Re: [CTRL] TheTavistock Institute:Hidden Architects of Global Brainwashing Thought Control-The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations
-Caveat Lector- This attack on Tavistock comes only from one John Coleman, and is full of claims that various major institutions in the U.S. are totally controlled by Tavistock, for evil of course, because people who once had some connection to Tavistock then went to those institutions. Coleman is a far rightwinger. Here are some of the things that he says are evil, in this article http://www.barefootsworld.net/tavistok.html the `squalid consequences of the 60s radicals in SDS' as resulting in `the growing rate of illegitimacy, petty lawlessness, drug addiction, welfare, VD, and mental illness'. all so-called `sensitivity groups' or `T-groups,' or in the more extreme rock-drug-sex count-erculture form, `touchy-feely groups,' such as the kind popularized from the 1960s onward by the Esalen Institute making use of drugs a non-criminal offense, legalizing homosexuality The pioneering psychologist R.D. Laing worked at Tavistock. He wrote the wonderful book _The Politics of Experience_, which teaches that mentally ill people should be listened to instead of being drugged into a stupor, and that they will then often recover and live more happily than before their illness, which was actually a transition and growth experience. http://www.amazon.com/Politics-Experience-R-D-Laing/dp/039471475X/ref=sr_1_1/102-5000288-8440938?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1177628806sr=1-1 On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 02:40:32PM -0700, Skinny wrote: The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations From Ken Adachi Editor http://educate-yourself.org/cn/tavistockarticlesindex04jun04.shtml June 4, 2004 The authoritative expose of the greatest brainwashing organization to ever exist in the course of human history is now revealed in Dr. John Coleman's latest book, The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations: Shaping the Moral, Cultural, Political, and Economic Decline of the United States of America. The Tavistock Institute is located in the City of London and at Sussex University in England. Dr. John Coleman, former intelligence officer with Britain's MI6 and author of Conspirators Hierarchy, The Committee of 300, was one of the the first writers to bring the world's attention to the existence of Tavistock, hitherto unknown to press and pundits alike, in a monograph published in 1969. Since his initial 1969 revelations concerning the pivotal role that Tavistock plays in shaping political, social, educational, and economic 'opinions', especially in the United States, more than a few writers of global conspiracy have attempted to place laurels upon their shoulders for revelations about Tavistock's key influence as the Mother of all Propaganda Ministries, while ignoring the fact that this pioneering work was first published by John Coleman. Dr. Coleman's new book, however, leaves no doubt as to who is the master and who are the students when it comes to the subject of Tavistock. The book is stunning in the new knowledge that it reveals about the hidden role of British oligarchs to shape and control public opinion in order to manipulate the British public (and later the American public) into accepting the notion that war with Germany was necessary in order to secure a lasting peace. The plan to 'create' public opinion began in 1913 as a propaganda factory centered at Wellington House in London. Sir Edward Grey, the British Foreign Secretary at the time, installed Lord Northcliffe (Britain's most influential newspaper magnate) as its director. Lord Northcliffe's position was over sighted by Lord Rothmere on behalf of the British Crown. The operational staff of Wellington House consisted of Lord Northcliffe, Arnold Toynbee (future director of studies at the Royal Institute of International Affairs), and the Americans, Walter Lippmann and Edward Benays (nephew to Signund Freud). Funding was initially provided by the Royal family, but soon to include the Rothchilds (related to Lord Northcliffe by marriage) and the Rockefellers. Wellington House would grow into the Tavistock Institute in 1921 after the propaganda victories of the First World War and the Federal Reserve banking system (created in 1913) had been secured. To be continued... I predict that this book will earn for Dr. Coleman greater critical recognition and accolades than that achieved by The Committee of 300, which many had assumed was Dr. Coleman's masterwork. That is no longer the case. This book is Dr. John Coleman's most important work to date. After reading it, you will no longer have any doubts about WHO is manipulating you with every available communication technology known to mankind, WHY they are manipulating you, and HOW they are manipulating you into a One World fascist tyranny. There are THREE choices for
Re: [CTRL] lizards in the white house
-Caveat Lector- Thanks, Mary, this looks great! Note that you have to go to the Services page of the website to download the novel. On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 08:44:48AM -0700, Mary Q wrote: Talk about your conspiracy theories! What species would knowingly wipe out its own kind, destroy its habitat, change its environment to one inhospitable to its own survival needs, and convince the members of its population that their lives would be better if they were all dead? Answer: none. It goes against basic survival instincts. Yet do not these seem to be the policies of GW Bush? Dick Cheney? Donald Rumsfeld, Pat Robertson, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and the rest of the neo conservatives that are steering the juggernaut of state faster and faster down the path to the abyss called Armageddon, and taking all humanity along with them? Haven't you asked yourself time and again what kind of insanity drives these people? Haven't you wondered if they truly can be too stupid and short sighted to see the consequences of their actions, or if there is some other hidden agenda? Perhaps the question you should ask is, are they really members of our species at all? I have a new novel which answers that question. It is available for free online at http://www.freeoriginalbooks.com. It's title: Lizards in The White House, Part One. I'm currently working on part two, and hopefully will be allowed to complete it by this coming Christmas. I'll be adding it then, along with other published and unpublished works of mine as I find time to get them on. A second offering, Once Upon Europa is already there. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AOL IS POLITICALLY CENSORING E-MAILS
-Caveat Lector- AOL is politically censoring the e-mails addressed to its customers. There is no way for AOL users to turn off the censorship (e.g. by adjusting their nanny filter or whatever) and receive all of their e-mails. The censored messages are simply thrown away (bounced) as soon as AOL receives them. If you are using AOL as your Internet service provider [ISP], web host, or mailing-list server, you should switch to a different company immediately! If you are worried about missing e-mails if you switch to a different ISP, because the address people know for you is [EMAIL PROTECTED], you should get your own Internet domain, which you can then point to any mail address (and any web host) you want (and you can change them at any time). Thereafter you can change ISPs and web hosts with impunity (after sending your new address -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- once to all your friends and lists you're subscribed to). Your domain mail address will then be independent of your ISP and will never change; I am [EMAIL PROTECTED] no matter what ISP I'm using. A domain only costs about $10/year (note: you must pay that every year or you will lose the domain), and e-mail forwarding only about $2 or $3/month. Do a Google search for email forwarding for instructions. See below for details of AOL's political censorship: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:49:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [cia-drugs] RoadsEnd's is always bouncing ... My posting to lists is being very much hampered. Even though I am owner, none of my post have shown up for several days to my yahoo groups even my [EMAIL PROTECTED] group. Note that Millegan ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is using AOL as his ISP, and also as his mailing-list server (for his list CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM). For at least a year, AOL has been discarding all e-mails containing -- in the text of the e-mail -- URLs of websites about which AOL has received complaints. Presumably these complaints come from Bush supporters, the U.S. government, zionists, internal AOL political censors etc. I often get bounce messages from the lists I run, saying that particular e-mails have been thrown away and not delivered to any of the AOL recipients on the list. These bounce messages contain a code 554. I've included an example bounce message below, from Jan 3, 2006, featuring Millegan and another AOL customer. The AOL web page -- 554hvub1.html -- mentioned in the bounce messages says, There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. There is no way for AOL users to turn off this political censorship and receive the e-mails addressed to them. AOL deletes the messages as soon as it receives them. AOL's billionaire CEO Steve Case is a known fascist. The second Google hit on him is this article from a fascist/zionist propaganda site, proudly telling how he donated money to an anti-gay church, and lamenting that people are angry at him for it: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21284 No one should use AOL as their ISP, mailing-list server, or website host. If you are doing so, you should switch to another company immediately! AOL should not be used by anyone for any purpose. A telemarketer from AOL called me up last year and said I should use their service. I told him about AOL's political censorship. He said to me, AOL is a family Internet service. Our customers don't need to know about political websites. Here is an example AOL censorship bounce message; I have hundreds of them. Radio4houston.org is the server for the mailing-lists that I run; it doesn't censor anything. That server is reporting to me the rejection messages that AOL sent to it when it tried to send a perfectly good list e-mail to AOL users who are list members. ] Hi. This is the qmail-send program at radio4houston.org. ] I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. ] This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. ] ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ] 205.188.159.217 failed after I sent the message. ] Remote host said: 554-: (HVU:B1) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html ] 554 TRANSACTION FAILED ] ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ] 64.12.137.249 failed after I sent the message. ] Remote host said: 554-: (HVU:B1) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html ] 554 TRANSACTION FAILED ] ] --- Below this line is a copy of the message. ] ... Mark www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the
Re: [CTRL] ANWR wins a 1, 2 3 punch in the Congress!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- Does this mean that Bacon will get a big bonus from whatever petroleum thugs have been paying him to write this shit for all these years? On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 05:24:59AM -0500, William A. Bacon wrote: -Caveat Lector- back to anwr.org ANWR Wins One, Two, Three Punch! Legislative victories on opening ANWR are on their way to Congressional success with three crucial victories from votes in the US Senate. A provision to allow for responsible oil and gas exploration in the 10-02 Area of the Coastal Plain of ANWR was added to the Budget Process due to the $2.4 billion estimate from lease sale revenues the federal government would gain in the first two years after Presidential signature. The US Senate began voting on the Budget Reconciliation Bill (S. 1932) Thursday morning, starting with a daylong slew of amendments. The Cantwell Amendment (S.2358) by Washington Senator Maria Cantwell (long an opponent of environmentally responsible development in ANWR) became the first success. The amendment was a motion to strike ANWR language from the Budget Bill and that was defeated by pro-ANWR forces 51-48 (1 non-voting) lead by the Senior Senator from Alaska Ted Stevens and Alaskas Senator Lisa Murkowski. The vote took place at about 11am and was viewed from the Senate galleries by a large delegation of Alaskan Inupiat from the North Slope who had spent the entire week in D.C. working the issue in the Halls of Congress. The vote very nearly mirrored the same amendment put forth in the Spring this year again by Cantwell which was defeated 51-49. Soon after the Wyden Amendment to ban exports of Alaskan oil (S2362) was passed 83-16 (1 not- voting) with little problems. Senators Stevens and Murkowski (R-AK) voted with the bill after clarification that it was not subject to the Byrd Rule and thus could not be used to hang up future Budget proceedings. The Byrd Rule is a Senate practice that no non-budgetary items can be passed in the Budget process. The Senates afternoon continued on a vote-a-rama of amendments to the grand finale Budget Reconciliation Bill (S. 1932 (Deficit Reduction Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 2005). That was passed just after 6pm with a vote of 52-47 (1 non voting) leading to ANWRs future path open to meet the House Budget Reconciliation Bill in Conference sometime in the beginning of December. Overall it was a stellar hat trick for ANWR and all those who have fought so hard for it! But the victory was made just the more sweet by the defeat of a little known last ditch effort Senator Cantwell and environmentalist forces made in the early afternoon. Cantwell submitted an obscure and technically bizarre amendment S.2400 to ensure the payment to the Treasury of the United States of 50 percent of revenues from oil and gas leasing and production on the Coastal Plain yet framed in potential hang-ups with future legal suits waged against ANWR development. Senator Stevens called the amendment just another backdoor attempt to scuttle future ANWR development by environmentalists. A vote of 51-48 sent Cantwell and her second monkey wrench packing. The House of Representatives will begin deliberation on their version of the Budget Reconciliation Bill next week and possibly vote on it then. The two versions will be reconciled in a joint Conference Committee in approximately three weeks time. The votes for Thursday are as follows: Cantwell Amendment 2358 Motion to Strike ANWR drilling provision from the Budget Reconciliation Bill NAYS (51) Akaka (D-HI) Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Inouye (D-HI) Isakson (R-GA) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Roberts (R-KS) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) YEAS (48) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Dorgan (D-ND) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) McCain (R-AZ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR) NOT VOTING Corzine (D-NJ) Wyden
[CTRL] Taking Aim Bulletin October 29, 2005
-Caveat Lector- From: Taking Aim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contents: 1. Our next program 2. Lynne Stewart defense alert 3. Joan Mellen, author of A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK's Assassination, and the Case That Should Have Changed History, to be interviewed on WBAI's Law and Disorder program. 1. Taking Aim with Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone returns to regular broadcast this Tuesday, November 1, 5:00 p.m. ET and 2:00 p.m. PT WBAI-NY 99.5 FM and http://www.wbai.org for live Internet stream. Our topic: The Hidden Agenda of the Fitzgerald Indictments --- 2. Lynne Stewart defense update: Judge Koeltl upheld the verdict against Lynne Stewart. (The judge also upheld the verdicts against the two other defendants, Ahmed Abdel Sattar and Mohamed Yousry) In a 54-page ruling that recounted key evidence, U.S. District Judge John G. Koeltl rejected all of Lynne Stewart's arguments that the Feb. 10 verdict should be tossed out. In a separate ruling Judge Koeltl also rejected defense request for a new trial based on allegations that one juror lied about his past and that another juror had been unduly pressured to reach her verdict. These decisions clear the way for the sentencing now scheduled for December 22. SAVE THE DATE December 8, 7 p.m., a Speak Out and Forum on Lynne Stewart's case will be held at The Community Church of New York. Details and participants to be announced. The Defense Committee has a new DVD, The Struggle Continues for a $10 donation; T-Shirts for $15.00; as well as the NLG booklet: The Case of Lynne Stewart, a Justice Dept. Attack on the Bill of Rights. Available via the website http://www.lynnestewart.org, 212-625-9696 or write [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- 3. Joan Mellen will discuss her compelling investigation and book, A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK's Assassination, and the Case That Should Have Changed History, again on WBAI. Tune in to Law and Disorder, Monday, November 7 at 10:00 a.m. You can receive a copy of Joan Mellen compelling book, when you contributing online on the WBAI website, http://www.wbai.org, then follow the links to the premium offerings. The particular page with A Farewell to Justice is https://www.wbai.org/cart/default.php?cPath=50osCsid=4b2fca5b0600ec5c8ad16a 35bc38d5d3 - Another review of the book follows. A Farewell to Justice by Joan Mellen Amazon.com Reader Response:Eddie Kasica (New York City) * (five star-top rating) Saint Joan, October 27, 2005 The United States of America has never truly had its equivalent of Zola's J'Accuse! Until now. While the Dreyfus Affair is a joke compared to the far-reaching PERMANENT effects of the National Security State execution of President John F. Kennedy(don't think they're permanent? -- pick up the damn newspaper), quite a few books on the crime have been labeled Zolaesque: Rush to Judgement, Weisberg's Whitewash, Sylvia Meagher's Accessories After the Fact(a worthy forerunner of Farewell to Justice -- Meagher and Mellon are sisters of heart, toughness and understanding), Anthony Summers's Conspiracy and, of course, Gerald Posner's Case Closed(just kidding). But they weren't. Not even close, because they couldn't be. The cover-up of the crime continued well into the 1990s and -- like the film or not -- it was Stone's JFK which caused the break in the dam. The wave of the past 10 years, beginning with the publication and media-embrace of the malignant Case Closed, has been intensely anti-conspiracy. As all of U.S. society has seemingly moved toward the worship of power for power's sake, leading to the establishment of the Bush Reich, anti-conspiracy ideology has become its own form of totalitarianism. In the power-saturated universe of Millennial America, seething with plots, anti-plot pronouncements have become as necessary as squeals in a slaughterhouse. But, there has been a counterwave. And it's now tidal. More fresh evidence regarding 11/22/63 has become available these past years than was available to the Warren Commission, Jim Garrison or the House Assassinations Committee when they were conducting their investigations or cover-ups. We have had to be patient, and now it's pay-off time. Christopher Lawford on the family, Gareth Porter on JFK and Vietnam, Bradley Ayers and Richard Whalen on Kennedy and Cuba, Gerald McKnight on the Warren Commission, and David Talbot's coming book on Bobby and the murder(`though the Mellen book may have made that release somewhat compromised). Farewell to Justice is the book we have all been waiting for, since the day the music died. Joan Mellen has always been one of the world's best film critics, a magnificent biographer(Kay Boyle, Marilyn Monroe Bobby Knight!), and a great writing teacher. Now she has broken the case. There's no guessing here. No theoretical chapters on the validity of the Zapruder Film, the DalTex Building vs. a sewer drain opening, no jacket holes or bullet fragments. Just the moment-by-moment narrative of what happened to Jack Kennedy 42
[CTRL] Tues Oct 11, 3pm ET- Special Taking Aim Broadcast: New JFK Evidence
-Caveat Lector- Special Taking Aim Broadcast: October 11, 2005 - Compelling New Evidence on the JFK Assassination Tuesday, October 11, 3:00 to 6:00 p.m. ET (noon to 3:00 p.m. PT) WBAI-NY, 99.5 FM, http://www.wbai.org for real-time Internet stream New evidence establishing the role of the CIA in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Discussion with Joan Mellen, author of _A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK's assassination and the case that should have changed history_, published by Potomac Books. The book is our Fund Drive premium for your $125 contribution to WBAI. Exceptional book, compelling new evidence - a must for your library. Over seven years, Joan Mellen interviewed over 1000 people, many of them coming forward for the first time, and analyzed documents from the National Assassination Archive. With precision and insight, Mellen moves on from a review of the evidence compiled by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison to uncovering new evidence that substantiates the role of the CIA in the assassination and its cover-up. Mellen interviewed the actual participants in the plot to kill JFK, documented their meetings, plans and their implementation. A taste of what is new in this book and what will be discussed during the fund drive special: * Lee Harvey Oswald was not a loner but a government agent who worked for the CIA, the New Orleans FBI office and for U.S. Customs. Oswald was closely connected to CIA-sponsored anti-Castro figures in New Orleans, including Clay Shaw (who Garrison prosecuted), David Ferrie and a Cuban associate of Shaw's at the International Trade Mart named Juan Valdes. * Clay Shaw and David Ferrie, both Garrison suspects and CIA operatives, implemented the assassination by helping frame Oswald as the murderer. Mellen proves for the first time that Ferrie, an aviator, flew to Dallas the week of the assassination with the help of a loan that was co-signed by Shaw. Ferrie's job was to fly the assassins away to safety late on Friday, November 22nd. * Proof that Oswald was set up as a patsy. Thomas Edward Beckham, was trained at CIA to be the patsy should Oswald choose not to cooperate. * Robert Kennedy was aware of Oswald and his connection to the FBI before the assassination. RFK put Oswald under surveillance and had his Cuban associates tracking Oswald's movements during the summer of 1963, new facts never before revealed. * Proof that the cover-up began north of Baton Rouge before the shooting in Dallas when Oswald, in the company of Shaw and Ferrie, applied for a job at the mental hospital in Jackson, LA. Mellen has the only known interview with the director of the hospital at that time, Dr. Frank Silva. * The FBI, including Deep Throat Mark Felt, undermined the Garrison investigation. Government documents reveal that the FBI and CIA worked actively with a number of journalists who covered the Garrison investigation, including reporters with Newsweek and The Saturday Evening Post, as well as a government operative ostensibly employed by NBC television. An FBI document reveals J. Edgar Hoover directing his field offices to tell Garrison nothing! Joan Mellen, Temple University professor and author, is well-known for her biographies of Lillian Hellman and Dashiell Hammett, Kay Boyle, Marilyn Monroe and Bob Knight. She has written seventeen books and has contributed to the Baltimore Sun, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, and Philadelphia Inquirer, among many publications. In 2004, Temple University awarded her one of their most coveted Great Teacher awards, for outstanding achievement, in particular in the graduate writing program. *** www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Galloway-Hitchens Debate on C-SPAN2 9AM PT This Morning - Sunday 9/18
-Caveat Lector- The George Galloway/Christopher Hitchens debate will be televised on CSPAN-2 BookTV at these times, according to the message below: Sun Sept 18 noon EST-- Shown on the cspan.org website. Mon Sept 19 5:30am EST -- Not shown on the website. Since only the 9/18 9am PT/noon ET showing is listed on the CSPAN website, if you want it, you should record it then. Forwarded message - Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:03:38 -0400 From: Pamela Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hitchens-Galloway Debate tonight! The George Galloway/Christopher Hitchens Debate last Wednesday was great! Hitchens had quite a following that turned out at Baruch, which was sold out, and I think all the streams were full. People listened on the internet from all over the world. I think they said they had about 500 in the chat room at one point. It will be televised on CSPAN 2 BookTV this weekend. Here's the schedule: Sun Sept 18 noon EST Mon Sept 19 5:30am EST www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FBI raids Minneapolis City Council member's house, Green Party member candidate for re-election
