or artsd? Or you can run the programs through soundwrapper: 'soundwrapper powermanga' Danny Any Idea, what to do?
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 11:08, Lutscher a écrit : Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: I have EXACTLY your mobo and soundcard. Use gmix or aumix and increase the volume ! Stef Le Mercredi 2 Octobre 2002 20:35, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl a écrit : I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU --- That's not a problem, that can be solved with gmix or aumix. I have the problem in a diferent way. Sounds are there for Gnome events, but it's not working with the 'Inbox Monitor', 'PowerManga' and other applications. Everything works perfectly with my SB Live! in one computer. The other computer with a ES1371 has all the other sound problems... And I have a 3rd. one with an old ISA SoundBlaster, where the sound is also not working properly, just like the one with the ES1371 sound card. Any Idea, what to do? 1 try the different boume levels as said, and report us. 2 did you did a fresh install ? 3 any error message at boot time ? 4 launch the above programs from a console, and check for warnings / errors in the console and in var/log/messages or /var/log/whatever appropriate. Stef I believe the problem there is with the sound server, emu10k1 support multiple sessions at one time, but es1371 does not artsd and esd will support this even if your card does not, try running eg. powermanga under with artsdsp or esddsp /soundwrapper powermanga /(soundwrapper is a wrapper script which will autodetect if you are using artsd or esd, and run the correct wrapper), and this should work most apps
[Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. Any clue to cope with it ? PS : if i use konqueror, i don't have this problem, but i like galeon. Stef
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 11:08, Lutscher a écrit : Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: I have EXACTLY your mobo and soundcard. Use gmix or aumix and increase the volume ! Stef Le Mercredi 2 Octobre 2002 20:35, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl a écrit : I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU --- That's not a problem, that can be solved with gmix or aumix. I have the problem in a diferent way. Sounds are there for Gnome events, but it's not working with the 'Inbox Monitor', 'PowerManga' and other applications. Everything works perfectly with my SB Live! in one computer. The other computer with a ES1371 has all the other sound problems... And I have a 3rd. one with an old ISA SoundBlaster, where the sound is also not working properly, just like the one with the ES1371 sound card. Any Idea, what to do? 1 try the different boume levels as said, and report us. 2 did you did a fresh install ? 3 any error message at boot time ? 4 launch the above programs from a console, and check for warnings / errors in the console and in var/log/messages or /var/log/whatever appropriate. Stef I believe the problem there is with the sound server, emu10k1 support multiple sessions at one time, but es1371 does not artsd and esd will support this even if your card does not, try running eg. powermanga under with artsdsp or esddsp /soundwrapper powermanga /(soundwrapper is a wrapper script which will autodetect if you are using artsd or esd, and run the correct wrapper), and this should work most apps So people, I'm giving up... I thank you all, but everything seems just to be ok here. I guess, I'll install MDK9.0 RC3 again and just be happy with it. It really works better on the other system and many other little bugs are not there, like: - Evolution allways find Inbox-Folder - Sound works great with the same hardware - root password doesn't stay when I leave DrakConf - etc... Danny, I thing, I'm running everything with soundwrapper... Stef, I have all the devices listed on your mail (just an usual installation made)... Per, everything used to work on the same system with some Mandrake betas and RC's... Thank you all!
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
Stéphane Teletchéa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. If this is the same as me, it's the flash plugin which sux bigtime (like all the proprietary software anyway ;p). I need to stop the xmms when opening a page which freezes galeon because flash plugin is frozen on the busy dsp. You can remove the flash plugin as a solution :-). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 16:17, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : Stéphane Teletchéa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. If this is the same as me, it's the flash plugin which sux bigtime (like all the proprietary software anyway ;p). I need to stop the xmms when opening a page which freezes galeon because flash plugin is frozen on the busy dsp. You can remove the flash plugin as a solution :-). I suspected something like this, but wasn't sure ... Thanks for the advice, i'll try ... I've tried ! It effectively solved the problem. Has someone reported the problem to them ? I will. Stef
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 16:59, vous avez écrit : On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:17:55 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Stéphane Teletchéa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. If this is the same as me, it's the flash plugin which sux bigtime (like all the proprietary software anyway ;p). I need to stop the xmms when opening a page which freezes galeon because flash plugin is frozen on the busy dsp. You can remove the flash plugin as a solution :-). Upgrading to flash plugin 5.0.51 could also help since it no longer uses esound anymore.. I've heard rumors about Flash 6 for linux which should completely fix this problem.. Yes, you're right ! the 5.0.51 solved the problem (until now). Stef
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Stéphane Teletchéa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. If this is the same as me, it's the flash plugin which sux bigtime (like all the proprietary software anyway ;p). I need to stop the xmms when opening a page which freezes galeon because flash plugin is frozen on the busy dsp. You can remove the flash plugin as a solution :-). I found a nice workaround for exactly this :-) Open a page containing flash (you have to pause xmms). But do not close the page - just minimize it and browse further in a new page. All other flash pages will then open OK, no need to stop xmms again. Michal Bukovjan
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
So people, I'm giving up... You shouldn't. This is not about your personal problems (or at least, it should not be, especially not if you are reporting this to cooker, instead of a support forum), but about the improvement of the distro. If it doesn't work now, it needs to be fixed. And since you are having the troubles, you are the perfect test-case. Also, you risk that the bug is still there in 9.1 - root password doesn't stay when I leave DrakConf I thought it stayed only 10 secs or so? - etc... o..what else? have you reported this? Danny, I thing, I'm running everything with soundwrapper... then try killing esd and artsd and running it without it. To see if it is really caused by the servers. bye Danny
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 17:15, Stéphane Teletchéa a écrit : Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 16:59, vous avez écrit : On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:17:55 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Stéphane Teletchéa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. If this is the same as me, it's the flash plugin which sux bigtime (like all the proprietary software anyway ;p). I need to stop the xmms when opening a page which freezes galeon because flash plugin is frozen on the busy dsp. You can remove the flash plugin as a solution :-). Upgrading to flash plugin 5.0.51 could also help since it no longer uses esound anymore.. I've heard rumors about Flash 6 for linux which should completely fix this problem.. Yes, you're right ! the 5.0.51 solved the problem (until now). Stef Not for all sites. Flash is now thrown out !!! I'll wait for 6.0 release. May be this should be included as a warning for powerpacks, and/or errata section. Stef
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 17:15, Stéphane Teletchéa a écrit : Le Jeudi 3 Octobre 2002 16:59, vous avez écrit : On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:17:55 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Stéphane Teletchéa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. If this is the same as me, it's the flash plugin which sux bigtime (like all the proprietary software anyway ;p). I need to stop the xmms when opening a page which freezes galeon because flash plugin is frozen on the busy dsp. Upgrading to flash plugin 5.0.51 could also help since it no longer uses esound anymore.. I've heard rumors about Flash 6 for linux which should completely fix this problem.. the 5.0.51 solved the problem (until now). Not for all sites. I'll wait for 6.0 release. May be this should be included as a warning for powerpacks, and/or errata section. I've encountered this problem for a while with Flash pages in Mozilla - starting mozilla and xmms with soundwrapper solved the problem for me: soundwrapper program program-args -- Mark Scott
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem in 8.2
