Re: [Coworking] Re: Seeking recommendations for glass walls/offices

[Maureen Soules]

No, they typically cannot be reconfigured by managers or admins; you need a
trained installer.  The cost you cite is very exaggerated over drywall.
Yes, the initial expense is considerably higher than drywall, but if you
also factor in construction time + office downtime, the cost is more like
3X, not 10X.  And, if you reconfigure two or three times, you've already
recouped any cost difference. What must also be factored in is the cost of
building systems.  Data and electrical are typically plug-and-play, and
lighting can usually be reconfigured by the electrician on the installation
team.  The biggest problems I've seen is the incorporation of sprinkler
heads and code compliance for spacing, and the edition of air supply and
returns, based on local code requirements.

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Jerome Chang 
wrote:

> Right...but are these demountable walls, like by DIRTT, actually feasible
> to re-arrange easily by community managers or administrative types? And
> while they can be paid as furniture, their cost is something like 10x (?)
> more than traditional drywall.
>
> Jerome
> www.BLANKSPACES.com
>
> On Jun 26, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Maureen Soules  wrote:
>
> While a more expensive initial investment, I'd seriously consider a
> product like DIRTT.  Several reasons: First, the product can be depreciated
> like furniture, installation (including electrical work) can happen over a
> weekend or after hours with almost no downtime or disruption to your
> business, and it can be reused and reconfigured as the needs of your office
> space evolve.
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 3:30:21 PM UTC-5, Lauren McDaniel wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm exploring the possibility of adding some glass-walled offices to our
>> coworking space and curious how much these typically cost. I'm looking for
>> enclosed (with door) floor-to-ceiling options since the purpose would be to
>> create more privacy for phone calls. Seeking an option that could fit one
>> desk and another that could fit a desk of four.
>>
>> I'd welcome all suggestions and manufacturers!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren McDaniel
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Seeking recommendations for glass walls/offices

[Jerome Chang]

Right...but are these demountable walls, like by DIRTT, actually feasible to 
re-arrange easily by community managers or administrative types? And while they 
can be paid as furniture, their cost is something like 10x (?) more than 
traditional drywall. 

Jerome
www.BLANKSPACES.com

> On Jun 26, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Maureen Soules  wrote:
> 
> While a more expensive initial investment, I'd seriously consider a product 
> like DIRTT.  Several reasons: First, the product can be depreciated like 
> furniture, installation (including electrical work) can happen over a weekend 
> or after hours with almost no downtime or disruption to your business, and it 
> can be reused and reconfigured as the needs of your office space evolve. 
> 
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 3:30:21 PM UTC-5, Lauren McDaniel wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm exploring the possibility of adding some glass-walled offices to our 
>> coworking space and curious how much these typically cost. I'm looking for 
>> enclosed (with door) floor-to-ceiling options since the purpose would be to 
>> create more privacy for phone calls. Seeking an option that could fit one 
>> desk and another that could fit a desk of four. 
>> 
>> I'd welcome all suggestions and manufacturers! 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren McDaniel 
> 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Seeking recommendations for glass walls/offices

[Jeannine van der Linden]

I would like to second this.  We have glass fronts on the small meeting 
rooms in Amsterdam, primarily for architectural reasons -- Dutch canal 
houses (which is what the Amsterdam location is in) tend to the narrow and 
deep, and get their light and ventilation from one side only. The fishbowl 
effect is therefore magnified.  

Entertainingly, local code requires either partial glass walls, frosted 
glass, or stickers on the glass to avoid people walking into them.  :-)

 
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:15:14 PM UTC+2, Jerome wrote:
>
> I agree x100…if it’s glass all the way around.
> I’ve been using glass on just one wall and the feedback has been 
> excellent. I also use partial height, either lower or upper half.
> Basically, use them judiciously - your wallet will thank you as well
>
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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Chad Ballantyne  > wrote:
>
> Agreed x100
>
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> 705.812.0689
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>
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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Alex Hillman  > wrote:
>
> I'm gonna toss a perspective in here that hasn't been mentioned:
>
> Glass walls *can* look amazing, though I hear from a lot of people that 
> they hate feeling like they're in a fishbowl. I personally think it's a 
> weird architectural hack for trying to bend office-demand into a 
> misunderstood open aesthetic. But that's a longer debate, and for another 
> day.
>
> The bigger issue is that glass walls turn small rooms into *awful* echo 
> monsters. Yes, you can temper it with acoustic treatment, but that's yet 
> another expense on top of the glass. Especially when the goal is to create 
> spaces for phone calls, I'd be doing everything imaginable to get rid of 
> echo'y surfaces. 
>
> Fundamentally, floor to ceiling glass is one of those style trends that I 
> see doing more damage than good. Maybe an unpopular opinion? I'm not sure. 
> I know we ruled them out as a usability concern very early in our 
> renovation.
>
> -Alex
>
>
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> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:09 AM, SphereMail SphereMail  > wrote:
>
>> Tempered glass gets very expensive, Ask for store-front type glass with 
>> aluminum frame around it, it would be a quarter of the tempered glass price.
>>
>> Hasan Mirjan
>> SphereMail.co 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 1:30:21 PM UTC-7, Lauren McDaniel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm exploring the possibility of adding some glass-walled offices to our 
>>> coworking space and curious how much these typically cost. I'm looking for 
>>> enclosed (with door) floor-to-ceiling options since the purpose would be to 
>>> create more privacy for phone calls. Seeking an option that could fit one 
>>> desk and another that could fit a desk of four. 
>>>
>>> I'd welcome all suggestions and manufacturers! 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lauren McDaniel 
>>>
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Seeking recommendations for glass walls/offices