-Caveat Lector- Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActionGreens] FBI raids Green City Council candidate in Minnesota Green Minneapolis City Councilman Dean Zimmermann's house was raided and his computers, files, financial records(campaign and personal) and campaign literature are all being reported to have been confiscated and may include sample ballots for the 10 Green candidates in Minneapolis paid for by the Minneapolis/5th Congressional District Local and being distributed from Dean's home as a central location with nearly always someone from his campaign available. Dean's home has been the staging ground for much of the networking efforts between our 10 green party campaigns in the city and with the primary next Tues. this(whatever this is) is coming down at a very inopportune time and some suspect it to be political motivated. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. The FBI agents would only say that the affidavit was sealed and that they were unable to let anyone know why the home was being searched. I'm sure myself and the MN delegates can keep the national committee informed as further information becomes available. David Strand The story on the FBI search of Dean Zimmermann's home and campaign materials is in the Star Tribune tomorrow. http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5604473.html Betsy Barnum Minneapolis http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5604473.html Last update: September 8, 2005 at 6:16 PM Feds search Minneapolis Council member's home Rochelle Olson, Star Tribune September 9, 2005 ZIMM0909 Federal agents executed a search warrant at the home of Minneapolis City Council member Dean Zimmermann today. Zimmermann, a Green party member who is seeking re-election, was not available for comment, but his campaign manager, Lauren Maker, said the agents spent three hours at his home. Maker said the agents confiscated everything relating to Zimmermann's campaign, including financial records and a pre-primary mailing in process. Maker said the agents told her the affidavit attached to the warrant was sealed, so she was unable to explain the purpose of the search. But Maker also said the agents took Zimmermann's personal financial records as well. Zimmermann, a first term council member, is seeking re-election and because of redistricting is in the same ward as council vice president Robert Lilligren, a DFLer. Dean ZimmermannThey shut down the campaign, Maker said. It's politically motivated. Maker said she drew that conclusion because of the timing five days before the primary. - Rochelle Olson is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wcco.com live tv coverage of FBI raid can be seen at http://wcco.com/video/?cid=5 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone in person in SF, Wed. Aug 31
-Caveat Lector- Please mark your calendars, tell your friends and co-workers, and post widely. Pacifica Radio programmers Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone - in person - present: The London Bombings: The Footprints of State Terror Wednesday, August 31, 7:00 to 10:00 p.m., at the Women's Building, 3543 18th Street near Valencia, San Francisco. Come hear the definitive expose' of the role of British, U.S. and Israeli intelligence in planning, carrying out and concealing the London bombings as a prelude to such attacks in the United States. Join us in revealing the preparations for military rule under the Northern Command. We document and analyze the relationship between foreign and domestic intelligence operations, The War on Terror, and the economic problems of everyday Americans. $10.00 donation at the door. No one turned away for lack of funds. Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone produce Taking Aim, heard weekly on Pacifica's WBAI in New York, and archived at www.takingaim.info Ralph Schoenman was Secretary General of the International Tribunal on U.S. War Crimes in Indochina. He was a leader of the anti-nuclear movement in Great Britain, negotiated the release of political prisoners in many countries and has lectured widely on the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. Mya Shone is an economist and has a long history as an activist involved in political, community and labor issues. She worked closely with both Casa Nicaragua and Casa El Salvador during the struggles taking place in Central America and was the coordinator of the Tri-County (Santa Barbara, Ventura, San Luis Obispo) Labor Party chapter. She was also a newscaster and reporter at KPFK in Los Angeles. For more information or interviews: Contact Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone at 707-552-9992 Calendar listing: The London Bombings: The Footprints of State Terror. Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone analyze the relationship between foreign and domestic intelligence operations, The War on Terror, and the economic problems of everyday Americans. Wednesday, August 31, 7:00 - 10:00 p.m., Women's Building 3543 18th St., near Valencia, San Francisco. For more information contact: 707.552.9992. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Debt Conspiracy and Economic Crash
-Caveat Lector- Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:59:42 +0700 From: President, USA Exile Govt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Crashing Down on Top of Us Forwarded with Compliments of Government of the USA in Exile (GUSAE): Free Americans Proclaiming Total Emancipation and Working Towards Democracy. FYI, please read and get a plan in place to ensure the viability of your community through self-sufficiency and cooperative interdependence. You must have a local monetary system in place to do this. It is later than you think. ACT NOW. From: Reinhold Ziegler Date: 06/07/05 21:59:26 To: ecopilgrim Subject: A MUST-READ: The Financial Endgame Slowly Plays Out - and then... http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/053105_world_stories.shtml http://www.safehaven.com/article-3134.htm This article first appeared on www.clivemaund.com The Financial Endgame Slowly Plays Out - and Then... By Nigel Maund May 27, 2005 the Sudden Systemic Implosion which will usher in the Brave New World Capitalism requires people to be quiet souls in the workplace and wild pagans at the cash register. - Ron Chernow, 1949, US Journalist Amongst the growing plethora of warnings--some erudite, some emotional-- Mr. Paul Volcker's commentary in the Washington Post entitled, The Economy on Thin Ice, of April 10th, has to be taken very seriously, given the former's position as Chairman of the Fed from 1979 to 1987, when he was succeeded by Alan Greenspan. Volcker was forced into making very tough economic decisions in 1980, which he did by raising interest rates sharply to cool a vastly overheated market. Volcker acted as the Fed Chairman should, responsibly, and, therefore, like few other market commentators has immense gravitas when he flags up major economic issues as he has done. However, the magnitude of the present Fed Chairman's problems are on a hitherto unimaginable scale. No country, or central bank, has ever attempted an exercise in FIAT money creation of such truly breathtaking proportions before. Moreover, no exercise in FIAT money creation has ever successfully worked over the long-term in any nation where it has been attempted. Before the post WW2 acceptance of the US dollar as a proxy global currency, no country has had the unique opportunity to try such an exercise out on a global scale. Dr Greenspan knows this. So, you may well ask, what on earth is he up to? and, equally importantly, why is it being done? It is easy to caste Dr Greenspan as the befuddled Mr McGoo leading America to economic and financial ruin. However, such a denigration of this man's abilities is entirely misleading and dangerously erroneous. The Fed has some of the finest financial and economic brains on the planet. Therefore, the more acceptable answer as to why the (digital) US$ money base has been exploded on an astronomic scale has to centre on it being a part of a globally based economic and political strategy. The fact that this strategy has not been spelled out to the world at large implies a hidden agenda, and, furthermore, a conspiracy. Whilst the conspiracy theory of history is mocked by the media as the realm of scaremongers, the ignorant and the naïve, anyone who has merely studied the history of Britain's Kings and Queens, over the last 1,000 years, will readily see that conspiracies were very much part of court life, national government and Britain's international policy. Nothing has changed. Indeed, with the advent of widespread literacy, modern media and information technology, the obfuscation of, and power to corrupt facts has been raised to a new and more sophisticated plane. Baking the news cake for palatable reception and consumption is an art form perfected for specific markets, based on the cultural and educational profile of the local, national or even international consumer. CNN, CNBC, NBC and Fox News are little more than propaganda organisations serving up a daily McNews for the generally poorly read and travelled, culturally naïve, and generally poorly educated US consumer, on the basis that those who eat junk, drink junk, read junk, watch junk and listen to junk deserve, well... just more junk? Mr. Hitler and Dr Goebbels would have been heartily jealous of such a malleable and docile, if not to say almost bovine populace, who could readily absorb such shallow rubbish and believe it all! Unfortunately, the insidious US-style media is polluting the planet in the global attempt to produce a dumbed down, ignorant, poorly educated and malleable global serfdom, hooked on trashy TV and video entertainments and other such puerile nonsense, and moreover, up to their necks in debt and easy credit. Again, one is led to ask why? Aren't we living in the enlightened 21st Century?. or, are we regressing to type, as demonstrated over thousands of years of human suffering at the hands of our own dubious species? Over the past four years, since the
[CTRL] Daniel Hopsicker's Globalist PRopaganda Program
-Caveat Lector- Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:00:02 -0800 Subject: re Lois's clip From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lois: On Michael Reagan's show in 1997, he said that he produced a program for NBC called Global Business for 7-8 years. This means, as I read it, that he produced a weekly show that appeared on NBC for years. Tell me: Did he say anything else with that statement? Was he hiding anything behind rhetorical technicalities? So the show began in 1989-90, and it was on the tube every week ... this is the impression that he gave viewers of Reagan's program (one that I would never, ever appear on, BTW, though we makes our choices and live with them) And I still don't see anything on Inside Wall Street. On what network did it air? - AC From: Linda Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: From Nexis - no transcripts but postings do exist -- notice these are from 1996 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:19:19 -0600 - Original Message - From: Lois Ann Battuello To: Linda Minor Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: From Nexis - no transcripts but postings do exist -- notice these are from 1996 Copyright 1996 Haymarket Publishing Services Ltd PR Week January 26, 1996 LENGTH: 131 words HEADLINE: Media: Medialink wins NBC exclusive BODY: Medialink has been appointed as the exclusive provider of video news releases to Global Business 2000, the business television show which launches this month on NBC's satellite services covering Asia and Europe. The deal, struck with the show's US-based production company Economic Television, will see Medialink provide the programme with any appropriate VNRs' suitable for the show's business audience, said Medialink's vice chairman David Davis. The show's launch is part of NBC's revamp of its international programme service and the formal launch of NBC Asia on 15 January. NBC, which is already available in Europe through NBC Super Channel, has launched both an entertainment station and a 24-hour news and business station under the NBC Asia banner. -- Copyright 1996 M2 Communications Ltd. M2 PRESSWIRE April 10, 1996 LENGTH: 209 words HEADLINE: ECONOMIC TELEVISION Millions view WebCruise on TV news as JumpCity! launches DATELINE: LOS ANGELES, CA HIGHLIGHT: New primetime TV show about the Internet to debut BODY: Millions of consumers this weekend watched a first-ever three minute feature news segment called WebCruise! which showcased three popular sites on the World Wide Web, bringing pictures of the wired revolution to watchers of network news. WebCruise was our way of testing the waters with TV news directors, who really have a finger on the pulse of what people want. They jumped on this story, and it really reinforces our belief that this is THE time to launch our Primetime reality-based entertainment series about the Internet, stated JumpCity! producer Daniel Hopsicker. We think the Internet's the biggest consumer phenomenon since the hula hoop, and it clearly deserves a show conveying the gleeful fun and sheer joy of 'cyberpilots' worldwide. WebCruise will be a weekly feature, both going to satellite as news, and playing as a segment on Global Business 2000, which airs on NBC internationally, as well as inflight on flagship carriers like United and USAir. Its designer to help consumers learn of great sites to access, and allow marketers to generate more traffic to their World Wide Web sites. CONTACT: Daniel Hopsicker, Economic Television Tel: +1-800-264-0920 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:33:08 -0800 Subject: Re: My Message About Hopsicker's Smear Of Ruppert From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Medialink has been appointed as the exclusive provider of video news releases to [Daniel Hopsicker's] Global Business 2000... Kris: Now that we have one show verified, at least, I can look into it, and that's what I wanted to do originally, so let's get to it... Who provided Hopsicker with his material? A fucking PR firm with heavy propaganda ties. --- Medialink wins NBC exclusive, Medialink has been appointed as the exclusive provider of video news releases to [Daniel Hopsicker's] Global Business 2000... Public diplomacy. Public relations. FORMER BBC BROADCASTER LUCY HADFIELD TAKES HELM OF MEDIALINK LONDON OFFICE PR Agency Veteran Jones Joins Medialink Management Team As Vice Chairman For more information: Mary C. Buhay Matt Burgess Senior Vice PresidentGroup Marketing Manager Corporate CommunicationsMedialink Worldwide Medialink Worldwide Incorporated Tel: +44 (0)20 7554 2787 Tel:
Re: [CTRL] [cia-drugs] Fwd: constantine
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Kris, did Alex Constantine send you his criticism of Hopsicker so that you could post it on your lists, as you have posted his many articles on Khashoggi Co. during these past weeks? If so, I think you should let us see it. While you are Hopsicker's associate, as I found when I dialed the phone number on his madcowprod.com website whois record and found myself talking with you 8^), Constantine is a very knowledgeable and highly regarded researcher, and intellectual honesty should compel you to post his original message, not just Hopsicker's answer to it. Mark On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:34:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Daniel Hopsicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: constantine Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:10:17 -0500 coupled with a little mind, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing a constantine report exclusive about me was forwarded to me by kris millegan. and while i can find no constantine report for which this would be major breaking news, still, being attacked by a wing-nut is unpleasant enough to provoke a response. however, his first accusation is so baseless as to render his diatribe meaningless: nowhere have i even HEARD that ruppert got 40k from his widow and orphan-robbing friends. thus i would have been unable to make the accusation in my vicious lashing out. thus in his very first overwrought paragraph, mr. constantine is guilty of slander, or libel, (there is a difference between the two, which i should remember, but don't), and i strongly urge whoever's website he has posted this to to remove it on that basis. and i need make no defense against specious claims that i have lied about things which i never said in the first place. my background in business television, such as it is, is EXACTLY as i have stated publicly, and not immodestly: along with numerous other business-related productions, i once produced a business show, global business 2000, which aired internationally on nbc. no doubt by accident, mr constantine does us all a service by pointing out that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. so, apparently, is going off your meds. daniel hopsicker - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: Fwd: 911 Author Daniel Hopsicker1s Credentials are Fraudulent www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Why We Must Actively Oppose Religious Fundamentalism -was- Why the poorer folks turned right
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 All conscious people must work to expose, educate about, and fight against the anti-human teachings and principles of Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions. They must be combatted directly, but without blaming their believers. We have to be _more_ direct about this, not less. Since there are also some pro-human teachings in these religions, we can identify these and use them with believers to show why they should reject the harmful ideas -- domination, anti-sexuality, male supremacy, genital mutilation (circumcision in Judaism and Islam), anti-rationality, blind belief in and obedience to authority, hatred of homosexual people, and other anti-human beliefs falsely labelled as morality. There is only one valid principle of morality, and it's very simple: Do not harm people or other sentient beings. The Right constantly strives to indoctrinate people with these anti-human principles, because they believe in them themselves or because they use them to motivate people into domination and war, and then profit from the resulting death and destruction. If we emulate the Democratic Party and simply go along with these increasing anti-human trends in our culture in an attempt to get the believers to support us, we will abandon our own pro-human principles and still lose the indoctrinated believers, who will continue to flock to the fascists for assurance that their already-programmed viciousness and hatred are legitimate and justified. The terms left elitism, latte liberals, etc., used by the original poster (below) are fascist propaganda that we should never accept. If people laugh about religious fundamentalists it's only to cover up our fear that the fundamentalists' horrible belief systems are spreading and overwhelming the pro-human cultural elements in our societies, and thus inevitably leading to massive domination, misery, murder, and planetary death. We should face these awful facts squarely and stop laughing. Currently some fascist/fundamentalist Christians in the U.S. are allied with fascist/fundamentalist Jews (Zionists) in Israel to start a nuclear war -- Armageddon -- in the Middle East for the Christians and to expand Israel to include the eastern third of Egypt and the western half of Iraq (Greater Israel) while implementing the Final Solution for the Palestinians. As one of the pretexts for this bogus War on Terror they use the actual suppression and maltreatment of women under Islam in most Moslem countries. We must directly challenge and fight the fundamentalist beliefs while feeling and expressing kinship with the believers, since they are people like ourselves, but who have been programmed to hate and harm others. We must expose and undo that programming. It requires much intelligence, persistence, and kindness to discover and practice ways of accomplishing this, but we have no other choice. Judeo-Christian-Islamic fundamentalist beliefs are like cancer viruses that replicate within living cells and spread to other cells, programming them all to attack and destroy their neighbors, and thereby causing a breakdown of the cooperation among cells and organs that is necessary for life, resulting in death of the whole organism. We must be like the immune system and fight against these destructive beliefs, helping the people who believe in them to see how harmful the beliefs are, and giving them help and support for whatever they feel they need the beliefs for. There is no other choice. If religious fundamentalism is allowed to continue to spread, in our world of immense technological destructive power and perilous ecological fragility, it will be the end of the human species and probably of all life on Earth. References: http://www.dhushara.com/book/renewal/voices2/eisler.htm _The Chalice and the Blade_, by Riane Eisler, 1988, ISBN 0-06-250-289-1, HarperSanFrancisco, $18. An overview of the archaeological work of Marija Gimbutas and others. It explains the macro-history of human culture, and proves that domination, patriarchy, and war are culturally programmed, rather than biologically innate. _Sacred Pleasure: Sex, Myth, and the Politics of the Body_, by Riane Eisler, 1996, ISBN 0-06-250283-2, HarperSanFrancisco Continuation of the topics of _The Chalice and the Blade_, including the events that triggered the origin of dominator culture. On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 03:44:39PM -0800, Avis Worthington wrote: ... Think before you speak. For instance, the often repeated phrase-A woman has a right to control her own body. Many iffy words to conservatives. We'll pass on A, but woman could mean uppity, shouldering aside the menfolk. Right, some say there's too much talk about rights. Control, oh, my God, woman control could be worse than government control. Body. You mean, all pink and nekkid? Can't think about that. And then it looks like these women have no use
[CTRL] SMOKING GUN: Bush Plan To Prevent Democracy In Iraq And Steal All Assets
-Caveat Lector- http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=383 http://www.tompaine.com/articles/adventure_capitalism.php One thing stood in the way of rewriting Iraq's laws and selling off Iraq's assets: the Iraqis. An insider working on the plans put it coldly: `They have [Deputy Defense Secretary Paul] Wolfowitz coming out saying it's going to be a democratic country -- but we're going to do something that 99 percent of the people of Iraq wouldn't vote for.' Adventure Capitalism - The Hidden 2001 Plan to Carve-up Iraq by Greg Palast Wednesday, October 27, 2004 TomPaine.com Why were Iraqi elections delayed? Why was Jay Garner fired? Why are our troops still there? Investigative reporter Greg Palast uncovers new documents that answer these questions and more about the Bush administration's grand designs on Iraq. Like everything else issued during this administration, the plan to overhaul the Iraqi economy has corporate lobbyist fingerprints all over it. --- In February 2003, a month before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, a 101-page document came my way from somewhere within the U.S. State Department. Titled pleasantly, Moving the Iraqi Economy from Recovery to Growth, it was part of a larger under-wraps program called The Iraq Strategy. The Economy Plan goes boldly where no invasion plan has gone before: the complete rewrite, it says, of a conquered state's policies, laws and regulations. Here's what you'll find in the Plan: A highly detailed program, begun years before the tanks rolled, for imposing a new regime of low taxes on big business, and quick sales of Iraq's banks and bridges--in fact, ALL state enterprises--to foreign operators. There's more in the Plan, part of which became public when the State Department hired consulting firm to track the progress of the Iraq makeover. Example: This is likely history's first military assault plan appended to a program for toughening the target nation's copyright laws. And when it comes to oil, the Plan leaves nothing to chance--or to the Iraqis. Beginning on page 73, the secret drafters emphasized that Iraq would have to privatize (i.e., sell off) its oil and supporting industries. The Plan makes it clear that--even if we didn't go in for the oil--we certainly won't leave without it. If the Economy Plan reads like a Christmas wishlist drafted by U.S. corporate lobbyists, that's because it was. From slashing taxes to wiping away Iraq's tariffs (taxes on imports of U.S. and other foreign goods), the package carries the unmistakable fingerprints of the small, soft hands of Grover Norquist. Norquist is the capo di capi of the lobbyist army of the right. In Washington every Wednesday, he hosts a pow-wow of big business political operatives and right- wing muscle groups--including the Christian Coalition and National Rifle Association--where Norquist quarterbacks their media and legislative offensive for the week. Once registered as a lobbyist for Microsoft and American Express, Norquist today directs Americans for Tax Reform, a kind of trade union for billionaires unnamed, pushing a regressive flat tax scheme. Acting on a tip, I dropped by the super-lobbyist's L- Street office. Below a huge framed poster of his idol (NIXON-- NOW MORE THAN EVER), Norquist could not wait to boast of moving freely at the Treasury, Defense and State Departments, and, in the White House, shaping the post-conquest economic plans--from taxes to tariffs to the intellectual property rights that I pointed to in the Plan. Norquist wasn't the only corporate front man getting a piece of the Iraq cash cow. Norquist suggested the change in copyright laws after seeking the guidance of the Recording Industry Association of America. And then there's the oil. Iraq-born Falah Aljibury was in on the drafting of administration blueprints for the post-Saddam Iraq. According to Aljibury, the administration began coveting its Mideast neighbor's oil within weeks of the Bush-Cheney inauguration, when the White House convened a closed committee under the direction of the State Department's Pam Wainwright. The group included banking and chemical industry men, and the range of topics over what to do with a post- conquest Iraq was wide. In short order, said Aljibury, It became an oil group. This was not surprising as the membership list had a strong smell of petroleum. Besides Aljibury, an oil industry consultant, the secret team included executives from Royal-Dutch Shell and ChevronTexaco. These and other oil industry bigs would, in 2003, direct the drafting of a 300-page addendum to the Economy Plan solely about Iraq's oil assets. The oil section of the Plan, obtained after a year of wrestling with the administration over the Freedom of Information Act, calls for Iraqis to sell off to IOCs (international oil companies) the nation's downstream assets--that is, the refineries, pipelines and ports that, unless under armed occupation, a Mideast nation would be