On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:17:55 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Stéphane Teletchéa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm listening music with xmms, and when browsing with galeon, i'm sometimes stuck until the next song. I think the web page seems to have sound because it doesn't happen on every site, but i cannot understand why i couldn't stop this behaviour from galeon's preferences. If this is the same as me, it's the flash plugin which sux bigtime (like all the proprietary software anyway ;p). I need to stop the xmms when opening a page which freezes galeon because flash plugin is frozen on the busy dsp. You can remove the flash plugin as a solution :-). Upgrading to flash plugin 5.0.51 could also help since it no longer uses esound anymore.. I've heard rumors about Flash 6 for linux which should completely fix this problem.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU ---
Re: [Cooker] Sound not working with MDK9.0 and SB LIve emu10k1
1) This is a support question, so you should be asking MandrakeExpert, not this list. 2) Make sure your speakers are on. 3) Turn up the mixer volume; the emu10k1 drivers typically set the default mixer volumes very low. On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 14:35, Torstein Hernes Dybdahl wrote: I do not have any sound after upgrade from MDK8.2 to MDK9.0 It worked with MDK8.2 I have an Abit kx333 mainboard and SBLive card with the emu10k1 chip The sound card is recognized, and all modules are inserted, but there does not come any sound. whith cat file /dev/dsp does not make any sound i speakers. It would be nice if someone could help me. Vennlig Hilsen Torstein Hernes Dybdahl --- Haldensgate 21 7014 Trondheim NORWAY Stud. Tech. ved Elektroteknikk og Telekommunikasjon, NTNU ---
[Cooker] Sound Questions
What is the difference between /dev/sound and /dev/snd? Is one OSS and one ALSA? What module in the cooker kernels needs to be loaded to have mic input? Everything works ok for me except for the fact that I get nothing from my mic. What ALSA device maps to /dev/dsp? This is not a fresh install, but a constant cooker upgrade, and when I switched from the kernel.org kernels (OSS) to the Mandrake cooker kernels (ALSA), I never had a link created for me. Thanks. TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger
Re: [Cooker] Sound card driver problem
Brian Craft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: H...when I run draksound (as root) it shows the snd-cs46xx driver as the one in use, but the drop down list doesn't give me the choice to pick the cs46xx. uh ? what's in the menu then ? you wouldn't have a menu if there were nothing but an error message then ! also you may want to install alsamixergui (poor gui...) and play with more mixers
[Cooker] Sound card driver problem
I'm running Mandrake 9 RC3 on my laptop and my soundcard is listed as follows from Harddrake: Vendor: Cirrus Logic Alternative drivers: cs46xx Bus: PCI Bus identification: 1013:6003:1071:6003 Location on the bus: 0:9:0 Description: CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] Module: snd-cs46xx Media class: MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO If I play an audio cd, everything sounds great. If I stream anything via RealAudio or XMMS, the sound is very flat with no bass frequencies. Any ideas on what's happening? -- Brian Craft Registered Linux User # 210286 Linux Registered machine: 97873 Yahoo Instant Messenger ID: bcraft67 ICQ id: 129672292 AIM: linuxgeek67 Linux..the OS of Choice! After you install Windows XP, you have the option to create user accounts. If you create user accounts, by default, they will have an account type of Administrator with no password. -- Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q293834
Re: [Cooker] Sound card driver problem
On Saturday 21 September 2002 07:46 am, Brian Craft wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9 RC3 on my laptop and my soundcard is listed as follows from Harddrake: Vendor: Cirrus Logic Alternative drivers: cs46xx Bus: PCI Bus identification: 1013:6003:1071:6003 Location on the bus: 0:9:0 Description: CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] Module: snd-cs46xx Media class: MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO If I play an audio cd, everything sounds great. If I stream anything via RealAudio or XMMS, the sound is very flat with no bass frequencies. Any ideas on what's happening? run kmix or some other mixer program and try adjusting the settings. You probably have the mixer settings turned way down. Audio CDs run directly to the output, bypassing most of the soundcard. -- -- Igor
Re: [Cooker] Sound card driver problem
On Saturday 21 September 2002 10:14 am, Igor Izyumin wrote: On Saturday 21 September 2002 07:46 am, Brian Craft wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9 RC3 on my laptop and my soundcard is listed as follows from Harddrake: Vendor: Cirrus Logic Alternative drivers: cs46xx Bus: PCI Bus identification: 1013:6003:1071:6003 Location on the bus: 0:9:0 Description: CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] Module: snd-cs46xx Media class: MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO If I play an audio cd, everything sounds great. If I stream anything via RealAudio or XMMS, the sound is very flat with no bass frequencies. Any ideas on what's happening? run kmix or some other mixer program and try adjusting the settings. You probably have the mixer settings turned way down. Audio CDs run directly to the output, bypassing most of the soundcard. There are no bass/treble controls on kmix for this soundcard driver. Volume isn't an issue, just the lack of bass/treble/EQ control. -- Brian Craft Registered Linux User # 210286 Linux Registered machine: 97873 Yahoo Instant Messenger ID: bcraft67 ICQ id: 129672292 AIM: linuxgeek67 Linux..the OS of Choice! After you install Windows XP, you have the option to create user accounts. If you create user accounts, by default, they will have an account type of Administrator with no password. -- Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q293834
Re: [Cooker] Sound card driver problem
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:17:53 -0400 Brian Craft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 September 2002 10:14 am, Igor Izyumin wrote: On Saturday 21 September 2002 07:46 am, Brian Craft wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9 RC3 on my laptop and my soundcard is listed as follows from Harddrake: Vendor: Cirrus Logic Alternative drivers: cs46xx AFAIK draksound run as root lets you change to that alternative driver: cs46xx (note that cs46xx is the OSS driver and snd-cs46xx is the ALSA one). Bus: PCI Bus identification: 1013:6003:1071:6003 Location on the bus: 0:9:0 Description: CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] Module: snd-cs46xx Media class: MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO If I play an audio cd, everything sounds great. If I stream anything via RealAudio or XMMS, the sound is very flat with no bass frequencies. Any ideas on what's happening? run kmix or some other mixer program and try adjusting the settings. You probably have the mixer settings turned way down. Audio CDs run directly to the output, bypassing most of the soundcard. There are no bass/treble controls on kmix for this soundcard driver. Volume isn't an issue, just the lack of bass/treble/EQ control. HTH, -Frans
Re: [Cooker] Sound card driver problem
On Saturday 21 September 2002 03:59 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:17:53 -0400 Brian Craft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 September 2002 10:14 am, Igor Izyumin wrote: On Saturday 21 September 2002 07:46 am, Brian Craft wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9 RC3 on my laptop and my soundcard is listed as follows from Harddrake: Vendor: Cirrus Logic Alternative drivers: cs46xx AFAIK draksound run as root lets you change to that alternative driver: cs46xx (note that cs46xx is the OSS driver and snd-cs46xx is the ALSA one). Bus: PCI Bus identification: 1013:6003:1071:6003 Location on the bus: 0:9:0 Description: CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] Module: snd-cs46xx Media class: MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO If I play an audio cd, everything sounds great. If I stream anything via RealAudio or XMMS, the sound is very flat with no bass frequencies. Any ideas on what's happening? run kmix or some other mixer program and try adjusting the settings. You probably have the mixer settings turned way down. Audio CDs run directly to the output, bypassing most of the soundcard. There are no bass/treble controls on kmix for this soundcard driver. Volume isn't an issue, just the lack of bass/treble/EQ control. HTH, -Frans H...when I run draksound (as root) it shows the snd-cs46xx driver as the one in use, but the drop down list doesn't give me the choice to pick the cs46xx. -- Brian Craft Registered Linux User # 210286 Linux Registered machine: 97873 Yahoo Instant Messenger ID: bcraft67 ICQ id: 129672292 AIM: linuxgeek67 Linux..the OS of Choice! After you install Windows XP, you have the option to create user accounts. If you create user accounts, by default, they will have an account type of Administrator with no password. -- Microsoft KnowledgeBase article Q293834
Re: [Cooker] sound troubles with RC1
Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An interesting problem with es1371 in RC1: If I use sndconfig, it correctly identifies and activates the sound, but the initscripts do not automatically enable the sound system. T send the output of the commands lspcidrake -v, fgrep snd-slot T /etc/modules.conf, /sbin/lsmod, /sbin/chkconfig --list T sound, /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa, aumix -q, /sbin/fuser T -v /dev/dsp The culprit appears to be that snd-slot is missing from modules.conf Installation scripts need to add alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0 2 problems: - you used alsaconf which uses snd-card-X, not snd-slot-X as us - why alsaconf was needed ?