[Lauren McDaniel]

I appreciate everyone weighing in with the different options (and
downsides) related to the glass-walled offices. I am now reconsidering my
original plan.

Thank you!

Lauren

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Jerome Chang 
wrote:

> I agree x100…if it’s glass all the way around.
> I’ve been using glass on just one wall and the feedback has been
> excellent. I also use partial height, either lower or upper half.
> Basically, use them judiciously - your wallet will thank you as well
>
>
> *JEROME CHANG*
>
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> chat w/ us: http://www.BLANKSPACES.com/chat 
>
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> *CENTRAL: Mid-Wilshire* | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea)
> *EAST: Downtown* | 529 S. Broadway, Ste 4000 (@Pershing Square)
>
> On Apr 3, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Chad Ballantyne 
> wrote:
>
> Agreed x100
>
> Chad Ballantyne
> 705.812.0689 <(705)%20812-0689>
> c...@thecreativespace.ca
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
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> Perfect for small businesses, startups and entrepreneurs.
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> Memberships start at $25/mth
> www.thecreativespace.ca
> 705-812-0689
>
> On Apr 3, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Alex Hillman 
> wrote:
>
> I'm gonna toss a perspective in here that hasn't been mentioned:
>
> Glass walls *can* look amazing, though I hear from a lot of people that
> they hate feeling like they're in a fishbowl. I personally think it's a
> weird architectural hack for trying to bend office-demand into a
> misunderstood open aesthetic. But that's a longer debate, and for another
> day.
>
> The bigger issue is that glass walls turn small rooms into *awful* echo
> monsters. Yes, you can temper it with acoustic treatment, but that's yet
> another expense on top of the glass. Especially when the goal is to create
> spaces for phone calls, I'd be doing everything imaginable to get rid of
> echo'y surfaces.
>
> Fundamentally, floor to ceiling glass is one of those style trends that I
> see doing more damage than good. Maybe an unpopular opinion? I'm not sure.
> I know we ruled them out as a usability concern very early in our
> renovation.
>
> -Alex
>
>
> --
> *The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.*
> Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org
> Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com
> My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:09 AM, SphereMail SphereMail 
> wrote:
>
>> Tempered glass gets very expensive, Ask for store-front type glass with
>> aluminum frame around it, it would be a quarter of the tempered glass price.
>>
>> Hasan Mirjan
>> SphereMail.co 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 1:30:21 PM UTC-7, Lauren McDaniel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm exploring the possibility of adding some glass-walled offices to our
>>> coworking space and curious how much these typically cost. I'm looking for
>>> enclosed (with door) floor-to-ceiling options since the purpose would be to
>>> create more privacy for phone calls. Seeking an option that could fit one
>>> desk and another that could fit a desk of four.
>>>
>>> I'd welcome all suggestions and manufacturers!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lauren McDaniel
>>>
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Seeking recommendations for glass walls/offices

[Jerome Chang]

I agree x100…if it’s glass all the way around.
I’ve been using glass on just one wall and the feedback has been excellent. I 
also use partial height, either lower or upper half.
Basically, use them judiciously - your wallet will thank you as well


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chat w/ us:  <>http://www.BLANKSPACES.com/chat 