[CTRL] The Bulge On Bush's Back -- Technology
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 the rest of the bulk could be the receiver and battery pack, i still dont understand why its so big. The prompter's transmitter and Bush's receiver would likely utilize digital encryption and spread-spectrum technologies. This would prevent the signal from even being detected, e.g., with a scanner or spectrum analyzer, much less decoded by any receiver except the one Bush was wearing. To any instrument except the synchronized receiver operating from the same encryption key, such a radio signal would be indistinguishable from random background noise. This is mature, readily available, off-the-shelf technology. Here's a nice tutorial in an online journal devoted to the subject: http://www.sss-mag.com/ss.html A box containing the sophisticated receiver, microprocessor, digital-to-analog converter, amplifier, and battery might easily be the size of the bulge on Bush's back. The earphone would fit entirely inside the ear canal (and have to be inserted and removed with tweezers). The only tough part would be getting the decoded audio signal from the box on Bush's back to the earphone. Another, very short, unencrypted radio link would be hampered by the conductivity of the flesh surrounding the earphone, which would attenuate radio waves, and it would also risk detection by another receiver. Instead, the connection might simply have been made by a pair of very fine wires from the box, coming up the back of Bush's neck, below the external ear, and into the ear canal. Painted matte flesh color, the wires would not have been visible. The radio link from the person doing the thinking and prompting, to the box on Bush's back, would have been implemented with undetectable spread-spectrum and encryption techniques in order to prevent a repeat of the previous fiasco that occurred during a Bush speech in France, and perhaps another more recently: http://www.google.com/search?num=100q=bush+earphone+france+cnn http://www.google.com/search?num=100q=bush+earpiece+france+cnn Television viewers have sometimes heard another voice speaking Bush's words before he says them. When Bush spoke at D-Day ceremonies in France last June, for example, viewers watching on CNN, Fox and MSNBC, including mediachannel.org's Danny Schechter, were startled to hear another voice speaking Bush's words as if to prompt him. Some said this continued into a q a. And on the night of 9/11, when Bush appeared on television to address the nation, viewers of one television station in Quincy, Massachusetts heard another voice speaking, slowly and carefully, a few words at a time -- words which were then recited by the president. The voice was nondescript, male, definitely not the president's voice, says Quincy resident Robyn Miller. This went on for at least four sentences, she says, and then the extra feed was cut off. I just read an article linked at whatreallyhappened.com that suggests that this bulge is too big for a transmitting device, but it might be a heart monitor, which when combined with Bush's drooping jaw, might indicate that he has recently suffered a mild stroke. This seems to make sense, too -- because they would use the smallest transmitting device possible to avoid detection, and the bulge in his back is huge. 00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the commission put no electronic devices on the president or Senator Kerry. When asked about the bulge on Bush's back, the official said, I don't know what that was. Interesting they say that the COMMISSION didnt put anything on his back. im sure it wasnt them, it was Rove, the CIA, Cheney, the RNC or ??? McKenna said that, given its shape, the bulge could be the inductor portion of a two-way push-to-talk system. PTT (push to talk) is old, and like a walkie talkie, i am sure the NSA,CIA etc.. have much better equipment these days. a cell phone wuold be smaller, i cant figure out why they needed something so huge. If you look closely , it looks like there is a wire under his jacket as well, running up from the box. this could be an antenna, they would need a long one like that if they were remote (more than 1-200 feet away) the rest of the bulk could be the reciever and battery pack, i still dont understand why its so big. James Bond had a much smaller one, Brad www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need
[CTRL] _The New Pearl Harbor_ Still On Indymedia; Bush-Nazi Sources
-Caveat Lector- Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 I don't know where the PDF files were, but the HTML file of _The New Pearl Harbor_ is still at these addresses: THE NEW PEARL HARBOR -- 911 (the book) : Vancouver Indymedia http://vancouver.indymedia.org/print.php?id=141355 http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355.php I suggest that lots of people download it, put copies up on their own websites, and publish the addresses widely. The information about wealthy American businessmen, including both of G W Bush's grandfathers, providing about 75% of the financing for Hitler's military buildup, can be found in these websites and books: http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detailcatalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi%20Link http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detailcatalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_2 http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/ _Trading With The Enemy_, Charles Higham, 1983 _All Honorable Men_, James Stuart Martin, 1950 _Who Financed Hitler?_, James Suzanne Pool, 1978 On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 11:18:21AM -0700, Hank Ramey wrote: Subject: Re: Did anyone get the URLs to the sites IndyMedia reported telling us which Neo ...-Nazi groups were connected to the Bush administration and in which way? WHAT ARE THE NAMES OF THESE NAZI AGENTS? Thank you George Heinrich Himmler Bush, Jr. The pdf files of The New Pearl Harbor where removed because of these fucking Nazis! BUSH SHOULD BE PERMANMENTLY CENSORED THIS NOVEMBER! In fact, there ought to be a lawsuit against these agents FOR CENSORING THE INTERNET! I WANT NAMES SO THAT WE CAN SUE THE BASTARDS! --- In http://us.f807.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.comYY=69770order=downsort=datepos=0 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Travis George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, the FBI ordered the ISP Rackspace to turn over servers that host an international alternative media forum called IndyMedia, which is often first to break stories that are reported later in the mainstream media after the presstitutes realize that everyone's talking about and aren't even bothering to tune in, since they're not bothering to cover what everyone's talking about. The thing that's got people really in an uproar is although it was solely the US government that cracked down on free speech (so what else is new?), the action affected IndyMedia servers all over the world. Besides the US, servers in UK, Germany, Italy, Brazil and just about all of France except the Paris servers were affected. Nearly all the data hosted on those IndyMedia servers that were forced offline has been lost. Apparently Rackspace is a US company, so even though it has servers in different parts of the world, they were pressured into believing they had to turn over those servers as well. Rackspace is actually under a GAG ORDER that prevents them from giving details about the subpoena. But since IndyMedia has been online for over five years, and the Bush administration's crack down on free speech and dissent isn't exactly a new thing, people are wondering why now. Sure we're getting close to the election, but nearly all of us have agonized over the election for months now. Why should they launch this strange attack now in particular?? That's when I read a post at this site ( http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/111999.shtml http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/111999.shtml) It referred to a posting that had been deleted - not the original mass deletions upon the server being served with a subpoena, but a posting that referred to another posting that sought to explain why now, and why so suddenly - the poster said they had read a response that referred to ties between the Bush administration and various neo-nazi groups... and THESE TIES WERE AMONG THE VARIOUS THINGS POSTED ON THE INDYMEDIA SERVER... since there's so many things IndyMedia reports on, it was hard to determine the exact cause. But... a few moments later, EVEN THE POSTING THAT WAS WONDERING what happened to the posting talking about the original Bush junta/Neo-Nazi ties cited on IndyMedia was deleted... although the thread itself remained. I've scoured those IndyMedia sites that weren't hosted by Rackspace in the hopes that I could find the URLs that were cited in the response linking the Bush/Neo Nazi ties to the subpoena, but unsurprisingly it seems to have vanished. If anyone here visits IndyMedia, and had seen the original information info about Bush's ties to Neo Nazi groups and can provide me the URLs I'm looking for that documents these ties, I'd very much appreciate it if you could send me that info. And if someone responds to this messages, and this Yahoo Group is deleted shortly afterwards, you'll know that there's truth to this, because the government doesn't want you to read it. So I encourage you to CC the response to
[CTRL] Millegan's Attacks On Eastman, Webfairy, etc. -was- In Plane Site ...
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Kris, this attack from you (below), like your similar ones against Dick Eastman, contains only unsupported smears with no data to back them up, except for your claim that the people you're attacking created forged e-mails from Brian Quig. But that claim is based on the fact some people addressed in those e-mails say they didn't receive them, or at least can't find them. This is _not_ valid evidence, even if the recipients in question actually didn't get copies of the messages, because e-mail sending and receiving software is quite fallible: I administer two mailing lists (Kris is on one of mine, and I am on two of his), and I have seen dozens of instances in which messages are bounced by mail servers because of subtle errors in their configuration with respect to certain recipients; this occurs only intermittently -- most messages to those recipients get through. One cause of this can be erroneous MX (mail exchanger) records for these recipients. If the sending server can't reach the receiving server listed in a primary MX record (which happens intermittently due to high loads), it may try to send to a server listed in a secondary MX record which may be out of date, and that server may bounce the mail because the recipient is no longer known to it. This situation has been made much worse during the last ten years or so as mail servers have been programmed to reject relaying -- reception of mail destined for recipients on other servers -- as a means of cutting down on spam. Also, mail client software, especially the programs from Microsoft, sometimes lose messages that they've received. I've heard complaints from Windows users about this (I use the much more reliable -- and free -- Linux system). And certainly it's very easy to hit the wrong key and accidently delete an e-mail without realizing it. Finally, many messages are mistakenly and silently deleted as spam by people's mail servers and never sent to them. The same messages may reach other recipients whose servers employ different spam rejection programs. Kris, I apologize for not giving you this information before, although we've had a number of phone conversations. I've only gradually become aware of it, correlated it, and learned the technical facts behind it. So your accusations of mail forgery may have resulted from your not having this knowledge. You should then rethink all the conclusions you've drawn from your belief that these forgeries occurred. As to your other disagreements with the people you're attacking, I haven't followed your disputes with Webfairy, but I have read many of your attacks against Eastman. These come down to your uncritical acceptance of various witness reports that the 757 hit the Pentagon, and your refusal to deal with the physical evidence. Witnesses can be mistaken; movies frequently portray airplane and helicopter crashes by showing film of the aircraft flying toward a building and then film of a large petroleum explosion; actually there was no crash. This is very likely what was arranged for the Pentagon attack; it's exactly like a stage magician vanishing in a puff of smoke. It would certainly fool witnesses, who almost always think they've seen what they expected to see. In fact, when some of the witness accounts that claim the plane hit are examined carefully, they contain details that would have occurred far too rapidly -- in a few thousandths of a second -- for the human eye or brain to perceive; this is proof that these witnesses either imagined these details, or are intentionally lying. Witnesses can easily be deceived, and false witnesses can easily be planted, but the physical evidence against the government story tells the truth. The original hole in the building was far too small; there was no evidence of the impact of the huge engines or the tail fin; there was no fire, and very little debris, on the lawn despite the plane allegedly hitting the wall at nearly a 45 degree angle which would have caused much of it to end up outside; the plastic nosecone (designed to pass radar waves to and from the radar antenna inside it) could not possibly have penetrated the many layers of walls without shattering -- it must have been planted; and a rusted part -- allegedly from an aircraft that was kept polished to a mirror finish -- was photographed inside the building, and so must also have been planted. All this is why almost all 9-11 researchers agree that the 757 did not crash into the Pentagon, but rather passed over it, and, possibly after loitering over the ocean for a while, landed at Reagan airport or some other during the very chaotic period when all planes were being forced to land immediately, wherever they were. In the last year or so there have been many accusations from some 9-11 researchers that various people who disagree with them are fascist agents. I'm sure this isn't true in
[CTRL] Democratic Party's War on Terrorism Picks Up Steam
-Caveat Lector- Forwarded: Today on KPFA radio (Pacifica's Berkeley outlet), during the morning show, an interview with ex senator (and presidential candidate) Gary Hart, who is now advising Kerry on foreign policy. He blasted Bush with the increasingly common theme that Bush's policies are hurting the war on terrorism. Hart co-wrote with ex senator Rudman of New Hampshire a report on the war for the Council on Foreign Relations a couple of years ago, which concluded the US was losing because it wasn't fighting it well enough. Then in the Evening News, a report on Richard Clarke speaking to an ACLU meeting, attacking Bush in the same language, saying the war on terrorism is a must-win and Bush is losing it. And another segment in the news promoted John Edwards, the populist hero. Not reported was Edwards' moves to push for a domestic spy agency like Britain's M.I.5. See http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2004/070704spyagency.htm Another interesting item on Edwards in yesterday's NY Times, about the Bilderberg (!) conference in Italy in early June, a secretive and exclusive (120 of the cream of the global elite) meeing where Edwards spoke on politics and got a rousing ovation in violation of their rules. His performance at Bilderberg was important said a friend of Kerry. I BET! http://www.rense.com/general54/biler.htm the URL of the NY Times article is there, you need to register (free) to get to it (as often happens with the Times) (If you don't know much about Bilderberg, FIND OUT. That's the real world gov't) www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Porton Down Chief CBW Defense Scientist Killed In Plane Crash
-Caveat Lector- Sounds like engine failure; probably could have been caused by a HERF-gun attack if the ignition is electronic. This is suspected in the Wellstone assassination. Thanks to Scott Loughrey and Jeff Strahl for finding this item. Another Top Bioweapons Expert Killed http://www.rense.com/general54/hehi.htm http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3155120 Fri 2 Jul 2004 2:10pm (UK) Air Crash Victim Was Weapons Expert By Sam Marsden, PA News The pilot of an aircraft who died alongside three passengers when it crashed into a field was an expert in chemical and biological weapons, it emerged today. Dr Paul Norman, 52, of Salisbury, Wiltshire, was killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon on Sunday. A father and daughter also died at the scene, and 44-year-old parachute instructor and Royal Marine Major Mike Wills later died in hospital. Dr Norman, who was married with a 14-year-old son and a 20-year-old daughter, was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire. He travelled the world lecturing on defending against the scourge of weapons of mass destruction, a friend and colleague said today. Steve Eley, chief scientist for hazard reduction at Porton Down, said: Paul was a great deal larger than life, and has left an enormous number of friends, all of whom have lost an irreplaceable part of their lives. Dr Norman's hobbies included parachuting, flying and looking after his small collection of old cars. Following study in Liverpool, the USA and Canada, he started work at Porton Down in 1986 and became an expert in his field. The Cessna crashed near the village of Beacon, east Devon, a few miles from Dunkeswell airfield, where it took off. The aircraft's other two passengers, 16-year-old Daniel Greening from Kingsteignton, Devon, and a 23-year-old from Taunton, Somerset, are still in hospital. Daniel's family said yesterday that he had survived thanks to the selfless actions of other skydivers on board. He was making a tandem jump with Major Wills, based at the Commando Training Centre, Lympstone, Devon, who was one of the world's leading parachutists. The skydiving ace, from Tiverton, Devon, had 5,900 jumps to his name and had held world and UK records. The flight was organised by the Devon and Somerset Parachute School, which has temporarily suspended its operations. The crash site was examined by officials from the Air Accidents Investigation Branch. The wreckage of the aircraft was removed from the site to the AAIB base at Farnborough. Retired police officer Eric Franklin, 66, from Beacon, has described seeing the aircraft flying low over his farmhouse and hearing the engine cutting out and spluttering before the crash. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] John Kerry and the One Big Property Party
-Caveat Lector- The latest broadcast (040629) of the excellent Pacifica Radio program Taking Aim investigates John Kerry's associates, funding, and policies. Of course he's better than Bush, right? Anybody But Bush... You can listen to it here: http://www.takingaim.info/shows/audio.html More on Kerry's policies -- read the references: http://weholdthesetruths.org/politics/Articles/new-direction-murphy.htm Note: the Washington Post article is still there, just moved; keep clicking. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Light On JFK Mysteries With A 911 Perspective
-Caveat Lector- Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Ralph Schoenman was the director of the Who Killed Kennedy Committee and worked directly with Jim Garrison. He currently co-hosts an excellent weekly radio program on Pacifica station WBAI-FM in New York; the shows are archived for listening at http://www.takingaim.info . I forwarded the article to him and he responded: This is sheer slander and government disinformation. Jim Garrison was no more employed by Carlos Marcello than you are. Walter Sheridan was a notorious government agent sent in to slander and destroy Garrison. All of this is amply documented and known to anyone conversant with the JFK killing. It is imperative that this government disinformation about Garrison and the JFK killing should be exposed, not promoted. New Light On JFK Mysteries With A 911 Perspective From Brasscheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6-27-4 It's instructive that some of the most useful analyses about how contemporary America really works come from the memoirs of gangsters. In case you didn't notice - and I didn't until I picked up I Heard You Paint Houses - the mystery of the 'disappearance' of Jimmy Hoffa has been solved. He was done in by long time friend, Teamster official, and veteran hit man Frank Sheeran and his body was cremated in a mob-controlled funeral parlor. But that's not the most interesting part of Sheeran's life story. First some background... Sheeren was a *major* mob figure. US Attorney, Rudy Giuliani listed him as a member of 'The Commission' along with people like Tony Salerno, Tony Provenzano, and Carmine Persico. In addition to his Sheeran's other skills, he was a skilled hit man who, according to his own account, killed people with the same nonchalance people change socks. It wasn't unusual for him to be sent to kill two different people in two different cities over a single weekend. Sheeran's biography I Heard You Paint Houses was written by Charles Brandt a former prosecutor and Chief Deputy Attorney General of Delaware, and a nationally recognized expert on cross-examination and interrogation techniques. Brandt was rigorous in his efforts to document Sheeran's life story. Some fascinating new information that appears in the account of Sheeran's life... 1. Chicago boss Sam Giancana was often accompanied at meetings with Jimmy Hoffa by none other than Jack Ruby. (Pg. 119) Dan Moldea got independent confirmation of this and it appears in his 1978 book 'The Hoffa Wars.' 2. David Ferrie was New Orleans boss Carlo Marcello's personal pilot. Sheeran recalls an incident where he was instructed to deliver an empty truck to a airfield in Maryland. Another truck appeared filled with soldiers who loaded uniforms, weapons and ammunition aboard Sheeran's empty rig. David Ferrie was present (he arrived by private plane) and provided Sheeran with paperwork to help him avoid being detained by police. He instructed Sheeran to deliver the truck and its contents to E. Howard Hunt and a group of anti-Castro Cubans in Jacksonville. (Pg. 129) 3. The method of recruiting deranged individuals to use as assassins and then arranging for them to be killed on the spot is discussed knowingly by Sheeran. The mob used it occasionally when they wanted to kill someone at a large public gathering and/or were not able to get the person alone. (Pg. 153) 4. Sheeran was ordered to deliver a package which he believed contained three rifles to Campbell's Cement in Baltimore, MD. David Ferrie and a member of the Genovese crime family, who Sheeran knew but would not name for Brandt, picked up the delivery. A few days later John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. 5. When Kennedy was assassinated, Jimmy Hoffa complained bitterly when Harold Gibbons, a Teamster official, flew the flag at half staff at the union's national headquarters. Hoffa was to carry a life long grudge about the incident. During Kennedy's televised funeral, Hoffa said to a Nashville TV audience: Bobby Kennedy is just another lawyer now. (Pg. 165) More on this later... 6. Sheeran states that New Orleans DA Jim Garrison who charged Clay Shaw and others with the Kennedy assassination was actually in the employ of Carlos Marcello and had often done the mob favors for example prosecuting a critic of Jimmy Hoffa named Walter Sheridan on trumped up charges. Sheeran further states that 'friendly' DAs are often employed to help flush out potentially damaging witnesses for elimination. As Kennedy assassination students know, many witnesses died in the course of the Garrison prosecution including David Ferrie. (p. 198) Interestingly, in a book about Norma Wallace 'The Last Madam: A Life in the New Orleans Underworld', Wallace, the operator of the last major 'public' brothel in New Orleans mentioned that 'Big Jim' was notoriously corrupt and venal. 7. The use of private pilots to take hit men to and from