Re: [Cooker] sound troubles with RC1
T == Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: T Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An interesting problem with es1371 in RC1: If I use sndconfig, it correctly identifies and activates the sound, but the initscripts do not automatically enable the sound system. T send the output of the commands lspcidrake -v, fgrep T snd-slot /etc/modules.conf, /sbin/lsmod, /sbin/chkconfig T --list sound, /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa, aumix -q, T /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp The culprit appears to be that snd-slot is missing from modules.conf Installation scripts need to add alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.(Pablo Picasso)
[Cooker] sound (or unsound) feedback from a linux sound novice
Even though I am by no means an expert on sound in Linux, I would like to give some feedback all the same. I hope it will be of some use, to give you an idea of what a general novice might need prompting to try to do. Sound output worked right away using Release candidate one. However, I was not able to get ViaVoice Dictation for Linux to operate (the version that was included with power packs 7.2 and 8.0, using the Sun JRE instead of the IBM JRE), because it was not able to detect recorded sound through the main application. Strangely, it was able to record some kind of speech using its audio setup wizard, even that the main application would not work. Even more strangely, sound output from the audio setup wizard sounded like something short, nasty, and full of static. I'm running a Sound Blaster live. This is the relevant output of lspci: 00:11.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 03) So I figured the solution was to start draksound and see what choices it would present. It mentioned that there was a choice between Alsa and OSS drivers. However, it presented two choices in the drop down box: audigy() and emu10k1(). It didn't mention anything in these choices about Alsa or OSS, which I found confusing. When I tried to select emu10k1, I noticed on the command line output that the existing mixer could not be shut down, because another process was using it (it turned out to be the Gnome mixer). It seemed to be indicating that Alsa's mixer was running. So I logged out of gnome, hit ctrl-alt-f1, and logged in as root. I ran draksound from the command line, chose the second option, logged out, hit ctrl-alt-f7, and logged back into Gnome. I assume it must have loaded a different driver, because ViaVoice Dictation for Linux now works (luckily for me). Perhaps there is a bug with recording under Alsa, or else ViaVoice Dictation is just not compatible with it. Anyway, sound now works for what I need it to do. I'm a bit concerned that draksound needs a warning of some sort to say that maybe it should be run when not the user is logged into a gui and that all applications using sound shout not be running (and perhaps explain how to do that for a newbie). I hope this has been of minor assistance in making the version of Mandrake the best yet! Thanks very much. Damon
Re: [Cooker] sound (or unsound) feedback from a linux sound novice
Anyway, sound now works for what I need it to do. I'm a bit concerned that draksound needs a warning of some sort to say that maybe it should be run when not the user is logged into a gui and that all applications using sound shout not be running (and perhaps explain how to do that for a newbie). I'd agree here. An expert (??) user should know that X sessions (at least most) start some sort of sound daemon (beit arts or esd), and to switch sound drivers would not be a good idea, but a newbie user wouldn't. I'm still grasping a lot of sound issues myself (prompted more so with the latest switch from OSS to Alsa), so I wouldnt' call myself a seasoned veteran, but I try to learn a li'l more each and every day:P -- TJW: Head tech, Dreamless Realms Mud: http://dreamless.wolfstream.net Snippets http://dreamless.wolfstream.net/ Telnet dreamless.wolfstream.net:9275 The OLC Pages http://olc.wolfstream.net
Re: [Cooker] sound instability still
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 03 September 2002 01:35, Byron Poland wrote: Notice the inclusion of the above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss alsa stuff still. either way, playback .ogg, crash with same output. Reboot, It is no real problem that it still says above snd-cmpci... I don't know where to turn from here. On previous installs of 8.2 (for sure) and an earlier beta (not sure if I tested sound) Sound seemed to work fine. Very strange. Actually I suspect that the sound isn't even the problem. Do you still have the kernel of an earlier beta? maybe you can try it. Danny - - -- At the end of your life there'll be a good rest, and no further activities are scheduled. - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9dHLhaeiN+EU2vEIRAvOZAJoDOxMz10TMaWhQCHojNYQPsrvBYQCgl9b4 tMS0lOi0g4q60RQxnaUpjBk= =fy1Q - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9dHzhaeiN+EU2vEIRAuP1AJ0RKIInZO5qhrRFLeAhMou6AjbP5gCfSPU7 +jtxK7hobYgim4UhkFIEeM4= =hdR8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] sound instability still
On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 05:12, Danny Tholen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 03 September 2002 01:35, Byron Poland wrote: Notice the inclusion of the above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss alsa stuff still. either way, playback .ogg, crash with same output. Reboot, It is no real problem that it still says above snd-cmpci... I don't know where to turn from here. On previous installs of 8.2 (for sure) and an earlier beta (not sure if I tested sound) Sound seemed to work fine. Very strange. Actually I suspect that the sound isn't even the problem. Do you still have the kernel of an earlier beta? maybe you can try it. Danny To update. Today I tried some older kernels (beta 2 kernel) with no luck, so I stripped all my hardware from my sys, except video card and the integrated hardware on the mainboard (nic,sound) and Sound worked. I added some things back slowly and for kicks swapped the 2nd nic I was using (Tulip) with one that used the same driver as the on-board nic (8139too) just thinking it would cut down on a little overhead. Well what do you know, sound works fine with no crashes with both ALSA and OSS drivers now. Maybe an issue with the tulip driver/ interrupt conflicts. added in my other cards (scsi, ieee1394) and everything is still golden. Byron
[Cooker] sound instability still
-I sent this earlier today, but haven't seen it come through on the list yet, I apologize if you get this twice. uname -r 2.4.19-8mdk I posted about this before and haven't gotten anywhere. C-Media CMI8738-MX Chipset on a Soyo KT333/Ultra Dragon Main board.System locks up hard about 15-30 seconds into any audio playback, With the same output to f12 console (attached - crash.txt), every time, (with both alsa and oss modules loaded. Today I've been trying everything I can think off to see what crashes and what doesn't. Using draksound I select the alsa module, console output: Saving mixer settings [ OK ] Starting ALSA version 0.9.0rc2: cmipci. [ OK ] Loading mixer settings [ OK ] lsmod (snd*): Module Size Used byTainted: PF snd-seq-midi3680 0 (autoclean) (unused) snd-opl3-synth 9860 0 (autoclean) (unused) snd-seq-instr 4816 0 (autoclean) [snd-opl3-synth] snd-seq-midi-emul 4880 0 (autoclean) [snd-opl3-synth] snd-ainstr-fm 1780 0 (autoclean) [snd-opl3-synth] snd-seq-oss26176 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3208 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss] snd-seq33264 2 [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi-emul snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss36932 0 (unused) snd-mixer-oss 9016 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-cmipci 15628 0 snd-pcm55808 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-cmipci] snd-opl3-lib5764 0 [snd-opl3-synth snd-cmipci] snd-hwdep 3840 0 [snd-opl3-lib] snd-timer 9964 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib] snd-mpu401-uart 2752 0 [snd-cmipci] snd-rawmidi12864 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-mpu401-uart] snd-seq-device 3836 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi] snd24804 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth snd-seq-instr snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cmipci snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore 3780 0 [snd] modules.conf: probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx alias eth0 tulip alias sound-slot-0 snd-cmipci probeall usb-interface usb-uhci ehci-hcd alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 alias eth1 8139too above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss go to playback an .ogg, switch to f12,and within seconds, system crashes, with the output in the attachment. Reboot, use draksound to switch to OSS module: Saving mixer settings [ OK ] Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0rc2): [ OK ] rmmod: module snd-cmipci is not loaded Loading sound module (cmpci)[ OK ] Loading mixer settings [ OK ] lsmod: cmpci 27052 0 soundcore 3780 0 [cmpci] modules.conf: probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx alias eth0 tulip alias sound-slot-0 cmpci probeall usb-interface usb-uhci ehci-hcd alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 alias eth1 8139too above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss Notice the inclusion of the above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss alsa stuff still. either way, playback .ogg, crash with same output. Reboot, playback, crash. remove the above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss alsa from modules.conf, reboot, playback crash with same output. I don't know where to turn from here. On previous installs of 8.2 (for sure) and an earlier beta (not sure if I tested sound) Sound seemed to work fine. divide error: CPU:0 EIP:0010:[c01200a0] Tainted: PF EFLAGS: 082 eax: ebx: 0001 ecx: 0001 edx: 0046 esi: c02bb560 edi: fffe ebp: c0297f58 esp: c0297f48 ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c0297000) Stack: 0046 c02b9900 c0297f78 c0297f70 c010a416 c025d53c 51ce c0296000 0010 c0297fc4 c010c8c8 51ce c0296000 0010 c0297fc4 0018 0018 ff00 c01071a4 0010 Call Trace:[c010a416] [c010c8c8] [c01071a4] [c0114b35] [c0114a80] [c0107212] [c0105000] Code: f7 c3 01 00 00 00 75 4f 83 c6 08 d1 eb 75 f1 fa 8b 1d 60 5c 0Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! In interrupt handler - not syncing
Re: [Cooker] sound doesn't work (yamaha ymf-724 pci)
Sascha Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sound does not work, even though alsa is up-and-running. this card worked 'out of the box' with alsa on 8.2. If you need more info ask - i don't know exactly what to provide classic: lspcidrake -v fgrep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf lsmod|fgrep snd fuser -v /dev/dsp aumix -q
Re: [Cooker] sound doesn't work (yamaha ymf-724 pci)