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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Chad Ballantyne  wrote:
> 
> Agreed x100
> 
> Chad Ballantyne
> 705.812.0689
> c...@thecreativespace.ca 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Barrie's Coworking Community
> Perfect for small businesses, startups and entrepreneurs.
> 12 Dunlop St E, Barrie Ontario, L4M 1A3
> Memberships start at $25/mth
> www.thecreativespace.ca 
> 705-812-0689 
>> On Apr 3, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Alex Hillman > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm gonna toss a perspective in here that hasn't been mentioned:
>> 
>> Glass walls can look amazing, though I hear from a lot of people that they 
>> hate feeling like they're in a fishbowl. I personally think it's a weird 
>> architectural hack for trying to bend office-demand into a misunderstood 
>> open aesthetic. But that's a longer debate, and for another day.
>> 
>> The bigger issue is that glass walls turn small rooms into awful echo 
>> monsters. Yes, you can temper it with acoustic treatment, but that's yet 
>> another expense on top of the glass. Especially when the goal is to create 
>> spaces for phone calls, I'd be doing everything imaginable to get rid of 
>> echo'y surfaces. 
>> 
>> Fundamentally, floor to ceiling glass is one of those style trends that I 
>> see doing more damage than good. Maybe an unpopular opinion? I'm not sure. I 
>> know we ruled them out as a usability concern very early in our renovation.
>> 
>> -Alex
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.
>> Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org 
>> Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com 
>> 
>> My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten 
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:09 AM, SphereMail SphereMail > > wrote:
>> Tempered glass gets very expensive, Ask for store-front type glass with 
>> aluminum frame around it, it would be a quarter of the tempered glass price.
>> 
>> Hasan Mirjan
>> SphereMail.co 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 1:30:21 PM UTC-7, Lauren McDaniel wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm exploring the possibility of adding some glass-walled offices to our 
>> coworking space and curious how much these typically cost. I'm looking for 
>> enclosed (with door) floor-to-ceiling options since the purpose would be to 
>> create more privacy for phone calls. Seeking an option that could fit one 
>> desk and another that could fit a desk of four. 
>> 
>> I'd welcome all suggestions and manufacturers! 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren McDaniel 
>> 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Seeking recommendations for glass walls/offices

[Chad Ballantyne]

Agreed x100

Chad Ballantyne
705.812.0689
c...@thecreativespace.ca







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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Alex Hillman  wrote:
> 
> I'm gonna toss a perspective in here that hasn't been mentioned:
> 
> Glass walls can look amazing, though I hear from a lot of people that they 
> hate feeling like they're in a fishbowl. I personally think it's a weird 
> architectural hack for trying to bend office-demand into a misunderstood open 
> aesthetic. But that's a longer debate, and for another day.
> 
> The bigger issue is that glass walls turn small rooms into awful echo 
> monsters. Yes, you can temper it with acoustic treatment, but that's yet 
> another expense on top of the glass. Especially when the goal is to create 
> spaces for phone calls, I'd be doing everything imaginable to get rid of 
> echo'y surfaces. 
> 
> Fundamentally, floor to ceiling glass is one of those style trends that I see 
> doing more damage than good. Maybe an unpopular opinion? I'm not sure. I know 
> we ruled them out as a usability concern very early in our renovation.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> --
> The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.
> Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org 
> Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com 
> 
> My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten 
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:09 AM, SphereMail SphereMail  > wrote:
> Tempered glass gets very expensive, Ask for store-front type glass with 
> aluminum frame around it, it would be a quarter of the tempered glass price.
> 
> Hasan Mirjan
> SphereMail.co 
> 
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 1:30:21 PM UTC-7, Lauren McDaniel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm exploring the possibility of adding some glass-walled offices to our 
> coworking space and curious how much these typically cost. I'm looking for 
> enclosed (with door) floor-to-ceiling options since the purpose would be to 
> create more privacy for phone calls. Seeking an option that could fit one 
> desk and another that could fit a desk of four. 
> 
> I'd welcome all suggestions and manufacturers! 
> 
> Thanks,
> Lauren McDaniel 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Seeking recommendations for glass walls/offices

[Alex Hillman]

I'm gonna toss a perspective in here that hasn't been mentioned:

Glass walls *can* look amazing, though I hear from a lot of people that
they hate feeling like they're in a fishbowl. I personally think it's a
weird architectural hack for trying to bend office-demand into a
misunderstood open aesthetic. But that's a longer debate, and for another
day.

The bigger issue is that glass walls turn small rooms into *awful* echo
monsters. Yes, you can temper it with acoustic treatment, but that's yet
another expense on top of the glass. Especially when the goal is to create
spaces for phone calls, I'd be doing everything imaginable to get rid of
echo'y surfaces.

Fundamentally, floor to ceiling glass is one of those style trends that I
see doing more damage than good. Maybe an unpopular opinion? I'm not sure.
I know we ruled them out as a usability concern very early in our
renovation.

-Alex


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On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:09 AM, SphereMail SphereMail 
wrote:

> Tempered glass gets very expensive, Ask for store-front type glass with
> aluminum frame around it, it would be a quarter of the tempered glass price.
>
> Hasan Mirjan
> SphereMail.co
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 1:30:21 PM UTC-7, Lauren McDaniel wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm exploring the possibility of adding some glass-walled offices to our
>> coworking space and curious how much these typically cost. I'm looking for
>> enclosed (with door) floor-to-ceiling options since the purpose would be to
>> create more privacy for phone calls. Seeking an option that could fit one
>> desk and another that could fit a desk of four.
>>
>> I'd welcome all suggestions and manufacturers!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren McDaniel
>>
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