[CTRL] (((Listen))) David Griffin and Michel Chossudovsky Interviewed About 9-11 On KPFK Radio 6/25/2004
-Caveat Lector- This is an excellent program! Great work, MT and Ian! An mp3 file of the show is now accessible for streaming or download (with three others) at: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 It begins with a trailer for Fahrenheit 9-11. Hey, KPFK folks, how about getting those archives up to date on kpfk.org? KPFA has you beat! 8^) Mark On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:12:39PM -0700, s culver wrote: Well, since I missed it -- I was hoping to find it at the archives, but they are weeks out of date. Any other ideas? thanks --Soula At 03:17 PM 6/25/04 -0700, you wrote: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:13:36AM -0700 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Note that KPFK is now streaming in recordable mp3 format: http://www.kpfk.org/listenlive.html The actual stream address is: http://www.kwire.org And they have archives of their programs at: http://www.kpfk.org/archives.html On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:13:36AM -0700, jeff strahl wrote: From: Another Worldview [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: Official Heads Up Re: 6-25 7PM special show Feedback Loop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Feedback Loop To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Official Heads Up Re: 6-25 7PM special show Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:23:09 + Tune in tonight to hear a special show with MT Karthik and Ian Johnston speaking with David Ray Griffin author of The New Pearl Harbor, and perhaps another guest to be announced. Programming focusing on the myths and realities of the events of September 11th, 2001 needs your support - as does KPFK, Los Angeles (heard at 90.7 FM, 98.7 FM in Santa Barbara and KPFK.org wherever you happen to be). a conspiracy theory. It's just one of the devices that's used in the American indoctrination system to prevent scrutiny of power. If somebody does try to provide a critical analysis of American institutions, one of the ways in which you try to suppress them is to say, well, it's a devil theory or a conspiracy theory or so on. Noam Chomsky www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Desmoulins' Attack On Eastman -was- Misuse of my ... intellectual property
, and others.) That is the charitable interpretation of your action; I do not believe in accusing someone of working for the Fascists without more extensive evidence. Mark S Bilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 01:59:56PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone Dick Eastman sent a post to yahoogroup 911crimefile, visible at : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911crimefile/message/14 This yahoogroup, where he is the only person to post, seems to be used by M. Eastman as personal web pages. In this post, at the paragraph Proof 2, he uses a sketch (a B 757 hiting the Pentagon) copied on my web site at : http://earth-citizens.net/pages-en/dam-traj.html He has put on it the text : Civil engineers have plotted to scale a Boeing 757 and the wall and supporting pillars of the Pentagon. First : this could be a detail, I'm not civil engineers but a systems engineer, and I have a name. Second : usually I am not too much bothered by people using my work, even without quoting their sources, if they keep the arguments in the original sense I wanted to mean. But I cannot admit that a sketch could be taken in my web site, and, without context and without source quoting, be used to demonstrate the contrary of what I explain about this sketch. Moreover, in this same post, M. Eastman writes that he has sent this evidence to the 911 event investigation commission ! I begin to be sick of the way of doing of this person. I have already writen what I think of his small plane - killer jet theory and of his personnal behaviour. http://earth-citizens.net/pages-en/th-odd.html I have put on line a page about the Lagasse case, on which it is shown that it is highly probable that either he is a liar, or he is used as a psyop by the 911 coverup cells of some three letters agencies. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/pages-en/th-lagas.html For those who will doubt of the role of psyops in the diversion theories, create tension among different groups, enhance dislike and discord, see : http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/psyops__psywars.htm I want this type of behaviour to be stopped. I thus ask publicly to M. Eastman to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with copies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a message with references to his first message above, explicit apologies, and quote of the original web page where he copied this sketch, with the mention that in this page the explanation of the B 757 crash, with the particular point of the pillars destroyed by the starboard engine, is in complete contradiction with the statement that he wants to promote. If this is not done, I won't give up and I will ask, by all available ways, to have exposed to public the way of doing of M. Eastman. I will also ask Yahoogroups service to take any practical decisions in order to avoid this to happen again by forbidding to M. Eastman to create groups, manage groups, post to groups. Sorry for wasting your time with such silly things. Best regards everybody. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip
-Caveat Lector- I wrote an extensive analysis of the virus e-mails that came through the CTRL list, but my message never shows up on the list when I send it. Kris tried several times to forward the copy I sent to him, and he was also unable to post it. Nor did it ever appear in the list archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/maillist.html Perhaps this is due to some kind of spam filtering gone wrong. So I put it on my website so you all can read it. Maybe one of the following will show up as a clickable link. If not, just use your mouse to copy and paste the first one into the location line of your web browser. http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/misc/VirusCTRL.002 a href=http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/misc/VirusCTRL.002;http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/misc/VirusCTRL.002/a Please Cc any questions and comments to me personally as well as to the list. Let's hope _this_ message gets through! Mark www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:01:01PM -0700 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:01:01PM -0700, Jim S. wrote: From: MARTI MAURER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:44 PM 2. ALL of Kris Milligan's posts which are *Fwd's* come BLANK (exc. for the CTRL disclaimer thingee, which is there). Sounds like your ISP or your own software is removing e-mail attachments. See if you can switch that off. From: Jim S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have sent NO post/s -- much less a file! -- to CTRL recently!!! So whom is the you addressed??? A virus on person A's computer often selects addresses B and C from A's e-mail addressbook, creates an infected message labelled as coming from address B, and sends it to address C. Or the sender address may not be spoofed, and may simply indicate person A. In either case, the virus program in A's computer sends out e-mails on its own, without any action by the user. So if a viral mail was sent to CTRL and appeared to come from Jim, either Jim's computer is infected or someone else's computer is whose addressbook contains the address of both Jim and CTRL. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:54 AM Subject: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip The file you have sent was infected with a virus but InterScan E-Mail VirusWall could not clean it. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Believe Lies, Absorb a Bullet
-Caveat Lector- What and Why Because You Believe America's Lies, Expect a Bullet with Your Name on It By John Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note to readers: my computer ate my address book, so if you didn't receive this directly, don't think I'm ignoring you. To those who do get this, please pass it around, if you like. I am attempting to reconstruct my address book. Ever wake yourself out of a sound sleep because you were screaming at yourself in a dream? Personally, I've never done that before. Yet I just did exactly that. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO TELL THEM? AND WHY DO THEY NEED TO KNOW?! Over and over I kept berating myself with this manic mantra, tossing and turning, sheets all tangled up in a sweaty knot. All those stories I'd written. This subject and that approach. This example and that phrase. Has it been a waste of time? Most people didn't believe what I was saying. They couldn't see the importance of it. It was like I was stumbling through a darkened town in the middle of the night shouting FIRE! and sleepy people rolled over in their beds and muttered What the hell is he raving about? before closing their eyes and going back to sleep. Only the town was America. The year 2004. WHAT? And WHY? My message was not getting through. People couldn't see the value of it, the purpose of it. Why would anyone need to know something like that? That their government had a master plan to kill millions, and had already killed tens of thousands. A conspiracy theory, that's all it was, right? What importance could this knowledge - that was so important to me! - possibly have for ordinary people just trying to live their lives, just trying to get by. If they kept their heads down and let the power brokers have their way, it would all blow over - right? And America would return to the Elysian vision of the past - right? Yet my voice wouldn't let me sleep, and my wheezy snore turned into the very clear barking of a drill sergeant in my turbulent brain. This is very important, John. Wake up. They haven't understood what you've been trying to say. Think clearly about this. Think about what would work. Think about what would really reach them. On the film, the plane flies serenely, over and over, slams into the facade of the skyscraper, over and over we watch the video and try to deduce the truth from slow- motion puffs of smoke. From how those towers fell on cue, as if somebody pulled a switch. YOU NEED TO TELL PEOPLE DIRECTLY. YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO THEM, FORCEFULLY, SURELY, TRULY. STUFF THE EXOTIC THEORIES. JUST MAKE YOUR POINT. You know what a harbinger is? A harbinger is a clue that shows that something is going to happen soon, especially something bad. You know when that plane drove into that building? That was a harbinger of what's going to happen to your very own future! YOU NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT IT. MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND. MAKE THEM REALIZE THE DANGER THEY ARE IN. I've said it over and over. The U.S. government planned, executed, and then covered up the 9/11 caper, covered it up with layers of clumsy lies and false leads, like pseudo hijackers with phony names and heartwrenching cellphone calls that couldn't have possibly been made. As Barb Honegger recently wrote on the Conspiracy Planet website, they covered it up by piggybacking the whole plot on a military exercise that was being conducted that very day, so that the air defenses would hesitate intercepting the hijacked airliners, so that the practice exercise could become real, and the rich oil pigs could get their way playing hog-in-trough with all the coins in the U.S. Treasury. There were so many other reasons: Silverstein's insurance scam, the fact that the Twin Towers needed to be demolished anyway because of flawed construction techniques, the zillions to be made in shrewd investments guaranteed by the foreknowledge of destruction, and a sure way to defame Muslims permanently as an excuse to steal their oil. But mostly it was to terminate American democracy, because as Zbigniew Brzezinski had warned us, no nation could be democratic at home and rapacious abroad. And America needs to be rapacious abroad to please its defense contractors, to satisfy the international bankers who control all our money. This was a good way to end democracy once and for all, and the deed has been done. TELL THEM CLEARLY WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. The fat cats who run everything - how do you spell Rothschild? - determined that this would be the event to trigger permanent war, the social state that makes bankers the most money. And since there was no convenient enemy to nurture carefully until it was time to destroy him - like Hitler or Saddam - the natural thing would be to pin the blame on Muslims, and continue the racist crusades that have been going on for a thousand years. Just like WTC1 and Oklahoma City (where, in the latter, shadowy Muslim puppets were waiting in the background to serve as patsies just in case
Re: [CTRL] An Interesting op developing
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 11:45:27AM -0400 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 11:45:27AM -0400, Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, I may be wrong, but there maybe a scenario op going on. . [generalities snipped] What we have are operatives and ensnared true believers trying to set-up themselves up as the 9-11 researchers. Claiming that thier take is right and all others are part of the modified-limited-hangout. Which is exactly what Kris Millegan himself is doing here! As long-time members know, I have been talking about Berlet and his conspracism charges for years and exposed him for all to see on the NewPacifca list several years ago. Yup, about four of us hit him with the facts and he disappeared without conceding defeat. Berlet is one of the biggest pro-elite (while claiming to be leftist) propagandists. A new wrinkle has been the apperance of known op Chip Berlet on gatekeeper Amy Goodman's show.. Notice that Chip focussed on the no-plane at the pentagon. This is to furthur muddy the waters and to try and then link Berlets position with others, that also say that there was a plane there. And then try to smear by association of position. This vague reasoning applies to Millegan as well, since he's taking the same position (the 757 hit the Pentagon) as Berlet. The op players or true believer/useful idiots are: Scott Loughrey Gerard Holmgren Rosalee Grable (a.k.a., the Web Fairy) Jeffrey G Strahl Sean McBride Dick Eastman Most of these people have done very good work. Note that putting Web Fairy in with the others is quite dishonest (Mark Robinowitz does it, too), because she says that no planes hit the WTC (which would require some unknown technology to create the illusion that they did), whereas the others just say that the 757 (Flight 77) didn't hit the Pentagon, which does not require any facts not in evidence, and actually fits the evidence much better. But Kris will have to add the following 9-11 researchers to his list of op players/useful idiots, because they too think that the 757 did not hit the Pentagon: Mike Ruppert, 757 pilot Ralph Omholt, Kee Dewdney, Brad Mayeux, Chris Bollyn, Carol Valentine, John Kaminski, Thierry Meissan, Jerry Longspaugh (physics911.org), Jim Hoffman, and myself. These folks will play to the crowd with bonafides and patriotic talk. They are really quite transparent. Or, we're telling the truth, and Kris Millegan is the evil disinformation agent... or maybe his analysis simply disagrees with ours. But the evidence that the plane did not hit includes: If it had knocked down the cloverleaf light poles on its way in then it would have hit the stone wall at almost a 45 degree angle, followed the path of least resistance, and most of it would have slid down the *outside* of the building. If it had hit, much of its 100,000 pounds of aluminum and steel would have ended up on the lawn. Instead there were only a few small pieces. If it had hit, the lawn and tree would have been burned by the jet fuel. They weren't. Ralph Omholt's web page shows a piece of metal inside the Pentagon, probably a landing gear strut, that was *rusted*, and therefore must have been planted there, since those airliners are kept very clean and shiny. The initial holes in the wall were too small, and too close to the ground, for the 757 to have made them. If the light poles had been hit by a 400 mph airliner, they would have been twisted like spaghetti. They weren't. The alternative scenario, that the 757 (which was seen coming in by many witnesses) flew over the Pentagon and landed somewhere, has none of these problems. It only requires some other means (e.g., invisible matte black steel wires) to have pulled down the light poles after their mounting screws had been loosened, and maybe that the one that hit the taxi was tossed from a truck. The objections by Kris Millegan and/or Mark Robinowitz to this scenario include that it would supposedly have required dozens of MIBs running around to pull the poles down. This is a ridiculous exaggeration -- little boxes containing radio- controlled electric motors could have been buried at 4AM the night before by a few agents disguised as maintenance men, and no one would have had to be on the scene the next morning. Another objection is that the scenario violates Occam's Razor, but this doesn't apply if the alleged simplest explanation doesn't fit the evidence, or if there's a possibility that deception was employed; both conditions exist here. Kris also claims that since we don't know what happened to the plane and passengers afterward that this invalidates the idea, which just doesn't make any sense. It's like saying that someone couldn't possibly have driven his friends to a restaurant because we don't know which restaurant they went to or where he parked the car. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==
[CTRL] Pentagon 757 Flyover Review -was- evidence index...
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, May 23, 2004 at 09:23:51AM -0700 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Mike Ruppert, 757 pilot Ralph Omholt, Kee Dewdney, Brad Mayeux, Chris Bollyn, Carol Valentine, John Kaminski, Gerard Holmgren, Thierry Meissan, Jerry Longspaugh (physics911.org), Jim Hoffman, and many other 9-11 researchers believe that if the airliner (which _was_ reliably witnessed flying toward the Pentagon) had hit the stone wall of the building, a major portion of its 100,000 pounds of aluminum and steel would have been left on the lawn, and much of the fuel would have burned there and scorched the grass also. Neither of these things happened. Furthermore there was a large obstruction directly in front of the hole, which if the plane had cleared it, the hole would have been substantially higher. Also, Omholt has a picture of a *rusted* piece of airliner debris inside the Pentagon, apparently a landing gear strut, which must have been planted there, and gotten from a junkyard, because those planes were maintained in utterly spotless condition: http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm As to the small plane and missile(s), Eastman has testimony from some witnesses consistent with this, but their experience was of course very brief. The security camera pictures, if accurate, show an aircraft with shorter body-to-tail length than a 757 (Eastman's stegosaurus proof), although these pictures may have been altered by the government. However, they may not have been altered. sometimes we give the intelligence agencies more credit for intelligence than they deserve. Note that they released the Nick Berg video with dozens of inconsistencies that belie the government story, and that the CIA animation of the TWA-800 explosion was immediately evaluated as a total farce. In any case the alternative to the small-plane/missile scenario is simply explosives and incendiaries placed inside the Pentagon. And it's entirely possible that both were used. The downing of the light poles is not evidence that the 757 hit the building, because they could have been brought down by other very simple means, such as thin steel wires pulled by small buried radio-controlled electric motors (after the poles' mounting bolts were loosened), this set up by agents dressed as maintenance men in the wee hours the night before. Thus the airliner did not have to be low enough to knock down the poles, and so could easily have flown over the Pentagon. It is unclear why Kris Millegan and a couple of others ran a smear campaign against this explanation a few weeks ago, confounding it with the highly improbable WTC-hologram idea by labelling its proponents as NO PLANE NUTTERS, and claiming that it would have required dozens of men in black in full view at the time the poles were downed. In fact, that would have been done by simple remote control radio signals, and the buried motor boxes -- at most one foot cubes -- would have been far simpler to design than the radio-controlled battle robots that hobbyists build for competition on TV. Security at Reagan National Airport, one mile further on, was run by an Israeli company, so the plane could have landed there, had its numbers repainted, and later taken off again. A previous poster wrote: I seriously doubt that Mr. Eastman has ever been to this area. If he had, he might realize that thousands of people would have seen the overflight of this plane, since there are large highways full of commuters, rapid rail line, and numerous large office buildings full of military officials and contractors -- many of them would have noticed the hitherto unprecedented flight of a jet coming from the direction of the Pentagon in a place that planes do not normally fly. It is near National Airport, but planes landing there don't pass that direction. Relatively few people have come forward as witnesses to the far more unusual event of the 757 flying very low *toward* the Pentagon, even though this happened within sight of many drivers momentarily stopped on Washington Boulevard. A plane simply coming in for a landing from an unusual direction would not attract any attention. Also, they need more time to lower their landing gear - planes need more than a mile to accomplish this. Yes, so all it had to do was fly once around in a normal holding loop while lowering the wheels, and then land. As to the witnesses who claimed to have seen the 757 hit the Pentagon (although their testimony has been shown by Holmgren to contain very serious inconsistencies), a simple flash-powder and petroleum movie explosion triggered just as the plane flew over would have created a very convincing illusion. Finally, no motivation has surfaced for the Neocons to have wanted to murder their own Barbara Olson (unlike the Nixon mob crashing an airliner to kill Dorothy Hunt for blackmailing them!) so she (and some other passengers of Flight 77) may well
[CTRL] Hugh Thompson on 60 Minutes Tonight
-Caveat Lector- Hugh Thompson, the helicopter pilot who stopped the My Lai massacre by turning his guns on Calley's soldiers, is sheduled to be on the TV show 60 Minutes on CBS tonight, 7pm PT (check your local schedule). Note that current Secretary of State Colin Powell helped to cover up the My Lai massacre. The wonderful Song for Hugh Thompson by David Rovics can be listened to and downloaded here: http://www.soundclick.com/pro/default.cfm?BandID=111310content=music http://www.soundclick.com/pro/default.cfm?BandID=111310content=lyricsSongID=763764 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Uncle Bam cartoon for 5/07/04
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 22:45:00 EDT Subject: Your Uncle Bam cartoon for 5/07/04 Hello everybody, Here's your weekly dose of antiwar satire: This week's Uncle Bam cartoon URL: http://unclebam.homestead.com/BamVert59.html Nine Eleven Hoax www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is This When The Explosives Were Planted In The WTC Towers???