On Thursday 29 August 2002 11:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Sascha Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sound does not work, even though alsa is up-and-running. this card worked 'out of the box' with alsa on 8.2. If you need more info ask - i don't know exactly what to provide classic: lspcidrake -v fgrep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf lsmod|fgrep snd fuser -v /dev/dsp aumix -q lspcidrake -v agpgart : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-751 [Irongate] System Controller [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:1022 device:7006) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-751 PCI to PCI bridge [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:1022 device:7007) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 PCI to ISA bridge [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:1022 device:7408) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 (Viper) Bus Master IDE controller [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:1022 device:7409) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 Power Management Controller [BRIDGE_OTHER] (vendor:1022 device:740b) usb-ohci: Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 PCI to USB Open Host Controller [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:1022 device:740c) 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:10ec device:8139) snd-ymfpci : Yamaha Corp|YMF-724 [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1073 device:0004) Card:RIVA TNT : nVidia Corporation|Riva TNT 128 [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:10de device:0020 subv:1102 subd:1015) unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:) Mouse:USB|Wheel : Microsoft Corp.|IntelliMouse Optical [Human Interface Devices|Boot Interface Subclass|Mouse] (vendor:045e device:0040) fgrep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf alias sound-slot-0 ymfpci lsmod|fgrep snd snd-seq-oss26176 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3208 0 [snd-seq-oss] snd-seq33264 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss36932 0 snd-mixer-oss 9016 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-ymfpci 42336 1 snd-pcm55808 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-ymfpci] snd-opl3-lib5764 0 [snd-ymfpci] snd-hwdep 3840 0 [snd-opl3-lib] snd-timer 9964 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib] snd-mpu401-uart 2752 0 [snd-ymfpci] snd-rawmidi12864 0 [snd-mpu401-uart] snd-seq-device 3836 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi] snd-ac97-codec 25508 0 [snd-ymfpci] snd24804 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-ymfpci snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-ac97-codec] soundcore 3780 0 [snd] fuser -v /dev/dsp gives no output aumix -q vol 81, 81, P pcm 71, 71 speaker 0, 0 line 0, 0, P mic 0, 0, P cd 81, 81, R igain 0, 0 line1 0, 0, P dig1 100, 100 dig2 100, 100 phin 0, 0, P video 0, 0, P
[Cooker] sound doesn't work (yamaha ymf-724 pci)
--running cooker rsync's at: 13:37am GMT 29.08.2002 Hi sound does not work, even though alsa is up-and-running. this card worked 'out of the box' with alsa on 8.2. If you need more info ask - i don't know exactly what to provide Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] Sound Blaster Live front 5'1/4 slot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think the alsa driver does support this? Danny On Wednesday 28 August 2002 02:28, Pbt wrote: Is there any good drivers for the slot of the sound blaster live platinium device ? I can't use the headphones of the front device of the UC and it would be a great thing because wires are too shorts ! ;) Can we help to the development of this driver ? Pierre BETOUIN -Message d'origine- De: Steve Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Cooker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 27/08/02 Objet: [Cooker] Sound Blaster Live rear channels in Cooker? Hi, Under Mandrake 8.2 the rear channels of my Sound Blaster live worked fine. (alsa 0.5, I think) I had a nice 3D slider in kmix and it was great. Under the current cooker, I have no 3D slider and get no sound from the rear speakers. I've messed around with amixer and alsamixer to no avail. Is there something simple I'm missing here or is it a bug? Appended is the output of amixer. Thanks for any assistance. Thanks, Steve Bergman Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Front Right: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone LFE',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Headphone',1 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Headphone Center',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Tone',0 Capabilities: pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Mono: Front Left: Playback [off] Front Right: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Bass',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Mono: 20 [50%] Front Left: Front Right: Simple mixer control 'Treble',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Mono: 20 [50%] Front Left: Front Right: Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control '3D Control Sigmatel - Depth',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control '3D Control Sigmatel - Rear Depth',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 24 [77%] [on] Front Right: Playback 24 [77%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround Digital',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 100 [100%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 100 [100%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'Wave',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Wave Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Music',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
[Cooker] Sound Blaster Live rear channels in Cooker?
Hi, Under Mandrake 8.2 the rear channels of my Sound Blaster live worked fine. (alsa 0.5, I think) I had a nice 3D slider in kmix and it was great. Under the current cooker, I have no 3D slider and get no sound from the rear speakers. I've messed around with amixer and alsamixer to no avail. Is there something simple I'm missing here or is it a bug? Appended is the output of amixer. Thanks for any assistance. Thanks, Steve Bergman Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Front Right: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone LFE',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Headphone',1 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Headphone Center',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Tone',0 Capabilities: pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Mono: Front Left: Playback [off] Front Right: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Bass',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Mono: 20 [50%] Front Left: Front Right: Simple mixer control 'Treble',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Mono: 20 [50%] Front Left: Front Right: Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control '3D Control Sigmatel - Depth',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control '3D Control Sigmatel - Rear Depth',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 24 [77%] [on] Front Right: Playback 24 [77%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround Digital',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 100 [100%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 100 [100%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'Wave',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Wave Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Music',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Line LiveDrive',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 -
Re: [Cooker] Sound Blaster Live rear channels in Cooker?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 August 2002 20:17, Steve Bergman wrote: Mute this channel: Simple mixer control 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] (ie: it should say: Mono: Playback [off] And try again. Play a bit with the Wave Surround, EMU10K1 PCM and 3D settings to increase the volume and sound of the rear channels. I wonder, Thierry, is it unmuted by default? If so, can you change this? - - He who knows that enough is enough will always have enough. -- Lao Tsu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9a+aJaeiN+EU2vEIRAhFAAJ9IYSupWfhFvEzijTI7SJg/Yn/vhACfWU7n hj+18KzymriecVC//+Exc+k= =nyvj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Sound Blaster Live front 5'1/4 slot
Is there any good drivers for the slot of the sound blaster live platinium device ? I can't use the headphones of the front device of the UC and it would be a great thing because wires are too shorts ! ;) Can we help to the development of this driver ? Pierre BETOUIN -Message d'origine- De: Steve Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Cooker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 27/08/02 Objet: [Cooker] Sound Blaster Live rear channels in Cooker? Hi, Under Mandrake 8.2 the rear channels of my Sound Blaster live worked fine. (alsa 0.5, I think) I had a nice 3D slider in kmix and it was great. Under the current cooker, I have no 3D slider and get no sound from the rear speakers. I've messed around with amixer and alsamixer to no avail. Is there something simple I'm missing here or is it a bug? Appended is the output of amixer. Thanks for any assistance. Thanks, Steve Bergman Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Front Right: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 17 [55%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Headphone LFE',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Headphone',1 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Headphone Center',1 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Tone',0 Capabilities: pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Mono: Front Left: Playback [off] Front Right: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Bass',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Mono: 20 [50%] Front Left: Front Right: Simple mixer control 'Treble',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 40 Mono: 20 [50%] Front Left: Front Right: Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control '3D Control Sigmatel - Depth',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control '3D Control Sigmatel - Rear Depth',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 24 [77%] [on] Front Right: Playback 24 [77%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround Digital',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 100 [100%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 100 [100%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 100 [100%] Simple mixer control 'Wave',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Wave Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Mono: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Wave Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Simple mixer control 'Music',0 Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100 Front Left: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Front Right: Playback 100 [100%] Capture 0 [0%] [off] Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
[Cooker] Re: [cooker] sound in quake3
On Friday 16 August 2002 05:42 am, daniel beck wrote: hello ! I installed beta 3. I also installed the GForce Driver from Nvidia. And I installed quake3 point release, everything I need for my workstation :-). yes, and all works great, withouth that I have no sound in q3 .the sound works well for everything else (i have a es1371 sound card, audi-pci-97, from ensonique). can someone help me ??? Are you using KDE? You may have to kill or disable the KDE Sound Server (artsd). Games like Q3 don't like it. -- -- Igor no I use gnome. I disabled esd . daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] sound in beta 2 but no sound in beta 3 now.
