Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, thew wrote: > Semite means exactly the definition I sent to you yesterday. I will post it > again below - maybe a second reading will help. When somebody shouts, "Antisemite", which definition are they using? Number 3 of course. That's the one being used in this thread. These Number 3 Semites even use that appelation sometimes to describe Arabs and other Number 3 Semites. > I'm very tolerant. > I judge people by their actions, not by their ethnicity of belief systems. > it's refreshing, you ought to try it sometime. Name one action, attribute, opinion or whatever of Number 3 Semites which other Number 3 Semites have not on occasion taken a stand against, ie been "Anti" for their "Pro-". So the point is, which camp of Number 3 Semites should one side with to avoid the appelation of "Antisemite"? We can only be for or against that which we experience in some real, tangible sense. Nobody is against the bftsplk people when they don't know anything about the properties of the bftsplk people. So what are the properties of Number 3 Semites which Antisemites are against? And, of those issues on which Number 3 Semites line up Pro- and Anti-, what should the position on non-Semites be so as to avoid the appelation, "Antisemite"? > Main Entry:1Se·mit·ic > Pronunciation:s&-'mi-tik also -'me- > Function:adjective > Etymology:German semitisch, from Semit, Semite Semite, probably from New > Latin Semita, from Late Latin Semitic Shem > Date:1813 > 1 : of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic > language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic > 2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the Semites > 3 : Jewish > > I don't know what pro-Semitic means, but that seems to be just as racist as > being an anti-Semite. > > so to answer your question (with a question - typical Jewish trait) do you > hate anyone just because they fit the above description? If so, you are an > anti-Semite. If not, you are not. pretty simple really. > > I hope simple enough for you to understand. let me know if any of these > words are too multi-syllabic for you. Thank you for your great wisdom and intelligence. Now answer my questions above, or are they too far past the capabilities of your tiny mind, even though they are "simple enough" for my, by-your-opinion limited mind to understand. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- Semite means exactly the definition I sent to you yesterday. I will post it again below - maybe a second reading will help. I'm very tolerant. I judge people by their actions, not by their ethnicity of belief systems. it's refreshing, you ought to try it sometime. Main Entry:1Se·mit·ic Pronunciation:s&-'mi-tik also -'me- Function:adjective Etymology:German semitisch, from Semit, Semite Semite, probably from New Latin Semita, from Late Latin Semitic Shem Date:1813 1 : of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic 2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the Semites 3 : Jewish I don't know what pro-Semitic means, but that seems to be just as racist as being an anti-Semite. so to answer your question (with a question - typical Jewish trait) do you hate anyone just because they fit the above description? If so, you are an anti-Semite. If not, you are not. pretty simple really. I hope simple enough for you to understand. let me know if any of these words are too multi-syllabic for you. -- Heathen, n. A benighted creature who has the folly to worship something that he can see and feel. Ambrose Bierce, the Devils Dictionary > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:09:04 -0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH > > -Caveat Lector- > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, thew wrote: > >> are u saying u you already know you are an intolerant asshole, and just >> trying to see if you are an anti-Semite too? > > I don't know if I am yet an intolerant asshole like you because I don't > yet know my prosemites from my antisemites. Does semite mean "jew" to you, > or asshole (ie self-description)? > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- << A leading Jewish cleric has called for homosexuals to be killed. The statements have come in the week that members of leading lesbian and gay groups are to meet Israel's prime minister Ariel Sharon. Rabbi David Batzri told the Israeli Ma`ariv newspaper that homosexuals should be "put to death" according to Jewish religious law. Batzri added: "Homosexuals and lesbians are not only a sickness, they are an abomination which should be removed from every city in the country, also from those districts where they feel protected, like in Tel Aviv." >> Well this will give them something to do after they finally exterminate the Palestinians. Got to keep busy. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, thew wrote: > are u saying u you already know you are an intolerant asshole, and just > trying to see if you are an anti-Semite too? I don't know if I am yet an intolerant asshole like you because I don't yet know my prosemites from my antisemites. Does semite mean "jew" to you, or asshole (ie self-description)? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- Main Entry:1Se·mit·ic Pronunciation:s&-'mi-tik also -'me- Function:adjective Etymology:German semitisch, from Semit, Semite Semite, probably from New Latin Semita, from Late Latin Semitic Shem Date:1813 1 : of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic 2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the Semites 3 : JEWISH do you hate anyone just for fitting this? are u saying u you already know you are an intolerant asshole, and just trying to see if you are an anti-Semite too? -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth. Henrik Ibsen NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:20:42 -0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH > > -Caveat Lector- > > So tell me what a Semite is vs. Semite opinions and positions so I will > know if I am being antisemitic or not. > POC > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, thew wrote: > >> -Caveat Lector- >> >> no >> if you hate people simply because they are Semitic you are an anti-Semite >> >> if you hate people because they disagree with you you are an intolerant >> asshole. >> >> note - it is possible to be both. >> >> >> Free your mind and your ass will follow. >> St George >> >> >> NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew >> >>> From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:46:09 -0800 >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH >>> >>> But if we disagree with the wrong camp of semites we will be called >>> antisemites and we all want to be good little prosemites. So which camp do >>> we agree with, the prosemite semites or the antisemite semites? >>> POC >> >> http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org >> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >> == >> CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic >> screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are >> sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- >> directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with >> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. >> That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and >> always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no >> credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. >> >> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. >> >> Archives Available at: >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl >> >> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >> SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >> SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Om >> > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";&