-Caveat Lector- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:29:13 -0400 From: John Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: Official Verison of 9/11 - new info] Can anybody use this piece of information? jk From: Scott Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Official Verison of 9/11 - new info Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:35:12 + To John Kaminski, I was pleased to read your article The Official Version of 9/11 is a Hoax ... Please note some other facts. My name is Scott Forbes and I still work for Fiduciary Trust. In 2001 we occupied floors 90 and 94-97 of the South Tower and lost 87 employees plus many contractors. On the weekend of 9/8,9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36hrs from floor 50 up. I am aware of this situation since I work in IT and had to work with many others that weekend to ensure that all systems were cleanly shutdown beforehand ... and then brough back up afterwards. The reason given by the WTC for the power down was that cabling in the tower was being upgraded ... Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower. I was at home on the morning of 9/11 on the shore of Jersey City, right opposite the Towers, and watching events unfold I was convinced immediately that something was happening related to the weekend work ... I have mailed this information to many people and bodies, including the 9/11 Commission but no-one seems to be taking and registering these facts. Whats to hide? Can you help publicise them? Please feel free to mail me. Scott Forbes _ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Difference Between Money Wealth -- also Derivatives Bubble
-Caveat Lector- As published in Business Ethics, January/February 1999. Please address requests for permission to reprint to Marjorie Kelly, editor, P.O. Box 8439, Minneapolis, MN 55408, U.S.A., Fax (612) 879-0699 The Difference Between Money Wealth How out-of-control speculation is destroying real wealth by David C. Korten The capitalist economy has a potentially fatal ignorance of two subjects. One is the nature of money. The other is the nature of life. This ignorance leads us to trade away life for money, which is a bad bargain indeed. The real nature of money is obscured by the vocabulary of finance, which is doublespeak. We use the term investors for speculators, whose gambling destabilizes global financial markets. We use the terms money, capital, assets, and wealth interchangeably--leaving no simple means to differentiate money from real wealth. Money is a number. Real wealth is in food, fertile land, buildings, or other things that sustain us. Lacking language to see this difference, we accept the speculators' claim to create wealth, when they expropriate it. If in the 1980s we witnessed capitalism's triumph over communism, in the new millennium we may witness capitalism's triumph over life. For in the vocabulary of capitalism, the destruction of life to make money is progress. When a defender of global capitalism asks, What is your alternative? We've seen that central planning doesn't work, one can respond, Adam Smith had a good idea. I favor a real market economy not centrally planned by governments or corporations. The vital distinction here is between the market economy Adam Smith had in mind, and the capitalist economy, which he would have abhorred. In a healthy market economy, enterprises are human-scale and predominantly locally owned. People bring human sensibilities to bear on every aspect of economic life--resulting in self-organizing societies that maximize human freedom and minimize the need for coercive central control. Capitalism, by contrast, is about using money to make money for people who have more than they need. It breeds inequality. Though capitalism cloaks itself in the rhetoric of democracy, it is dedicated to the elitist principle that sovereignty resides in property rather than in the person. A real market economy creates real wealth. Global capitalism creates out-of-control speculation, which destroys real wealth. a.. It depletes natural capital by strip-mining minerals, forests, and fisheries, and by dumping hazardous wastes that turn productive land and water into zones of death. b.. It depletes human capital through substandard working conditions, as in the Mexican maquiladoras, where vital young women emerge after a few years with failed eyesight, allergies, and repetitive stress injuries that leave them permanency handicapped. c.. It depletes social capital by uprooting factories on which communities depend--leaving society to absorb the family breakdown and violence that result. d.. It depletes institutional capital by taking tax dollars through public subsidies and tax exemptions, and real wealth by weakening environmental standards essential to long-term societal health. Living capital, which has the special capacity to regenerate itself, is the source of all real wealth. To destroy it for money--a number with no intrinsic value--is an act of collective insanity. A real-world example of this insanity is the 1997 Asian financial crisis, in which a so-called financial miracle became a meltdown. That meltdown began in Thailand and spread through Malaysia, Indonesia, South Korea, and Hong Kong, as economies fell like dominoes. While specifics differed, the experience of Thailand reveals the underlying pattern. During the economic miracle phase, large inflows of foreign money fueled rapidly growing financial bubbles in stock and real estate prices. (When too much money chases too few assets, those assets artificially inflate in price.) Those inflated bubbles attracted still more money, much of it from international banks eager to make loans to speculators, who secured loans with the inflated assets. As foreign currency poured in, consumers had the wherewithal to purchase imported goods, sales of which skyrocketed--creating the illusion of a booming economy. Buying rapidly appreciating stocks or real estate seemed, for a time, a better deal than making productive investments in industry or agriculture. Ironically, the f aster foreign inv vestment flowed in, the more investments were sucked away from industry and agriculture and production stagnated or declined in both. Foreign financial obligations thus rose, while the capacity to repay those obligations fell. Once the speculators realized this was not sustainable, the meltdown began. Speculators pulled money out in anticipation of a crash, stock and real estate prices plummeted, and banks were left with uncollectable loans--creating a liquidity crisis. Capitalism can thus create an
[CTRL] Faking the Pentagon Light Pole Hits -was- NO PLANE NUTTERS
-Caveat Lector- Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 12:52:28PM -0400 On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 12:52:28PM -0400, Kris Millegan wrote: Brian Salter wrote: ... i've never been convinced that the witness accounts and the downed light poles could have been caused by anything other than a real airliner or equivalent stand-in, and as bob notes the fly-by doesn't seem at all possible. but at the same time the pentagon damage and wreckage anomalies seem compelling. ... The downed light poles could easily have been faked. People disguised as a highway maintenance crew could have loosened the bolts (or partially cut them, whatever) holding the poles to the highway, and fastened high-strength steel wire (piano wire) painted black for near invisibility, to the poles. The wires could have been pulled as the plane flew over, above the poles and over the Pentagon, by one or more buried boxes, about one cubic foot in size, containing a simple motor and pulley, storage battery, and radio receiver to operate them upon the transmission of a coded signal (as in a garage door opener). These are all off-the-shelf components that could be assembled by any electronics hobbyist; the battle robots people build in their garages to fight on TV are far more complex than this. There would be some mechanical means to detach the wires from the poles afterward, or maybe a couple of the emergency responders did it surreptitiously with wire cutters, and then gave another radio signal to the boxes to reel them in the rest of the way. Simple stage magic -- deception and misdirection. Remember, the perpetrators had years to plan this stuff. The light poles are the only substantial evidence that the plane (apparently a 757 seen by a number of witnesses) was so low that it had to have hit the building. Actually, the plane flew over the Pentagon, and as it did, a billowing petroleum explosion -- really just a whoosh of flame, standard movie variety, with no shockwave that could have knocked the plane off course, was set off, which gave the illusion that the plane had hit the building and exploded. Just like a stage magician vanishing in a puff of smoke. The plane would then have joined the traffic around Reagan Airport, a mile further in the same direction, and flown away or landed. This scenario accounts for the plane sightings, the light poles, the lack of plane debris on the lawn and inside the Pentagon, and the initial holes in the building that were too small and too low to have been caused by a 757 impact. The aircraft could subsequently have been made to disappear temporarily, simply by painting new identification numbers on it. But since its component parts with their serial numbers probably could be identified, it was likely cut up and buried somewhere. Presumably the passengers met a similar fate, unless some were insiders who were relocated and given new identities a la witness protection programs. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pick your price: Your blood or your soul - Kaminski
-Caveat Lector- Pick your price: Your blood or your soul Do you support our killer troops committing genocide in Iraq? By John Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] What would you do if your brother -- or perhaps your son, father, or husband -- was charged with murder? With deliberately taking the life of another human being. For sure, it would be an agonizing decision -- making the choice between practicing what you preach about justice, or standing by your devastated family. A choice no one would envy -- defend your blood or obey the laws of God and society. And then, what if it was a particularly bad murder? Say he shot an old woman in the back, and watched her die -- all the while preventing medical personnel from tending to her. Maybe she was already wounded and he finished her off. From a helicopter, even. It sure would be tough to keep your family -- your mind, your heart -- together in that situation. Who could blame you whatever you decided. Of course, things are different in the middle of a war, even a completly illegal war based on well-publicized lies like the situation in Iraq. I mean, it's easy to say your were just following orders. That's what lots of Nazis did in World War II, but they still were put to death in the trials following the war. I wonder what will happen when and if Americans find themselves in that situation in the near future. Being in a military situation means everything is different. Innocent civilians always get killed accidentally when the military's involved. Some are accidental, some are deliberate, but mostly we never get to know the difference. Bodies get thrown in holes and are forgotten, except by some of the living who years later wake up screaming in the middle of the night. Long after the grisly facts become known, sometimes we get a little tardy justice. Mostly we don't. Remember when former Senator Bob Kerrey tried to give back his Vietnam medals, admitting he killed women and children rather than the dangerous enemy gunmen his valor citations described. How did the public react? Hell, we didn't want to hear him. We told him to keep his medals, keep quiet, and forget about the whole thing. Demonic demagogues like Joseph Farah, Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh all have recently recommended killing large numbers of innocent Iraqis to teach them a lesson. The lesson being it's not cool to mess with Uncle Sam and mutilate his hired killers, the highly paid mercenaries he hired to assassinate Iraqi intellectuals so when America has that tortured nation sufficiently lobotomized, there will be a minimum of intelligent people around to protest the new democratic prison camp that America has created. The United States and Britain have decided to adopt the Pol Pot theory of social engineering -- kill everyone with academic credentials. And when the irate Iraqis decide to strike back at this masterpiece of Israeli-style population control, the U.S. ups the ante on its already-high atrocity level -- and bombs a totally defenseless town from the air, no matter who gets killed, and murders all the males under 45. Repeat: murders all the males under 45. That's what's going on right now, my dear American compatriots, in the inferno called Fallujah, Iraq. It's called genocide. No question about it. This is how your American boys are behaving in a foreign country. Your sons, your husbands, your fathers. Hey! They were just following orders. Based on lies. This is what your country is doing to innocent people. Killing them without a second thought, without regard for who they are or what they've done, how many children they might have or how many wonderful things they've done in this life. Hell, they don't worry about the children because they're killing them, too. Listen to that doctor, forced to set up his clinic in a filthy garage, describe a little boy with a shell of a skull missing its brains. Or the man who was brought to the clinic with burns so bad he will automatically dehydrate to death in 24 hours. How about the boy they threw in the river, and he couldn't swim so he drowned? Or when the fighting first began, the hundred teenagers hooded and kept in the sun, and then shot to death by your beloved Americans boys, one by one. This was all done by your sons, your husbands, your fathers. Just following orders. You know, we all ought to be very scared that these killer punks will be coming home soon, all with the taste of blood on their tongues, ready and willing to tell us all about the wonderful experiences they had in Iraq, or at least the ones who don't immediately get sick and die from the radioactive ammunition they had to handle or the poisonous vaccines they had to endure, at least they'll be able to tell us how they fought the War on Terror in Iraq by shooting defenseless women in the back and bombing residential neighborhoods and splattering body parts all over the tan brick walls of Baghdad. They were scared. It's OK to kill people when you're
[CTRL] Israel Murdering Iraqi Intellectuals
-Caveat Lector- From: Dick Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Israel -- realizing that Iraq cannot stay captured is secretly murdering all Iraqi intellectuals who can operate government, economy and health post-occupation Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:39:44 -0800 Israeli infiltrators (Mossad and other special units) -- realizing that Iraq cannot stay captured is murdering all Iraqi intellectuals who might have operated government and economy post-occupation -- and killing some American's who are talking against the operation. They are determined that Iraq will not be able to sustain a middle class after the conquerors withdraw. The specific targeting of doctors and pharmacologists suggests intentions of future biological warfare against this miserable innocent victim nation. (Remember the rash of recently dead (accidents, suicides etc. and two on Flight 77 on 9-11-01) leading microbiologists throughout the world as you read the following.) Dick Eastman Iraqi intellectuals flee unidentified 'death squads' By Ahmed Janabi Tuesday 30 March 2004, 13:04 Makka Time, 10:04 GMT http://tinyurl.com/2a9cw Occupied Iraq is suffering a new brain drain as intellectuals flood out of the country to avoid unemployment and an organised killing campaign. In recent months assassinations have targeted engineers, pharmacologists, officers, and lawyers. More than 1000 leading Iraqi professionals and intellectuals have been assassinated since last April, among them such prominent figures as Dr Muhammad al-Rawi, the president of Baghdad University. The identity of the assailants remains a mystery and none have been caught. But families and colleagues of victims believe that Iraqi parties with foreign affiliations have an interest in wiping out Iraq's intellectual elite. Media reports suggest that more than 3000 Iraqi academics and high-profile professionals have left Iraq recently, not to mention the thousands of Iraqis who are travelling out of the country every day in search of work and safety. Iraqis used to leave Iraq during the 13-year UN sanctions for better work opportunities, but they are leaving now to avoid being assassinated by unknown, well-organised death squads, said political analyst and politics professor Dhafir Salman. Usama al-Ani, director of the research and development department in the Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific Research said top Iraqi scientists have been targeted by foreign parties. I believe Iraqi scientists are being targeted by foreign powers, most probably Israel. Terror campaign Monday's issue of the pro-US Iraqi internet newspaper Iraq of Tomorrow reported that the decapitated body of mathematics professor Dr Abd al-Samai Abd al-Razaq had been found in a Baghdad street. Aljazeera.net contacted Dr Abd al-Samai's family in Baghdad and was surprised to find him very much alive. They published such a story to terrify me and my family, he told Aljazeera.net, accusing political and religious parties of turning Iraqi universities into political battlefields. Since occupation, universities have become fertile recruitment ground for political and religious parties. Students should be devoted to their studies, not to serving the interests of those who seek power. These groups are targeting me and all my colleagues who want to preserve respected Iraqi institutions from destruction. De-Baathification Aside from the terror campaign, measures taken by the post occupation authorities have contributed to Iraq's brain drain. I would like to ask the de-Baathification committee why they are so happy that many thousands of Baathists have been sacked from Iraq's governmental departments and educational institutions? Salman says. Do they think they have done well? Of course, not. They have sacked Iraq's elite professionals; who will replace them? Where will the replacements come from? After all, these people are Iraqis, is this in line with the national reconciliation they are talking about? Before the war on Iraq, US and UK officials repeatedly accused the Iraqi government of triggering the exodus of four million educated Iraqis. But under the occupation the rate of emigration has increased. Iraqi universities have lost 1315 scientists who hold MA and PhD degrees, al-Ani said. This number constitutes eight per cent of the 15,500 Iraqi academics. Up until now, 30% of those who were sacked as result of the campaign have left Iraq. Education system Iraq is rich in intellectuals, largely as a result of Saddam Hussein's policy of sending tens of thousands of Iraqi students abroad to gain post-graduate degrees in a wide range of disciplines. The practice fell into abeyance when UN sanctions were imposed in 1990 following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. In the country itself, where education has been free since the abolition of the monarchy in 1958, most of the 20 universities in Iraq also awarded post-graduate degrees. === www.ctrl.org
[CTRL] Feb. 18 TV ONLY - Film On GW Bush Cocaine/AWOL Bio _Fortunate Son_
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 03:14:26PM +0700 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Wednesday Feb. 18, once only, will be shown on Cinemax cable channel the documentary film Horns and Halos about the book _Fortunate Son_ by James H Hatfield. This book details George W Bush's cocaine arrest, AWOL episode from the National Guard, crooked financial dealings, etc. Hatfield was murdered for writing the book, and the least *you* can do is videotape the movie, and then show it to everyone you can drag in front of your TV. The main Cinemax channel has a West Coast feed and an East Coast feed. They show the same films, but 3 hours later on the West than the East. Your cable system may get either or both. If you're on the West Coast (Pacific Time), the broadcast times on the two feeds will be 4:00PM (East feed) and 7:00PM (West feed). If you're on the East Coast (Eastern Time), the times will be 7:00PM (East feed) and 10:00PM (West feed). If you're on the East Coast watching the East Coast feed, or if you're on the West Coast watching the West Coast feed, the film will be shown at 7:00PM local time. In any case check the schedule for your cable system. I'm being redundant here because this film may very likely only be shown once -- *ever*. So please have a blank video cassette ready and tape it. Send the film's creators some money if you can. (There's not much you can do for Hatfield.) Official site: http://hornsandhalos.com/ IMDB entry: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0319514/ According to zap2it.com, these are the exact times in PACIFIC TIME: Horns and Halos Documentary A published biography on President George W. Bush causes controversy and a recall. CHANNEL: Cinemax East Coast Feed February 18: 4:00PM Pacific Time CHANNEL: Cinemax West Coast Feed February 18: 7:00PM Pacific Time RATING: NR *** 90 Minutes On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 03:14:26PM +0700, President, USA Exile Govt. wrote: - Original Message - From: Jim Kirwan Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:01 AM Subject: Fw: Horns and Halos/ Watch It Feb. 18 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: Fwd: Horns and Halos/ Watch It Feb. 18 In a message dated 2/8/2004 3:25:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The film Horns and Halos is about the attempted suppression and burning of the book Fortunate Son and the fate of its author, J. Hatfield. The book, a critical biography of Bush, contains accounts of numerous scandalous activities including Bush going AWOL from the National guard, his selling of his stocks in Harken Oil just before they became worthless, his acquisition of the Dallas Rangers stadium for a fraction of what it cost the taxpayers to build, etc. Shortly after taking office, the Bush administration pressured the original publisher into recalling the book from the shelves and burning as many existing copies as possible. Fortunately another publisher has picked up on the book and continues to publish it--despite pressure from the administration. The author was recently found dead under somewhat dubious circumstances. He allegedly died of a drug overdose, but he had no known history of drug use. On Wedneday, Feb 18, Cinemax will air this documentary, telling the story about the admistration's attempts to destroy both the book and its author. Once again, the title is Horns and Halos. Set your VCRs, and check your local listing for the time. Kerry Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Review and Links on Colin Powell -- Coverup of My Lai, Iran-Contra, etc.
-Caveat Lector- colin powell: don't ask about my lai, don't tell about iran-contra http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id803/pg1/ Colin Powell's Legend http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 9-11 Researcher Dick Eastman On Internet Radio Tonight
-Caveat Lector- The program is Mysteries of the Mind, and begins at 6pm Pacific, 9pm Eastern Time. Eastman will be on about 30 minutes into the show. Go to either of these Web pages: http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/mrnews.htm Or just copy this stream URL into your audio player: http://ftp.prmediacast.speedera.net/ftp.prmediacast/Discount_Streaming/asx/mysteriesofthemind.asx www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Race to the Rainbow Bridge (reformatted)
-Caveat Lector- The Race to the Rainbow Bridge The choices are clear: either tyranny or enlightenment By John Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] My first instinct is to tell you this has nothing to do with current events, politics or religion, but in fact it has everything to do with all three. My second instinct is to say the most important principle in human politics is separation of church and state - not to prevent the timeless and proven principles of all religions from benefiting humanity, but simply to preclude the bickering and misunderstanding over terminology that diverts all arguments about what will enable the human race to survive its own nasty habits into frivolous sectarian hairsplitting. As a species, we are on the brink of a passage toward a new way of living, of existing, of organizing human society on our planet. The old way has failed, demonstrably. Power accrued to the hands of a greedy few does not result in trickle-down benificence, as the inbred rich continue to insist. And we have no knowledge that a genuine democracy could achieve a greater degree of justice because no actual democracy has ever been in place. But we do know that the old system produces endless wars and toxic graveyards, so wouldn't it be worth at least a try to attempt genuine democracy just once? Humans are unable to resist material corruption; everyone has a price beyond which their morality fails. We have, by and large, abandoned the exhortations of Jesus to love our neighbors in favor of the bogus belief that money can immunize us from mortality. Can we devise new mechanisms to mentally vaccinate our minds against the temptation of corruption on a social level? As the human species races toward a future of uncertain outcome, these mechanisms must doubtless center on the nature of money. Rather than continue on our present course toward a more definitive master/slave society in which military force is the defining commodity, we need to find a way to amplify the psychological priority of morality and correspondingly lessen the attraction of first-person greed. I know it sounds like some kind of hare-brained rationale of Mao Tse Tung (or I guess today that's spelled Mao Zedong), but can't we rechannel our goals for happiness toward our relationships with others rather than toys for ourselves? It could well be that a merger of banks and churches will one day evolve into a universal currency based dually on morality and the welfare of the system in addition to material worth related solely to survival/comfort of the individual. Capitalism has failed because it relies on slums in which to dump its failed products, as well as an unregulated fluidity at the top with which to constantly bail us out of our busted budgets. A socialist system has almost always failed to overcome the temptations of privilege and authority, and tyrannical corruption has evolved out of noble intentions for the masses in the administrative processes of collectivized wealth disbursal. No system of government ever devised on this planet has ever truly placed control of its resources in the hands of its community. Corruption has always prevailed, and quicker minds have always managed to make off with the loot and let the masses starve. Real wealth always remains in the hands of the privileged few. There is no clearer example of how our religions have failed us. They have all been bought off by secular authorities in exchange for the state-protected right to fleece their flocks. We cannot authentically aspire to real freedom as long as the money supply remains in the hands of a few rich men. As long as it does, we have zero power over the events and processes that control our lives. Of course, currency is a neutral commodity. It has no intrinsic value unto itself. It's obvious worth is what it represents, or the material wealth that it can be traded for, or converted into. It may be impossible to attach a moral quotient to money, because the very act that would link its use to the consensus precepts of a society trying to be moral would necessarily place limits on freedom of choice that probably most of us could not abide. So in improving the nature of money as a possible way to creating a more humane and less cutthroat society, we would probably have to limit our goals to examining the practice of usury, and then more assisduously identify those who actually control the money, which will probably be two of the most difficult and elusive tasks humanity has ever undertaken. That glittering technological marvel called Western Civilization has been built entirely upon usury. Without capital speculation, no skyscraper would ever have been constructed. When will the day come, I wonder, when we ask ourselves this question: Are skyscrapers what we want to express excellence in our civilization? What good are skyscrapers? They are dazzling monuments to greed, that serve no
[CTRL] Afghanistan Invasion Was Planned Before 9-11 -was- Paul O'Neill's [alleged] LIes...