I've got a hp pavilion 7966 with onboard alc sound . sound worked in beta 1 and 2 but it detected it as 810. i think you fixed 810 now but it's still detecting it as 810 and no sound. good news is samba finally works now. still checking out other stuff. do you know when xfree 4.3 will be out? i heard it's supossed to have 3d support for my ati 8500 125meg by then. i've tried the fire gl driver but have never gotten it to work with mdk. few things are lacking for me to use mdk as my every day os. sound, graphics, game support (namely quake3), and dvd player support. looks real good and is coming along. keep up the good work. let me know how i can help. P. Kennedy Gilbert, AZ
[Cooker] [cooker] sound in quake3
hello ! I installed beta 3. I also installed the GForce Driver from Nvidia. And I installed quake3 point release, everything I need for my workstation :-). yes, and all works great, withouth that I have no sound in q3 .the sound works well for everything else (i have a es1371 sound card, audi-pci-97, from ensonique). can someone help me ??? daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] [cooker] sound in quake3
On Friday 16 August 2002 05:42 am, daniel beck wrote: hello ! I installed beta 3. I also installed the GForce Driver from Nvidia. And I installed quake3 point release, everything I need for my workstation :-). yes, and all works great, withouth that I have no sound in q3 .the sound works well for everything else (i have a es1371 sound card, audi-pci-97, from ensonique). can someone help me ??? Are you using KDE? You may have to kill or disable the KDE Sound Server (artsd). Games like Q3 don't like it. -- -- Igor
[Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2
I installed Mandrake 9 b 2 on my Leadtek 7350 KDA with an integrated sound peripheral. Mandrake 9.0 beta 2 detect a SiS 7012 PCI Audio Accelerator, but there is no sound. So I tried to type this line in my /etc/modules.conf file: alias sound i810_audio It's a miracle :-), the sound runs. But there is a problem, it is chopped, cut in many parts. I've do the same thing on my Mandrake 8.2, and it functions really well. Roland
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2
roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I installed Mandrake 9 b 2 on my Leadtek 7350 KDA with an integrated sound peripheral. Mandrake 9.0 beta 2 detect a SiS 7012 PCI Audio Accelerator, but there is no sound. send me the result of lspcidrake -v so that i make your card use i810_audio So I tried to type this line in my /etc/modules.conf file: alias sound i810_audio It's a miracle :-), the sound runs. But there is a problem, it is chopped, cut in many parts. I've do the same thing on my Mandrake 8.2, and it functions really well. could you try snd-intel8x0 instead of i810_audio (don't forget to install alsa-utils, libalsa2, libalsa2-data, to run the alsa service and to set the sound volume level since alsa is muted by default)
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2
On jeu, 2002-08-15 at 13:10, Thierry Vignaud wrote: roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: send me the result of lspcidrake -v so that i make your card use i810_audio I will try this could you try snd-intel8x0 instead of i810_audio (don't forget to install alsa-utils, libalsa2, libalsa2-data, to run the alsa service and to set the sound volume level since alsa is muted by default) snd-intel8x0 is that Mandrake 9.0 put in /etc/modules.conf I've put a # before this for type i810_audio.
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2
roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: could you try snd-intel8x0 instead of i810_audio (don't forget to install alsa-utils, libalsa2, libalsa2-data, to run the alsa service and to set the sound volume level since alsa is muted by default) snd-intel8x0 is that Mandrake 9.0 put in /etc/modules.conf I've put a # before this for type i810_audio. when you wrote there's no sound, what do you exactely means ? i understood your mail as there was no driver for your sound card. do you mean that: - apps complains that there's no /dev/dsp, and thus cannot play sound ? - apps complains that they cannot open /dev/dsp, and thus cannot play sound ? - the alsa module isn't load ? - the apps seems to play but there's no sound ?
[Cooker] sound issues (mor)
Ok, 3rd time's the charm MAYBE. Unfortunately, my patience with Mandrake has reached an end. Certain applications require play (/usr/bin/play), which **gasp** someone decided to play with? Once again (for the third time), how do I get this configured to WORK correctlY? Considering someone up there decided they knew everything and that they should mess with something that worked PERFECTLY, it is now up to that someone to respond. Certain applications rely on play (again /usr/bin/play), some actually rely on the OSS drivers. Some are even ((gasp)) binary applications meaning they CAN NOT be changed. One VERY common application like that is crossover. Since the change, NOTHING for sound has come out of that.. -=THAT=- is enough to drive me back to a decent OS that actually (gasp) WORKS out of the box and doesn't mess with that which WORKS correctly (sound for one). Applications like this, I gladly (GLADLY) pay for. Applications that don't provide basic driver support, or half assed support for said drivers I pay nothing for. Applications (or operating systems) that refuse to LISTEN to what their users are saying I pay nothing for, and no attention to. Since I started using Mandrake, I have seen nothing but problems. Failure to unmount devices properly, failure to do many things properly. Now, this just takes the cake. You take a driver that WAS working, and you trash it. For WHAT reason? So, those of us that REQUIRE the drivers for this card are told what, to go buy a new card? I don't think so!! I realize that life as a tech is damn near impossible (I AM one), but I also realize that there is NO reason to fix something or modify somthing that works 100%, which up untill this last release sound HAS done. Now, someone, PLEASE explain to me why I all of the sudden have HALF ASSED sound support (right out of the box mind you). I'd LOVE to hear the explanation for this. -- TJW: Head tech, Dreamless Realms Mud: http://dreamless.wolfstream.net Snippets http://dreamless.wolfstream.net/ Telnet dreamless.wolfstream.net:9275 The OLC Pages http://olc.wolfstream.net
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 14:27, Tom Whiting wrote: ... deleted angry comments ... Erm.. You *do* know that cooker is the experimental branch of mandrake, don't you? If you want things to 'just work' it would be better to stick to the release version. At the moment the latest release is Mandrake 8.2 Wouter -- I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out. -- (Terry Pratchett Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
Tom, please remove your Reply-To: (unless you did it for this mail on purpose) Tom is right. This switch to ALSA preference when OSS works was premature. Set it back how it was for now, and wait for kernel 2.6 to switch. --- Tom Whiting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, 3rd time's the charm MAYBE. Unfortunately, my patience with Mandrake has reached an end. Certain applications require play (/usr/bin/play), which **gasp** someone decided to play with? Once again (for the third time), how do I get this configured to WORK correctlY? Considering someone up there decided they knew everything and that they should mess with something that worked PERFECTLY, it is now up to that someone to respond. Certain applications rely on play (again /usr/bin/play), some actually rely on the OSS drivers. Some are even ((gasp)) binary applications meaning they CAN NOT be changed. One VERY common application like that is crossover. Since the change, NOTHING for sound has come out of that.. -=THAT=- is enough to drive me back to a decent OS that actually (gasp) WORKS out of the box and doesn't mess with that which WORKS correctly (sound for one). Applications like this, I gladly (GLADLY) pay for. Applications that don't provide basic driver support, or half assed support for said drivers I pay nothing for. Applications (or operating systems) that refuse to LISTEN to what their users are saying I pay nothing for, and no attention to. Since I started using Mandrake, I have seen nothing but problems. Failure to unmount devices properly, failure to do many things properly. Now, this just takes the cake. You take a driver that WAS working, and you trash it. For WHAT reason? So, those of us that REQUIRE the drivers for this card are told what, to go buy a new card? I don't think so!! I realize that life as a tech is damn near impossible (I AM one), but I also realize that there is NO reason to fix something or modify somthing that works 100%, which up untill this last release sound HAS done. Now, someone, PLEASE explain to me why I all of the sudden have HALF ASSED sound support (right out of the box mind you). I'd LOVE to hear the explanation for this. -- TJW: Head tech, Dreamless Realms Mud: http://dreamless.wolfstream.net Snippets http://dreamless.wolfstream.net/ Telnet dreamless.wolfstream.net:9275 The OLC Pages http://olc.wolfstream.net __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
You are running cooker, so if you have problems, please report them in a nice way. This might actually work better than the rant below. Also, I think someone replied to your previous message already, and you did't even see that? Danny On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Tom Whiting wrote: Ok, 3rd time's the charm MAYBE. Unfortunately, my patience with Mandrake has reached an end. Certain applications require play (/usr/bin/play), which **gasp** someone decided to play with? Once again (for the third time), how do I get this configured to WORK correctlY? Considering someone up there decided they knew everything and that they should mess with something that worked PERFECTLY, it is now up to that someone to respond. Certain applications rely on play (again /usr/bin/play), some actually rely on the OSS drivers. Some are even ((gasp)) binary applications meaning they CAN NOT be changed. One VERY common application like that is crossover. Since the change, NOTHING for sound has come out of that.. -=THAT=- is enough to drive me back to a decent OS that actually (gasp) WORKS out of the box and doesn't mess with that which WORKS correctly (sound for one). Applications like this, I gladly (GLADLY) pay for. Applications that don't provide basic driver support, or half assed support for said drivers I pay nothing for. Applications (or operating systems) that refuse to LISTEN to what their users are saying I pay nothing for, and no attention to. Since I started using Mandrake, I have seen nothing but problems. Failure to unmount devices properly, failure to do many things properly. Now, this just takes the cake. You take a driver that WAS working, and you trash it. For WHAT reason? So, those of us that REQUIRE the drivers for this card are told what, to go buy a new card? I don't think so!! I realize that life as a tech is damn near impossible (I AM one), but I also realize that there is NO reason to fix something or modify somthing that works 100%, which up untill this last release sound HAS done. Now, someone, PLEASE explain to me why I all of the sudden have HALF ASSED sound support (right out of the box mind you). I'd LOVE to hear the explanation for this.