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- So tell me what a Semite is vs. Semite opinions and positions so I will know if I am being antisemitic or not. POC On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, thew wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > no > if you hate people simply because they are Semitic you are an anti-Semite > > if you hate people because they disagree with you you are an intolerant > asshole. > > note - it is possible to be both. > > > Free your mind and your ass will follow. >St George > > > NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > > > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:46:09 -0800 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH > > > > But if we disagree with the wrong camp of semites we will be called > > antisemites and we all want to be good little prosemites. So which camp do > > we agree with, the prosemite semites or the antisemite semites? > > POC > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- no if you hate people simply because they are Semitic you are an anti-Semite if you hate people because they disagree with you you are an intolerant asshole. note - it is possible to be both. Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:46:09 -0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH > > But if we disagree with the wrong camp of semites we will be called > antisemites and we all want to be good little prosemites. So which camp do > we agree with, the prosemite semites or the antisemite semites? > POC http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- Two brushes. One for prosemitic semites and one for antisemtic semites. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, thew wrote: > Jews don't consider disagreement as anti-Semitism, despite your deep desire > to paint us all with one brush. > > Without something to disagree about, Jews would have no reason to exist. But if we disagree with the wrong camp of semites we will be called antisemites and we all want to be good little prosemites. So which camp do we agree with, the prosemite semites or the antisemite semites? POC > two men are having an argument, so they go the the rabbi. > > the rabbi listens to the first man.. then says to him "you are right" > > he then listens to the second man, and says "you are right" > > an onlooker can't take this. he says to the rebbi " these men were having an > argument, they can't possibly both be right!" > > the rabbi said " you, too, are right" > > and as a PS > fundamentalists of that type deserve nothing but scorn and disgust, and I > don't care what religion they pretend to profess. > > > Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate > William of Occam > > > NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > > > > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:38:45 -0800 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > If other Jews disagree with this rabbi, which camp of Jews is antisemitic? > > POC > > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Andrew Hennessey wrote: > > > >> -Caveat Lector- > >> > >> http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/printerfriendly.asp?id=2573&ct=news > >> http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/NewsLife.asp?newsid=2573 > >> > >> Rabbi Says Gays Should Die: > >> > >> A leading Jewish cleric has called for homosexuals to be killed. The > >> statements have come in the week that members of leading lesbian and gay > >> groups are to meet Israel's prime minister Ariel Sharon. Rabbi David Batzri > >> told the Israeli Ma`ariv newspaper that homosexuals should be "put to death" > >> according to Jewish religious law. Batzri added: "Homosexuals and lesbians > >> are not only a sickness, they are an abomination which should be removed > >> from every city in the country, also from those districts where they feel > >> protected, like in Tel Aviv." Batzri's comments have caused outrage. > >> Reform Rabbi Uri Regev said, > >> "the only abomination here are the words of Batzri, and not the existence of > >> homosexuals and lesbians, who are part of the world created by the will of > >> God". Batzri's remarks follow news that members of the Political Council > >> for Gay Rights in Israel will meet with prime minister Ariel Sharon next > >> week. It is the first time such a gathering has taken place. The meeting > >> follows a discussion with president Moshe Katzav last year. PCGRI > >> representative Menahem Shizaf said: "We see those meetings with the > >> president and prime minister as an accomplishment and an important message > >> to the public." > >> > >> http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > >> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > >> == > >> CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > >> screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > >> sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > >> directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > >> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > >> That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > >> always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > >> credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > >> > >> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > >> > >> Archives Available at: > >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- Jews don't consider disagreement as anti-Semitism, despite your deep desire to paint us all with one brush. Without something to disagree about, Jews would have no reason to exist. two men are having an argument, so they go the the rabbi. the rabbi listens to the first man.. then says to him "you are right" he then listens to the second man, and says "you are right" an onlooker can't take this. he says to the rebbi " these men were having an argument, they can't possibly both be right!" the rabbi said " you, too, are right" and as a PS fundamentalists of that type deserve nothing but scorn and disgust, and I don't care what religion they pretend to profess. Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate William of Occam NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:38:45 -0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH > > -Caveat Lector- > > If other Jews disagree with this rabbi, which camp of Jews is antisemitic? > POC > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Andrew Hennessey wrote: > >> -Caveat Lector- >> >> http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/printerfriendly.asp?id=2573&ct=news >> http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/NewsLife.asp?newsid=2573 >> >> Rabbi Says Gays Should Die: >> >> A leading Jewish cleric has called for homosexuals to be killed. The >> statements have come in the week that members of leading lesbian and gay >> groups are to meet Israel's prime minister Ariel Sharon. Rabbi David Batzri >> told the Israeli Ma`ariv newspaper that homosexuals should be "put to death" >> according to Jewish religious law. Batzri added: "Homosexuals and lesbians >> are not only a sickness, they are an abomination which should be removed >> from every city in the country, also from those districts where they feel >> protected, like in Tel Aviv." Batzri's comments have caused outrage. >> Reform Rabbi Uri Regev said, >> "the only abomination here are the words of Batzri, and not the existence of >> homosexuals and lesbians, who are part of the world created by the will of >> God". Batzri's remarks follow news that members of the Political Council >> for Gay Rights in Israel will meet with prime minister Ariel Sharon next >> week. It is the first time such a gathering has taken place. The meeting >> follows a discussion with president Moshe Katzav last year. PCGRI >> representative Menahem Shizaf said: "We see those meetings with the >> president and prime minister as an accomplishment and an important message >> to the public." >> >> http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org >> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >> == >> CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic >> screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are >> sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- >> directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with >> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. >> That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and >> always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no >> credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. >> >> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. >> >> Archives Available at: >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl >> >> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >> SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >> SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Om >> > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'wi
Re: [CTRL] RABBIS IN GAY HATE SPEECH
-Caveat Lector- On 10 Feb 02, at 3:23, Andrew Hennessey wrote: > Rabbi David Batzri > told the Israeli Ma`ariv newspaper that homosexuals should be "put to > death" according to Jewish religious law. Batzri added: "Homosexuals > and lesbians are not only a sickness, they are an abomination which > should be removed from every city in the country, also from those > districts where they feel protected, like in Tel Aviv." This is not surprising from a fundamentalist whatever whose country's very existence depends upon its population outstripping that of its adversaries; thus, the immediate granting of Israeli citizenship upon arrival to those who qualify. This program has been part of the big push for population increase since the 1940ies and even included illegal immigration into Israel by hundreds of thousands if not millions of future citizens. Revvin' Jerry and Revvin' Pat and Papa Karol are in on this program, too, as they realise the successes of their agendae rely on popular overwhelming of those who would detract from their missions. Thus, the anti-abortion (and its oxymoronic companion, anti-birth control), anti-women's rights, anti-homosexual positions that discourage the inflating of the population numbers of various groups. A<>E<>R http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- If other Jews disagree with this rabbi, which camp of Jews is antisemitic? POC On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Andrew Hennessey wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/printerfriendly.asp?id=2573&ct=news > http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/NewsLife.asp?newsid=2573 > > Rabbi Says Gays Should Die: > > A leading Jewish cleric has called for homosexuals to be killed. The > statements have come in the week that members of leading lesbian and gay > groups are to meet Israel's prime minister Ariel Sharon. Rabbi David Batzri > told the Israeli Ma`ariv newspaper that homosexuals should be "put to death" > according to Jewish religious law. Batzri added: "Homosexuals and lesbians > are not only a sickness, they are an abomination which should be removed > from every city in the country, also from those districts where they feel > protected, like in Tel Aviv." Batzri's comments have caused outrage. > Reform Rabbi Uri Regev said, > "the only abomination here are the words of Batzri, and not the existence of > homosexuals and lesbians, who are part of the world created by the will of > God". Batzri's remarks follow news that members of the Political Council > for Gay Rights in Israel will meet with prime minister Ariel Sharon next > week. It is the first time such a gathering has taken place. The meeting > follows a discussion with president Moshe Katzav last year. PCGRI > representative Menahem Shizaf said: "We see those meetings with the > president and prime minister as an accomplishment and an important message > to the public." > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/printerfriendly.asp?id=2573&ct=news http://www.rainbownetwork.com/content/NewsLife.asp?newsid=2573 Rabbi Says Gays Should Die: A leading Jewish cleric has called for homosexuals to be killed. The statements have come in the week that members of leading lesbian and gay groups are to meet Israel's prime minister Ariel Sharon. Rabbi David Batzri told the Israeli Ma`ariv newspaper that homosexuals should be "put to death" according to Jewish religious law. Batzri added: "Homosexuals and lesbians are not only a sickness, they are an abomination which should be removed from every city in the country, also from those districts where they feel protected, like in Tel Aviv." Batzri's comments have caused outrage. Reform Rabbi Uri Regev said, "the only abomination here are the words of Batzri, and not the existence of homosexuals and lesbians, who are part of the world created by the will of God". Batzri's remarks follow news that members of the Political Council for Gay Rights in Israel will meet with prime minister Ariel Sharon next week. It is the first time such a gathering has taken place. The meeting follows a discussion with president Moshe Katzav last year. PCGRI representative Menahem Shizaf said: "We see those meetings with the president and prime minister as an accomplishment and an important message to the public." http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