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 04:54:14PM - The invasion of Afghanistan was definitely planned before 9-11. U.S. diplomats announced at a quiet meeting in Berlin in July 2001 that Bush would attack Afghanistan by October of that year. http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/4774 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/155/audio/_1550366_afghan01_arney.ram http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4261737,00.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,556279,00.html Note that both of the U.S. government web pages linked to in the Indymedia article have been removed. The authors of these articles, written soon after 9-11, were under the impression that warning at this meeting of the invasion, conveyed to bin Laden via Pakistan and the Taliban, provoked him to carry out the 9-11 attacks. However, we now know, from the defense stand-down, Pentagon damage details, and many other pieces of evidence, that 9-11 was perpetrated by agents of the Bush Neocon junta. Here is a gateway to 9-11 research sites containing this evidence: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 The real reasons for invading Afghanistan were to build the Unocal pipeline to exploit Caspian Sea oil deposits (specifically needed to bail out a failing Enron power plant in Dabhol, India), restart heroin production in the area (which the Taliban had stopped), and terrorize the world with a capricious display of mass murder by the U.S. government and military. On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 04:54:14PM -, anthony_mcarthur wrote: Hmmm, well, lessee, try and summarize. O'Neill/Suskind are perpetrating a hoax. Cheney and Bush are victims of a dastardly smear campaign. Cheney is obviously innocent because the French are corrupt swine. Perhaps there is a fine line between The Glaring Errors of Suskind and the mangeled defense mechanisms activated to maintain our Pretzeldent's honor in the face of all the vile Bush Haters. I love to see how all these Glaring Errors are brought to light before the book is even published. But even so, the fundamental question is ignored, and since a former top member of the administration now asks it, it deserves even greater scruitiny. And that is: did the Administration preplan not only Iraq, but Afghanistan as well, and was 911 merely the triggering device. We are not talking about a licentious womanizer lying about a blow job. We are talking about people who are willing to lie, kill, and let our own people be blown to bits so that the administration can fulfill it's neocon Mossad wish list (which in no small part includes self enrichment and the massive payola cronyism). If this does not deserve greater scruitiny then... what the hell, Bush should run unapposed and when Colon Powell steps down he can be replaced with that bastion of clearsighted inspiration, Ann Coulter! That would make about as much sense as the jist of what herein was scrawled. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lea Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Laurie Mylroie, wouldn't have thought we would meet again so quickly! Well sure we know it's all about Al Quaeda/ Iraq/terrorism/dictorship/freedom - but would just love to know more about: Cheney's super-secret-energy-task-force-papers!!! anyway Even more so, since now he is on trial in France ... (never mind they are just as corrupt there, with all the money-suitcases circling around Elf-Aquitaine ... ) Barbara http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=11722 Paul O'Neill's Lies About Iraq By John H. Hinderaker PowerLineBlog.com | January 13, 2004 Laurie Mylroie sent out an email about Paul O'Neill's appearance on 60 Minutes last night; she notes what appears to be a major error in Ron Suskind's book, which casts doubt on the credibility of both Suskind and O'Neill. Here is the key portion of Mylroie's email: In his appearance this evening on '60 Minutes,' Ron Suskind, author of The Price of Loyalty, based to a large extent on information from former Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill, made an astonishing, very serious misstatement. Suskind claimed he has documents showing that preparations for the Iraq war were well underway before 9-11. He cited--and even showed--what he said was a Pentagon document, entitled, 'Foreign Suitors for Iraq Oilfield Contracts.' He claimed the document was about planning for post-war Iraq oil (CBS's promotional story also contained that claim): http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/printable592330.shtml But that is not a Pentagon document. It's from the Vice-President's Office. It was part of the Energy Project that was the focus of Dick Cheney's attention before the 9/11 strikes. And the document has nothing to do with post-war Iraq. It was part of a study of global oil supplies. Judicial Watch obtained it in a law suit and posted it, along with related
[CTRL] Bush-Nazi Files Ready For Download!
-Caveat Lector- White Rose is the most extensive website detailing the support of Hitler's Nazi regime by the Bush family and other predatory U.S. businessmen. It has won many awards from anti-fascist organizations. http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm This information is extremely important in the current political situation. So the author, Glen Yeadon, has made a zip file of the entire site (487 files, 5808145 bytes), and it's available at: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/whiterose.zip Please download this 6 MB file (which takes about 20 minutes by modem, or 30 seconds by DSL or cable), and put it in a directory (folder) on your disk. You can unzip it (using WinZip, etc.), and put all the files into that directory. You can then read them with your web browser, starting at the file whiterose.htm . You can also upload the files to a directory on your website, and thereby instantly create a White Rose mirror site. (Almost all Internet accounts come with free web space of at least 10 megabytes.) We urge you to make a mirror site if the original on spiritone.com disappears. But please download the zip file now, in case cosmicpenguin.com disappears! http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/whiterose.zip Since this information is so important it is vital that as many people as possible download a copy of the zip file and keep it. If you have any questions, please write me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Glen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Slavery By Bankers And Debt - How We Can Break Free!
-Caveat Lector- Resources for Community Currency Activists http://www.communitycurrency.org/resources.html Community Currencies http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/ An Example: Guernsey's Monetary Experiment Ardeshir Mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: THIS is how we can break free of the clutches of the Mammonites, who control our every move by constantly forcing us into greater and greater debt. This is how we can break free of SLAVERY! http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/Guernsey.html [QUOTE] GUERNSEY'S MONETARY EXPERIMENT by Louis Even Guernsey is a small island located in the English Channel. An Anglo-Norman population. This island is located closer to the French coast than to the English one. At the close of the Napoleonic wars, the island, like several other countries, was in pitiful condition, both physically and financially. No money Sea walls, roads, markets were needed. There was no manpower shortage. But there was no money to pay for these works. The money used by the people on the Island was the money from England, the pound sterling. But, like after any war, the financiers were calling back the money advanced to finance the slaughter, and the pounds sterling were very scarce everywhere. The Island had an autonomous government, the States of Guernsey. So it had the rights inherent in all sovereign government, among other rights, that of regulating the volume of money in circulation in the country. But, no more than any other country, the States of Guernsey had thought of exercising this sovereign prerogative. An intelligent governor The Island was especially in need of a new market house, and a committee was set up to take care of it. The committee went to see the governor to explain the situation to him : We need a new Market, but we have no money to build it. With what material are you going to build a market? asked the governor. With stone and wood. Do you have it in the island? Certainly, and in plenty. Do you have workers? Yes again. But it is money that is lacking. Could not your parliament issue the money? asked the governor. A new idea! This idea had never occurred to the committeemen, who had never analysed the money question. They knew where to get money when there was some: but they never wondered where money begins or can begin. The method of taxing when there was money was quite familiar. But the method of infecting the money that is lacking, and of taxing only after, was something new to our administrators. ISSUES OF NATIONAL CURRENCY An estimate of the cost was prepared and the States printed the money required, which was paid to those who either worked on the project or furnished materials for it. As the new currency was paid out into circulation among the people, exchanges were being expedited. The wage-earners went to the shopkeepers, the shopkeepers went to the producers, the producers bought enough to increase their production. The currency was accepted everywhere. The government took measures against inflation by decreeing hat money would be withdrawn by taxes, so it does not accumulate. And, in fact, the money was retired on schedule by taxes. But, as the increasing activity required a corresponding volume of money, other issues were brought out by the government for other works. On October 12, 1822, the new Market House was completed and opened. Not a penny of public debt on this public enterprise. THE BANKERS INTERVENE At the time of the original issue, there was no bank upon the Island. This explains, without doubt, why there was no opposition to the issue of State money. But ten years after the first issue, the Island had become so prosperous, thanks to the activity allowed by a sufficient volume of money, that the banks of England had an eye on this island. English bankers set up branches in the island and brought the population around to orthodox rules. It was unsound. They said, to let the government finance its enterprises without getting into debt. The bankers did everything to stop further issues, to introduce the system of interest-bearing loans to the government, and to withdraw from the island the State money that had been paid out into circulation. There was some resistance, but the bankers won their point, with their usual methods; and on October 9, 1836, the States of Guernsey had abdicated their sovereign prerogative over the control of the volume of money. From then on, the amount of the national currency decreased gradually, and was replaced by money issued by private bankers in the form of loans getting the island into debt. Nevertheless, there is still about 40 000 pounds sterling ($200 000) of national currency outstanding at this date in the Island. (According to Gertrude M. Coogan in Money Creators, published in 1935). WHY A FINANCIAL PROBLEM? As we can see, with natural resources, workers, and a bit of common sense, there is no financial problem. But when shrewd exploiters want to regulate economic activities
Re: [CTRL] radicalmiddle.com
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:32:39PM -0600 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Zuukie, would you please tell us exactly what on that website explains the source of the conspiracies taking place here in the US ? Actually, I don't know what you mean by that phrase. Do you mean the origin of the Neocons that have seized power in the U.S.? Or do you mean the origins of the explanations for 9-11 that attributes the attacks to the Neocons? On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:32:39PM -0600, Zuukie wrote: Conspiracy? Go to radicalmiddle.com to see the source of the conspiracies taking place here in the US. Take the time to read the various headings. This is a repeat of earlier information. Shannon repeats the same story many times over each day. It would be easy to overlook the importance of the information coming from the radicalmiddle.com in the midst of his barrage. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Media in Bed with Gays (Homosexuals) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 06:55:25AM -0500 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 The article below illustrates the level of psychosis -- separation from reality -- of some religious fundamentalists. They perceive as vermin people who believe and act differently from themselves, even though those people are not doing any harm. This because they have been programmed with a religious book written many thousands of years ago by largely ignorant and hostile nomadic tribesmen. By labelling homosexual people as vermin, the fundamentalists are giving orders to their followers to attack and murder them, just as the Nazis described Jews as vermin prior to their extermination program. Furthermore, while castigating gay and bisexual men for promiscuity leading to the transmission of diseases, the fundamentalists are fiercely opposed to allowing them to marry, which, of course, would lead to a *decrease* in promiscuity! The essence of fundamentalism is to believe what one is told by the leaders, and to steadfastly ignore all contradictions with reality. In other words, fundamentalists must reject reason. They must refuse to think. On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 06:55:25AM -0500, William Bacon wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:59:26 -0800 From: PETER L SROUFE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: APFN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], PIML [EMAIL PROTECTED], SNETNEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: Media in Bed with Gays (Homosexuals) (Make certain you read ALL of the following. Pray for this vermin so that they will soon see the Light and mend their sinful lifestyle.) Media in Bed with Gays (Homosexuals) By Cliff Kincaid December 10, 2003 The Washington Post said it didn't want to generate a truckload of indignant letters, but it nevertheless tried to compare opposition to homosexual marriage to old laws against blacks getting married to whites. For the Post, opposing the gay agenda is tantamount to racism. The New York Times endorsed homosexual marriage as well, saying any attempt to amend the constitution to prohibit the practice would be an effort to deny minority rights. On the same day these editorials appeared, the Centers for Disease Control, CDC, revealed that the syphilis rate in the United States rose in 2002 for the second consecutive year, following a decade-long decline that led to an all-time low in 2000. It said the increase was due in large part to increases in reported syphilis cases among men, particularly gay and bisexual men. Syphilis can cause serious heart abnormalities, mental disorders, blindness, other neurological problems, and death. Last July the CDC reported that data from 25 states with longstanding HIV reporting show the number of new HIV diagnoses among homosexual and bisexual men increased by 7.1 percent, from 2001 to 2002. The CDC said this indicated that homosexuals remain at high, and perhaps increasing, risk for HIV infection. It said that, HIV diagnoses for gay and bisexual men have increased by 17.7 percent since the lowest point in 1999 but that new HIV cases in other vulnerable groups have remained stable since 2001. In order to keep the media from focusing on that kind of information, the Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, GLAAD, has produced a resource kit for the media. It wants homosexuals presented as normal people and warns the media against running film clips of outrageous gay pride parades or footage shot inside gay bars and clubs. In making the case for homosexual marriage, GLAAD suggests looking at how newspapers are increasingly accepting announcements for same-sex weddings or unions. The Post and the Times, two of those papers, were undoubtedly among the media referred to by Timothy Dailey of the Family Research Council when he wrote about how Hollywood and the media relentlessly propagate the image of the fit, healthy, and well-adjusted homosexual. Dailey said that the Homosexual activists attempt to portray their lifestyle as normal and healthy, and insist that homosexual relationships are the equivalent in every way to their heterosexual counterparts. But the reality is quite different. Citing government studies and reports in gay papers themselves, Dailey writes that, Instability and promiscuity typically characterize homosexual relationships. These two factors increase the incidence of serious and incurable STDs. Commenting on Dailey's research and study, Robert Knight of the Culture and Family Institute said that, Nobody could think about homosexuality as something normal and healthy after reviewing this. Of course, the major media will do their best to ignore it. GLAAD will make sure of that. Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of the AIM Report and can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Evidence That Sen. Paul Wellstone Was Assassinated
-Caveat Lector- Duluth News Tribune | 11/20/2003 | One man's opinion: Evidence indicates that Wellstone crash was no accident http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthtribune/news/opinion/7306797.htm duluthtribune.com - The duluthtribune home page Posted on Thu, Nov. 20, 2003 Point of View by JIM FETZER One man's opinion: Evidence indicates that Wellstone crash was no accident Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was a serious man who cared profoundly about his fellow citizens. He took courageous stands against an administration that he viewed with profound suspicion, arguing eloquently against tax cuts for the rich, the subversion of the Constitution, and violating international accords. He would have led the opposition to the war in Iraq if only he had had the chance. Everyone knew it and he may have died because of it. For nearly a year now, evidence has been accumulating about the event that ended the life of this magnificent human being. Whatever caused the crash was not the plane, the pilots or the weather. In spite of what you may have heard, the plane was exceptional, the pilots well-qualified and the weather posed no significant problems. Even the National Transportation Safety Board's own simulations of the plane, the pilots and the weather were unable to bring the plane down. This means we have to consider other, less palatable, alternatives, such as small bombs, gas canisters or electromagnetic pulse, radio frequency or High Energy Radio Frequency weapons designed to overwhelm electrical circuitry with an intense electromagnetic field. An abrupt cessation of communication between the plane and the tower took place at about 10:18 a.m., the same time an odd cell phone phenomenon occurred with a driver in the immediate vicinity. This suggests to me the most likely explanation is that one of our new electromagnetic weapons was employed. The politics of the situation were astonishing. The senator was pulling away from the hand-picked candidate of the Bush machine. Its opportunity to seize control of the U.S. Senate was slipping from its grasp. Its vaunted invincibility was being challenged by an outspoken critic of its most basic values. Targeted for elimination, he was going to survive. Here's one man's opinion: Under such conditions, the temptation to take him out may have been irresistible. Among the striking indications that something was wrong with the NTSB in its inquiry into the causes of the crash is that Carol Carmody, a former employee with the CIA, the head of the team, announced the day after that the FBI had found no indications of terrorist involvement. Yet it is the responsibility of the NTSB to ascertain the cause of the crash, which has yet to be determined to this very day. So how could the FBI possibly know? The FBI's prompt arrival was peculiar. As Christopher Bollyn of American Free Press reported (www.rumor millnews.net, Oct. 29, 2002), According to Rick Wahlberg, then St. Louis County sheriff, a team of FBI agents was quickly on the crash site about noon, less than an hour after (assistant manager Gary) Ulman and the (fire) chief had first located the site and found a way to access the wreck. This FBI team had come from the distant Twin Cities in record time! When Bollyn asked Ulman if he had notified the FBI about the accident, Ulman said he had not spoken with the bureau at any time. Asked how the FBI got to the site so quickly, Ulman said that he assumed they had come from Duluth. AFP contacted the Duluth office of the FBI and was told that the team of 'recovery' agents had not come from Duluth but had traveled from the FBI office in Minneapolis. I calculate that this team would have had to have left the Twin Cities at about the same time the Wellstone plane was taking off. Gary Ulman confirmed to me that the FBI had been on the scene no later than 1 p.m. I have reviewed the log books maintained by the Sheriff's Department at Eveleth and have discovered that they are grossly incomplete and cannot confirm when the FBI showed up. The FAA has told me that its records of private aircraft arriving in Duluth that morning have been destroyed, even though they might verify the FBI's early arrival. And the NTSB has canceled sessions where it would ordinarily take input from the public. Michael Ruppert (fromthe wilderness.com, Nov. 1, 2002) has reported, The day after the crash I received a message from a former CIA operative who has proven extremely reliable in the past and who is personally familiar with these kinds of assassinations. The message read, 'As I said earlier, having played ball (and still playing in some respects) with this current crop of reinvigorated old white men, these clowns are nobody to screw around with. There will be a few more strategic accidents. You can be certain of that.' If you think that's a stretch, consider: Hundreds of young Americans have been put in harm's way by a war that was promoted on the basis of lies about weapons of mass
Re: [CTRL] regarding religious right
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0600 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0600, Marti Maurer wrote: Prudy L - why don`t you fill me in on just what the religious right is. I just don`t seem to know as much as you. M Maurera soldier for Jesus Christ Hah! Here's a real soldier for Jesus Christ: Gen. JC Christian, Patriot http://patriotboy.blogspot.com And he'd love to fill you in! www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Who Killed Kennedy and Why? - Special Broadcast
-Caveat Lector- Who Killed Kennedy and Why? A KPFA Guns and Butter Special Saturday evening, November 22nd 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. PST at 94.1 FM in the KPFA listening area www.kpfa.org for Internet streaming Ralph Schoenman's riveting expose' of how U.S. rulers, with blood on their hands, devour their own. This two-hour KPFA Guns and Butter special is brought to you on the 40th anniversary of the execution of the President of the United States. At the time of the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Ralph Schoenman was Executive Director of the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation. In early 1964, he formed and directed the Who Killed Kennedy Committee? in London with Bertrand Russell and other prominent figures. The Committee uncovered explosive documents, including files from the Dallas D.A.'s office that exposed the government cover-up. Ralph Schoenman collaborated for years with New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison in documenting the role of the CIA in the murder of Kennedy, and testified with Dick Gregory before the Rockefeller Commission in 1975. He has lectured at over 100 universities in the United States in addition to those in many other countries on the untold evidence and underlying political dynamics of the execution of John F. Kennedy, and official murder in America. Saturday evening, November 22nd, 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. PST, KPFA, 94.1 FM or www.kpfa.org Copies of this program (CD or audiocassette) are available from the Center for Independent Communication. Contact either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone broadcast weekly - Taking Aim with Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone - on WBAI-NY (99.5 FM), Tuesdays at 5:00 p.m. EST / 2:00 p.m. PST, and can be heard via Internet streaming at www.wbai.org Guns and Butter, produced by Bonnie Faulkner and Yarrow Mahko, broadcasts weekly on KPFA (94.1 FM), Wednesdays at 2:00 p.m. PST / 5:00 p.m. EST, and can be heard via Internet streaming at www.kpfa.org Check out the websites www.takingaim.info (including program audio archive) and www.gunsandbutter.net www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hafnium-178m2 - A New Superbomb?