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom is right. This switch to ALSA preference when OSS works was premature. Set it back how it was for now, and wait for kernel 2.6 to switch. before speaking of doing this or that, he should rather send us the information we asked in order to do a real bug report instead of just insulting us. and he would be nice to respect the netiquette and to continue to write about this in the same thread. idem for microsoft troll he feed his mails with instead of explaining his problem. idem for mixing upcased and lowcase words, repeating words (word ((WORD))), ... as for alsa vs oss, most programs rather prefer alsa api over oss (despite oss still being the defacto standard) especially on the multimedia area. as for working driver, i cannot speak until i know which driver he uses. but i know one thing: whenever i did a pass on alsa drivers to add new cards to pcitable, i *ALWAYS* keep the oss driver when he was already there. as for the working driver, i only switched from oss to alsa when people asked me (because of oss bug, ...). i saw people reporting alsa working better than oss. i rarely (never?) see the reverse (i don't count tom's report don't fix perfectly working driver as a bug report but as insults/troll) but insulting/flaming is always easier than providing the needed information about the problem.
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 07:35 am, Wouter Lagerweij wrote: On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 14:27, Tom Whiting wrote: ... deleted angry comments ... Erm.. You *do* know that cooker is the experimental branch of mandrake, don't you? If you want things to 'just work' it would be better to stick to the release version. At the moment the latest release is Mandrake 8.2 Wouter Actually, I know VERY well that this is an experimental branch of mandrake. VERY well indeed. The problem is that this is a BETA release. There's bound to be issues, YES. however, when it comes down to it, this doesn't even qualify as beta, or pre-beta. This qualifies as the I got a bug up my tail about something and want to see if it'll work syndrome that I've seen so many times. The fact of the matter is this: A OSS works. It HAS worked in the past. Hell, were I to download the ISO's again and rebuild the server, it WOULD work again. Unfortunately I no longer have the cd's to do so, thanks to the individual that decided to make those specific ISO's so large they are incompatible with quite a few older drives. B WHATEVER the new driver is is crap assed at best. When you can't get a BASIC feature to work (/usr/bin/play IS a basic feature that SHOULD work out of the box), then there's a problem, a HUGE problem. This says that the driver is NOT ready for release (even for a beta integration). If Joe internet user decides to go to WalMart and buy a PC with Mandrake on it, IS he (or she) going to be happy when their brand new server doesn't play sound like it's supposed to? I don't think so. Why should I? OSS works, it has worked for QUITE some time. Why mess with a good thing? Put it back in so that individuals can USE it. As far as sticking with stable releases, I've yet to see stable from 'drake. 8.2 was full of problems, and this is just going to be even more full of them, if the current state is any indication. It's not just sound issues, but hardware issues, and rpmdrake, and everything else. If the issue doesn't resolve itself, or get resolved, I'll gladly take my paying business somewhere else. I don't need the lack of support for common devices (Ensoniq / CL soundblaster cards are THE top card out there), nor do I really need to spend hours up every night trying to figure out why X isn't working or Y is, simply because someone else decided to take out WORKING support. **boggle** PROgression is good REgression is bad. The current sound driver status is NOT PROgression (moving forward), instead it is REgression (moving backwards). I'm not too familiar myself with ALsa, or anything of the like, but I am quite sure that this problem won't simply resolve itself. At least not until someone takes that step backward to put support in for OSS again. As far as the next message, which asked that I change the reply-to line, I apologize. Apparently Kmail set that at setup, and I hadn't changed it. -- TJW: Head tech, Dreamless Realms Mud: http://dreamless.wolfstream.net Snippets http://dreamless.wolfstream.net/ Telnet dreamless.wolfstream.net:9275 The OLC Pages http://olc.wolfstream.net
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
just go to /etc/modules and drop in your module's proper name. in my case: esssolo1, and make sure your Sound server is set to Autodetect or OSS. restart the server. no big deal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are running cooker, so if you have problems, please report them in a nice way. This might actually work better than the rant below. Also, I think someone replied to your previous message already, and you did't even see that? Danny On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Tom Whiting wrote: Ok, 3rd time's the charm MAYBE. Unfortunately, my patience with Mandrake has reached an end. Certain applications require play (/usr/bin/play), which **gasp** someone decided to play with? Once again (for the third time), how do I get this configured to WORK correctlY? Considering someone up there decided they knew everything and that they should mess with something that worked PERFECTLY, it is now up to that someone to respond. Certain applications rely on play (again /usr/bin/play), some actually rely on the OSS drivers. Some are even ((gasp)) binary applications meaning they CAN NOT be changed. One VERY common application like that is crossover. Since the change, NOTHING for sound has come out of that.. -=THAT=- is enough to drive me back to a decent OS that actually (gasp) WORKS out of the box and doesn't mess with that which WORKS correctly (sound for one). Applications like this, I gladly (GLADLY) pay for. Applications that don't provide basic driver support, or half assed support for said drivers I pay nothing for. Applications (or operating systems) that refuse to LISTEN to what their users are saying I pay nothing for, and no attention to. Since I started using Mandrake, I have seen nothing but problems. Failure to unmount devices properly, failure to do many things properly. Now, this just takes the cake. You take a driver that WAS working, and you trash it. For WHAT reason? So, those of us that REQUIRE the drivers for this card are told what, to go buy a new card? I don't think so!! I realize that life as a tech is damn near impossible (I AM one), but I also realize that there is NO reason to fix something or modify somthing that works 100%, which up untill this last release sound HAS done. Now, someone, PLEASE explain to me why I all of the sudden have HALF ASSED sound support (right out of the box mind you). I'd LOVE to hear the explanation for this. -- Dean F Owensby - Norfolk, Virginia USA - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - d66b __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 Aug 2002 13:27, Tom Whiting wrote: snip rant Certain applications rely on play (again /usr/bin/play), some actually snip rant # rpm -qf /usr/bin/play sox-12.17.3-4mdk -- Gentoo Linux (portage-2.0.27). KDE: 3.0.2 Qt: 3.0.5. AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ 513MB. Kernel: 2.4.19-win4lin Linux user #275590 (http://counter.li.org/). up 1 day, 2:07. #=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=#
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
The problem is Cooker is about to become the release version. --- Wouter Lagerweij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 14:27, Tom Whiting wrote: ... deleted angry comments ... Erm.. You *do* know that cooker is the experimental branch of mandrake, don't you? If you want things to 'just work' it would be better to stick to the release version. At the moment the latest release is Mandrake 8.2 Wouter -- I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out. -- (Terry Pratchett Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: before speaking of doing this or that, he should rather send us the information we asked in order to do a real bug report instead of just insulting us. and he would be nice to respect the netiquette and to continue to write about this in the same thread. idem for microsoft troll he feed his mails with instead of explaining his problem. idem for mixing upcased and lowcase words, repeating words (word ((WORD))), ... but insulting/flaming is always easier than providing the needed information about the problem. Well I agree with you too. I can understand his frustration though. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
Actually, from the looks of things there's no support (??) for the module. If there is, I'll be damned if I can find it. in /lib/modules/sound/ I see 2 that MIGHT pass as ensoniq, but when it comes to modules I'm not gonna try to load the wrong one. Of course, this is another thing that didn't have to be done up untill just last weekend (early b3 I guess). /lib/modules/2.4.19-1mdk/kernel/sound/pci lspci | grep Ensoniq 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) (wolf@mirage 08:42:31): /lib/modules/2.4.19-1mdk/kernel/sound/pci. The second problem is taht it's not ALL sound, so that the OS already KNOWS what card and driver it's using (arts is working somewhat, I just don't get much else (if anything) for sound). On Thursday 15 August 2002 08:20 am, Dean F Owensby wrote: just go to /etc/modules and drop in your module's proper name. in my case: esssolo1, and make sure your Sound server is set to Autodetect or OSS. restart the server. no big deal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are running cooker, so if you have problems, please report them in a nice way. This might actually work better than the rant below. Also, I think someone replied to your previous message already, and you did't even see that? Danny On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Tom Whiting wrote: Ok, 3rd time's the charm MAYBE. Unfortunately, my patience with Mandrake has reached an end. Certain applications require play (/usr/bin/play), which **gasp** someone decided to play with? Once again (for the third time), how do I get this configured to WORK correctlY? Considering someone up there decided they knew everything and that they should mess with something that worked PERFECTLY, it is now up to that someone to respond. Certain applications rely on play (again /usr/bin/play), some actually rely on the OSS drivers. Some are even ((gasp)) binary applications meaning they CAN NOT be changed. One VERY common application like that is crossover. Since the change, NOTHING for sound has come out of that.. -=THAT=- is enough to drive me back to a decent OS that actually (gasp) WORKS out of the box and doesn't mess with that which WORKS correctly (sound for one). Applications like this, I gladly (GLADLY) pay for. Applications that don't provide basic driver support, or half assed support for said drivers I pay nothing for. Applications (or operating systems) that refuse to LISTEN to what their users are saying I pay nothing for, and no attention to. Since I started using Mandrake, I have seen nothing but problems. Failure to unmount devices properly, failure to do many things properly. Now, this just takes the cake. You take a driver that WAS working, and you trash it. For WHAT reason? So, those of us that REQUIRE the drivers for this card are told what, to go buy a new card? I don't think so!! I realize that life as a tech is damn near impossible (I AM one), but I also realize that there is NO reason to fix something or modify somthing that works 100%, which up untill this last release sound HAS done. Now, someone, PLEASE explain to me why I all of the sudden have HALF ASSED sound support (right out of the box mind you). I'd LOVE to hear the explanation for this. -- TJW: Head tech, Dreamless Realms Mud: http://dreamless.wolfstream.net Snippets http://dreamless.wolfstream.net/ Telnet dreamless.wolfstream.net:9275 The OLC Pages http://olc.wolfstream.net
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 08:45 am, Tom Whiting wrote: The second problem is taht it's not ALL sound, so that the OS already KNOWS what card and driver it's using (arts is working somewhat, I just don't get much else (if anything) for sound). Can you produce the exact error messages? Also, did you try killing arts? You do know that arts blocks the soundcard for non-arts apps, right? Can you email the output of 'lsmod'? The ALSA drivers are far better than OSS in many respects, and work better for 90% of the cards. You have a very unique problem there, and you are not helping fix it but instead trolling, ranting, and harassing the people on this list. Please knock it off and help find/fix the problem instead. -- -- Igor
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 08:45 am, Tom Whiting wrote: Actually, from the looks of things there's no support (??) for the module. If there is, I'll be damned if I can find it. in /lib/modules/sound/ I see 2 that MIGHT pass as ensoniq, but when it comes to modules I'm not gonna try to load the wrong one. Of course, this is another thing that didn't have to be done up untill just last weekend (early b3 I guess). snd-card-ens1371 is the module you are supposed to use. Have you heard about Google (www.google.com)? It could have told you that in about 30 seconds of searching. Also read the documentation at www.alsa-project.org. -- -- Igor
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
--- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 90% of the cards. You have a very unique problem there, and you are not helping fix it but instead trolling, ranting, and harassing the people on this list. Please knock it off and help find/fix the problem instead. The problem is very easy to fix. Go back to the OSS module like it was before. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:33 am, David Walser wrote: --- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 90% of the cards. You have a very unique problem there, and you are not helping fix it but instead trolling, ranting, and harassing the people on this list. Please knock it off and help find/fix the problem instead. The problem is very easy to fix. Go back to the OSS module like it was before. Really? And if we have problems with, say, the 2.4 kernel, we can go back to 2.2? Hell, why is Mandrake even working on 9.0, when they can just ship 8.2? The thing is, OSS is buggy and outdated, and ALSA works much better for most users. We need to fix the problem, not go back to an old, buggy sound system just so that one user can have sound. -- -- Igor
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
The problem is very easy to fix. Go back to the OSS module like it was before. In this case I'd agree with the last statement. I'm working to see WHAT is causing the problem, and it would appear that arts is indeed blocking what should be let through (or at least was with OSS). Unfortunately, Crossover has failed to work under this new setup, and that's something that's rather important to me to have. I have a feeling that it's yet again a conflict with the arts server. So, once again, this is REgression, instead of PROgression. OSS works, Alsa, for some reason doesn't integrate at all with KDE, yet OSS (which does) was thrown out. Personally, I don't see what the problem is/was with OSS. If something works (as it did), then why remove it? Alsa is nothing but a pain from what I've seen (just over the past few days). It doesn't integrate well with UI's, it isn't smart enough to know what it's doing (OSS could at least figure out what sound to play and when, and I NEVER had a problem with it and arts). Oh well, wha do I know, right?
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 10:09 am, Igor Izyumin wrote: On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:33 am, David Walser wrote: --- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 90% of the cards. You have a very unique problem there, and you are not helping fix it but instead trolling, ranting, and harassing the people on this list. Please knock it off and help find/fix the problem instead. The problem is very easy to fix. Go back to the OSS module like it was before. Really? And if we have problems with, say, the 2.4 kernel, we can go back to 2.2? Hell, why is Mandrake even working on 9.0, when they can just ship 8.2? The thing is, OSS is buggy and outdated, and ALSA works much better for most users. We need to fix the problem, not go back to an old, buggy sound system just so that one user can have sound. Aye, but it's NOT just one user, is it? Alsa works better?? **boggle** I highly doubt that a sound server that can't interpret sound is better. I've yet to try Crossover with arts disabled, but if Alsa is not smart enough to handle kde sound it's certainly NOT better than OSS which IS (or at least appeared to be). Why should one person (or more) have to give up Crossover/QuickTime/WM support simply because of something that's not ready to be used or integrated yet?