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:24:10AM -0500 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:24:10AM -0500, William Shannon wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/09/28/MN23720.DTLtype=science http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/28/SUPERBOMB.TMP Superbomb ignites science dispute ... The key to the concept is a little known element called hafnium. By figuring out how to unleash the abundant energy from a hafnium isotope, called hafnium-178, the military hopes to develop a new generation of weapons. ... Sadly, under the current system of predatory capitalism (in which the real axis of evil is the U.S., Israel, and England), any new source of energy is used by the wealthy ruling elite -- now embodied in the Bush Nazi junta -- not to benefit people, but for mass murder in order to increase their profits and power, e.g., Secret heat-beam weapon used in Iraq: http://www.rense.com/general40/secret.htm Israelis threaten to nuke Europe: http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=2929 Regarding this new energy source, it's only a particular nuclear isomer of the isotope hafnium-178 that contains the energy, namely hafnium-178m2. The S.F. Chronicle article is a bit blurry on this. So far, the isomer can only be produced by transmutation in a nuclear reactor or particle accelerator (by bombardment of tantalum with high-energy protons). The nucleus of every atom of a given element has the same number of protons (the atomic number), since that determines the electron orbit structure, and thus the chemical properties of the element. However, atoms of an element may contain different numbers of neutrons, making them different isotopes, with different nuclear properties and atomic weights, e.g., uranium 235 and 238. Finally, atoms of a particular isotope of an element may have different arrangements, or energy states, of the protons and neutrons in the nucleus, making them different nuclear isomers. Here are some additional articles, and an audio interview, turned up by a Google search on hafnium-178: http://www.rnw.nl/science/html/031020isomer.html http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/rnw/science/031020isomer.rm http://www.rnw.nl/science/html/031027isomer.html http://www.rnw.nl/hotspots/html/iso031024.html http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-08/ns-gw081303.php http://physicsweb.org/article/world/12/5/3 http://www.cat.ernet.in/lasernews/ln991/ln991n05.html http://www.speculist.com/archives/83.html http://www.llnl.gov/llnl/06news/NewsReleases/2001/NR-01-08-05.html http://policy.iop.org/v_production/pdf/v3www.pdf www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Killer Weed???
-Caveat Lector- Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Tom Mooney wrote, in reference to the newspaper article quoted below, What a load of fertilizer... peace, Tom Indeed. This article repeats all the lies about cannabis that were disproved years ago, but are still being fed to U.S. television viewers by the Partnership For A Drug-Free America, an organization funded by alcohol, tobacco, and pharmaceutical companies! Cannabis doesn't cause depression, but depressed people do sometimes smoke it, because it makes them -- like everyone else -- feel better. It does not make people drill holes in their head with a power drill (but it may make them eat an entire bag of chocolate chip cookies). Cannabis, in reasonable doses, does not cause major impairment of driving ability (although one should *not* drive while under its influence), but people who smoke it test positive for it for a month or more, so the claim that XX% of reckless drivers test positive for marijuana does not imply any cause-and-effect relationship -- they may have smoked it weeks ago. The potency of high-quality marijuana has increased only by a factor of two since the '60s, but it doesn't matter anyhow, because people titrate to effect, i.e., smoke the amount that gives them the effect they want. So with higher potency pot, they just smoke less. And it does not have ravaging effects on the brain, according to scientific studies of the brains of monkeys that were given large doses of the drug. But it *does* have ravaging effects on the ability of the ruling elite to keep the population in a state of permanent hypnosis where they will passively do what they're told and not object to endless wars and being robbed of almost all the value of the goods and services their labor produces. The major War on Drugs was begun in America after the elite realized that cannabis played a major part in people waking up and protesting the Vietnam War. This was very troubling to the rulers, who were forced to end their war after killing only 4,000,000 people. These web pages debunk the lies, and have references to the scientific literature: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info14.shtml http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_flyer1.shtml http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth17.shtml On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 06:58:09AM -0800, Tom Mooney wrote: Cannabis Use Causes 'Hundreds Of Deaths A Year' By Julie Henry Education Correspondent The Telegraph - UK 11-2-3 Britain's most senior coroner is warning that hundreds of young people are dying in accidents caused by their prolonged use of cannabis. Hamish Turner, the president of the Coroners' Society, said that the drug, which is often portrayed as harmless, has increasingly been behind deaths that have been recorded as accidents or suicides. In the past year, he estimated that cannabis was a significant contributory factor in about 10 per cent of the 100 cases that he had dealt with in south Devon, where he works. Conversations with his colleagues led him to believe that the scale of the problem elsewhere in the country was equally bad. Cannabis is as dangerous as any other drug and people must understand that it kills, said Mr Turner. From my long experience I can say that it is a very dangerous substance. Increasingly it is mentioned not only as the first drug taken by people who overdose, but also in suicides and accidental deaths. It is an awful waste of young lives. People are trying the drug at a very young age. Many go on to harder drugs and I am dealing with more and more heroin overdoses. People can also suffer severe consequences from the cannabis alone, however. Bereaved parents say to me, 'We didn't realise how dangerous it was until it was too late, if only we had done something'. It is heartbreaking. Recent examples of the dangers of the drug cited by Mr Turner include the case of James Taylor, a 31-year-old, who was found hanged in his Torquay flat. The inquest heard that he had started smoking cannabis when he was about 15 and was a habitual user. The drug was blamed for the depression and mental health problems that later plagued him and which led to his death. Mary Taylor, his mother, said that there was no doubt in her mind that cannabis had killed her son. The cannabis made him paranoid from the word go. He went from a good-looking, artistic, talented chap to someone who did not trust anyone, not even his sister, who he was very close to. Because of the damage the drug did to him he became more isolated, more lonely and more depressed. The loveliest boy was destroyed by this drug. I would never have believed that James would have acted as he did when he took his own life. People who insist that cannabis is harmless are talking rubbish. We had years of hell when James was on cannabis, and that was all he was taking. Now he is dead and our family life has been devastated.
[CTRL] Antienvironment Group: American Policy Center -was- URGENT ALERT!...
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:54:12AM -0500 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Here's a report on the antienvironment organization American Policy Center and its leader Tom DeWeese. This group keeps its funding sources secret, but if it's like other antienvironment groups it's funded by the ultra-wealthy owners of timber, real estate, chemical, etc., companies, who don't want any government regulations interfering with their destruction of the planet for profit. For example, it claims that global warming is a myth. http://www.clearproject.org/reports_apc.html CLEAR PROFILE: AMERICAN POLICY CENTER 13873 Park Center Road, Suite 316. Herndon, Virginia 20171 Phone - 703-925-0881 o Fax- 703-925-0991 Web Site - www.americanpolicy.org Email- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Compiled 1998 Overview: Established 1988, formerly the Foreign Policy Centre. Lobbied Congress for aid to freedom fighters in Angola and Nicaragua and opposes returning control of Panama Canal to Panama. Main areas of activity include opposition to US involvement in the United Nations and Outcome Based Education. Promotes a hard right view on limited government with frequent reliance on conspiracy theory and sensationalistic fund raising letters. The American Policy Center is a 501(c)4 tax-exempt organization. APC is affiliated the 501(c)3 American Policy Foundation which provides research and educational services to APC, 501(c)3 Putting Liberty First, and the for-profit DeWeese Company. APC claims to be able to reach up to one million activists in a matter of hours through its action alert system. DeWeese claims 350 talk radio shows are members of the alert system, and claims to reach thousands more through the APC website. (fundraising letter, March 1998) Claims three million people are reached by direct mail campaigns, delivering the facts on the radical environmental agenda as well as the lates outrages from the United Nations. (Insider's report, January 1998). Publications have quoted Michael Coffman and Henry Lamb at length, included their writings. APC networks with groups like Lamb and Coffman's Sovereignty International and Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum. (also March 1998 fund raising letter). Demand US get out of th UN. General preoccupation with a United Nations take-over of the US, with repeated ridiculous statements such as I have warned that the U.N. land grab of sovereign U.S. soil could put 50% of our nation off-limits to human activity. (Fundraising letter, February 1997). Every Insider's Report, mailed monthly, is accompanied by a desperate or urgent fundraising plea. Key Personnel: o Tom DeWeese. President. Long history of direct mail fundraising schemes, still carried out by DeWeese Company. Serves on the executive committee of Chuck Rent a Riot Cushman's Grassroots ESA Coalition, which opposes the Endangered Species Act, and is on the advisory council of Sovereignty International. o Steve Symms. Chairman, Board of Advisors. Former U.S .Senator. UN conspiracy whack ball. o Kathleen Marquardt. Vice President. Formerly of Putting People First, then Putting Liberty First, an organization now subsumed by APC o Bonner Cohen. Member, Board of Advisors. EPA Watch. worked with DeWeese since the 1980s. o Arnold Beichman. Member, Board of Advisors. Hoover Institution (APC Wrote Institute.) o Andrew J. Gatsis. Member, Board of Advisors. JBS member, UN conspiracy guy, basic freak. o Willard Pearson. Currently listed as member of Board of Advisors. Deceased since 1996? o Phillip Abbott Luce. Member, Board of Advisors. Another right wing extremist. Advocated deported Arab-Americans in the 1980's, accusing them forming a secret terrorist organization. Highlights: Blocked statehood for the District of Columbia by gathering 10,000 signatures (1996?) . Co-sponsor of Conservative Political Action Conference in 1994. Financial supporter of Bonner Cohen's EPA Watch publication. In 1995 the American Policy Foundation awarded research grants to employee Bonner Cohen, and to Wise Use group Stewards of the Range. (Right Guide 1998). Called for December 5, 1997 Strike for Liberty, a loosely organized event to protest the Kyoto Treaty. (It included a call for all talk radio shows to play Proud to be an American followed by the Star Spangled Banner). Though Alan Caruba of the National Anxiety Center was in charge of the publicity, a Lexis Nexis search yielded zero press accounts of the strike. Caruba, whose organization is a clearinghouse for information about media driven scare campaigns has also been a contributor to the Insider's report. Opposed the American Heritage River Initiative as one of
[CTRL] EVIDENCE THAT DIEBOLD MACHINES ALTERED VOTES IN CALIF ELECTION!!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/ Mark Crispin Miller News from Underground Wednesday, October 08, 2003 IRREGULARITIES IN CALIFORNIA RACE!! Long-shot candidates do startlingly well in Tulare County DIEBOLD MACHINES YIELD FISHY RESULTS!! My friend in South Carolina writes: I ran a number crunch of CA counties that use Diebold machines to cast/count votes and found some weird figures that show a skim of votes from top candidates to people who were unlikely to affect the outcome. I did my hand calculator work on the California election results (from the secretary of state's site) when 96% of precincts had reported. The website showed: Counties using Diebold Touchscreens: Alemeda, Plumas Counties using Diebold Optiscan: Fresno, Humboldt, Kern, Lassen, Marin, Placer, San Joaquin, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Trinity, Tulare. There were a total of 1,403,375 votes cast in these counties combined. The CA total was 7,842,630 at this stage of the count. Thus 17.89% of all the state votes were cast/counted on Diebold equipment. I had earlier noticed some lower order candidates (ones who couldn't affect the result) were getting unusually large numbers of votes in Tulare county. I decided to test to see if the these and other 'fringe' candidates might be used to receive skimmed votes in other Diebold counties. Method: I added all the votes cast/counted on Diebold equipment for each candidate and expressed it as a percentage of their total votes cast state wide. The following table lists: Candidate name, votes counted for them in Diebold counties, CA state total votes counted for that candidate and what percentage of that candidate's total votes were counted in Diebold counties. It looks like, as one might expect, at the top of the list as if there is a slight variance from an even state wide distribution. However many 'lower ticket' candidates have vote totals that ONLY correlate with the use of Diebold equipment! I have included some names chosen at random from the result list that show that not all lower order candidates were used to receive skimmed votes. Note that Diebold's counties are spread geographically over the whole of California. I have checked background on the skewed result candidates and they are not residents of the counties where they got very high percentage results. In one case, Palmieri, the candidate was surprised to hear about Tulare county (I emailed him) and had not been there nor had family or friends there. In fact, his platform was Don't vote for me. He described this vote pattern as strange. State total = 7,842,630. Cast in Diebold counties = 1,403,375 17.89% of the total votes cast. Schwarzenegger 581,145 3,552,78716.36% Bustamante 447,008 2,379,74018.78% McLintock 186,923 979,23419.08% Camejo 39,199 207,27018.9 % Huffington 7,498 42,13117.79% Ueberoth 3,365 21,37815.74% Flynt2,384 15,01015.88% Coleman 1,869 12,44315.02% Simon1,351 7,64817.66% Palmieri 2,542 3,71768.3 % Louie 598 3,19818.7 % Kunzman 1,957 2,13391.75% Roscoe 325 1,94116.7 % Sprague 1,026 1,57665.10% Macaluso 592 1,50439.36% Price 477 1,01147.18% Quinn 220 43350.8 % Martorana 165 42039.28% Gosse 60 41914.3 % Conclusion Based on the very unlikely distribution of votes for some candidates (a meteor hit my car twice this week sort of odds) a hand count of the affected counties to compare with the machine reported count should be done. This would show that the machines had been tampered with to alter the results. As we already know, it is not possible to audit touchscreen machines because Diebold refuse to allow printing of a ballot to be placed in a box as a back up for use in just such an apparent tampering with votes. For those who are unsure of figures: California is huge and has a population similar to many European nations. Lower order candidates had little or no ability to spread any sort of message to parts of the state beyond their own home and/or where they have previously lived. One would expect some of the 'fringe' candidates to do well in their home county and then to have a very even distribution across the rest of the state. That is not the case. In Diebold counties (those who use machines made by Diebold, a corporation that supports George Bush) the results are skewed towards low scoring candidates by unbelievably large amounts. The probability of scoring twice the expected average county % could charitably be construed as the upper limit of the possible. Some candidates exceed that figure in Diebold counties by a four or five fold margin. If you have done statistics, you know that is so
[CTRL] Pentagon Links and Analysis
-Caveat Lector- The following info on the Pentagon hit was posted without attribution to a 9-11 list I'm on. I don't have the time or the knowledge to evaluate its accuracy, but it looks interesting. There are lots of web links at the end. Forwarded message --- Thought you might be interested in this list I've been putting together, and my latest thoughts on the Pentagon scenario. The Rense mystery line pic was indeed 4 days before 9/11 per Space Imaging. The line is meaningless, but my firepit observation is now more cogent. The first links you already have. The latter ones are high res shots from different places. The Purdue info is interesting. I made the comment some time ago about the same mechanical effect of the fuel in the WTC impacts. The list below is a work in progress. Please provide me more quality links if you have them. The interesting things to note from these links are the Pentagon trees, the mysterious line in the grass photo was truly taken on 9/7/2001, so therefore my earlier firepit observation is still in play. It does appear also that the large central fire left after the main fireball, is the one tree that was in the path of the plane. Some of the pics prove that there was no confetti storm out on the highway as reported. Notice the Purdue simulation carries the fuel well into the building and the fuselage seems to stop well short of the punchout hole. Note that they claim that it is the incompressible liquid fuel that is responsible for most of the physical (non-fire) damage, not the plane's aluminum. There are very many more pics of the punchout hole. I think only a 757 engine could possibly make this size and shape hole, and in doing so it necessarily needed to bounce off some columns to do so and make a major impact in the B ring. Yet, it was not reported to be an engine (757 or F16) which made the hole, either it was reported as the nose or the front landing gear. A missile that created this size hole would also damage the B ring and the columns just in front of the punchout hole, yet it did not per the damage reports and the pics. In fact, these last C ring columns are reported to have only minor damage such as concrete spalling. To me the significance of the location of the strike is being missed. It is important for the following reasons: 1. It occurred at the location of the newly reinforced area which was still 5 days away from completion. This means a naturally low occupancy rate. This can also be seen on the Arlington County After Report floor plans. They could limit casualties to expendable personnel and those they needed to 'disappear'. 2. It took place just in front of the expansion joint. Why? The better to collapse and impede an investigation My Dear. This is because the ability to transfer weight load to adjacent columns is at its weakest at the expansion joint. 3. The impact took place only involving the first and second floors. These floors are the only ones which provide a contiguous reach from the E ring to the back of the C ring. Hence there is no need to provide for extra egress and entrance holes between the intermediate ring walls. If the released parking lot security camera clip really shows an F16, why would the Pentagon release this image? Is Dick Eastman's missile trail really a missile or would it more likely be velocity induced steam from the wingtip vortex as commonly seen on fighter jets flying at high speed and low altitude? Or could it be engine induced vapor contrail? Or, is the whole thing fake to purposely create controversy, which is their best friend? We actually have enough quality overhead photos including the known official flight path (via the plotting of the downed light poles) to calculate precisely where the plane's nose should appear in the photo using the tail as a baseline. Could an F16 with only a 31 foot wingspan have 'clipped' all 5 light poles? I don't think so. If so, in this case the light poles were props. If they were props for this scenario, then they could just as easily be props for the 757 scenario as well. The largest photo of a downed light pole shows it not only clipped at the top and having broken / sheared off the 4 bolts at its base, but that it is severely bent. My understanding of metals is that shearing of this type and bending of this magnitude are incompatible. Either one or the other will occur depending upon the force parameters applied. And don't forget that just prior to the 757 having literally come in right off the deck, it is reported to have just completed a steep dive from 7700 feet and a 270 degree turn. Finally, should not a 757 flying at speed flip a few cars on the highway and also even the parked vehicles next to the Pentagon? Boeing 757-200 dimensions wingspan is 124' 10 fuselage width - 12' 4, fuselage height 13' 2 http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/aircompat/acaps/753sec2.pdf Arlington County After Report with Pentagon Floor Plan and damage zone in
[CTRL] Sobig.F Virus Sent To CTRL List -was- [CTRL] Thank you!