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 10:09 am, Igor Izyumin wrote: On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:33 am, David Walser wrote: --- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 90% of the cards. You have a very unique problem there, and you are not helping fix it but instead trolling, ranting, and harassing the people on this list. Please knock it off and help find/fix the problem instead. The problem is very easy to fix. Go back to the OSS module like it was before. Really? And if we have problems with, say, the 2.4 kernel, we can go back to 2.2? Hell, why is Mandrake even working on 9.0, when they can just ship 8.2? The thing is, OSS is buggy and outdated, and ALSA works much better for most users. We need to fix the problem, not go back to an old, buggy sound system just so that one user can have sound. Its not just ONE user. OSS has support for most all cards. ALSA doesn't have as large driver base. More is better -- Mr. Jeremy Salch - Data Services Granbury.Com, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email www.granbury.com - Business Website www.tblx.net - Personal Website
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 10:03 am, Jeremy Salch wrote: Its not just ONE user. OSS has support for most all cards. ALSA doesn't have as large driver base. More is better Actually, the reason Mandrake switched was that OSS _doesn't_ support all cards, and ALSA supports more. Also, OSS doesn't support more advanced features on cards like SBLive (from what I understand, I don't actually have one). Can you give me an example of a card that's not supported by ALSA that works with OSS/Free? Maybe a couple of very obscure ones, but there are more drivers overall, and the quality is usually better (I was getting pops with one card with OSS, and the problem was fixed by switching to ALSA). Anyway, here's the ALSA driver list: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ -- -- Igor
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thursday 15 August 2002 10:00 am, Tom Whiting wrote: The problem is very easy to fix. Go back to the OSS module like it was before. In this case I'd agree with the last statement. I'm working to see WHAT is causing the problem, and it would appear that arts is indeed blocking what should be let through (or at least was with OSS). Unfortunately, Crossover has failed to work under this new setup, and that's something that's rather important to me to have. I have a feeling that it's yet again a conflict with the arts server. Arts causes problems for WINE/Crossover regardless of the sound system, and these problems have nothing to do with the sound system. You probably didn't have it running when you used OSS. Just tell the stupid thing not to start (KDE-Config-Sound-Sound Server). That should probably be the default, too. -- -- Igor
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Really? And if we have problems with, say, the 2.4 kernel, we can go back to 2.2? Hell, why is Mandrake even working on 9.0, when they can just ship 8.2? The thing is, OSS is buggy and outdated, and ALSA works much better for most users. We need to fix the problem, not go back to an old, buggy sound system just so that one user can have sound. except it sound it's not an alsa problem, but an arts vs others sound device users, ... addalsa rulez/add
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
I for one greatly appreciate the switch to ALSA, I am using a C-Media 8738 6 channel sound integrated into an IWILL mobo, and have incessantly gotten erroneous playback problems due to 2 things: 1: there ARE NO OSS-only drivers available for my sound (afaik) 2: ALSA .5x drivers (both provided by mdk AND C-media) on 8.2 are very buggy with cpu-intensive tasks (like WINE in particular, wine will only use OSS, crashes with ALSA!) I am all for the early switch, and believe it will be of greater benefit to users in general. keep up the good work all! Anthony Dolan -On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:05:57 +0200 -Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as for alsa vs oss, most programs rather prefer alsa api over oss (despite oss still being the defacto standard) especially on the multimedia area. as for working driver, i cannot speak until i know which driver he uses. but i know one thing: whenever i did a pass on alsa drivers to add new cards to pcitable, i *ALWAYS* keep the oss driver when he was already there. as for the working driver, i only switched from oss to alsa when people asked me (because of oss bug, ...). i saw people reporting alsa working better than oss. i rarely (never?) see the reverse (i don't count tom's report don't fix perfectly working driver as a bug report but as insults/troll)
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 14:15, Tom Whiting wrote: On Thursday 15 August 2002 07:35 am, Wouter Lagerweij wrote: On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 14:27, Tom Whiting wrote: ... deleted angry comments ... Erm.. You *do* know that cooker is the experimental branch of mandrake, don't you? If you want things to 'just work' it would be better to stick to the release version. At the moment the latest release is Mandrake 8.2 Wouter Actually, I know VERY well that this is an experimental branch of mandrake. VERY well indeed. The problem is that this is a BETA release. There's bound to be issues, YES. however, when it comes down to it, this doesn't even qualify as beta, or pre-beta. This qualifies as the I got a bug up my tail about something and want to see if it'll work syndrome that I've seen so many times. The fact of the matter is this: A OSS works. It HAS worked in the past. Hell, were I to download the ISO's again and rebuild the server, it WOULD work again. Unfortunately I no longer have the cd's to do so, thanks to the individual that decided to make those specific ISO's so large they are incompatible with quite a few older drives. snip more testosterone overdosing You've just filled yet another post with pointless bitching without giving the most basic information on the actual setup that's causing this problem (except for saying 'ensoniq / CL soundcards', which is hardly helpful given how many of the things there are). ALSA and OSS aren't monolithic, they're big collections of drivers; as someone has said, MDK still uses OSS drivers by default for almost all cards, it only uses ALSA for cards a) which have no OSS drivers or b) for which the OSS drivers have had bug reports submitted against them. Instead of bitching, can you please explain why this isn't a sensible policy, and explain the actual problem you're having in a useful and non-confrontational manner? It would be far more productive. FWIW, both my sound cards - the inbuilt Yamaha chip in this notebook and the SB16 PCI in the desktop - default to OSS drivers under Mandrake, both 8.2 and Cooker... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 16:00, Tom Whiting wrote: Personally, I don't see what the problem is/was with OSS. If something works (as it did), then why remove it? Alsa is nothing but a pain from what I've seen (just over the past few days). It doesn't integrate well with UI's, it isn't smart enough to know what it's doing (OSS could at least figure out what sound to play and when, and I NEVER had a problem with it and arts). OSS works *for some version of* works. It's just not as *good* as ALSA for many cards. A small example; the OSS driver for the sound chip in this machine works fine...but it has no setting for the microphone input gain level, which makes using a microphone effectively useless. The ALSA driver does. Now, there OSS *WORKS*, but which driver do you think i'd rather use? Oh, also, from what I remember ALSA is a lot better at allowing multiple applications to output sound at once than OSS. It also has better features for audio editors on the higher-end cards that are suited to that task. There ARE reasons ALSA, not OSS, will be the default in kernel 2.6, you know... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Its not just ONE user. OSS has support for most all cards. ALSA doesn't have as large driver base. More is better Actually, the reason Mandrake switched was that OSS _doesn't_ support all cards, and ALSA supports more. indeed but the thruth is that we don't switched from oss to alsa but instead provide both. i always kept by default oss drivers in your pcitable. each time a new alsa was released, i diffed the last versions, and added the new cards supported by latest alsa. so only new cards were defaulted to alsa. then, some people reported their card misbehave with the old oss driver we used with their card or that alsa was much more featured for their card. so on their request, i switched *only* their card from oss to alsa. Also, OSS doesn't support more advanced features on cards like SBLive (from what I understand, I don't actually have one). Can you give me an example of a card that's not supported by ALSA that works with OSS/Free? they're indeed very rare. Maybe a couple of very obscure ones, but there are more drivers overall, and the quality is usually better (I was getting pops with one card with OSS, and the problem was fixed by switching to ALSA). Anyway, here's the ALSA driver list: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
Jeremy Salch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Its not just ONE user. OSS has support for most all cards. ALSA doesn't have as large driver base. More is better more is better ? alsa supports nearly all cards supported by oss (i speak about kernel's oss/free of course, not commercial oss) and support a lot of other cards too. and alsa share lot of code between its sound drivers, thus offer support more cards for less development and smaller binaries
Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)
Jeremy Salch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well it doesn't support my card which is ? (i'll build a oss vs alsa comparaison)
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2
On jeu, 2002-08-15 at 13:10, Thierry Vignaud wrote: send me the result of lspcidrake -v so that i make your card use i810_audio I joign the result of lspcidrake -v and my /etc/modules.conf, before the modification and after. unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|735 Host [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendo unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|5591/5592 AGP [BRIDGE_PCI] (v unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|85C503/5513 [BRIDGE_ISA] (ven usb-ohci: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|7001 USB [SERIAL_USB] (vendor usb-ohci: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|7001 USB [SERIAL_USB] (vendor unknown : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|5513 [IDE] [STORAGE_IDE] (ven snd-intel8x0: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:10ec device:8139) Card:NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic): nVidia Corporation|GeForce3 (rev 1) [DISPLAY_VGA unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:) unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:) probeall usb-interface usb-ohci alias eth0 8139too above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 alias usb-interface0 usb-ohci probeall usb-interface usb-ohci alias eth0 8139too # above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss # alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 alias usb-interface0 usb-ohci alias sound i810_audio
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2
Le Jeudi 15 Août 2002 13:34, vous avez écrit : roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: could you try snd-intel8x0 instead of i810_audio (don't forget to install alsa-utils, libalsa2, libalsa2-data, to run the alsa service and to set the sound volume level since alsa is muted by default) snd-intel8x0 is that Mandrake 9.0 put in /etc/modules.conf I've put a # before this for type i810_audio. when you wrote there's no sound, what do you exactely means ? i understood your mail as there was no driver for your sound card. do you mean that: - apps complains that there's no /dev/dsp, and thus cannot play sound ? - apps complains that they cannot open /dev/dsp, and thus cannot play sound ? - the alsa module isn't load ? - the apps seems to play but there's no sound ? KDE didn't produce any sound at the boot XMMS tells: impossible open audio try to check if you use the good module if you card is correctly configurated if any program black the sound card (I traduced this from French to English, so it's no perfect:) I think it's this: - apps complains that they cannot open /dev/dsp, and thus cannot play sound ?