-Caveat Lector- Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 A message containing the infamous Sobig.F virus was sent to the CTRL list at 12:49 PM Central time today, 8/28/2003. The Subject line reads: [CTRL] Thank you! I traced it by the headers to a car dealership in Texas (not to Kris -- the From line is fake), and phoned them, reaching a knowledgeable person. They have been hit hard by the virus, and despite their efforts to decontaminate all their machines some copies are still circulating. They will again disinfect the computer that sent this virus. As someone else wrote, everyone should update their antivirus software; this is the largest virus episode ever. You might also consider switching from MS-Windows to Linux. Linux, and all the software that runs on it that most people need, is free, and also immune to viruses. You can even run many (but not all) Windows programs on it. The viral message, with the actual virus completely removed, is shown below. Mark Received: from lmailaol2.aol.com (lmailaol2.aol.com [152.163.225.40]) by server.radio4houston.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h7SHncd13771 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:49:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM (tem01.mx.aol.com) by lmailaol2.aol.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:50:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by LISTSERV.AOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 10471797 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:49:18 -0400 Received: from FINANCEUSEDCARS (66-140-241-27.ded.swbell.net [66.140.241.27]) by listserv.aol.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h7SHnG413631 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:49:16 -0400 (EDT) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=_NextPart_000_1A0BA5C9 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:49:12 --0500 Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Thank you! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list This is a multipart message in MIME format --_NextPart_000_1A0BA5C9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -Caveat Lector- Please see the attached file for details. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=ctrlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --_NextPart_000_1A0BA5C9 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=wicked_scr.scr Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=wicked_scr.scr [base64-encoded virus was located here] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 05:56:03PM -0400 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 05:56:03PM -0400, iNFoWaRZ wrote: I see you have swallowed the whole queer propaganda lie, hook, line, and sinker. The purported facts in your post are total BS. In other words, they are lies. The anonymous iNFoWaRZ has not given any evidence to disprove anything that I wrote. As are the opinions in your post although you are entitled to that. But your post shows who and what you are. You condemn morality and virtue I totally support morality and virtue, which consist of helping people (and other living things) and not harming them. The anonymous iNFoWaRZ has not given any evidence that homosexuality (when performed with the usual precautions necessary for any sexual activity) harms anyone. and praise corruptness Corruptness basically means being of such a nature as to do harm, and homosexuality does not do harm, so his statement is false. and perversion. Perversion simply means a sexual or other act of which the speaker disapproves. One person's perversion is another person's snuggly love. At the same time you infer bigotry, though a twisted definition of the same, on those that oppose this Bigotry in this context means the unjustified hatred of innocent people -- those who are doing no harm. That is exactly what these anti-gay messages express. criminal Many harmless behaviors have been legislated to be considered criminal. Sometimes this legislation has been rescinded. Consensual adult sex, the publication and broadcast of sexual material, the growing, manufacture, sale, and use of non-injurious herbs and drugs, and many other non-harmful acts have been declared criminal. The label criminal has no reliable correlation with morality (i.e., not doing harm). unnatural behavior, Homosexual behavior is widespread in all human cultures, and in many other animal species. It is definitely natural. you have managed to expose yourself thoroughly as an anti-religious bigot, of the correct definition. I can substantiate all the statements I made about fundamentalist Judaeo-Christian religions, with quotes from the Bible and historical facts. If you beleive you are doing something good, you are wrong. What good can come from tearing down the moral foundations of a nation? Putting forth a sane, pro-human definition of morality -- Don't harm people; help them -- is very beneficial to every nation. At 05:22 PM 8/10/03 , you wrote: Homosexuality -- in fact, any sexual activity between consenting adults -- does not harm anyone (as long as the participants avoid unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease). Sexual activity -- the sharing of mutual pleasure -- is in fact beneficial: it often brings people closer together, and it discharges energy that otherwise might lead to frustration and anger. The purpose of moral rules is to minimize harm to people, so that all may live happily and successfully. Therefore the only basis of morality that makes any sense is, Do not harm anyone. By this sane pro-human standard, homosexuality and homosexual people are not immoral (as such) in any way. The only reason some people believe they are immoral is the influence of fundamentalist Judaeo-Christian religions. These religions are in many ways profoundly anti-human; their leaders and holy books have variously advocated and praised the genocide of many millions of people, as well as the murder of women who have sex before marriage, the murder of adherents of other religions, and the practice of genital mutilation. HIV/AIDS was spread in African nations, and in the male homosexual population in the U.S., by vaccines that were contaminated with the virus (probably intentionally). That is an appropriate topic of discussion for this list. The spewing of murderous hatred against harmless people, as motivated by fundamentalist religion, is not. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
[CTRL] Evolution and Conspiracy -was- Anti-Gay Hate Messages
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:26:41AM -0700 On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:26:41AM -0700, Nessie SFBG wrote: When did they (the so-called scientists) find the missing link? Long ago, and they keep finding more. The fossil record, though still not complete, is more than complete enough to demonstrate the validity of the theory to any who examine the evidence objectively. This, of course, leaves out all those too befuddled by primitive, superstitious delusions. More complete is the record of mitochondrial DNA. See: http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html Believe is what stupid people do instead of find out the truth for themselves. That's quite interesting -- all that evidence in our mitochondria! Of course God arranged it all 6,000 years ago when He created the Earth. It just shows the lengths He's willing to go in order to test our faith! He seems to do that a lot. On the other hand, maybe He created fundamentalists as horrible examples to show us that faith can be taken much too far! Here is a wonderful website with a huge amount of evidence for evolution, including various missing links, and some actual observations of the evolution of new species: The Talk.Origins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution/Intelligent Design Controversy http://www.talkorigins.org/ And here are some great articles by Nessie: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/index.html Have you written more after 11/5/2001? Are you _that_ Nessie, writing from a waterproof terminal in Scotland? No wonder you're interested in evolution! This is the best description of the world situation that I've ever seen: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/bio.html Conspiracy is as natural as breathing. Everyone does it, everyone. When we spell rather than use words in front of our young children, we are conspiring. When we agree to distract mommy so our siblings can raid the cookie jar, we are conspiring. When we imagine that the powers that be are somehow above all that, we are sadly deluded. That's how they came to power. To them, we are livestock, nothing more. The ruling class, the so-called elite, are pastoralists by trade. They herd us. They fleece us. They sell us. They rustle us. They breed us. They experiment on us without our knowledge or consent. They slaughter us at will. They own us and they own our land. That's how it is. That's how it's going to be, at least for as long as we play along. _Husbandry_ it's a verb. Look it up. Then look up _cull_. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 08:18:00AM -0600 Homosexuality -- in fact, any sexual activity between consenting adults -- does not harm anyone (as long as the participants avoid unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease). Sexual activity -- the sharing of mutual pleasure -- is in fact beneficial: it often brings people closer together, and it discharges energy that otherwise might lead to frustration and anger. The purpose of moral rules is to minimize harm to people, so that all may live happily and successfully. Therefore the only basis of morality that makes any sense is, Do not harm anyone. By this sane pro-human standard, homosexuality and homosexual people are not immoral (as such) in any way. The only reason some people believe they are immoral is the influence of fundamentalist Judaeo-Christian religions. These religions are in many ways profoundly anti-human; their leaders and holy books have variously advocated and praised the genocide of many millions of people, as well as the murder of women who have sex before marriage, the murder of adherents of other religions, and the practice of genital mutilation. HIV/AIDS was spread in African nations, and in the male homosexual population in the U.S., by vaccines that were contaminated with the virus (probably intentionally). That is an appropriate topic of discussion for this list. The spewing of murderous hatred against harmless people, as motivated by fundamentalist religion, is not. On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 08:18:00AM -0600, Ctrl wrote: -Caveat Lector- I can't believe that whining sniveling jizz gobbler (Svend Robinson) has been the incumbent politician for as long as he has. For as long as I can remember, he's done nothing but slap decent moral Canadians across the face time and time again. While I wish the man no ill, I must admit I'd be pleased to learn he's dying of AIDS. - Original Message - From: William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: [CTRL] {attack} WARNING signs of the times: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:01:37 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: {attack} WARNING signs of the times: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion YOU CAN ALSO READ IT ON THE WEB. http://www.topica.com/lists/USAttacked/read \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ Subj: U.N. group in 'showdown with religion' Date: 8/7/03 11:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet (Details) U.N. group in 'showdown with religion' Gathered homosexual leaders to sharpen 'rights' strategy worldwide http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33984 © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com Buoyed by growing political acceptance of homosexuals worldwide, a United Nations group promoting gay and lesbian rights met in New York to sharpen a multi-pronged strategy that includes a showdown with religion. The meeting was sponsored by the U.N. Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual Employees, known as UNGLOBE, a group officially recognized by the worldwide body in 1996. At a forum Monday, attended briefly by U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, panel members singled out Roman Catholics and evangelical Protestants as opponents, according to the New York-based Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute. Speakers included U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who urged Congress to withhold support for a free trade agreement with Muslim-majority Egypt because of its treatment of homosexuals. Paula Ettelbrick, executive director of the San Francisco-based International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, or IGLHRC, announced a coming showdown with religion and vowed Pope John Paul II's call to arms against homosexual marriage would be successfully combated. Another panel member, Princeton University professor Anthony Appiah, wondered whether or not religion should be limited, as it poses a challenge to the homosexual agenda. To thunderous applause, Svend Robinson, a member of the Canadian parliament, told the Catholic Church to clean up your own house before criticizing the morality of homosexuals. Robinson criticized Roman Catholic Bishop Frederick Henry of Calgary, calling his actions in defense of traditional marriage unbelievable. The deputy mocked born again Christians, asking, Did they have to come back again as themselves? As WorldNetDaily reported, Robinson is the sponsor of a bill that would add sexual orientation as a protected category in Canada's genocide and hate crimes legislation. Opponents believe it would criminalize public expression against homosexual behavior, including making quotations from the Bible. The U.N. group that hosted
[CTRL] Major New UFO Documentary On Sci-Fi Channel Tonight 6/24 - 6 or 9PM
-Caveat Lector- On SCI-FI channel at 9pm unless you're on the west coast watching the east coast feed, as in the SF Bay Area, in which case it's on at 6pm. Check your schedule. Bolinas man's film says we are not alone Alex Horvath, Special to The Chronicle Friday, February 7, 2003 [chronicle.gif] On a recent Friday morning, Marin filmmaker James Fox was in New York City trying to do what he calls some guerrilla marketing. In case you missed him, that was Fox on NBC's Today show - standing in the crowd behind host Matt Lauer, holding up a sign that posed the question, Are UFOs Real? The sign also listed a Web site where viewers could learn about Fox's newest documentary, Out of the Blue, which ponders the existence of UFOs and how much the government has actually revealed about them. It was Fox's second time on Today in a week - having pulled the same stunt on Monday morning after arriving in the Big Apple. The unscheduled background appearances on national television were a success, the Bolinas resident said. My Web site got more than 1,700 hits on Monday alone and sold enough copies of the video to pay my airfare. It more than paid for the trip to New York, he said. While Fox's Today show antics might be viewed by some as extreme, praise has come from those who have actually seen the film, including the publisher of Skeptic Magazine. With what seems like an almost illimitable supply of documentaries on UFOs one begins to wonder what else can be said about these elusive craft. 'Out of the Blue' breaks out of the paradigmatic mold and emerges as one of the very best films ever produced on this, one of the most interesting subjects in the history of science, Skeptic Magazine Publisher Michael Shermer said. The film also won two EBE awards in March 2002 at the International UFO Congress - one for Best UFO Documentary and the other a People's Choice Award. EBE stands for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. An executive at the Sci Fi Channel confirmed that negotiations are under way to purchase broadcast rights to Out of the Blue. At 34, Fox is making a name for himself in the world of documentary filmmakers and flying saucer chasers, sometimes referred to as UFOlogists. Not bad for someone with no formal journalistic background or film and video training and who, until recently, hadn't given much thought to government cover-ups or the existence of UFOs. The video is Fox's second work on the existence of extraterrestrials. His first film, UFOs: 50 Years of Denial? sold to the Discovery Channel in 1999 and was broadcast there (and on the Learning Channel) for the past three years. The documentary features interviews with astronauts Gordon Cooper and Edgar Mitchell, who sy scientific investigations into the existence of extraterrestrial life are warranted based on evidence from high-ranking military officials they have met who say they have worked with alien technology and hardware. Out of the Blue offers a more in-depth look at the flying saucer phenomenon and skewers government officials for allegedly concealing facts. The two-hour documentary, which is narrated by actor Peter Coyote, who lives in Mill Valley, offers an alternative view, including astronauts, former presidents and retired military personnel lending credence to the possibility of alien life and flying saucers. In the film, former President Jimmy Carter claims to have seen a UFO hurtling across the Georgia sky in 1969, and former President Gerald Ford verifies that as a Congressman he ordered hearings into UFO sightings that the Air Force officials had been dismissing as being swamp gas. Mercury 7 astronaut Cooper tells how, in 1955, he witnessed an event that has yet to be explained. While he was supervising the filming of a precision- landing facility for F-86 fighter jets, a saucerlike craft flew directly over the cameraman. According to Cooper, three landing gear apparatus opened, and the object landed on the dry lakebed. Apollo 14 astronaut Mitchell tells of a covert effort to keep the subject matter top secret. Fox had a connection to journalism through his family; his father is Charles Fox, a writer whose work has appeared in Rolling Stone, Playboy and Esquire magazines, among others. Fox remembered going along on an interview with his father for a PC Magazine article about physicist Stephen Hawking in the early 1990s. It was a story about the software that helps him communicate with the outside world. But we didn't want to talk about software; we wanted to talk about the black hole. He ticked away with his thumb for a few minutes writing out his response. What finally came out was 'I thought this interview was supposed to be about computers - not God.' Fox's career
Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 12:07:30AM -0500 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 12:07:30AM -0500, Zuukie wrote: I sent Mark's post to a number of people. Here is a response from one of them: Fascism is based on the ideal of National SOCIALISM. The only real difference between a Nazi and a Communist is that a Nazi believes that socialism can be achieved in a single nation while a communist believes that a global socialist state is need to fully implement socialist tyranny. One of the first things the Nazis did was to murder every socialist they could find. When leftists talk about socialism today they mean DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM, with workers (including managers) having democratic control (one-person-one-vote, not one-dollar-one-vote as in the U.S. today) over the businesses they work in and over the economy and government as a whole. Regardless of their party's name or the original beliefs of some of their members, the actual facts of Nazism and Italian and Japanese Fascism is that they were financed by (some) wealthy businessmen and they served the interests of wealthy businessmen. All these forms of Fascism specifically murdered everyone who advocated democratic control of businesses and the economy by the people. They even murdered union leaders who simply wanted to organize workers so they could gain some leverage toward better wages and conditions. The German Fascists (Nazis) got most of their financing from (some) wealthy American businessmen. After WWII, (some) wealthy American businessmen, acting through conservative politicians, carried out assassinations and covert and overt military attacks on dozens of different nations, to murder exactly the same sorts of pro-human political leaders that the Nazis murdered. See the references below. This person is of the mistaken assumption that profits are evil. No, it is _excessive_ profits -- those that rob from workers most of the value of the goods and services they produce -- that are evil. what he ignores is that the much maligned American capitalist economy has created more wealth A great deal of the wealth created by the American capitalist economy has been accomplished by taking control of third world nations (see the references below), robbing their natural resources, installing murderous dictatorial (death-squad) governments, and then using their populations as slave labor at wages of pennies per hour to grow and manufacture products for American corporations. This practice is still going on. and distributed it more evenly than any other economic system in the history of mankind. No socialist economy anywhere, ever has created the broad distribution of wealth the US economy has... period. Wrong. Scandinavian and other countries that practice Social Democracy -- democratic control over a capitalist economy, with limitations on profits and a large public sector to provide housing, medical care, etc., that capitalism doesn't -- have much better distribution of wealth than the U.S. economy. And people in Cuba, and under the former socialist government of Nicaragua, have done much better than under U.S.-imposed capitalism, even with U.S.-enforced trade embargos and military attacks that did tremendous damage to their economies. He also assumes that the elimination of all social barriers is a good thing. History shows us this isn't so. The social anarchy that followed the French and Russian revolutions were not the beginnings of a socialist utopia, they were rightly called Reigns of Terror. Sooner or later tyrants and their advocates will divulge their true motives! Here Zuukie and (as I'm told) her friends are advocating the maintenance of economic-class, racial, and gender social barriers, which can mean nothing less than control of the government, society, and economy by wealthy white businessmen. This is exactly the agenda of the Fascists and the businessmen who supported them, for the simple purpose of maximizing their profits. The gay rights movement isn't about civil rights for homosexuals. Homosexuals enjoy all the same civil rights as other Americans. Absolutely false. Homosexual people are generally not allowed to have official marriages, and so are denied the various economic and social rights that such marriages confer, and they are also discriminated against in employment, housing, etc. Its about government mandated endorsement of sodomy and nothing else. That is an absurd lie. Sodomy -- oral and anal sex -- is widely practiced by heterosexual, as well as homosexual, people. The laws that homosexual people want, permitting marriage and forbidding discrimination, do not endorse sodomy any more than current laws endorse penile-vaginal intercourse. Here is the ideal general principle of morality: Don't harm other people; do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't harm anyone. In fact, that is the fundamental
Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism
, in order to prevent the citizens of those nations from having democratic control of their government and economy, leaving them helpless against tyranny and exploitation by American corporations and U.S.-backed fascist governments and militia/ death-squads. http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/KillingHope_page.html http://www.michaelparenti.org http://www.sonic.net/~doretk/ArchiveARCHIVE/M%20P/MP.html Mark -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark S Bilk Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism -Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:53:54PM -0500 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:53:54PM -0500, Zuukie wrote: ... This is one of the most vicious, anti-human, right-wing propaganda pieces I've ever seen. Comments below... America started to slide into Fascism long before Bush came into office. It happened so gradually that no one noticed that it was happening. As government power grew and individuals became less involved in government at all levels, leaving it to the professionals, fascism came to power. U.S. Fascism was engineered by Nixon, Reagan, GHW Bush, Clinton (of the right wing of the Democratic party) GW Bush and the people behind them. Fascism is violent, deceptive, domineering government by and for wealthy capitalists. At one time civics was taught in the schools, and students learned how federal, state and local government worked. Then Civics was taken out. The flower children who had no idea how government worked joined groups emotionally and protested without ever taking the time to search out what was happening. Oh so righteous they were. As they grew older they became even more righteous and came into positions of power where no one was to challenge their thinking. They brought in every New Age cockamamie idea with the straightest of faces, giving government more and more power. The only increases in government power pushed by flower children were (and are) regulations on businesses to limit environmental damage, set minimum wages, protect workers and consumers, prevent discrimination against non-whites, women, homosexual people. They also want to decrease government power by legalizing victimless sex and drug activities. Clever they were. They presented their ideas as if they were the outsiders, fighting the establishment. Everybody likes an underdog and few take the time to look into the backgrounds of the thousands of front groups operating. (See the Encyclopedia of Associations for a general idea of how many groups are operating here and internationally.) God help you if you wanted to challenge an environmental group, a peace group, a pro-abortion group, a school board, a library board or any other branch of government and its establishment. Conservatives, neocons, etc., challenged these groups all the time, because the changes they recommended decreased the profits of the wealthy businessmen the conservatives and neocons work for. Gradually, as in Nazi Germany, the churches and synagogues were turned toward supporting the secular goals of the flower children and their government, leaving behind any effort to teach monotheistic morality, and moving forward to the acceptance of occult spirituality. Morality -- rules to prevent people from harming each other -- do NOT uniquely come from monotheism. The morality of, e.g., various Wiccan religions is much more directed at preventing harm to people and to the planet than Judeo-Christian morality. The claim that anything outside of Judeo-Christian religion is evil occult spirituality is a standard Christian Fundamentalist Big Lie, one which they've been using for many centuries as a pretext for discriminating against, imprisoning, torturing, and murdering anyone who practices a religion different from theirs. In fact, Christian monotheists have murdered tens of millions of people for believing in a different religion (the witch burnings) and for trying to practice the same kind of non-competitive pro-human economic sharing (e.g., democratic socialism in Vietnam and Nicaragua) that Jesus would have approved of. So, the average person gave up learning what was happening, realizing the establishment enemy was too big. They were whipped into shape gradually. Forty years have gone by. Now when someone wants to challenge the state, it's almost impossible without the support of some sort of well-funded front group, paid for by who knows. This is total crap. Most people are sheep and don't challenge the establishment because of what they are force-fed by the mainstream news media, which are all owned by the ultra-wealthy, and have been pushing right-wing lies
Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism
they themselves have done. Now when we all are forced to take on the roles which have been planned for us, yelling fascism will do no good. We wouldn't recognize real fascism if it stood on the steps of the Capital and yelled it's name. We stopped fighting Big Brother and his New Age ideas, and now we are his. Hitler and Stalin would understand how it happened only too well. New Age is consciousness, psychedelics, sharing, pro-human religions like Wicca, environmentalism, full civil rights for non-whites, women, gays, etc. It is the _opposite_ of Fascism. In fact, New Age, hippie, liberal, flower children are at the forefront of the fight _against_ Fascism. Mark S Bilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cosmicpenguin.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om